steelcityman
Footballguy
If there is, I cant find it.
can someone link it here if there is one for 2015?
thanks
can someone link it here if there is one for 2015?
thanks
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Is there an every down LB page like years past? (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter steelcityman
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It's in Bramel's preseason notes update #3:
http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/article.php?article=15bramel_rtd_preseason3
http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/article.php?article=15bramel_rtd_preseason3
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
steelcityman
Footballguy
thanks!
J Giles Band
Footballguy
Probably should have long ago... Jene's work is worth the subscription price by itself.
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BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Still plenty of interaction on Twitter. Jene's usually pretty active there, especially in-season.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
TY for that. Maybe that will help. Dont do a bunch of stuff on twitter, but I will try and take a look-see.
J Giles Band
Footballguy
I don't think so. This board has been slowly fading due to a couple of reasons that I can account for (and probably others that I cannot).#1 - A few years ago this board had constant representation from not only Jene, but also Norton and Anthony Borbley. Magaw, Bloom and Rudnicki also pitched in from time-to-time as well. It was a constant source of terrific IDP information (every down LB thread, etc.) and discussion from the staff as well as many experienced posters. Jene, Norton and Borbley were constant presences in the IDP Assistant Coach forum to answer start/sit questions. And then all of a sudden everyone except for Jene disappeared. No express reason was given, but the undertone was that FBG's didn't want to continue giving away so much valuable content for free at the expense of growing their pay ranks. And frankly, this board was SO good at that time, you didn't need the subscription from an IDP perspective.
#2 - Not long after, Borbley, in particular, and maybe 1-2 others began hard selling what was at the time new daily fantasy football sites. It was only thinly disguised as a suggestion to check out the daily fantasy sites, but it became an ongoing sell job that pretty quickly revealed itself as an advertising agreement between the new sites and FBG's. No worries as far as the business relationship, FBG's is in business to make $ after all, but Borbley and crew tried to pass it off as if they were doing us a favor when, in fact they were just trying to sell the product (probably their marching orders). This is not directly related to the downturn in the IDP Forum, but an interesting footnote, nonetheless.
#3 - And as discussed, Twitter has been the final death knell to the IDP Forum. Jene (and others) have become prolific there in a medium that let's face it, is more current and reaches more people.
Sadly, the staff and most of the veteran posters (for the most part) have abandoned the IDP forum. Whether due to time constraints, marching orders from management, new communication options (Twitter) or the big one, profit centers, the forum just can't compete.
That said, there are a few of us old heads (I hope Tick, Donnybrook, Buck, 5-ish Finkle and Warpig don't mind me including them in that endearing club) who stick around out of habit. Tick, in particular, has taken the baton in the AC forum.
This probably only scratches the surface, really. But should give some perspective...
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Thanks....J Giles Band...You provide excellent insight as to why this forum is almost dead. Not only did the FGB staffers help to keep the "old heads" engaged in excellent discussion surrounding IDP, but they provided analysis beyond the IDP articles generated by Jene and Norton. Sadly, I don't believe there is a way to resuscitate the forum, especially when profit centers and marching orders drive how information is distributed.
The Claymaker
Footballguy
Like most things and most places in today's world, if they can squeeze you for another dime, they will. I think when Jene stopped being a regular poster in here that is when it stopped being relevant, which was probably two years ago now. We still do have some regulars that post occasionally in here and I always visit this forum when I come to FBG, but overall this place is pretty dead now in comparison to just 2-3 years ago.
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Shane Falco
Footballguy
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I can only speak for myself but I will address why my forum participation dropped significantly. By the way, I am no longer on staff.
My lack of participation here was pretty much 100% related to severe time constraints. These were as a result of serious life issues. The best way to describe my life over the last few years without going into detail is with the trainwreck avatar. As an aside, things are slowly improving. Basically the time constraints not only limited me here but made writing my articles and completing them on time a major challenge. In fact I was late on deadlines a few times and in some instances I did not complete them in time to submit them at all, which is unacceptable. That's how limited I was with respect to time and that is the primary reason I am no longer on staff. Obviously my articles were my top priority and I could not even finish them on time every week let alone participate in the forums as I had in the past.
Again, I can only speak for myself but I was never told by management to avoid posting here. There were no marching orders, not even suggestions, not even comments. In fact we were always encouraged to participate in discussions assuming we had time. My lack of participation had nothing to do with marching orders or profit centers in any way. My lack of posting was solely related to time constraints because of serious issues in my life. Just wanted to clear that up.
AB
My lack of participation here was pretty much 100% related to severe time constraints. These were as a result of serious life issues. The best way to describe my life over the last few years without going into detail is with the trainwreck avatar. As an aside, things are slowly improving. Basically the time constraints not only limited me here but made writing my articles and completing them on time a major challenge. In fact I was late on deadlines a few times and in some instances I did not complete them in time to submit them at all, which is unacceptable. That's how limited I was with respect to time and that is the primary reason I am no longer on staff. Obviously my articles were my top priority and I could not even finish them on time every week let alone participate in the forums as I had in the past.
Again, I can only speak for myself but I was never told by management to avoid posting here. There were no marching orders, not even suggestions, not even comments. In fact we were always encouraged to participate in discussions assuming we had time. My lack of participation had nothing to do with marching orders or profit centers in any way. My lack of posting was solely related to time constraints because of serious issues in my life. Just wanted to clear that up.
AB
The Claymaker
Footballguy
Well I am more sorry for your real life situation than you not being able to post in what is suppose to be a fun hobby. I also wish you well and I am glad things are getting better and hopefully that continues as that is far more important than this, which is really not important at all when we keep things in perspective. I hope someday you are able to come back just as a regular poster and contributor to the IDP forum, I always enjoyed your comments and insight.
Best of luck to you.
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J Giles Band
Footballguy
Anthony,It's great to see you in the forum again and I'm glad to hear things are beginning to slow down a bit. I do seem to recall you had some serious academic responsibilities in recent years. Please accept my apology if it seemed as though I singled you out... it was not my intent. Frankly, the board isn't the same without you guys and that was the main point of my post.
Best of luck in all of your endeavors and hope to cross paths more often going forward.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Thanks guys. Things are looking up here. I only mentioned my situation because many people suggested or implied that lack of forum posting has to do with orders from management or profit centers and (at least in my case) simply is not true.
The IDP forum in general is much different than it used to be and changes began slowly and before my posting slowed. We had fewer quality members posting and at the same time, discussions frequently turned to posters asking for advice. We tried to steer the discussion away from advice and get it back on track but with the growth of the boards it was very hard to do. I know other staffers were also frustrated with this. The shark pool sort of "self-polices" this but it is much harder here with fewer regular posters that offer great discussion. While I think this is part of the overall lack of posting, I believe it's a small part.
I know time constraints is the biggest reason for me and I have to believe others probably have more on their plate as well but to me the biggest reason for fewer posts here is obviously twitter. I know several staffers regularly frequent twitter and it is free.
Again, my main point is that I was never told to not post here and profit centers are not a reason for lack of posts. My situation is unique but I'm sure time constraints is a partial reason for a handful of staffers. However, I believe twitter is the biggest reason by far.
AB
The IDP forum in general is much different than it used to be and changes began slowly and before my posting slowed. We had fewer quality members posting and at the same time, discussions frequently turned to posters asking for advice. We tried to steer the discussion away from advice and get it back on track but with the growth of the boards it was very hard to do. I know other staffers were also frustrated with this. The shark pool sort of "self-polices" this but it is much harder here with fewer regular posters that offer great discussion. While I think this is part of the overall lack of posting, I believe it's a small part.
I know time constraints is the biggest reason for me and I have to believe others probably have more on their plate as well but to me the biggest reason for fewer posts here is obviously twitter. I know several staffers regularly frequent twitter and it is free.
Again, my main point is that I was never told to not post here and profit centers are not a reason for lack of posts. My situation is unique but I'm sure time constraints is a partial reason for a handful of staffers. However, I believe twitter is the biggest reason by far.
AB
