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Indefinite New England Patriots Thread (6 Viewers)

Kraft... said:
I think we need to resign ourselves to the Christian Kirk, Keenan Allen, Tyler Lockett tier. I see the absolute ceiling at WR as Kupp and maybe Diggs :shrug:

With the main deterrent being big time players(or as close as we get in free agency/trade market) just don't want to come here at the moment. Lots of good QBs and Coaches out there(and teams with plenty of money on the table) that don't represent an F rated franchise by the players(plus Mass tax, crap stadium location, weather yadda yadda) I love living here BTW just not ideal for attracting NFLers when you no longer have the Brady/Bill affect in your back pocket. :banned:
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Josh Palmer has Patriots written all over him…and the sad part is he would be an upgrade over what they currently have.
 
Anarchy99 said:
The asking price for Metcalf is said to be a first and a third. And Metcalf wants a $30M per year contract. Besides the fact that I don't think Metcalf has much interest in coming to NE, that seems like a lot to invest for DK.
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Especially since you can get Adams for no draft compensation.
 
fruity pebbles said:
Anarchy99 said:
The asking price for Metcalf is said to be a first and a third. And Metcalf wants a $30M per year contract. Besides the fact that I don't think Metcalf has much interest in coming to NE, that seems like a lot to invest for DK.
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Especially since you can get Adams for no draft compensation.
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Adams is 5 years older . . . and it's unlikely he would be coming to NE either. NE is most likely going to have to settle for overpaying B- / C+ free agents. From what I have heard / seen, they probably will shy away from guys on the wrong side of 30.
 
Anarchy99 said:
fruity pebbles said:
Anarchy99 said:
The asking price for Metcalf is said to be a first and a third. And Metcalf wants a $30M per year contract. Besides the fact that I don't think Metcalf has much interest in coming to NE, that seems like a lot to invest for DK.
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Especially since you can get Adams for no draft compensation.
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Adams is 5 years older . . . and it's unlikely he would be coming to NE either. NE is most likely going to have to settle for overpaying B- / C+ free agents. From what I have heard / seen, they probably will shy away from guys on the wrong side of 30.
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Neither is coming here but more a statement that I can’t see a team giving up a 1st and 3rd for DK when Adams just costs the contract. He is older but at this point probably still a better WR.
 
Starting to think NE will have to possibly roll the dice and go after Aiyuk.

Probably could be had relatively cheap vs. Adams/Metcalf/etc. On the flip side, you're taking on injury risk and he may not play half the season.

Still he's young.

Play the long game here. We're not winning a championship next year.
 
kyoun1e said:
Starting to think NE will have to possibly roll the dice and go after Aiyuk.

Probably could be had relatively cheap vs. Adams/Metcalf/etc. On the flip side, you're taking on injury risk and he may not play half the season.

Still he's young.

Play the long game here. We're not winning a championship next year.
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Same problem as these other guys. Aiyuk didn't want to play for the Patriots. Maybe that changed, maybe the Niners would move him anyway, and maybe his market is different post-injury. At the time, the Patriots had a trade in place with the Niners, a large offer out to Aiyuk, and he showed no interest in accepting the boatload of money the Patriots offered him.
 
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kyoun1e said:
Starting to think NE will have to possibly roll the dice and go after Aiyuk.

Probably could be had relatively cheap vs. Adams/Metcalf/etc. On the flip side, you're taking on injury risk and he may not play half the season.

Still he's young.

Play the long game here. We're not winning a championship next year.
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'I don't think it's likely' Niners trade Aiyuk

Speaking on the Pat McAfee Show, 49ers beat reporter David Lombardi said "I don't think it's likely that the 49ers are going to trade Brandon Aiyuk."
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Speaking on the Pat McAfee Show, 49ers beat reporter David Lombardi said “I don’t think it’s likely that the 49ers are going to trade Brandon Aiyuk.”

Lombardi points out the fact that Aiyuk’s contract has a $20 million guarantee that kicks in April 1st, that would give the Niners some time to deal the star receiver if they desired to do so. The issue, of course, could come down to Aiyuk’s injury. Aiyuk caught 25 passes for 374 scoreless yards last season and saw his year come to an end in Week 7 due to a torn ACL and MCL. It’s hard to imagine any team wanting to take on Aiyuk given his injury and the money still remaining on his deal. While Lombardi doesn’t think a deal is unlikely, he did point out that the 49ers are giving “a firm no” to teams who may inquire about a trade.
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kyoun1e said:
Starting to think NE will have to possibly roll the dice and go after Aiyuk.

Probably could be had relatively cheap vs. Adams/Metcalf/etc. On the flip side, you're taking on injury risk and he may not play half the season.

Still he's young.

Play the long game here. We're not winning a championship next year.
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'I don't think it's likely' Niners trade Aiyuk

Speaking on the Pat McAfee Show, 49ers beat reporter David Lombardi said "I don't think it's likely that the 49ers are going to trade Brandon Aiyuk."
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Speaking on the Pat McAfee Show, 49ers beat reporter David Lombardi said “I don’t think it’s likely that the 49ers are going to trade Brandon Aiyuk.”

Lombardi points out the fact that Aiyuk’s contract has a $20 million guarantee that kicks in April 1st, that would give the Niners some time to deal the star receiver if they desired to do so. The issue, of course, could come down to Aiyuk’s injury. Aiyuk caught 25 passes for 374 scoreless yards last season and saw his year come to an end in Week 7 due to a torn ACL and MCL. It’s hard to imagine any team wanting to take on Aiyuk given his injury and the money still remaining on his deal. While Lombardi doesn’t think a deal is unlikely, he did point out that the 49ers are giving “a firm no” to teams who may inquire about a trade.
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Well then...

...Darius Slayton anyone?
 
Lansdowne said:
fruity pebbles said:
Lansdowne said:
There goes another WR option. Texans get Christian Kirk practically for free:


2026 7th round pick
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16 million cap hit is pretty steep for what he brings to the table imo
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Ah that would definitely explain it then. I wouldn't like Kirk at that price. Thanks for the heads up on that.
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Big picture I get it but they have the most cap space in the NFL and at least right now not a ton of options in FA (and the draft as far as making a big splash at WR)...Kirk is much better than any WR currently on their roster and since his contract is only 1 year there are zero long-term ramifications to giving up a #7 to acquire him...same thing with Thuney...hopefully things will make sense next week and we can see why they passed on some players that would be pretty big upgrades for them (and Drake Maye specifically) and would not hurt any future moves...next week is going to be so interesting...fingers crosed.
 
Hope this isn't just wishful thinking.

And H. Landry released.

The Boston Sports Journal reports the Patriots are “expected to be the driver” for WR Chris Godwin in free agency.
The Pats having a chance to pursue Godwin will depend on whether or not the Buccaneers can re-sign the veteran receiver before the start of the new league year. Godwin is coming off a season-ending ankle injury, but could fetch upwards of $25 million per year, according to reporter Michael Giardi. Before his injury, Godwin was playing some of the best football of his career, his 50-576-5 line over seven games had him on pace for a career-year. An underwhelming free agent market and a surplus of wideout-needy teams could lead to an eye-opening contract for Godwin.
 
Seattle in total tear down mode now shipping Geno out.

Wonder if this opens a door to a potential DK trade:

* Swap #4 pick for Seattle's #18 pick.
* Get DK & 18
* Give #4 and and maybe a later round pick.

Seattle asking for a first and a third (which is too much).

At pick 18, still a lot of OT / G (J. Simmons, Banks, Zabel), Edge (S. Stewart), TE (Loveland), WR (Golden, or even RB (Hampton) options available.

Or maybe a deal involving Milton?

Monday is too far away.
 
kyoun1e said:
Seattle in total tear down mode now shipping Geno out.

Wonder if this opens a door to a potential DK trade:

* Swap #4 pick for Seattle's #18 pick.
* Get DK & 18
* Give #4 and and maybe a later round pick.

Seattle asking for a first and a third (which is too much).

At pick 18, still a lot of OT / G (J. Simmons, Banks, Zabel), Edge (S. Stewart), TE (Loveland), WR (Golden, or even RB (Hampton) options available.

Or maybe a deal involving Milton?

Monday is too far away.
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The problem with this is that Seattle is not in tear-down mode if you believe the reports that they have Darnold lined up.

And a pick swap is not enough for the Seahawks, one would think. Unless they are tearing it to the studs.
 
rockaction said:
kyoun1e said:
Seattle in total tear down mode now shipping Geno out.

Wonder if this opens a door to a potential DK trade:

* Swap #4 pick for Seattle's #18 pick.
* Get DK & 18
* Give #4 and and maybe a later round pick.

Seattle asking for a first and a third (which is too much).

At pick 18, still a lot of OT / G (J. Simmons, Banks, Zabel), Edge (S. Stewart), TE (Loveland), WR (Golden, or even RB (Hampton) options available.

Or maybe a deal involving Milton?

Monday is too far away.
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The problem with this is that Seattle is not in tear-down mode if you believe the reports that they have Darnold lined up.

And a pick swap is not enough for the Seahawks, one would think. Unless they are tearing it to the studs.
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On the radio yesterday they played an older video discussing Howell.
He had an exceptional game against them the year before they traded for him. Coach brought up 3rd and 20 -23 and they had everything covered but he ran for a first. He went on and on.
Pat Kirwan discussed how he can't run a Geno offense. They're different players. Hawks regretted not putting a package in for him and will do so this summer.
Farrar wrote a lengthy piece w video of plays where he was outstanding against Seattle. (Same game)
(I've long said 4k yards first year as a starter and everyone riding the kid was wrong)

The word is that they want competition for Howell. They're not necessarily ready to hand him the keys but they've spent a year w him and worked thru some things and are intrigued.

I don't think they're Darnold suitors. Someone like Minshew a couple years ago, that fits moreso. Have a sincere competition and see if the kid rises above it.

Metcalf is hurt his boy Lockett was released. His coach was signed by the Raiders. He made a number of Titans comments when both safeties were playing last year. I have no doubt Metcalf is upset but is he sincerely "I want to be traded" type upset of it stinks getting old in the no fun league upset? I think everyone wants to give him a week or so to calm down. He made an incoherent post of Russell Wilson and deleted. I think he meant Russell is coming to visit this weekend. That made me guess his buddy said I got a check on him and stop by.
The NFL world has gotta wait on Metcalf. He's gotta relax and think clearly. He was too emotional initially
 
kyoun1e said:
Hope this isn't just wishful thinking.

And H. Landry released.
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Two Titans player podcasts mention him going to New England so his former teammates think same as me.
Vrabel was all if they want to play here they'll play here but in today's game ya gotta shmooze sometimes and he learned that in TEN.
I would guess Landry is the guinea pig. Pats plan to (idk?) take him in a limo to Boston and show him the facilities in Foxboro and have some retired player like Tippett happen to be there. What's their shmoozey tour like?

So Landry likely wants to go and wants to feel wanted but they've got a get him to play for less and with his relationship with Vrabel he's sure to give some honest feedback too.

Use him as the guinea pig and when they chase a name, they'll have all that shmoozing stuff ironed out.
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DeMarcus Walker was the only effective backup edge in TEN for Landry- hence huge snap counts for Landry. He's journeyman that is a free agent and good for 5-6 sacks as a sub. He became available too.

I could imagine Vrabel adding that duo. He's got one spot settled.

That's not to say Walker won't get beat out or to pretend the Pats had no one playing edge last year either. Ya just don't brush off a cheap backup the coach can count on when building the 90. I think there's some decent probability that the Pats add both.
 
Vrabel doesn't care for Adoree and Fulton due to frequency of injuries.
I've seen a lot of mentions of them to NE.
I would strongly bet against that.
They're blessed athletes like any high pick but it was a low-key thing in TEN.
Fulton playing well with the Chargers and Harbaugh letting him walk doesn't help his case either.
I'd be very surprised.

D'onta Foreman yeah he makes sense. The ultimate team player at RB. He can be inactive and also start a few. Vrabel was with him in CLE too. If Stevenson fumbles, Foreman can start while Vrabel has Stevenson carry a football everywhere or some coach thing.

Spears supposedly available- same, Vrabel doesn't like often injured guys.

I get it with both but RBs are a dime a dozen and the draft is so strong. I don't imagine the backs added either.

Swaim- yeah maybe. Cheap, good blocker, eh hands but he can catch. If the Pats need a blocking TE maybe. Pruitt, identical, just very good hands.

I think a lot of radio hosts and fans have gotta understand not every former Vrabel player was good. The Titans, Browns, Falcons (Arthur) all under performed last year and some free agents may be the reason they underperformed even if it's just availability.

Vrabel won't be a dumpster in New England (maybe for coaching buddies like Downing over Welker) and there's a real lot of that out there right now.
It's mostly backups he could add. Valued backups sure but there's absolutely no shine coming off his former teams. It's not like he coached the Chiefs.
 
Bri said:
Vrabel doesn't care for Adoree and Fulton due to frequency of injuries.
I've seen a lot of mentions of them to NE.
I would strongly bet against that.
They're blessed athletes like any high pick but it was a low-key thing in TEN.
Fulton playing well with the Chargers and Harbaugh letting him walk doesn't help his case either.
I'd be very surprised.

D'onta Foreman yeah he makes sense. The ultimate team player at RB. He can be inactive and also start a few. Vrabel was with him in CLE too. If Stevenson fumbles, Foreman can start while Vrabel has Stevenson carry a football everywhere or some coach thing.

Spears supposedly available- same, Vrabel doesn't like often injured guys.

I get it with both but RBs are a dime a dozen and the draft is so strong. I don't imagine the backs added either.

Swaim- yeah maybe. Cheap, good blocker, eh hands but he can catch. If the Pats need a blocking TE maybe. Pruitt, identical, just very good hands.

I think a lot of radio hosts and fans have gotta understand not every former Vrabel player was good. The Titans, Browns, Falcons (Arthur) all under performed last year and some free agents may be the reason they underperformed even if it's just availability.

Vrabel won't be a dumpster in New England (maybe for coaching buddies like Downing over Welker) and there's a real lot of that out there right now.
It's mostly backups he could add. Valued backups sure but there's absolutely no shine coming off his former teams. It's not like he coached the Chiefs.
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Locally there hasn’t been much talk about “old Vrabel” players outside of Landry (for obvious reasons) and AJB ( the pipe dream that no one thinks could actually happen)…with all the holes and the amount of cap space they have I’m sure Vrabel will be adding some guys he has history with but this roster needs far more than that.
 
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Staley staying with the Ravens. Will be interesting to see if they can get any top shelf players onto the roster. May have to turn to trading instead.
 
Anarchy99 said:
Staley staying with the Ravens. Will be interesting to see if they can get any top shelf players onto the roster. May have to turn to trading instead.
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Maybe will have to go Commanders route from last year on offense, grab a bunch of middlers and hope they work out :shrug:

The best remaining FAs are on defense (Reed/Sweat/Williams/Holland etc). If you have to spend the $ with the current state of the roster I would just collect the best players they can get(if that's on Defense so be it). I'd also like to see an upgrade at LB with a Bolton/Greenlaw/Sherwood type.
 
This is sort of disheartening to watch. I'm sure somebody wants their money, but who takes the plunge into those icy green waters of cash? The last thing you want, and I think this is what Kraft... is getting at, is a bunch of middlers.

Signing great guys on defense is a better way to go about it. That way you're not pouring money into Jonnu Smith types (who you can't, won't, or just don't use) and the like and getting no return. That's just painful.
 
Anarchy99 said:
Staley staying with the Ravens. Will be interesting to see if they can get any top shelf players onto the roster. May have to turn to trading instead.
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Unfortunately they are in a tough situation that is part their fault and part bad luck...the bad luck is this is not a strong free agent class, especially for their biggest needs...the part that is their fault is the roster is in such a bad spot top-tier free agents may not be interested to come here even if they overpay...hopefully they can still sign a few "premium" free agents but they may need to do something similar to 2001 where they sign a bunch of "solid" veterans that upgrade the overall roster while helping instill a new culture and stopping the bleeding from the past few years...accomplish that and with Maye and Vrabel in-place and hopefully by this time next year they will be far more attractive to veteran players.
 
Anarchy99 said:
Staley staying with the Ravens. Will be interesting to see if they can get any top shelf players onto the roster. May have to turn to trading instead.
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Another one down. And now Andrews released.

Are they really going to overpay for the likes of C. Robinson or D. Moore now? Think these guys define "middling" tackle options. Marone has a connection with Robinson from JAX.

Meanwhile, it looks like the cost for Metcalf came down. 3rd rounder.

Next 48 hours are going to be interesting (and hopefully not too depressing).
 
kyoun1e said:
Anarchy99 said:
Staley staying with the Ravens. Will be interesting to see if they can get any top shelf players onto the roster. May have to turn to trading instead.
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Another one down. And now Andrews released.

Are they really going to overpay for the likes of C. Robinson or D. Moore now? Think these guys define "middling" tackle options. Marone has a connection with Robinson from JAX.

Meanwhile, it looks like the cost for Metcalf came down. 3rd rounder.

Next 48 hours are going to be interesting (and hopefully not too depressing).
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Unfortunately they may have to...not sure what other choice they have, and the sad part is it will still be a big upgrade over last year...if they are contracts that have shorter-term (I'm not worried about short-term $ with their cap situation), I will be OK with it because I just don't know what other options they have...they need to get the line to at least average this year.

As you said, it's gonna be interesting...they have had plenty of time to prepare for this, let's see what they come up with.
 
Boston said:
kyoun1e said:
Anarchy99 said:
Staley staying with the Ravens. Will be interesting to see if they can get any top shelf players onto the roster. May have to turn to trading instead.
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Another one down. And now Andrews released.

Are they really going to overpay for the likes of C. Robinson or D. Moore now? Think these guys define "middling" tackle options. Marone has a connection with Robinson from JAX.

Meanwhile, it looks like the cost for Metcalf came down. 3rd rounder.

Next 48 hours are going to be interesting (and hopefully not too depressing).
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Unfortunately they may have to...not sure what other choice they have, and the sad part is it will still be a big upgrade over last year...if they are contracts that have shorter-term (I'm not worried about short-term $ with their cap situation), I will be OK with it because I just don't know what other options they have...they need to get the line to at least average this year.

As you said, it's gonna be interesting...they have had plenty of time to prepare for this, let's see what they come up with.
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All you can hope for is that they've done their homework, have their priorities in order, and are ready to move fast if the prices is right.

And then, hope that they chose right.

Let's go Vrabel.
 
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Garrett extended in CLE. They are going to make a big move and overpay someone. Hopefully it won’t be cringy bad.
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I just don't understand the cap. It's like it doesn't exist.

So many teams who appear to be up against it just find a way.

I'm with Felger on this. The cap is complete crap.
 
kyoun1e said:
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Garrett extended in CLE. They are going to make a big move and overpay someone. Hopefully it won’t be cringy bad.
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I just don't understand the cap. It's like it doesn't exist.

So many teams who appear to be up against it just find a way.

I'm with Felger on this. The cap is complete crap.
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Because of the cap, Garrett wasn't ever going to be moved. It'd cost the Browns an additional ~$17m in space to trade him, so barring a massive overpay why would they consider doing it? This extension will eat into some of their available cap, but probably less than $5m.
 
kyoun1e said:
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Garrett extended in CLE. They are going to make a big move and overpay someone. Hopefully it won’t be cringy bad.
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I just don't understand the cap. It's like it doesn't exist.

So many teams who appear to be up against it just find a way.

I'm with Felger on this. The cap is complete crap.
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The Browns converted most of Deshaun Watson’s 2025 salary (all but $1M) into a bonus instead to reduce the cap hit for this season. It made his cap number for next year $82M, but it freed up $36M in cap space for this year. At some point, the cap bill will come due and they will have to eat a ton of dead money. But they can postpone it for awhile.
 
Anarchy99 said:
kyoun1e said:
Anarchy99 said:
Garrett extended in CLE. They are going to make a big move and overpay someone. Hopefully it won’t be cringy bad.
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I just don't understand the cap. It's like it doesn't exist.

So many teams who appear to be up against it just find a way.

I'm with Felger on this. The cap is complete crap.
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The Browns converted most of Deshaun Watson’s 2025 salary (all but $1M) into a bonus instead to reduce the cap hit for this season. It made his cap number for next year $82M, but it freed up $36M in cap space for this year. At some point, the cap bill will come due and they will have to eat a ton of dead money. But they can postpone it for awhile.
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It'll be next year. If he's cut with a post June 1 designation his cap hit for '26 is the same as if his contract is unchanged and he's still on the team.
 
I was listening to an Omarrion Hampton and then Kaleb Johnson interview.

Hampton was saying all the right things in how he committed to working on his blocking and passing catching the last two years. Then he had an explanation of how the world turns if Drake Maye is kept upright and if he can be a safety valve for him. I'm sure y'all would have eaten that up.

Kaleb models his game after Derrick Henry and has had discussions with Henry about everything including diet and workout and recovery. He hopes whoever drafts him will allow him some time to spend working out and learning from Henry. Lifelong dream and he hopes the team understands. Henry said he'd visit him where he lands but he'd like to workout w him at his setup in TEN or Dallas. If there is a way for some college kid to make Vrabel reconsider Stevenson, he probably just did it. Ya gotta put this kid on the radar.
 
Cody Hollister is just a camp body.
Type ya have to google if he made the team. Greate hustle and effort but not at all an elite talent at an elite position. He's a barometer
 
The Pats take a $6.67M cap charge to move on from Godchaux. Sure, they have a ton of cap space, but not the best use of resources. He doesn’t fit the scheme and style they want to run, so it’s probably for the best.
 
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The Pats take a $6.67M cap charge to move on from Godchaux. Sure, they have a ton of cap space, but not the best use of resources. He doesn’t fit the scheme and style they want to run, so it’s probably for the best.
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Agreed...it's not like they got back a decent pick to take this hit...I guess they need to accumulate as many picks as they can and with their cap space they can do it but that is a decent chunk of change.
 
Any concerns about the return of McDaniels? Sure, his accomplishments with TB12 were great as his OC (124-33 . . .for a .790 winning percentage in the regular season). But all other games as a HC or OC without Brady, his record was 52-69 . . . for a .430 winning percentage. In a 17-game season, that's the difference between 13.4 wins and 7.3 wins. They had a decent season record-wise with Cassel (with a totally stacked roster) and another decent record with Mac 'n' Cheese as a rookie, but the rest of the time his teams were pretty mediocre.

As of now, the offense still needs a huge infusion of talent, and who knows if Maye is more like Brady or more like "the others" (Cassel, Orton, Bradford, Newton, Jones, Carr, O'Connell, Garrappolo). Maye likely is better than those QBs . . . but the talent level on offense is bad. Maybe not as bad as the 2011 Rams with JCM as OC (9 total passing TD that season and only 16 total offensive TD), but still bad.
 
Anarchy99 said:
Any concerns about the return of McDaniels? Sure, his accomplishments with TB12 were great as his OC (124-33 . . .for a .790 winning percentage in the regular season). But all other games as a HC or OC without Brady, his record was 52-69 . . . for a .430 winning percentage. In a 17-game season, that's the difference between 13.4 wins and 7.3 wins. They had a decent season record-wise with Cassel (with a totally stacked roster) and another decent record with Mac 'n' Cheese as a rookie, but the rest of the time his teams were pretty mediocre.

As of now, the offense still needs a huge infusion of talent, and who knows if Maye is more like Brady or more like "the others" (Cassel, Orton, Bradford, Newton, Jones, Carr, O'Connell, Garrappolo). Maye likely is better than those QBs . . . but the talent level on offense is bad. Maybe not as bad as the 2011 Rams with JCM as OC (9 total passing TD that season and only 16 total offensive TD), but still bad.
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Zero concerns about McDaniels...actually think he is very much a positive and the fact he will most likely be here for a long period of time will greatly aid Maye's development...he has wanted a mobile QB for a while and I think he is going to use Maye's athleticism to the fullest...as you point out it's all about talent on the offense...they have a bad line and limited (that is being kind) weapons...that needs to improve or else it really won't matter who the OC is.
 
Boston said:
Zero concerns about McDaniels...actually think he is very much a positive and the fact he will most likely be here for a long period of time will greatly aid Maye's development...he has wanted a mobile QB for a while and I think he is going to use Maye's athleticism to the fullest...as you point out it's all about talent on the offense...they have a bad line and limited (that is being kind) weapons...that needs to improve or else it really won't matter who the OC is.
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I get it, a lot goes into winning or losing. In his first year in LV, Jacobs had 2K+ YFS and Adams had 1.5K reciving yards (both All-Pro's). The Raiders still only ranked 12th in scoring and yardage. But they only had 6 wins.

I don't see anyone on the NE roster anywhere near the level of Jacobs or Adams, nor do I think they stand a chance of ranking 12th in scoring or yardage. We'll see how it goes, but I think Daniels is great as an OC when he has a fully stocked cupboard, but I think he really struggles when he has mediocre weapons. That's probably true for most OC's, so the question becomes, can the Pats bring in a lot more talent on offense? It's been many years since the answer to that was yes, but that doesn't automatically mean the new roster will be lacking. Hoping for a lot but expecting marginal results on the offensive upgrade front.
 
Boston said:
I do get the thinking but at some point you gotta figure out this position.

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NFL Rumors: Reasons Why Patriots Didn't Trade For DK Metcalf

A Patriots insider revealed reasons why New England didn't trade for DK Metcalf, who reportedly landed with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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LOL. Metcalf wanted stability in the QB position (Steelers don't have that) and warm weather (not).

It's all about the money as usual.

About an hour to go until we hear Godwin is signed elsewhere...
 
kyoun1e said:
Boston said:
I do get the thinking but at some point you gotta figure out this position.

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NFL Rumors: Reasons Why Patriots Didn't Trade For DK Metcalf

A Patriots insider revealed reasons why New England didn't trade for DK Metcalf, who reportedly landed with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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LOL. Metcalf wanted stability in the QB position (Steelers don't have that) and warm weather (not).

It's all about the money as usual.

About an hour to go until we hear Godwin is signed elsewhere...
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...and there it is.

And per Rap the Pats offered $20M more. Jeesh. Here we go again.
 
kyoun1e said:
kyoun1e said:
Boston said:
I do get the thinking but at some point you gotta figure out this position.

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NFL Rumors: Reasons Why Patriots Didn't Trade For DK Metcalf

A Patriots insider revealed reasons why New England didn't trade for DK Metcalf, who reportedly landed with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
nesn.com nesn.com
Click to expand...

LOL. Metcalf wanted stability in the QB position (Steelers don't have that) and warm weather (not).

It's all about the money as usual.

About an hour to go until we hear Godwin is signed elsewhere...
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...and there it is.
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And Jaylon Moore to the Chiefs…I think they are going to sign 15 Russ Ventone’s.
 
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