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Mayo is signed but is in the last year of his contract. He carries a $10.3 million cap hit this year. They really can't release him as he is on injured reserve still and would be due $4.5 million cash on his release (if still injured). His actual salary is $6.25 million. I think they want him back but at a fraction of the cost.
According to spotrac Mayo is signed through 2017.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-england-patriots/jerod-mayo/

 
Mayo is signed but is in the last year of his contract. He carries a $10.3 million cap hit this year. They really can't release him as he is on injured reserve still and would be due $4.5 million cash on his release (if still injured). His actual salary is $6.25 million. I think they want him back but at a fraction of the cost.
According to spotrac Mayo is signed through 2017.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-england-patriots/jerod-mayo/
http://patscap.com/solder.html#solder

 
Mayo is signed but is in the last year of his contract. He carries a $10.3 million cap hit this year. They really can't release him as he is on injured reserve still and would be due $4.5 million cash on his release (if still injured). His actual salary is $6.25 million. I think they want him back but at a fraction of the cost.
According to spotrac Mayo is signed through 2017.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-england-patriots/jerod-mayo/
http://patscap.com/solder.html#solder
http://patscap.com/brady.html#brady

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Mayo is signed but is in the last year of his contract. He carries a $10.3 million cap hit this year. They really can't release him as he is on injured reserve still and would be due $4.5 million cash on his release (if still injured). His actual salary is $6.25 million. I think they want him back but at a fraction of the cost.
According to spotrac Mayo is signed through 2017.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-england-patriots/jerod-mayo/
http://patscap.com/solder.html#solder
http://patscap.com/brady.html#brady

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Yeah. Linked the wrong one. Mayo is signed for two years, but still has the injury issue which makes him hard to cut.

 
And the Pats continue to do nothing, signing a few bums or Browns backups. At least they kept Amendola who has proven to be quite valuable, and McCourty. It looks like their true offer for Revis was WAY off.... and Revis was heading to NY either way.

 
Classic Belichick. He will wait until roster cut down day and pick up the useless scraps, who will just happen to fit his system perfectly. Just another BB off season.

 
Pats sign former Dolphins LB Jonathan Freeny, undrafted from Rutgers in 2011.

First Rutgers player the Patriots have signed since last week.

(camp body)

 
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Pats will do what they always do. Other teams will pay top dollar for new Mercedes sedan parts and still won't get their car to run right. Pats will get used Yugo parts and will run like a well oiled machine.

 
Re-signing Ammendola was a surprise to me. And with signing him I feel they dont have room for Harvin.
he was already under contract -- they actually have even more room now that they shaved him down

they theoretically have plenty of current cap to fit harvin in there, if that was the only concern

if harvin wasn't such an apparent ##### it would actually make a lot of sense from his side to sign a cheap 1 yr deal w/the pats --- it'd probably pay off huge for his career

imagine the damage he could do

 
Unless the Pats are gonna completely change their offense, White Chocolate is gonna remain Edelman insurance. I think they can still bring in Harvin, he could do a lot of stuff for this team.

Knighton has been signed, Fairley was always kind of out of their price range. Leaving very few tackles out there. Pretty much down to Randy Starks and Big Vince.

 
We need a big body wr not another Edelman/Ammendola. Id like to see them use Wright more too. There must be something up BBs sleeve.

 
We need a big body wr not another Edelman/Ammendola. Id like to see them use Wright more too. There must be something up BBs sleeve.
I think we will see more from Wright in this season. Still holding out hope they take a big body receiver in this draft.

Strong, DGB, Funchess, Bell, Mcbride, Waller and Lewis - plenty of shots at some of them.

 
Where's Kool Aid to tell us to calm down, lol

Tyms in the fold! (for the token bomb)... Harvin would be an insane weapon for OC, Brady. Coming to NE usually does wonders for the bank account at some point:not only does it maximize a players stats, but shows that the player is at least coachable and a team player when needed (until they leave and inevitably regress!).

 
So what does Browner's signing with the Saints mean for the Pats? I'm not sure about their corner situation now.
It means that they knew they couldn't keep Revis and could no longer play man to man press coverage. So they have to go back to the bend but don't break soft zone they played for years. Given that they had only one guy that could play press coverage (and not at an elite level), they punted and opted to take his nearly $5 million cap room and use it somewhere else. It also gets them credit for losing a $6 million a year player in the compensatory pick calculations for next's year's draft. Based on this year's numbers, that would be worth a 4th round compensatory pick. But since they signed Sheard, those probably cancel each other out.

 
So what does Browner's signing with the Saints mean for the Pats? I'm not sure about their corner situation now.
It means that they knew they couldn't keep Revis and could no longer play man to man press coverage. So they have to go back to the bend but don't break soft zone they played for years. Given that they had only one guy that could play press coverage (and not at an elite level), they punted and opted to take his nearly $5 million cap room and use it somewhere else. It also gets them credit for losing a $6 million a year player in the compensatory pick calculations for next's year's draft. Based on this year's numbers, that would be worth a 4th round compensatory pick. But since they signed Sheard, those probably cancel each other out.
Ah, thanks. The compensatory pick was kind of why I asked, in addition to the analysis in the first bolded.

I don't think they're nearly as good. I thought their secondary was among the best in the NFL last year. Regardless, Belichick and company know what they're doing. They'll be back among the elite.

 
And the Pats continue to do nothing, signing a few bums or Browns backups. At least they kept Amendola who has proven to be quite valuable, and McCourty. It looks like their true offer for Revis was WAY off.... and Revis was heading to NY either way.
I will choose to look at glass half-full on this one.

Though personally I hoped that they released Amendola, keeping him with this structure is much better than what I had expected.

I like PFF metrics on defensive players where Sheard scores well.

BTW, so does Mathis. Food for thought.

 
Coming to NE usually does wonders for the bank account at some point:not only does it maximize a players stats, but shows that the player is at least coachable and a team player when needed
I don't know if I agree with this. I'm not a Patriot homer, so I don't follow all their player transactions, but I don't think this is true.

Assuming you are referring to FAs/traded players coming to NE, what examples of it helping their stats & bank account are there?

Lafell-had a good year (not great, but good) in 2014, but I don't see those numbers commanding a huge payday (from the Pats or anyone else) after his contract is up.

Blount-turned his big run at the end of 2013 into only a 2 year/$4M deal that he only got 1/2 off. Now back with NE on the cheap.

Amendola-After coming to NE & not doing well, he signed a new deal w/NE worth a little over $4M/year for 3 years. Not a big contract.

Brandon Lloyd-after signing with NE (Josh Matthews) on the cheap, he was under-whelming, and had to sign a 1 year deal with SF for less than $1M

Danny Woodhead-played well in NE, was able to get a 3 year deal from SD worth $7M. Not a huge deal, but probably the most he could have expected/gotten.

Randy Moss-definitely helped his stats, & NE gave him a $12M signing bonus once (I think), but he never got a HUGE contract from NE or anyone else after his monster 2007 season.

Chad Johnson-nope

Welker-NE gave him 1 year as a franchise player, right? Then they balked at paying him, and he was only able to get like $10-$12M from Denver for 2 years, I think.

Albert Haynesworth-not an offensive player, but nope

Not sure what players signed/were traded to NE, and responded with good numbers that led to big pay-days. Welker and Woodhead both earned some money based on what they did in NE, but neither of them made crazy money off their NE days.

 
Coming to NE usually does wonders for the bank account at some point:not only does it maximize a players stats, but shows that the player is at least coachable and a team player when needed
I don't know if I agree with this. I'm not a Patriot homer, so I don't follow all their player transactions, but I don't think this is true.

Assuming you are referring to FAs/traded players coming to NE, what examples of it helping their stats & bank account are there?

Lafell-had a good year (not great, but good) in 2014, but I don't see those numbers commanding a huge payday (from the Pats or anyone else) after his contract is up.

Blount-turned his big run at the end of 2013 into only a 2 year/$4M deal that he only got 1/2 off. Now back with NE on the cheap.

Amendola-After coming to NE & not doing well, he signed a new deal w/NE worth a little over $4M/year for 3 years. Not a big contract.

Brandon Lloyd-after signing with NE (Josh Matthews) on the cheap, he was under-whelming, and had to sign a 1 year deal with SF for less than $1M

Danny Woodhead-played well in NE, was able to get a 3 year deal from SD worth $7M. Not a huge deal, but probably the most he could have expected/gotten.

Randy Moss-definitely helped his stats, & NE gave him a $12M signing bonus once (I think), but he never got a HUGE contract from NE or anyone else after his monster 2007 season.

Chad Johnson-nope

Welker-NE gave him 1 year as a franchise player, right? Then they balked at paying him, and he was only able to get like $10-$12M from Denver for 2 years, I think.

Albert Haynesworth-not an offensive player, but nope

Not sure what players signed/were traded to NE, and responded with good numbers that led to big pay-days. Welker and Woodhead both earned some money based on what they did in NE, but neither of them made crazy money off their NE days.
Revis, Browner, Talib, Ayers, Casillas ...

 
Woodhead, BJGE, Branch, Damien Woody, Givens, Daniel Graham, Samuel, Klecko, Seymour, Tully Banta-Cain were all other guys of the top of my head that left and got more money than they did in NE.

 
Adding Chandler is a nice move, depending on the numbers I think they might cut Hooman now, save 1.4m by doing so.

A capable receiver and blocker, the offense getting bigger is good imo, team needs to balance out. I think we'll be seeing some more 3TE sets.

 
Mike Reiss has likened the Chandler signing to that of the urban legend that Wes Welker used to kill the Pats every time they faced MIA so they traded for him.

Welker played 6 games against the Pats and had only one game with more than 2 catches. His total line against NE was 14-158-0 in those 6 games.

Chandler at least had some big games against the pats. But I always loved the Wes as a Pats killer storyline.

 
Woodhead, BJGE, Branch, Damien Woody, Givens, Daniel Graham, Samuel, Klecko, Seymour, Tully Banta-Cain were all other guys of the top of my head that left and got more money than they did in NE.
BJGE was a UDFA, right? I don't think that was really the point of the initial post (or I mis-read it). I thought he was referring to guys who came to NE needing to rebound or prove they weren't "trouble."

If you count BJGE (since he was a "free agent"), the only offensive skill players seem to be Woodhead, BJGE, Givens, Moss, and Welker. The only ones who I would count as rebounding/proving they could "behave" a la Harvin would be Moss & Welker, and neither of them were able to break the bank anywhere else.

The idea that an offensive player can sign with NE to rehab their image (with regards to production or behavior) doesn't seem accurate, IMO.

 
Chandler is kind of like Christian Fauria in that he is a goalline target.

Or like Tim Wright.
I think Chandler will be a rotational TE2 similar to Hooman's usage, he is a capable blocker. But he will definitely shine at the goal line at 6'7" 260.

Hoping Wright gets more involved outside of the redzone, but Gronk, Wright and Chandler in the redzone is gonna be disgusting.

 
The Bills and Jets will be tough, but they seem to play us tough every year, it's like their super bowl for them.

I like the Chandler signing, great move.

 
Bayhawks said:
NE_REVIVAL said:
Anarchy99 said:
Woodhead, BJGE, Branch, Damien Woody, Givens, Daniel Graham, Samuel, Klecko, Seymour, Tully Banta-Cain were all other guys of the top of my head that left and got more money than they did in NE.
Mark Anderson is also a great example.
defensive player, right?
Yeah, he was a DE who played here 1 year and cashed in big time the following year and then was a bust. Certainly a lot more def players than off players have come in for a a short stay and re-built their stock.

 
Bayhawks said:
NE_REVIVAL said:
Anarchy99 said:
Woodhead, BJGE, Branch, Damien Woody, Givens, Daniel Graham, Samuel, Klecko, Seymour, Tully Banta-Cain were all other guys of the top of my head that left and got more money than they did in NE.
Mark Anderson is also a great example.
defensive player, right?
Yeah, he was a DE who played here 1 year and cashed in big time the following year and then was a bust. Certainly a lot more def players than off players have come in for a a short stay and re-built their stock.
I think that is because of BBs defensive acumen. He's able to get the most out of,defensive guys.
 
Percy Harvin deal not done yet.

NBC Washington's Dianna Marie Russini reports Percy Harvin has yet to sign with the Bills, and the 49ers "could be making a play" for him.
What have we learned this week? Don't consider anything official until the team announces it. Russini isn't suggesting the deal with the Bills won't get done, but the point is that it's not yet been signed and Harvin may still be considering his options. Maybe he's having second thoughts on tying himself to Matt Cassel.

Source: Dianna Marie Russini on Twitter
Mar 13 - 5:42 PM

 
NBC Washington reports the Patriots are targeting free agent WR Stevie Johnson.

New England is the first team that's been linked to Johnson since his release from the 49ers. He doesn't project for a starting role with the Patriots, but would contribute in three- and four-wide sets. Coming off a 35/435/3 line, Johnson won't require much guaranteed money.

 

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