Is it Tashard Choice Time? (1 Viewer)

[todisco1]

Felix looks pretty good right now, I could see a solid Jones/Choice backfield next year, with Jones getting the bulk of the touches.

 

[kencav]

I really thought this would be Felix' year, but 2011 is going to be big for him. Why?They're not going to take a RB high in the draft & there's a slim-to-none chance Barber will be back (& Slim left town). It's Felix & Choice. It's obvious Felix will be their feature back next year with Choice backing him up. In fact, Felix is basically their feature back now. With Romo back, a more experienced Bryant, & an improved OL, this looks to be a monster offense. Felix will be a big part of that. RBs often have to mature into a bigger, more expanded role, as the coaching staff gets more confidence in them. I expect Felix to not only be their 3rd down back, but eventually be their GL back, as well.If he makes it through this season fairly unscathed, then it's fair to say he's put to rest some of the concerns about his durability. Felix is primed for a big-time breakout season in 2011, IMO. I'm going to target him this offseason in trades.

Maybe the way they are limiting his touches/exposure in redzone has something to do with his durability?

 

[BigDave]

Barber shouldn't be there so Felix will be the primary ball carrier with choice backing him up and probably stealing some goaline carries.

Barber needs to ride the pine for awhile and nurse his attitude. Openly defying the new head coach's jacket/tie policy was a wake up call for Jerry.

Also, Barber needs to stop F ing dancing whenever he makes a decent carry. I'm sick of these guys who dance and prance for the crowd. THATS WHAT YOU GET PAID FOR IDIOT! Act like you've done it before!

I personally believe Felix and Choice would be a fine backfield next year. Draft a mid round RB who's a banger like Barber for a lot less money and a lot less attitude!

 

[switz]

Maybe the way they are limiting his touches/exposure in redzone has something to do with his durability?

Or maybe they just wanted to have an excuse to give Barber carries.

 

[steelwind]

"Marion Barber (calf) will most likely be out two weeks, according to Bryan Broaddus of ESPN Dallas.

The Cowboys should have sat Barber down for performance reasons long ago, so this finally takes them off the hook. And it also will finally free Tashard Choice, who acted as the goal-line back after Barber went down on Thanksgiving. Look for Felix Jones' role to remain the same, with Choice picking up Barber's snaps."

 

[onehung]

Choice headed for bigger role per Rotoworld

Tashard Choice practiced Wednesday as if he's going to be a bigger part of the Cowboys' offense in Week 13.

It seems obvious with Marion Barber (calf) out, but we've been given the impression that Choice's role would expand previously and it didn't happen. In Wednesday's workout, Choice was pulled off the punt team and worked with the offense. He should get 10-14 touches against the Colts Sunday. Dec. 1 - 1:32 pm et

 

[ourmanflint]

15 for 100 would be about 6.25 YPC, Choice is not that good, and doesn't have the road grinding OL in front of him like he did 2 years ago in his brief stint when Barber and Jones were out. 1) He's had a number of attempts this year, and it's obvious that he's not capable of putting up those numbers. 2) Choice has never averaged 6 YPC with at least 10 carries in a game, and he's never rushed for 100 yards in a game in his career, despite having games with 22, 18, and 17 carries.

As for the "take away Felix 100 yard game comment", if you do, Felix still has 83 carries for 295 yards, which is 3.6 YPC on the season. Felix just averaged 4.6 YPC versus Detroit, with some of his best runs coming later in the game after a painful hip injury. Choice is averaging only 2.8 YPC on the season, and only managed 3.5 versus Detroit, on just a few carries.

So, even taking away Felix best running game of the season, when you compare apples to apples, Felix is averaging about a yard more per carry than Choice. Felix is quite clearly the best RB on the team, and to think Choice could come in and do the same or better is just wishful thinking.

My first reply was unnecessarily sarcastic for which I apologize. I'll work on my board etiquette.

1) He's had 14 carries all year. That's barely over 1 carry/gm. You can see his capabilities from that?2) No but nonetheless he's had some very nice games when given the chance.

In 2009 he had:

- 18/82/1 rushing and 4/36 receiving

- 8/92/1 rushing

- another game with 80 total yards in 19 touches

The rest of the year he saw fairly limited action until the wildcard game where he put up 14/42/1.

In 2008, in his "brief stint" he had:

- 11/57 rushing

- 23/88 rushing and 5/78 receiving

- 9/91/1 rushing and 4/52 receiving

- 17/90/1 rushing and 7/25 receiving

- he finished the year with a 13/56 in the closing debacle at Philly where they lost 44-6

Those are stud Ray Rice type games Switz. Think you're putting a little too much emphasis on ypc.

The Cowboys have been so dysfunctional this year how can you trust any decision by Jerry or the coaching staff on personnel in terms of evaluating Choice's talent and ability? This guy can get it done if you give him the damn ball. That, of course, assumes the center isn't snapping it over the QB's head every other play.

 

[switz]

15 for 100 would be about 6.25 YPC, Choice is not that good, and doesn't have the road grinding OL in front of him like he did 2 years ago in his brief stint when Barber and Jones were out. 1) He's had a number of attempts this year, and it's obvious that he's not capable of putting up those numbers. 2) Choice has never averaged 6 YPC with at least 10 carries in a game, and he's never rushed for 100 yards in a game in his career, despite having games with 22, 18, and 17 carries.

As for the "take away Felix 100 yard game comment", if you do, Felix still has 83 carries for 295 yards, which is 3.6 YPC on the season. Felix just averaged 4.6 YPC versus Detroit, with some of his best runs coming later in the game after a painful hip injury. Choice is averaging only 2.8 YPC on the season, and only managed 3.5 versus Detroit, on just a few carries.

So, even taking away Felix best running game of the season, when you compare apples to apples, Felix is averaging about a yard more per carry than Choice. Felix is quite clearly the best RB on the team, and to think Choice could come in and do the same or better is just wishful thinking.

My first reply was unnecessarily sarcastic for which I apologize. I'll work on my board etiquette.

1) He's had 14 carries all year. That's barely over 1 carry/gm. You can see his capabilities from that?2) No but nonetheless he's had some very nice games when given the chance.

In 2009 he had:

- 18/82/1 rushing and 4/36 receiving

- 8/92/1 rushing

- another game with 80 total yards in 19 touches

The rest of the year he saw fairly limited action until the wildcard game where he put up 14/42/1.

In 2008, in his "brief stint" he had:

- 11/57 rushing

- 23/88 rushing and 5/78 receiving

- 9/91/1 rushing and 4/52 receiving

- 17/90/1 rushing and 7/25 receiving

- he finished the year with a 13/56 in the closing debacle at Philly where they lost 44-6

Those are stud Ray Rice type games Switz. Think you're putting a little too much emphasis on ypc.

The Cowboys have been so dysfunctional this year how can you trust any decision by Jerry or the coaching staff on personnel in terms of evaluating Choice's talent and ability? This guy can get it done if you give him the damn ball. That, of course, assumes the center isn't snapping it over the QB's head every other play.

None of that indicates he could run 15 times for 100 yards, which was the claim I was replying to.The numbers from two years ago were behind a much better line, and behind this years line he hasn't looked nearly as good, regardless of the small sample size.

 

[the_taint]

Per CBS Sportsline:

Dallas Cowboys third-string running back Tashard Choice has spent most of the season wondering why he wasn't playing more. Now that he's likely headed toward his most time yet Week 13 against the Colts, he's gotten some answers and they weren't what he was hoping to hear. Team owner Jerry Jones said Choice's reduced role in the offense -- 14 carries in 11 games -- stems from his poor performance on punt and kickoff units. "Your third back has to be a real contributor on special teams and he's not," Jones said on his weekly radio show. "That really handicaps him." Interim coach Jason Garrett added that Choice simply isn't better than the two guys ahead of him, Felix Jones and Marion Barber. Now Barber is hurt, dealing with a calf injury that kept him out of practice Monday and Wednesday. So Choice is practicing more and likely to be part of a rotation with Jones on Sunday in Indianapolis.

(Updated 12/01/2010).

Analysis

Choice came into this season hoping to be part of a three-man rotation at running back. It sets up great on paper, with Barber a basher, Jones a slasher and Choice capable of playing either style. He proved it as a rookie in 2008. His first career start came against a ferocious Pittsburgh defense and he had the best performance of any running back against those Steelers, running for 88 yards and gaining another 78 as a receiver. Over his first two years, he averaged 5.3 yards per carry and 8.8 yards per catch. The Cowboys showed they valued him by turning down trade offers. Choice said Monday he hadn't asked his bosses for an explanation about his reduced role "because it will make me mad." He guessed it mostly had to do with Barber and Jones. On Wednesday, after hearing the comments from Jones and Garrett, Choice said, "It's best for me not to say anything. I need to be quiet for now." If Choice is going to play with a chip on his shoulder, then that's great motivation. Still, he is nothing more than a low-end Fantasy start heading into Week 13.

 

[ourmanflint]

15 for 100 would be about 6.25 YPC, Choice is not that good, and doesn't have the road grinding OL in front of him like he did 2 years ago in his brief stint when Barber and Jones were out. 1) He's had a number of attempts this year, and it's obvious that he's not capable of putting up those numbers. 2) Choice has never averaged 6 YPC with at least 10 carries in a game, and he's never rushed for 100 yards in a game in his career, despite having games with 22, 18, and 17 carries.

As for the "take away Felix 100 yard game comment", if you do, Felix still has 83 carries for 295 yards, which is 3.6 YPC on the season. Felix just averaged 4.6 YPC versus Detroit, with some of his best runs coming later in the game after a painful hip injury. Choice is averaging only 2.8 YPC on the season, and only managed 3.5 versus Detroit, on just a few carries.

So, even taking away Felix best running game of the season, when you compare apples to apples, Felix is averaging about a yard more per carry than Choice. Felix is quite clearly the best RB on the team, and to think Choice could come in and do the same or better is just wishful thinking.

My first reply was unnecessarily sarcastic for which I apologize. I'll work on my board etiquette.

1) He's had 14 carries all year. That's barely over 1 carry/gm. You can see his capabilities from that?2) No but nonetheless he's had some very nice games when given the chance.

In 2009 he had:

- 18/82/1 rushing and 4/36 receiving

- 8/92/1 rushing

- another game with 80 total yards in 19 touches

The rest of the year he saw fairly limited action until the wildcard game where he put up 14/42/1.

In 2008, in his "brief stint" he had:

- 11/57 rushing

- 23/88 rushing and 5/78 receiving

- 9/91/1 rushing and 4/52 receiving

- 17/90/1 rushing and 7/25 receiving

- he finished the year with a 13/56 in the closing debacle at Philly where they lost 44-6

Those are stud Ray Rice type games Switz. Think you're putting a little too much emphasis on ypc.

The Cowboys have been so dysfunctional this year how can you trust any decision by Jerry or the coaching staff on personnel in terms of evaluating Choice's talent and ability? This guy can get it done if you give him the damn ball. That, of course, assumes the center isn't snapping it over the QB's head every other play.

None of that indicates he could run 15 times for 100 yards, which was the claim I was replying to.The numbers from two years ago were behind a much better line, and behind this years line he hasn't looked nearly as good, regardless of the small sample size.

Forget the 15 for 100 Switz. Who cares? I'm not even arguing that. The guy can put up serious numbers given the touches and a coherent offense. No the line isn't playing as good but its the same personnel minus Flo. They seemed to take a step back against a good Saints defense but their schedule week 15 and 16 is cake. They could put some numbers on Indy and Philly as well. It isn't a given but it's way possible. Rides on game plan and want to. Choice certainly brings the want to. We'll see about the rest.You CAN NOT make any kind of statement about Choice based on his touches this year. Please don't even go there. Talk about the line, talk about the play calling fine. But please don't rag on Choice based on 14 carries in 12 games.

 

[ourmanflint]

Per CBS Sportslineallas Cowboys third-string running back Tashard Choice has spent most of the season wondering why he wasn't playing more. Now that he's likely headed toward his most time yet Week 13 against the Colts, he's gotten some answers and they weren't what he was hoping to hear. Team owner Jerry Jones said Choice's reduced role in the offense -- 14 carries in 11 games -- stems from his poor performance on punt and kickoff units. "Your third back has to be a real contributor on special teams and he's not," Jones said on his weekly radio show. "That really handicaps him." Interim coach Jason Garrett added that Choice simply isn't better than the two guys ahead of him, Felix Jones and Marion Barber. Now Barber is hurt, dealing with a calf injury that kept him out of practice Monday and Wednesday. So Choice is practicing more and likely to be part of a rotation with Jones on Sunday in Indianapolis.(Updated 12/01/2010).AnalysisChoice came into this season hoping to be part of a three-man rotation at running back. It sets up great on paper, with Barber a basher, Jones a slasher and Choice capable of playing either style. He proved it as a rookie in 2008. His first career start came against a ferocious Pittsburgh defense and he had the best performance of any running back against those Steelers, running for 88 yards and gaining another 78 as a receiver. Over his first two years, he averaged 5.3 yards per carry and 8.8 yards per catch. The Cowboys showed they valued him by turning down trade offers. Choice said Monday he hadn't asked his bosses for an explanation about his reduced role "because it will make me mad." He guessed it mostly had to do with Barber and Jones. On Wednesday, after hearing the comments from Jones and Garrett, Choice said, "It's best for me not to say anything. I need to be quiet for now." If Choice is going to play with a chip on his shoulder, then that's great motivation. Still, he is nothing more than a low-end Fantasy start heading into Week 13.

I really hope this is Jones and Garrett trying to motivate. Either way this is ugly. Choice not better than Barber? Can't really understand that statement.

 

[SaintLouisCardinals]

Per CBS Sportsline:

Dallas Cowboys third-string running back Tashard Choice has spent most of the season wondering why he wasn't playing more. Now that he's likely headed toward his most time yet Week 13 against the Colts, he's gotten some answers and they weren't what he was hoping to hear. Team owner Jerry Jones said Choice's reduced role in the offense -- 14 carries in 11 games -- stems from his poor performance on punt and kickoff units. "Your third back has to be a real contributor on special teams and he's not," Jones said on his weekly radio show. "That really handicaps him." Interim coach Jason Garrett added that Choice simply isn't better than the two guys ahead of him, Felix Jones and Marion Barber. Now Barber is hurt, dealing with a calf injury that kept him out of practice Monday and Wednesday. So Choice is practicing more and likely to be part of a rotation with Jones on Sunday in Indianapolis.

(Updated 12/01/2010).

Analysis

Choice came into this season hoping to be part of a three-man rotation at running back. It sets up great on paper, with Barber a basher, Jones a slasher and Choice capable of playing either style. He proved it as a rookie in 2008. His first career start came against a ferocious Pittsburgh defense and he had the best performance of any running back against those Steelers, running for 88 yards and gaining another 78 as a receiver. Over his first two years, he averaged 5.3 yards per carry and 8.8 yards per catch. The Cowboys showed they valued him by turning down trade offers. Choice said Monday he hadn't asked his bosses for an explanation about his reduced role "because it will make me mad." He guessed it mostly had to do with Barber and Jones. On Wednesday, after hearing the comments from Jones and Garrett, Choice said, "It's best for me not to say anything. I need to be quiet for now." If Choice is going to play with a chip on his shoulder, then that's great motivation. Still, he is nothing more than a low-end Fantasy start heading into Week 13.

I really hope this is Jones and Garrett trying to motivate. Either way this is ugly. Choice not better than Barber? Can't really understand that statement.

Maybe 4 years ago when Barber was scoring double digit TD's, and Choice was at Georgia Tech.

 

[Chaka]

Choice getting a lot of carries and producing. Seems to be in during crunch time and appears to have a hammer lock on short yardage carries over Felix.

 

[ourmanflint]

15 for 100 would be about 6.25 YPC, Choice is not that good, and doesn't have the road grinding OL in front of him like he did 2 years ago in his brief stint when Barber and Jones were out. 1) He's had a number of attempts this year, and it's obvious that he's not capable of putting up those numbers. 2) Choice has never averaged 6 YPC with at least 10 carries in a game, and he's never rushed for 100 yards in a game in his career, despite having games with 22, 18, and 17 carries.

As for the "take away Felix 100 yard game comment", if you do, Felix still has 83 carries for 295 yards, which is 3.6 YPC on the season. Felix just averaged 4.6 YPC versus Detroit, with some of his best runs coming later in the game after a painful hip injury. Choice is averaging only 2.8 YPC on the season, and only managed 3.5 versus Detroit, on just a few carries.

So, even taking away Felix best running game of the season, when you compare apples to apples, Felix is averaging about a yard more per carry than Choice. Felix is quite clearly the best RB on the team, and to think Choice could come in and do the same or better is just wishful thinking.

My first reply was unnecessarily sarcastic for which I apologize. I'll work on my board etiquette.

1) He's had 14 carries all year. That's barely over 1 carry/gm. You can see his capabilities from that?2) No but nonetheless he's had some very nice games when given the chance.

In 2009 he had:

- 18/82/1 rushing and 4/36 receiving

- 8/92/1 rushing

- another game with 80 total yards in 19 touches

The rest of the year he saw fairly limited action until the wildcard game where he put up 14/42/1.

In 2008, in his "brief stint" he had:

- 11/57 rushing

- 23/88 rushing and 5/78 receiving

- 9/91/1 rushing and 4/52 receiving

- 17/90/1 rushing and 7/25 receiving

- he finished the year with a 13/56 in the closing debacle at Philly where they lost 44-6

Those are stud Ray Rice type games Switz. Think you're putting a little too much emphasis on ypc.

The Cowboys have been so dysfunctional this year how can you trust any decision by Jerry or the coaching staff on personnel in terms of evaluating Choice's talent and ability? This guy can get it done if you give him the damn ball. That, of course, assumes the center isn't snapping it over the QB's head every other play.

None of that indicates he could run 15 times for 100 yards, which was the claim I was replying to.The numbers from two years ago were behind a much better line, and behind this years line he hasn't looked nearly as good, regardless of the small sample size.

19/100/1 close enough for you?

 

[dickey moe]

He's the best running back the Cowboys have right now.

 

[fruity pebbles]

15 for 100 would be about 6.25 YPC, Choice is not that good, and doesn't have the road grinding OL in front of him like he did 2 years ago in his brief stint when Barber and Jones were out. 1) He's had a number of attempts this year, and it's obvious that he's not capable of putting up those numbers. 2) Choice has never averaged 6 YPC with at least 10 carries in a game, and he's never rushed for 100 yards in a game in his career, despite having games with 22, 18, and 17 carries.

As for the "take away Felix 100 yard game comment", if you do, Felix still has 83 carries for 295 yards, which is 3.6 YPC on the season. Felix just averaged 4.6 YPC versus Detroit, with some of his best runs coming later in the game after a painful hip injury. Choice is averaging only 2.8 YPC on the season, and only managed 3.5 versus Detroit, on just a few carries.

So, even taking away Felix best running game of the season, when you compare apples to apples, Felix is averaging about a yard more per carry than Choice. Felix is quite clearly the best RB on the team, and to think Choice could come in and do the same or better is just wishful thinking.

My first reply was unnecessarily sarcastic for which I apologize. I'll work on my board etiquette.

1) He's had 14 carries all year. That's barely over 1 carry/gm. You can see his capabilities from that?2) No but nonetheless he's had some very nice games when given the chance.

In 2009 he had:

- 18/82/1 rushing and 4/36 receiving

- 8/92/1 rushing

- another game with 80 total yards in 19 touches

The rest of the year he saw fairly limited action until the wildcard game where he put up 14/42/1.

In 2008, in his "brief stint" he had:

- 11/57 rushing

- 23/88 rushing and 5/78 receiving

- 9/91/1 rushing and 4/52 receiving

- 17/90/1 rushing and 7/25 receiving

- he finished the year with a 13/56 in the closing debacle at Philly where they lost 44-6

Those are stud Ray Rice type games Switz. Think you're putting a little too much emphasis on ypc.

The Cowboys have been so dysfunctional this year how can you trust any decision by Jerry or the coaching staff on personnel in terms of evaluating Choice's talent and ability? This guy can get it done if you give him the damn ball. That, of course, assumes the center isn't snapping it over the QB's head every other play.

None of that indicates he could run 15 times for 100 yards, which was the claim I was replying to.The numbers from two years ago were behind a much better line, and behind this years line he hasn't looked nearly as good, regardless of the small sample size.

19/100/1 close enough for you?

No. Felixs 22/83 is much better

 

[switz]

None of that indicates he could run 15 times for 100 yards, which was the claim I was replying to.The numbers from two years ago were behind a much better line, and behind this years line he hasn't looked nearly as good, regardless of the small sample size.

19/100/1 close enough for you?

Well he was right on one number. Choice played well, far better than Barber has all season long. I don't think he's better than Jones, but I know this board is full of Jones haters, so whatever.

 

[cvnpoka]

man, wonder how many ppl woulda won if they played choice over felix. this has the appearance of a tjones vs jamaal charles situation, ie the worse back gets too many carries.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

15 for 100 would be about 6.25 YPC, Choice is not that good, and doesn't have the road grinding OL in front of him like he did 2 years ago in his brief stint when Barber and Jones were out. 1) He's had a number of attempts this year, and it's obvious that he's not capable of putting up those numbers. 2) Choice has never averaged 6 YPC with at least 10 carries in a game, and he's never rushed for 100 yards in a game in his career, despite having games with 22, 18, and 17 carries.

As for the "take away Felix 100 yard game comment", if you do, Felix still has 83 carries for 295 yards, which is 3.6 YPC on the season. Felix just averaged 4.6 YPC versus Detroit, with some of his best runs coming later in the game after a painful hip injury. Choice is averaging only 2.8 YPC on the season, and only managed 3.5 versus Detroit, on just a few carries.

So, even taking away Felix best running game of the season, when you compare apples to apples, Felix is averaging about a yard more per carry than Choice. Felix is quite clearly the best RB on the team, and to think Choice could come in and do the same or better is just wishful thinking.

My first reply was unnecessarily sarcastic for which I apologize. I'll work on my board etiquette.

1) He's had 14 carries all year. That's barely over 1 carry/gm. You can see his capabilities from that?2) No but nonetheless he's had some very nice games when given the chance.

In 2009 he had:

- 18/82/1 rushing and 4/36 receiving

- 8/92/1 rushing

- another game with 80 total yards in 19 touches

The rest of the year he saw fairly limited action until the wildcard game where he put up 14/42/1.

In 2008, in his "brief stint" he had:

- 11/57 rushing

- 23/88 rushing and 5/78 receiving

- 9/91/1 rushing and 4/52 receiving

- 17/90/1 rushing and 7/25 receiving

- he finished the year with a 13/56 in the closing debacle at Philly where they lost 44-6

Those are stud Ray Rice type games Switz. Think you're putting a little too much emphasis on ypc.

The Cowboys have been so dysfunctional this year how can you trust any decision by Jerry or the coaching staff on personnel in terms of evaluating Choice's talent and ability? This guy can get it done if you give him the damn ball. That, of course, assumes the center isn't snapping it over the QB's head every other play.

None of that indicates he could run 15 times for 100 yards, which was the claim I was replying to.The numbers from two years ago were behind a much better line, and behind this years line he hasn't looked nearly as good, regardless of the small sample size.

T. Choice	19	100	1	26

 

[fruity pebbles]

None of that indicates he could run 15 times for 100 yards, which was the claim I was replying to.The numbers from two years ago were behind a much better line, and behind this years line he hasn't looked nearly as good, regardless of the small sample size.

19/100/1 close enough for you?

Well he was right on one number. Choice played well, far better than Barber has all season long. I don't think he's better than Jones, but I know this board is full of Jones haters, so whatever.

Crazy enough, many arent haters or fanboys and just watch the game and go by what they see.

 

[Gopher State]

None of that indicates he could run 15 times for 100 yards, which was the claim I was replying to.The numbers from two years ago were behind a much better line, and behind this years line he hasn't looked nearly as good, regardless of the small sample size.

19/100/1 close enough for you?

Well he was right on one number. Choice played well, far better than Barber has all season long. I don't think he's better than Jones, but I know this board is full of Jones haters, so whatever.

 

[Football Jones]

Barber is as good as gone. Choice simply isn't as talented as Felix, but he does get what's there & is a pretty darned good RB.

That said, this shows you what kind of potential Felix has in that offense as their lead back. With Romo & Bryant healthy, along with an improved OL, the sky is the limit. Felix could start having monster production starting in 2011, especially in PPR leagues.

 

[GoBirds]

Barber is as good as gone. Choice simply isn't as talented as Felix, but he does get what's there & is a pretty darned good RB.That said, this shows you what kind of potential Felix has in that offense as their lead back. With Romo & Bryant healthy, along with an improved OL, the sky is the limit. Felix could start having monster production starting in 2011, especially in PPR leagues.

Isn't that what everyone said about Felix this year? Don't see what's so great about him.

 

[ROBOPUNTER]

Barber is as good as gone. Choice simply isn't as talented as Felix, but he does get what's there & is a pretty darned good RB.That said, this shows you what kind of potential Felix has in that offense as their lead back. With Romo & Bryant healthy, along with an improved OL, the sky is the limit. Felix could start having monster production starting in 2011, especially in PPR leagues.

Isn't that what everyone said about Felix this year? Don't see what's so great about him.

What's great about Felix is his potential. We will always hear about how great he can be, and it will always happen next year. So get on board or not, but don't worry about missing the Felix Jones hype train, because it'll never leave the station.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Barber is as good as gone. Choice simply isn't as talented as Felix, but he does get what's there & is a pretty darned good RB.That said, this shows you what kind of potential Felix has in that offense as their lead back. With Romo & Bryant healthy, along with an improved OL, the sky is the limit. Felix could start having monster production starting in 2011, especially in PPR leagues.

There were some huge running lanes out there today for both backs.

 

[FavreCo]

Touch Felix Jones and he will fall down. He's in there because he's an Ark. alum.

 

[shadyridr]

So is Choice the play next week?

 

[Balco]

I own both Choice and Jones in a dynasty. What is Choice's contract situation? He can definitely be a workhorse feature back for a team. Is he a restricted free agent next year? Alot of teams can use a guy like him.

 

[FavreCo]

Choice isn't going anywhere. Barber probably is.

 

[Balco]

Choice isn't going anywhere. Barber probably is.

No question Barber gets cut next year. Choice is better, and more affordable. But if he is a RFA, some team might make him a pretty good offer that the Cowboys don't match.

 

[Chaka]

Touch Felix Jones and he will fall down. He's in there because he's an Ark. alum.

I am not sure I agree with that. He's not a great short yardage guy but he seemed pretty effective today. I think this sequence must have been frustrating for Felix owners. After TCs big run got them inside the red zone Felix came in and was effective getting the Cowboys a first down at the one. I was surprised that they didn't give him a shot from the one. TC got four cracks and failed.I wonder if they will at least consider giving Felix a crack at some short yardage plays.

1-10-IND12 (7:08) (Run formation) F.Jones left guard to IND 9 for 3 yards (P.Angerer).2-7-IND9 (6:33) (Run formation) F.Jones up the middle to IND 3 for 6 yards (P.Angerer).3-1-IND3 (5:54) (Run formation) F.Jones up the middle to IND 1 for 2 yards (P.Angerer, G.Brackett).1-1-IND1 (5:09) (Run formation) T.Choice right tackle to IND 1 for no gain (G.Brackett).2-1-IND1 (4:27) (Run formation) J.Kitna pass incomplete short left to M.Austin (K.Dawson).3-1-IND1 (4:23) (Run formation) T.Choice left guard to IND 1 for no gain (E.Foster, P.Angerer).4-1-IND1 (3:36) (Field Goal formation) PENALTY on DAL-D.Buehler, Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at IND 1 - No Play.4-6-IND6 (3:34) D.Buehler 24 yard field goal is GOOD, NULLIFIED by Penalty, Center-L.Ladouceur, Holder-M.McBriar. PENALTY on IND-E.Foster, Leverage, 3 yards, enforced at IND 6 - No Play.1-3-IND3 (3:30) (Run formation) T.Choice right tackle to IND 2 for 1 yard (J.Lacey).2-2-IND2 (2:48) (Run formation) T.Choice left end to IND 2 for no gain (D.Muir).3-2-IND2 (2:43) (Shotgun) J.Kitna pass short left to J.Witten for 2 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

 

[Chaka]

Barber is as good as gone. Choice simply isn't as talented as Felix, but he does get what's there & is a pretty darned good RB.That said, this shows you what kind of potential Felix has in that offense as their lead back. With Romo & Bryant healthy, along with an improved OL, the sky is the limit. Felix could start having monster production starting in 2011, especially in PPR leagues.

Felix/TC timeshare.Book it.

 

[Ariakis]

From a fantasy perspective it may be better for Choice if someone steals him as he can sustain 20+ carries. In Dallas he'll always be limited but if the offense is solid it can support him as a safe RB2 on 12-20 touches.

 

[LOCO]

i hope barber takes his time rehabbing his calf. last thing we need is a 3 head monster rbbc....

 

[reprisal]

Touch Felix Jones and he will fall down. He's in there because he's an Ark. alum.

I am not sure I agree with that. He's not a great short yardage guy but he seemed pretty effective today. I think this sequence must have been frustrating for Felix owners. After TCs big run got them inside the red zone Felix came in and was effective getting the Cowboys a first down at the one. I was surprised that they didn't give him a shot from the one. TC got four cracks and failed.I wonder if they will at least consider giving Felix a crack at some short yardage plays.

1-10-IND12 (7:08) (Run formation) F.Jones left guard to IND 9 for 3 yards (P.Angerer).2-7-IND9 (6:33) (Run formation) F.Jones up the middle to IND 3 for 6 yards (P.Angerer).3-1-IND3 (5:54) (Run formation) F.Jones up the middle to IND 1 for 2 yards (P.Angerer, G.Brackett).1-1-IND1 (5:09) (Run formation) T.Choice right tackle to IND 1 for no gain (G.Brackett).2-1-IND1 (4:27) (Run formation) J.Kitna pass incomplete short left to M.Austin (K.Dawson).3-1-IND1 (4:23) (Run formation) T.Choice left guard to IND 1 for no gain (E.Foster, P.Angerer).4-1-IND1 (3:36) (Field Goal formation) PENALTY on DAL-D.Buehler, Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at IND 1 - No Play.4-6-IND6 (3:34) D.Buehler 24 yard field goal is GOOD, NULLIFIED by Penalty, Center-L.Ladouceur, Holder-M.McBriar. PENALTY on IND-E.Foster, Leverage, 3 yards, enforced at IND 6 - No Play.1-3-IND3 (3:30) (Run formation) T.Choice right tackle to IND 2 for 1 yard (J.Lacey).2-2-IND2 (2:48) (Run formation) T.Choice left end to IND 2 for no gain (D.Muir).3-2-IND2 (2:43) (Shotgun) J.Kitna pass short left to J.Witten for 2 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

For the most part Choice looked better in short yardage today than Felix. I was a bit surprised they didnt give Felix a shot during that sequence. That being said TC maybe should have converted the 1st down carry, but the next 3 were hopeless. The line got completely blown up, neither back was going to convert those carries.

 

[steelwind]

I actually have both Felix and Choice on my team. Originally I thought Choice was the handcuff to Felix who is in my flex. Now I have no idea who to play. Felix isn't even getting goaline carries. What are your thoughts?

Felix = need to start in ppr leagues?

Choice = need to start in standard leagues?

 

[ROBOPUNTER]

Choice isn't going anywhere. Barber probably is.

No question Barber gets cut next year. Choice is better, and more affordable. But if he is a RFA, some team might make him a pretty good offer that the Cowboys don't match.

I don't think that would happen, if the RFA rules are anything like they are now. The Cowboys would tag him with a first, which is only 2 mil. No one is going to give a first for a 27 yo unproven RB.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I thought Felix looked really good starting the game. This is the first time this year he had a lot of wiggle. He made jukes and moves, and just looked a lot faster.

I have been in love with Choice for two years now. He reminds me of a Emmitt Smith lite. Of the three backs on the roster he has by far the best vision. He follows his blockers and uses them. Felix just puts his head down and runs as fast as humanly possible. Barber just gets hit, repeatedly.

Choice should be the feature back until the line gets shored up. When there are gaping holes, Felix will be able to exploit them for huge gains and long TD's.

 

[Urinal Mint]

If Barber is healthy, he starts next week.

 

[Urinal Mint]

Word on the radio yesterday is that Green Bay attempted to trade for Choice after Grant's injury, and offered a 3rd. Dallas balked and asked for a 2nd, and GB went on their merry way. They obviously value him, but not enough to play him.

 

[killrobotkill]

From Rotoworld:

Owner Jerry Jones suggested after Sunday's 100-yard performance that Tashard Choice has earned a bigger role going forward.

"He's about to earn himself a spot where he doesn't have to make up for his special team shortcomings," Jones said. "As the second back, it's not incumbent on him to play on special teams, so that can change the picture with him as a second back." Regardless of Marion Barber's salary and seniority, the Cowboys have shown lousy evaluation skills in the backfield all season. Jones comments suggests they've finally come to grips with the fact that Choice is simply a more productive player.

 

[switz]

For the most part Choice looked better in short yardage today than Felix.

Not sure how anyone could say that.In total, the Cowboys had 5 downs with 1 yard to go where they ran the ball. Choice had 4 of those carries, he converted on 2. Jones converted on his only attempt. Choice averaged 1.5 YPC on those carries, while Jones got 2 on his only attempt.If you add in attempts with 2 yards to go where they ran, Choice had one more, which he failed to convert.If you add in attempts with 3 yards to go, Choice again had one more which he failed to convert.If you say any run with 3 yards to go is a short yardage attempt, Choice had 6 attempts, got 7 yards, and was successful on 2, that's a 33% rate.Overall, it's first of all difficult to draw any conclusion about Felix when he only had one short yardage attempt, but he was successful on that attempt. Second, it's difficult to say Choice was successful at all, much less that he was better than Jones.This was mined from NFL.com play by play. If I missed any carries, feel free to correct my numbers.

 

[Chaka]

Touch Felix Jones and he will fall down. He's in there because he's an Ark. alum.

I am not sure I agree with that. He's not a great short yardage guy but he seemed pretty effective today. I think this sequence must have been frustrating for Felix owners. After TCs big run got them inside the red zone Felix came in and was effective getting the Cowboys a first down at the one. I was surprised that they didn't give him a shot from the one. TC got four cracks and failed.I wonder if they will at least consider giving Felix a crack at some short yardage plays.

1-10-IND12 (7:08) (Run formation) F.Jones left guard to IND 9 for 3 yards (P.Angerer).2-7-IND9 (6:33) (Run formation) F.Jones up the middle to IND 3 for 6 yards (P.Angerer).3-1-IND3 (5:54) (Run formation) F.Jones up the middle to IND 1 for 2 yards (P.Angerer, G.Brackett).1-1-IND1 (5:09) (Run formation) T.Choice right tackle to IND 1 for no gain (G.Brackett).2-1-IND1 (4:27) (Run formation) J.Kitna pass incomplete short left to M.Austin (K.Dawson).3-1-IND1 (4:23) (Run formation) T.Choice left guard to IND 1 for no gain (E.Foster, P.Angerer).4-1-IND1 (3:36) (Field Goal formation) PENALTY on DAL-D.Buehler, Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at IND 1 - No Play.4-6-IND6 (3:34) D.Buehler 24 yard field goal is GOOD, NULLIFIED by Penalty, Center-L.Ladouceur, Holder-M.McBriar. PENALTY on IND-E.Foster, Leverage, 3 yards, enforced at IND 6 - No Play.1-3-IND3 (3:30) (Run formation) T.Choice right tackle to IND 2 for 1 yard (J.Lacey).2-2-IND2 (2:48) (Run formation) T.Choice left end to IND 2 for no gain (D.Muir).3-2-IND2 (2:43) (Shotgun) J.Kitna pass short left to J.Witten for 2 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

For the most part Choice looked better in short yardage today than Felix. I was a bit surprised they didnt give Felix a shot during that sequence. That being said TC maybe should have converted the 1st down carry, but the next 3 were hopeless. The line got completely blown up, neither back was going to convert those carries.

Choice did not look better yesterday at all in short yardage situations.He might be better in that situation overall but he did not look better yesterday.I just don't get why Dallas doesn't at least consider giving Felix a chance at the stripe. Short yardage is about more than size but for whatever reason the Cowboys seem dead set against using Felix in short yardage.Oh well.

 

[Da Guru]

For the most part Choice looked better in short yardage today than Felix.

Not sure how anyone could say that.In total, the Cowboys had 5 downs with 1 yard to go where they ran the ball. Choice had 4 of those carries, he converted on 2. Jones converted on his only attempt. Choice averaged 1.5 YPC on those carries, while Jones got 2 on his only attempt.If you add in attempts with 2 yards to go where they ran, Choice had one more, which he failed to convert.If you add in attempts with 3 yards to go, Choice again had one more which he failed to convert.If you say any run with 3 yards to go is a short yardage attempt, Choice had 6 attempts, got 7 yards, and was successful on 2, that's a 33% rate.Overall, it's first of all difficult to draw any conclusion about Felix when he only had one short yardage attempt, but he was successful on that attempt. Second, it's difficult to say Choice was successful at all, much less that he was better than Jones.This was mined from NFL.com play by play. If I missed any carries, feel free to correct my numbers.

The Cowboys seem to run the ball better with their regular offense in. When they went into their short yardage package the defense just blew up the o-line on every play.

 

[thehornet]

im so tired of the "felix's massive potential" debate. choice is the most effective runner they have and he should be starting.

 

[raidersfan]

For someone who has Choice on their bench for this season, does he have any value this season as a RB2/3 with how "well" Dallas has been playing lately? I didn't watch the game, and I'm curious about this season only. Obviously if Barber comes back then it's a crapshoot, but with him out, what was the split yesterday besides goal line?

Thanks..

 

[steelwind]

Okay if Barber is out of the picture what are Felix and Choice's value ROS? Both RB2?

 

[Steed]

Word on the radio yesterday is that Green Bay attempted to trade for Choice after Grant's injury, and offered a 3rd. Dallas balked and asked for a 2nd, and GB went on their merry way. They obviously value him, but not enough to play him.

That's kind of a slap in the face offer since Dallas used the 4th pick of the 4th round on him. I'd say he's appreciated quite a bit since then.

 

[yoadrian]

I really thought this would be Felix' year, but 2011 is going to be big for him. Why?They're not going to take a RB high in the draft & there's a slim-to-none chance Barber will be back (& Slim left town). It's Felix & Choice. It's obvious Felix will be their feature back next year with Choice backing him up. In fact, Felix is basically their feature back now. With Romo back, a more experienced Bryant, & an improved OL, this looks to be a monster offense. Felix will be a big part of that. RBs often have to mature into a bigger, more expanded role, as the coaching staff gets more confidence in them. I expect Felix to not only be their 3rd down back, but eventually be their GL back, as well.If he makes it through this season fairly unscathed, then it's fair to say he's put to rest some of the concerns about his durability. Felix is primed for a big-time breakout season in 2011, IMO. I'm going to target him this offseason in trades.

If he can stay healthy that is. This guy's like the second coming of R.Bush and you know what he did this year

 

[Chaka]

I really thought this would be Felix' year, but 2011 is going to be big for him. Why?They're not going to take a RB high in the draft & there's a slim-to-none chance Barber will be back (& Slim left town). It's Felix & Choice. It's obvious Felix will be their feature back next year with Choice backing him up. In fact, Felix is basically their feature back now. With Romo back, a more experienced Bryant, & an improved OL, this looks to be a monster offense. Felix will be a big part of that. RBs often have to mature into a bigger, more expanded role, as the coaching staff gets more confidence in them. I expect Felix to not only be their 3rd down back, but eventually be their GL back, as well.If he makes it through this season fairly unscathed, then it's fair to say he's put to rest some of the concerns about his durability. Felix is primed for a big-time breakout season in 2011, IMO. I'm going to target him this offseason in trades.

2011 = Felix/TC timeshare.Both will be productive on fantasy teams but neither will be a monster.