IRS Apologizes For Targeting Conservative Political Groups In 2012 Ele (2 Viewers)

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Whether you like the tea party or not you should be alarmed that the IRS has been engaged in partisan politics. This is the same organization that will soon be running health care.

This is not the proper role of the IRS

Listening to "pants on fire" Bachmann again?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/may/20/michele-bachmann/michele-bachmann-decries-huge-national-database-ru/

 

[Carolina Hustler]

So how did this change the election again?

If it had no effect on the election then it was ok?

 

[drummer]

Whether you like the tea party or not you should be alarmed that the IRS has been engaged in partisan politics. This is the same organization that will soon be running health care.

This is not the proper role of the IRS

Listening to "pants on fire" Bachmann again?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/may/20/michele-bachmann/michele-bachmann-decries-huge-national-database-ru/

They should go after her hubbie's 'church' too.

 

[drummer]

So how did this change the election again?

If it had no effect on the election then it was ok?

Because that's where the OUTRAGE lies, right?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

So how did this change the election again?

If it had no effect on the election then it was ok?

Because that's where the OUTRAGE lies, right?

Did you see someone in here claim that this single incident changed the election? Or is this just another straw-man propped up by an Obama apologist..

 

[tommyboy]

Whether you like the tea party or not you should be alarmed that the IRS has been engaged in partisan politics. This is the same organization that will soon be running health care.

This is not the proper role of the IRS

Listening to "pants on fire" Bachmann again?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/may/20/michele-bachmann/michele-bachmann-decries-huge-national-database-ru/

Who's bachman?The IRS is charged with implementing 47 sections of the ACA and plans to staff almost 2000 additional full time workers this year.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Drummer, it's the intent of these actions that is troubling.. You brush it off since it didn't change the election which just leaves the door open for it to happen again.

 

[drummer]

So how did this change the election again?

If it had no effect on the election then it was ok?

Because that's where the OUTRAGE lies, right?

Did you see someone in here claim that this single incident changed the election? Or is this just another straw-man propped up by an Obama apologist..

Why do political organizations needs the tax exemption anyway? By all means, tag them in a sort of 'cloud tag':

Pinko commie Tea Party LGBT Maddow Hannity Patriot Gingrich John Stewart Birthers Kooks Carolina Hustler

There ya go.

ETA: forgot to add the 'the cloud': Alec Baldwin

 

[Carolina Hustler]

So how did this change the election again?

If it had no effect on the election then it was ok?

Because that's where the OUTRAGE lies, right?

Did you see someone in here claim that this single incident changed the election? Or is this just another straw-man propped up by an Obama apologist..

Why do political organizations needs the tax exemption anyway? By all means, tag them in a sort of 'cloud tag':

Pinko commie Tea Party LGBT Maddow Hannity Patriot Gingrich John Stewart Birthers Kooks Carolina Hustler

There ya go.

when wrong, resort to insults..

Any non-profit organization is eligible for tax exempt status per our current tax code.. Now you wanna tell me how that has anything to do with the IRS breaking the rules? Is there some point you're trying to make here?

 

[drummer]

So how did this change the election again?

If it had no effect on the election then it was ok?

Because that's where the OUTRAGE lies, right?

Did you see someone in here claim that this single incident changed the election? Or is this just another straw-man propped up by an Obama apologist..

Why do political organizations needs the tax exemption anyway? By all means, tag them in a sort of 'cloud tag':

Pinko commie Tea Party LGBT Maddow Hannity Patriot Gingrich John Stewart Birthers Kooks Carolina Hustler

There ya go.

when wrong, resort to insults..

Any non-profit organization is eligible for tax exempt status per our current tax code.. Now you wanna tell me how that has anything to do with the IRS breaking the rules? Is there some point you're trying to make here?

Has anybody asked what these organizations actually do? Where their $$ goes? Or is the OUTRAGE just pinned to the IRS categorizing and scrutinizing said organizations who want a tax exemption (both conservative and progressive) in the era of SuperPacs and stuff?

Anybody?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

So how did this change the election again?

If it had no effect on the election then it was ok?

Because that's where the OUTRAGE lies, right?

Did you see someone in here claim that this single incident changed the election? Or is this just another straw-man propped up by an Obama apologist..

Why do political organizations needs the tax exemption anyway? By all means, tag them in a sort of 'cloud tag':

Pinko commie Tea Party LGBT Maddow Hannity Patriot Gingrich John Stewart Birthers Kooks Carolina Hustler

There ya go.

when wrong, resort to insults..

Any non-profit organization is eligible for tax exempt status per our current tax code.. Now you wanna tell me how that has anything to do with the IRS breaking the rules? Is there some point you're trying to make here?

Has anybody asked what these organizations actually do? Where their $$ goes? Or is the OUTRAGE just pinned to the IRS categorizing and scrutinizing said organizations who want a tax exemption (both conservative and progressive) in the era of SuperPacs and stuff?

Anybody?

You ever answer questions? I mean, with something other than a question?...

I guess profiling is ok then.. You should be a civil rights leader..

 

[drummer]

Carolina Hustler, on 21 May 2013 - 00:41, said:

drummer, on 20 May 2013 - 23:14, said:

Carolina Hustler, on 20 May 2013 - 23:07, said:

drummer, on 20 May 2013 - 23:04, said:

Carolina Hustler, on 20 May 2013 - 23:01, said:

drummer, on 20 May 2013 - 22:58, said:

Carolina Hustler, on 20 May 2013 - 22:57, said:

drummer, on 20 May 2013 - 19:07, said:So how did this change the election again?

If it had no effect on the election then it was ok?

Because that's where the OUTRAGE lies, right?

Did you see someone in here claim that this single incident changed the election? Or is this just another straw-man propped up by an Obama apologist..

Why do political organizations needs the tax exemption anyway? By all means, tag them in a sort of 'cloud tag': Pinko commie Tea Party LGBT Maddow Hannity Patriot Gingrich John Stewart Birthers Kooks Carolina HustlerThere ya go.

when wrong, resort to insults.. Any non-profit organization is eligible for tax exempt status per our current tax code.. Now you wanna tell me how that has anything to do with the IRS breaking the rules? Is there some point you're trying to make here?

Has anybody asked what these organizations actually do? Where their $$ goes? Or is the OUTRAGE just pinned to the IRS categorizing and scrutinizing said organizations who want a tax exemption (both conservative and progressive) in the era of SuperPacs and stuff? Anybody?

You ever answer questions? I mean, with something other than a question?...I guess profiling is ok then.. You should be a civil rights leader..

It's a simple question. That's the question that should be asked first: who are these organizations, why do they need a special tax exemption in the first place, and where does the $$ go to? If the $$ goes to line a lobbyists/politicians pocket in one fashion or another, they why let them game the IRS? Of course you won't answer that, because you're too busy stuck in the mud and in the wrong gear.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

Whether you like the tea party or not you should be alarmed that the IRS has been engaged in partisan politics. This is the same organization that will soon be running health care.

This is not the proper role of the IRS

Has new news broke?

Drummer, it's the intent of these actions that is troubling.. You brush it off since it didn't change the election which just leaves the door open for it to happen again.

The intent of a reduced staffed department trying to find a way to deal with an increased work load is troubling?

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

The IRS is charged with implementing 47 sections of the ACA and plans to staff almost 2000 additional full time workers this year.

So those departments will be adequately staffed and won't need to take the inappropriate short cuts like the short staffed office in Cincinnati. Funny how the "starve the beast" guys always jump all over the government failures as indicative of something other than the policies they demand.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

Has anybody asked what these organizations actually do? Where their $$ goes? ...

They engage in the public service of educating the public on the issues of the day. For example they teach the American public the need "to keep governments hands of my Medicare",

 

[tommyboy]

its funny how when gov't doesn't work its always those evil republicans fault. But when it does good its Democrats great ideas.

actually, its not really funny its point at the shirt territory.

 

[pittstownkiller]

So how did this change the election again?

If it had no effect on the election then it was ok?

Because that's where the OUTRAGE lies, right?

Did you see someone in here claim that this single incident changed the election? Or is this just another straw-man propped up by an Obama apologist..

Why do political organizations needs the tax exemption anyway? By all means, tag them in a sort of 'cloud tag': Pinko commie Tea Party LGBT Maddow Hannity Patriot Gingrich John Stewart Birthers Kooks Carolina Hustler There ya go. ETA: forgot to add the 'the cloud': Alec Baldwin

I am glad you left off "drummer", since you have no supporting organization.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Are you disputing the facts that Bush stacked the Dept of Justice with Fundies?

What does this have to do with the story at hand?



What's the correlation?

I said I was more outraged at this than I am with the IRS thingee....try to read the whole thread, GB. Helps in context.

Intended diversion from the topic by "your guy is worse, blabla is why"... Typical...

 

[Carolina Hustler]

CrossEyed, on 18 May 2013 - 22:15, said:Ok, I'm done talking about abortion, that's not what this thread is for.

Yep. It is place instead to show that you and the rest of the right wing crazies have learned nothing from the Ashley Todd experience.

For every Ashley Todd there is a Meg Lanker-Simons.

You are so busy connecting the dots that leads to the evil Obama that you miss the point entirely that my post had nothing to do with what Ashley Todd did.

Connecting dots is not necessary. What happens in an organization starts at the top. When an administration is riddled with corruption, arrogance, and/or ineptitude, the guy at the top either fixes it, or he's responsible for it. There really are no other options.

Where are you on GWB being responsible for over 100,000 meaningless deaths including 4,000 Americans, going into Iraq looking for WMDs?

He actually ordered that - and it's a little bit of a bigger deal than the IRS looking at tea party tax status.

You take this IRS thing so seriously because of "responsibility at the top", I'd think you'd be picketing the white house every day from 2003-2008.

Here's some more... We should compare the IRS scandal to Hiroshima bombing next.. This could get interesting...

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Carolina Hustler, on 21 May 2013 - 00:41, said:

drummer, on 20 May 2013 - 23:14, said:

Carolina Hustler, on 20 May 2013 - 23:07, said:

drummer, on 20 May 2013 - 23:04, said:

Carolina Hustler, on 20 May 2013 - 23:01, said:

drummer, on 20 May 2013 - 22:58, said:

Carolina Hustler, on 20 May 2013 - 22:57, said:

drummer, on 20 May 2013 - 19:07, said:So how did this change the election again?

If it had no effect on the election then it was ok?

Because that's where the OUTRAGE lies, right?

Did you see someone in here claim that this single incident changed the election? Or is this just another straw-man propped up by an Obama apologist..

Why do political organizations needs the tax exemption anyway? By all means, tag them in a sort of 'cloud tag'inko commie Tea Party LGBT Maddow Hannity Patriot Gingrich John Stewart Birthers Kooks Carolina HustlerThere ya go.

when wrong, resort to insults.. Any non-profit organization is eligible for tax exempt status per our current tax code.. Now you wanna tell me how that has anything to do with the IRS breaking the rules? Is there some point you're trying to make here?

Has anybody asked what these organizations actually do? Where their $$ goes? Or is the OUTRAGE just pinned to the IRS categorizing and scrutinizing said organizations who want a tax exemption (both conservative and progressive) in the era of SuperPacs and stuff?Anybody?

You ever answer questions? I mean, with something other than a question?...I guess profiling is ok then.. You should be a civil rights leader..

It's a simple question. That's the question that should be asked first: who are these organizations, why do they need a special tax exemption in the first place, and where does the $$ go to?If the $$ goes to line a lobbyists/politicians pocket in one fashion or another, they why let them game the IRS?Of course you won't answer that, because you're too busy stuck in the mud and in the wrong gear.

With them being audited after claiming tax exempt status, don't you think that information would be out by now if they were breaking the rules or doing something immoral?

So, since these folks were profiled, lets play devils advocate and pretend they deserved it, regardless of having no evidence of wrong doing.. To hell with there rights.. Right?

This is just another straw man diversion..

You're the one who isn't answering simple questions.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

The intent of a reduced staffed department trying to find a way to deal with an increased work load is troubling?

By breaking the rules, and profiling, and violating the rights of their countrymen?

Ummm, you think?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

The IRS is charged with implementing 47 sections of the ACA and plans to staff almost 2000 additional full time workers this year.

So those departments will be adequately staffed and won't need to take the inappropriate short cuts like the short staffed office in Cincinnati. Funny how the "starve the beast" guys always jump all over the government failures as indicative of something other than the policies they demand.

So you're now going to insinuate that the IRS is poorly funded, because of conservatives, and tha'ts why they deserve a violation..? Have I got that right?

You have a link showing us the IRS is broke? Not saying they are or aren't but if you're going to make that claim, lets see your intell..

 

[Carolina Hustler]

The IRS is charged with implementing 47 sections of the ACA and plans to staff almost 2000 additional full time workers this year.

So those departments will be adequately staffed and won't need to take the inappropriate short cuts like the short staffed office in Cincinnati. Funny how the "starve the beast" guys always jump all over the government failures as indicative of something other than the policies they demand.

It's a feature, not a bug.

Deny government the money to perform the functions required under the law, then claim government doesn't work.

Deny the State Department funds to improve security at facilities around the world, then raise hell when security isn't strong enough to fight off an attack.

Etc. etc.

Yes, cause they don't have enough money and it's only do to the lack of money that they make horrible decisions..

 

[soothsayer]

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-top-irs-official-fifth-amendment-20130521,0,6645565.story

WASHINGTON – A top IRS official in the division that reviews nonprofit groups will invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions before a House committee investigating the agency’s improper screening of conservative nonprofit groups.

Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, won’t answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening – or why she didn’t reveal it to Congress, according to a letter from her defense lawyer, William W. Taylor 3rd.

 

[Parrothead]

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-top-irs-official-fifth-amendment-20130521,0,6645565.story

WASHINGTON – A top IRS official in the division that reviews nonprofit groups will invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions before a House committee investigating the agency’s improper screening of conservative nonprofit groups.

Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, won’t answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening – or why she didn’t reveal it to Congress, according to a letter from her defense lawyer, William W. Taylor 3rd.

shocking seems like telling the truth is frowned upon in Washington these days

 

[Widbil83]

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-top-irs-official-fifth-amendment-20130521,0,6645565.story

WASHINGTON A top IRS official in the division that reviews nonprofit groups will invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions before a House committee investigating the agencys improper screening of conservative nonprofit groups.

Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, wont answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening or why she didnt reveal it to Congress, according to a letter from her defense lawyer, William W. Taylor 3rd.

Wow.

 

[GroveDiesel]

So how did this change the election again?

You see...well...err....they ...umm...

IMPEACH OBAMA!

Weird that no one is complaining that the IRS also 'targeted' progressive groups as well.

Because they didn't.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Whether you like the tea party or not you should be alarmed that the IRS has been engaged in partisan politics. This is the same organization that will soon be running health care.This is not the proper role of the IRS

Has new news broke?

>Drummer, it's the intent of these actions that is troubling.. You brush it off since it didn't change the election which just leaves the door open for it to happen again.

The intent of a reduced staffed department trying to find a way to deal with an increased work load is troubling?

This had nothing to do with staffing. There are letters from 4 different offices including the main office in D.C. And the profiling started in 2010 when the number of applications actually DROPPED from the previous year. Finally, let's not forget that there has already been testimony that no keywords to identify liberal groups were used. Seems like if they were trying to reduce workload, they would have done all they could to identify all political groups, not just one side. It also seems like instituting something that required them to send dozens of extra followup letters per case and request huge volumes of ridiculous information like the content of people's prayers, family members' beliefs, etc. would be the opposite of cutting workload. If they had simply treated the cases like they were supposed to without asking illegal questions, they would have had a MUCH easier workload than what they created.

The "they were understaffed so the GOP is to blame" is a load of garbage and completely ridiculous. Stop repeating it.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

So how did this change the election again?

You see...well...err....they ...umm...

IMPEACH OBAMA!

Weird that no one is complaining that the IRS also 'targeted' progressive groups as well.

Because they didn't.

So how did this change the election again?

You see...well...err....they ...umm...

IMPEACH OBAMA!

Weird that no one is complaining that the IRS also 'targeted' progressive groups as well.

Because they didn't.

Outgoing acting IRS commissioner Steve Miller: "They didn't sir. Organizations of all walks and all persuasions were pulled in. That's shown by the fact that only 70 of the 300 organizations were tea party organizations, of the ones that were looked at by TIGTA [Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration]."

BUT you didn't see that blasted all over your TV news that night.

And from Bloomberg reporting: IRS Sent Same Letter to Democrats That Fed Tea Party Row

If you want more here is the link>

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-johnson/the-latest-lie-irs-target_b_3313345.html

 

[tommyboy]

So how did this change the election again?

You see...well...err....they ...umm...

IMPEACH OBAMA!

Weird that no one is complaining that the IRS also 'targeted' progressive groups as well.

Because they didn't.

>

So how did this change the election again?

You see...well...err....they ...umm...

IMPEACH OBAMA!

Weird that no one is complaining that the IRS also 'targeted' progressive groups as well.

Because they didn't.

Outgoing acting IRS commissioner Steve Miller: "They didn't sir. Organizations of all walks and all persuasions were pulled in. That's shown by the fact that only 70 of the 300 organizations were tea party organizations, of the ones that were looked at by TIGTA [Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration]."

BUT you didn't see that blasted all over your TV news that night.

And from Bloomberg reporting: IRS Sent Same Letter to Democrats That Fed Tea Party Row

If you want more here is the link>

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-johnson/the-latest-lie-irs-target_b_3313345.html

your 1st link lists 3, yes count them, three examples, vs oh say 500 conservative groups

 

[BigSteelThrill]

So how did this change the election again?

You see...well...err....they ...umm...

IMPEACH OBAMA!

Weird that no one is complaining that the IRS also 'targeted' progressive groups as well.

Because they didn't.

>>

So how did this change the election again?

You see...well...err....they ...umm...

IMPEACH OBAMA!

Weird that no one is complaining that the IRS also 'targeted' progressive groups as well.

Because they didn't.

Outgoing acting IRS commissioner Steve Miller: "They didn't sir. Organizations of all walks and all persuasions were pulled in. That's shown by the fact that only 70 of the 300 organizations were tea party organizations, of the ones that were looked at by TIGTA [Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration]."

BUT you didn't see that blasted all over your TV news that night.

And from Bloomberg reporting: IRS Sent Same Letter to Democrats That Fed Tea Party Row

If you want more here is the link>

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-johnson/the-latest-lie-irs-target_b_3313345.html

your 1st link lists 3, yes count them, three examples, vs oh say 500 conservative groups

Its all about who is whining about having to show anything or pay anything to the IRS. You know those anti-tax types are gonna ##### about civic duties.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

Whether you like the tea party or not you should be alarmed that the IRS has been engaged in partisan politics. This is the same organization that will soon be running health care.This is not the proper role of the IRS

Has new news broke?

>Drummer, it's the intent of these actions that is troubling.. You brush it off since it didn't change the election which just leaves the door open for it to happen

again.

The intent of a reduced staffed department trying to find a way to deal with an increased work load is troubling?

This had nothing to do with staffing. There are letters from 4 different offices including the main office in D.C. And the profiling started in 2010 when the number of applications actually DROPPED from the previous year. Finally, let's not forget that there has already been testimony that no keywords to identify liberal groups were used. Seems like if they were trying to reduce workload, they would have done all they could to identify all political groups, not just one side. It also seems like instituting something that required them to send dozens of extra followup letters per case and request huge volumes of ridiculous information like the content of people's prayers, family members' beliefs, etc. would be the opposite of cutting workload. If they had simply treated the cases like they were supposed to without asking illegal questions, they would have had a MUCH easier workload than what they created.

The "they were understaffed so the GOP is to blame" is a load of garbage and completely ridiculous. Stop repeating it.

I apologize for allowing the facts we have via Friday's testimony under oath get in the way of your good story.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

The IRS is charged with implementing 47 sections of the ACA and plans to staff almost 2000 additional full time workers this year.

So those departments will be adequately staffed and won't need to take the inappropriate short cuts like the short staffed office in Cincinnati. Funny how the "starve the beast" guys always jump all over the government failures as indicative of something other than the policies they demand.

So you're now going to insinuate that the IRS is poorly funded, because of conservatives, and tha'ts why they deserve a violation..? Have I got that right?

You have a link showing us the IRS is broke? Not saying they are or aren't but if you're going to make that claim, lets see your intell..

I have the testimony from Friday that the office that decided who to audit had staffing issues. Is this even being debated?

Link:

Part of the issue, he said, was staffing. He said the IRS has “a limited number of people” — 140 to 200 — who work on applications for tax-exempt status of all types. “We do not have enough people right now,” he said.

And Link

Why were IRS staff looking for a shortcut? Because their workload had mushroomed. Applications for C4 status rose from 1,735 in 2010 to 3,357 last year. Meanwhile, budget cuts had reduced the staffing of the Cincinnati office processing the applications.

 

[tommyboy]

Whether you like the tea party or not you should be alarmed that the IRS has been engaged in partisan politics. This is the same organization that will soon be running health care.This is not the proper role of the IRS

Has new news broke?

>Drummer, it's the intent of these actions that is troubling.. You brush it off since it didn't change the election which just leaves the door open for it to happen

again.

The intent of a reduced staffed department trying to find a way to deal with an increased work load is troubling?

This had nothing to do with staffing. There are letters from 4 different offices including the main office in D.C. And the profiling started in 2010 when the number of applications actually DROPPED from the previous year. Finally, let's not forget that there has already been testimony that no keywords to identify liberal groups were used. Seems like if they were trying to reduce workload, they would have done all they could to identify all political groups, not just one side. It also seems like instituting something that required them to send dozens of extra followup letters per case and request huge volumes of ridiculous information like the content of people's prayers, family members' beliefs, etc. would be the opposite of cutting workload. If they had simply treated the cases like they were supposed to without asking illegal questions, they would have had a MUCH easier workload than what they created.

The "they were understaffed so the GOP is to blame" is a load of garbage and completely ridiculous. Stop repeating it.

I apologize for allowing the facts we have via Friday's testimony under oath get in the way of your good story.

you actually believe Steven Miller? lol. He already corrected himself this week. But yes, your "facts" are quite compelling.

 

[tommyboy]

your 1st link lists 3, yes count them, three examples, vs oh say 500 conservative groups

Total liberal nonprofit status denied - 1

Total conservative nonprofit status denied - 0

FOAMING!!

thats just an outright lie. Nice try though.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

your 1st link lists 3, yes count them, three examples, vs oh say 500 conservative groups

Link

Were conservative groups the only ones given special scrutiny? No. Of 298 applications given special attention, only 96 had those three terms in their names. The IG doesn’t characterize the other 202.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

you actually believe Steven Miller? lol. He already corrected himself this week. But yes, your "facts" are quite compelling.

As opposed to your posts?

 

[Mr Two Cents]

It is amazing that some of you actually defend and make excues for this crap and Fast and Furious and Benghazi and the AP and Foxnews and Obamacare back room deals.

This is truly the most corrupt and dishonest administration ever but you still love him and think he is doing a good job.

#### on the economy alone he has screwed this countrys future, hell that is not even worth mentioning anymore with all this around him.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

With them being audited after claiming tax exempt status, don't you think that information would be out by now if they were breaking the rules or doing something immoral?

So, since these folks were profiled, lets play devils advocate and pretend they deserved it, regardless of having no evidence of wrong doing.. To hell with there rights.. Right?

Link

Were most of these applicants innocent? Not necessarily. The IG also says that nearly 70% of the applications selected for special scrutiny actually did show indications of “significant” political activity that might have invalidated their C4 status.

 

[Mr Two Cents]

"Either Obama knew about the IRS scandal and he should be impeached…or he knew nothing about it, and he should resign for incompetence"

 

[BigSteelThrill]

It is amazing that some of you actually defend and make excues for this crap and Fast and Furious and Benghazi and the AP and Foxnews and Obamacare back room deals.

This is truly the most corrupt and dishonest administration ever but you still love him and think he is doing a good job.

#### on the economy alone he has screwed this countrys future, hell that is not even worth mentioning anymore with all this around him.

Its AMAZING that conservatives make scandals on everything and anything in a democratic white house since Clinton took office.

Remember Libya? It was a scandal to help and it was a scandal to not help.

 

[Mr Two Cents]

Sharyl Attkisson, the Emmy-award winning CBS News investigative reporter, says that her personal and work computers have been compromised and are under investigation.

 

[Mr Two Cents]

After IRS, Benghazi scandals, public trust shifts to GOP

 

[otello]

Lois Lane taking the 5th.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/21/18403138-irs-official-to-invoke-fifth-amendment-at-hearing?lite

 

[BigSteelThrill]

After IRS, Benghazi scandals, public trust shifts to GOP

Obamas approval rating has gone up... because people understand the conservatives scandals for what they are.

 

[Mr Two Cents]

Majority thinks White House knew about IRS actions

 

[tommyboy]

i'm sure this is no big deal and will just blow over.

 

[Mr Two Cents]

After IRS, Benghazi scandals, public trust shifts to GOP

Obamas approval rating has gone up... because people understand the conservatives scandals for what they are.

The former U.S. Attorney for Arizona could be disbarred, after an investigation found he lied to the Justice Department about his role in trying to discredit the federal whistle-blower who exposed the botched gun-running scheme known as Fast and Furious.

An Office of Inspector General report showed that Dennis Burke -- the former chief of staff for Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano appointed as U.S. Attorney for Arizona by President Obama in September 2009 -- lied when asked if he leaked sensitive documents to the press meant to undermine the credibility of ATF whistle-blower John Dodson.

 

[tommyboy]

It is amazing that some of you actually defend and make excues for this crap and Fast and Furious and Benghazi and the AP and Foxnews and Obamacare back room deals.

This is truly the most corrupt and dishonest administration ever but you still love him and think he is doing a good job.

#### on the economy alone he has screwed this countrys future, hell that is not even worth mentioning anymore with all this around him.

Its AMAZING that conservatives make scandals on everything and anything in a democratic white house since Clinton took office.

Remember Libya? It was a scandal to help and it was a scandal to not help.

why would the president of the united states apologize the american people and fire someone, then claim that it was "outrageous and unacceptable" if it wasn't some type of scandal in and of itself? You lost me there. conservatives don't need to "make" this one.

 

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why would the president of the united states apologize the american people and fire someone, then claim that it was "outrageous and unacceptable" if it wasn't some type of scandal in and of itself? You lost me there. conservatives don't need to "make" this one.

Why can't that be enough? At least until evidence starts making the current explanations no longer the best explanation?

(And to be clear when I say "best explanation" I mean the simplest explanation that fits the available information. Normally this is the correct explanation but of course there are always exceptions to prove this rule. And this may turn out to be one of those exceptional cases, but nothing based only on the current info suggests it needs to be one.)