bueno
In a class by himself
1. There is no draft.2. I have a son serving.3. You are more than a little
4. There are no high rimes or misdemeanors involved - so no basis for an impeachemnt.
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Is it time to impeach the President? (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter LHUCKS
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4. There are no high rimes or misdemeanors involved - so no basis for an impeachemnt.
bueno
In a class by himself
Things weren't so bad when Faisal was king. My wife has pictures of him with her grandfather when the first gas-powered tractors were brought into the country.
bostonfred
Footballguy
I actually knew that. I always use the Faisal connection when we play Six Degrees of Bueno.
bueno
In a class by himself
So, you volunteering to go negotite with these terrorists? Just curious as to how much you like your head attached to your neck.
bueno
In a class by himself
Information? He don't need no stinkin information!
bueno
In a class by himself
For the record, AP reports that a senior U.S. military official said the building was not a consulate and did not have any diplomatic status.
bueno
In a class by himself
It was never up.
bueno
In a class by himself
That's because you rassumptions are wrong. There are a few loonies on the right who hold that view of Islam, but they are in the monority - even on the right.
SlimShady
tommyboy alias
i love the revisionistas on this board that act and talk like this is Bush's war and he started it all by himself. Congress, including a vast majority of the Democrats, voted for this war and continues to fund it. Then they'll play the victim card and claim they were lied to and ignore the fact that the democrats had the same intelligence the president and the rest of congress had. oops, caught in lie #2, so then they switch to the current tactic of mindless carping about useless teethless resolutions against troop increases while at the same time continuing to fund the war and to fund the troop increase. It's the same old empty partisan strategy of talking all tough yet failing to assert any strategy of governance, and in fact continuing to fund the very thing they are whining about. I guarantee you if we had a Democrat president, there would be no anti war rhetoric from congressional dems, they'd be talking tough about the war on terror. In fact, I hope a Dem gets elected in 2008 just so I can see these hypocrites be quiet please when its their turn to lead. Then the repubs can sit back and harp on their idiotic and corrupt lies and accuse them of being in bed with Haliburton, having no plan and being generally worthless, demanding the troops come home, get a little taste of their own medicine.
bueno
In a class by himself
What office was he elected to again?Do you consider Pat Robertson a politician? I sure as hell do. You can tell he has a disdain for any religion not Christian. If this is an extremist thing then why won't the people who they support tell them to shut up. Maybe the extremists are saying things that the other politicians wish they had the balls to say.Pretty sure no politician has ever said "Islam is immoral." Extremists is the key word.
bueno
In a class by himself
Really? Remember during the dash to Baghdad, the convoys stopped to rest and refuel and the media was calling it "bogged down?" The media never was impartial in this war - not from day one.I watched CNNI last night while waiting for the speech. It was a two hour parade of Bush-bashers with no attempt to tell the other side of the story - not one.Godsbrother said:
bueno
In a class by himself
Cool!
pettifogger
Footballguy
1 - Dems voted to authorize force to remove Saddam Hussein from power. The part about dispersing the Army and the entire civilian government without enough troops to secure the country was Bush's idea. 2 - Dems got classified summaries, not the complete info Bush had, and to the extent doubts were expressed in classified reports, committee members who got them couldn't even share this info with others in Congress or use the info in debates. Not that this would have changed the result, but it's not true that they had "the same" info.
3 - so in other words you're saying if a Dem wins in 2008, the Repubs will return to the gutless partisan sniping they did regarding Bosnia, Kosovo, and Somalia under Clinton? Slim, we're in agreement there.
pettifogger
Footballguy
They were all against me! They fought me at every turn! But I had the key to the food locker, and given enough time I would have proven ...
SlimShady
tommyboy alias
1- great, we agree then that the dems are hypocrites now for uttering the term "Bush's War", as if he's a lone soldier. Thanks2- Carl Levin stated on Dec. 12, 2001, "The war on terrorism will not be finished as long as [saddam] is in power." Jay Rockefeller said in Oct. 2002, "I do believe that Iraq poses an imminent threat." Hillary Clinton stated that same month that Saddam "has also given aid and comfort and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members." And John Kerry said, soon after we attacked Afghanistan, that "this doesn't end with Afghanistan by any imagination. . .It is absolutely vital that we continue for instance [after] Saddam Hussein."
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
"Hussein has... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
"There is no doubt that... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and
others, December 5, 2001
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
3-if it works for Dems after 8 years, you'll be sure to see at least 4 more of it from the other side. Since the dems have half the power, they actually have to be quiet please and govern now. Thank god, i'm so sick of their incessant and hollow whining.
Jesus give it a rest. You'll have your tree hugging, gutless democrat president in a year. Cant you even wait that long?
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Nope, I don't remember that but that doesn't mean it didn't happen, I believe you. But I never claimed that the media didn't have bias because some of them do (on both sides of the war). What I remember from the news I was watching (local & ABC) was the televising of the Sadaam statue being toppled, people dancing in the streets and Bush on the aircraft carrier with the "Mission Accomplished" banner. There was a lot of concern for the troops because we were expecting them to run into the Republican Guard and the use of chemical weapons. Fortunately that never happened.But even if the media was not impartial it doesn't change the awful handling of the war by the Bush administration. The fact remains that the administration has gotten everything they've asked for from congress since day one of the invasion and free reign to run the war as they saw fit. The result has been over 3,000 American lives lost, 25,000 injured, an unknown number of Iraqis dead, hundreds of billions of dollars spent and a country on the brink of civil war. The Bush administration handling of the Iraqi war has been a disaster. I don't see how you can dispute that. If it makes you feel better to blame the media then go ahead but I it is like blaming the Detroit Lion beat writer for the last 6 crappy seasons instead of GM Matt Millen.I sincerely hope Bush can turn this around and stabilize Iraq to the point that we can start pulling troops out of there instead of sending more in. If he does I will be happy to give him the credit -- I just don't have any confidence that he knows what he is doing.
RoarinSonoran
Footballguy
So LHUCKS, what did your Senators and Representative have to say when you called today? 
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Left messages early in the morning before the offices opened. I guess you couldn't even reach McCain's office during business hours...busy all day according to one of my buddies from college.McCain has no shot at the Republican nomination...Rudy is playing it smart by laying low.So LHUCKS, what did your Senators and Representative have to say when you called today?
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RoarinSonoran
Footballguy
He had protestors outside his office today, so he was probably out playing golf or something.Left messages early in the morning before the offices opened. I guess you couldn't even reach McCain's office during business hours...busy all day according to one of my buddies from college.McCain has no shot at the Republican nomination...Rudy is playing it smart by laying low.So LHUCKS, what did your Senators and Representative have to say when you called today?
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Not surprised...his stance on the war will prove to cost him dearly.He had protestors outside his office today, so he was probably out playing golf or something.Left messages early in the morning before the offices opened. I guess you couldn't even reach McCain's office during business hours...busy all day according to one of my buddies from college.McCain has no shot at the Republican nomination...Rudy is playing it smart by laying low.So LHUCKS, what did your Senators and Representative have to say when you called today?
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There are a few real gems in this threadPretty funny but not quite as good as "get your money out of the stock market NOW".
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