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Is this the hardest stretch of 8 games ever? (Rams - with pole) (1 Viewer)

Is this the hardest 8-game stretch in NFL history

  • Yes - ahead of the season nobody has ever gotten hosed this bad

    Votes: 11 16.7%
  • Very tough - but not the toughest ever

    Votes: 39 59.1%
  • Average - this is an average schedule stretch

    Votes: 4 6.1%
  • Are you kidding? This is a cakewalk - in the old days teams had to play uphill both ways!

    Votes: 3 4.5%
  • Smoo

    Votes: 9 13.6%

  • Total voters
    66

QuizGuy66

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Going into yesterday, it was already pretty clear the Rams were going to have probably the hardest schedule in the entire league. 2 games against the Seahawks, 49ers, and 10-win Cardinals. Out of conference games against the Chiefs, Chargers, and Broncos. An Eagles game for good measure. Tough stuff for sure.

But the NFL really stuck it to them when they put together the order the games. Has an NFL team ever faced this kind of 8 game stretch like the Rams have from weeks 5 to 12 (2013 record in parentheses):

Week 5 at PHL (10-6, lost wild card game)

Week 6 SF (12-4, lost conference final)

Week 7 SEA (13-3, won Super Bowl)

Week 8 at KC (11-5, lost wild card game)

Week 9 at SF (12-4, lost conference final)

Week 10 at AZ (10-6)

Week 11 DEN (13-3, lost Super Bowl)

Week 12 at SD (9-7, lost divisional playoff)

Just wow. 7 out of 8 against playoff teams (with the other team having 10 wins), 7 in a row against 10-win teams, 5 of the 8 games on the road including 3 straight. Crazy.

-QG

 
Its crazy this year. The AFC West and NFC West are arguably the 2 toughest divisions in football and they face each other in out of conference matchups. The Broncos open up with Colts, Chiefs, Hawks, Bye, Cards, Jets, 49ers, Chargers and then Patriots as their first half schedule. In the end its possible that only the division winners will make the playoffs as the wildcards may come out of the other divisions. Crazy!

 
I think what makes this stretch probably the toughest ever is that the Rams finished last in their division. I didn't vote for "they got hosed" because the yearly opponents are pre-determined so, it's not as if they didn't know who they would be playing or that the people making the schedule had any choice in the matter. Also, the first 4 weeks are against 2 losing teams, a .500 team then a bye to get ready for the brutal 8 weeks. Coming out of that stretch they get two of the worst teams in the league.

 
1991 Phoenix Cardinals:

@ LA Rams 3-13

@ Phila 10-6 Football Outsiders #1 defense of all time

@ Was 14-2 1991 SB champs

Dal 11-5 1992 SB Champs

NE 6-10

@ NYG 8-8 1990 SB Champs

@ Minn 8-8

Atl 10-6

Minn 8-8

@ Dal 11-5 1992 SB Champs

NYG 8-8 1990 SB Champs

@ SF 10-6

Phi 10-6 Football Outsiders #1 defense of all time

Was 14-2 1991 SB champs

@ Den 12-4

NO 10-6

7 games against playoff teams, 10 games against 10 win teams, 4 games against 8-8 teams (2 of which were the defending SB champs) and 2 games against teams with losing records

 
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Its crazy this year. The AFC West and NFC West are arguably the 2 toughest divisions in football and they face each other in out of conference matchups. The Broncos open up with Colts, Chiefs, Hawks, Bye, Cards, Jets, 49ers, Chargers and then Patriots as their first half schedule. In the end its possible that only the division winners will make the playoffs as the wildcards may come out of the other divisions. Crazy!
:yes: If you listed the top 10 teams in the league, you could have seven from the West, NO, Carolina, and Green Bay.

 
LOL yeah but all I've been hearing is how the Rams raped the Skins in the RG3 trade. They should have so much talent on their team by now they should be able to beat an all star team 90% of the time.

Wait a sec that's right I forgot they still don't have a quarterback. They're ####ed. LOL enjoy wasting all those great players peaks because you have Bradford under center.

 
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FUBAR said:
jon007 said:
Its crazy this year. The AFC West and NFC West are arguably the 2 toughest divisions in football and they face each other in out of conference matchups. The Broncos open up with Colts, Chiefs, Hawks, Bye, Cards, Jets, 49ers, Chargers and then Patriots as their first half schedule. In the end its possible that only the division winners will make the playoffs as the wildcards may come out of the other divisions. Crazy!
:yes: If you listed the top 10 teams in the league, you could have seven from the West, NO, Carolina, and Green Bay.
No, you couldn't...

For starters, give me the teams with Tom Brady and Andrew Luck over the teams with Sam Bradford, Carson Palmer and Alex Smith...

 
LOL yeah but all I've been hearing is how the Rams raped the Skins in the RG3 trade. They should have so much talent on their team by now they should be able to beat an all star team 90% of the time.

Wait a sec that's right I forgot they still don't have a quarterback. They're ####ed. LOL enjoy wasting all those great players peaks because you have Bradford under center.
You hit the nail in the head. Rams wasted so many premium picks. I guess it is really hard to both win the trade and make the right pick.

 
dhockster said:
1991 Phoenix Cardinals:

LA Rams 3-13

Phila 10-6 Football Outsiders #1 defense of all time

Was 14-2 1991 SB champs

Dal 11-5 1992 SB Champs

NE 6-10

NYG 8-8 1990 SB Champs

Minn 8-8

Atl 10-6

Minn 8-8

Dal 11-5 1992 SB Champs

NYG 8-8 1990 SB Champs

SF 10-6

Phi 10-6 Football Outsiders #1 defense of all time

Was 14-2 1991 SB champs

Den 12-4

NO 10-6

7 games against playoff teams, 10 games against 10 win teams, 4 games against 8-8 teams (2 of which were the defending SB champs) and 2 games against teams with losing records
but no stretch of 8 like the Rams got. Also curious of the home/road split.

I'm not asking hardest schedule ever - also while the opponents are predetermined the order isn't.

They could start 3-0 and then find themselves 3-8 really easily.

-QG

 
LOL yeah but all I've been hearing is how the Rams raped the Skins in the RG3 trade. They should have so much talent on their team by now they should be able to beat an all star team 90% of the time.

Wait a sec that's right I forgot they still don't have a quarterback. They're ####ed. LOL enjoy wasting all those great players peaks because you have Bradford under center.
They lost 3 of those games with Bradford before they realized Stacy was their best RB.

All of the players they got in the deal have another year of experience - Brockers, Jenkins, Ogletree, Bailey, Stacy - and now they are likely adding potential All-Pro LT Greg Robinson.

 
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LOL yeah but all I've been hearing is how the Rams raped the Skins in the RG3 trade. They should have so much talent on their team by now they should be able to beat an all star team 90% of the time.

Wait a sec that's right I forgot they still don't have a quarterback. They're ####ed. LOL enjoy wasting all those great players peaks because you have Bradford under center.
They lost 3 of those games with Bradford before they realized Stacy was their best RB.

All of the players they got in the deal have another year of experience - Brockers, Jenkins, Ogletree, Bailey, Stacy - and now they are likely adding potential All-Pro LT Greg Robinson.
haha I still don't see a franchise QB on that list. Until Bradford plays like one or they draft one they aren't going to be good.

 
dhockster said:
1991 Phoenix Cardinals:

LA Rams 3-13

Phila 10-6 Football Outsiders #1 defense of all time

Was 14-2 1991 SB champs

Dal 11-5 1992 SB Champs

NE 6-10

NYG 8-8 1990 SB Champs

Minn 8-8

Atl 10-6

Minn 8-8

Dal 11-5 1992 SB Champs

NYG 8-8 1990 SB Champs

SF 10-6

Phi 10-6 Football Outsiders #1 defense of all time

Was 14-2 1991 SB champs

Den 12-4

NO 10-6

7 games against playoff teams, 10 games against 10 win teams, 4 games against 8-8 teams (2 of which were the defending SB champs) and 2 games against teams with losing records
but no stretch of 8 like the Rams got. Also curious of the home/road split.

I'm not asking hardest schedule ever - also while the opponents are predetermined the order isn't.

They could start 3-0 and then find themselves 3-8 really easily.

-QG
I hear what you are saying but that 8 game stretch you mention will probably not be as tough as it looks now. Some of those teams will be worse from last year.

Also, in my example, to play your last 9 games against teams .500 or above with 7 of the 9 having at least 10 wins including the last 6 straight is pretty rough.

 
FUBAR said:
jon007 said:
Its crazy this year. The AFC West and NFC West are arguably the 2 toughest divisions in football and they face each other in out of conference matchups. The Broncos open up with Colts, Chiefs, Hawks, Bye, Cards, Jets, 49ers, Chargers and then Patriots as their first half schedule. In the end its possible that only the division winners will make the playoffs as the wildcards may come out of the other divisions. Crazy!
:yes: If you listed the top 10 teams in the league, you could have seven from the West, NO, Carolina, and Green Bay.
No, you couldn't...

For starters, give me the teams with Tom Brady and Andrew Luck over the teams with Sam Bradford, Carson Palmer and Alex Smith...
We'll see. QB is key but the rest of the cardinals, rams and chiefs are pretty Damn good

 
1990 Giants played 7 playoff teams including road games against SF, one in reg season(L), one in NFL Championship game (w).

2007 Giants played ,and won, 4 straight road playoff games, including two against 13-3 teams, and add to it, the final game of the 2007 season was against the 15-0 NE Patriots..

so,sorry, these 5 straight games against the NFL's best teams, trump 8 straight 'tough' games for the Lambs..they had the third hardest reg season schedule,and 4th toughest playoff schedule..

toughest schedules all time

2004 pats

2005 Steelers tied with 2007 Giants

1990 Giants

I guess Jeff Fischer should have his house on the market by now, he's going to be unemployed come week 16..he's a lousy coach and lousy hire by the Rams..

and the Lions went 0-16 a couple years back,that's double the 8-game sample size..;-)

 
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I guess Jeff Fischer should have his house on the market by now, he's going to be unemployed come week 16..he's a lousy coach and lousy hire by the Rams..
Am I the only one who thinks he will actually have a winning record this year?

 
LOL yeah but all I've been hearing is how the Rams raped the Skins in the RG3 trade. They should have so much talent on their team by now they should be able to beat an all star team 90% of the time.

Wait a sec that's right I forgot they still don't have a quarterback. They're ####ed. LOL enjoy wasting all those great players peaks because you have Bradford under center.
They lost 3 of those games with Bradford before they realized Stacy was their best RB.

All of the players they got in the deal have another year of experience - Brockers, Jenkins, Ogletree, Bailey, Stacy - and now they are likely adding potential All-Pro LT Greg Robinson.
haha I still don't see a franchise QB on that list. Until Bradford plays like one or they draft one they aren't going to be good.
The Ravens won the SB two years ago with a QB who played no better than Bradford last year. I think Bradford is a bit of a game manager ala Alex Smith (at least so far) but the Rams don't need a 'franchise QB' to win.

Here's a list of QB's (excluding their rookie year) who through age 26 had less than 7 YPA, > 40 TD's and < 40 INT's:

Code:
        NAME 	        POS 	YRs 	        G 	CMP 	ATT 	PYD 	Y/A 	PTD 	INT 	FANT PT1	Matt Ryan	qb	2009--2011	46	967	1588	10798	6.80	79	35	864.42	Tom Brady	qb	2001--2003	47	954	1541	10227	6.64	69	38	785.33	McNabb    	qb	2000--2002	42	826	1423	8887	6.25	63	31	906.54	Jeff Blake	qb	1994--1996	42	790	1422	9600	6.75	66	40	817.05	Steve McNair	qb	1996--1999	53	780	1381	9269	6.71	47	35	923.36	Brian Griese	qb	1999--2001	39	752	1239	8547	6.90	56	37	679.17	Sam Bradford	qb	2011--2013	33	678	1170	7553	6.46	41	23	543.28	Aaron Brooks	qb	2001--2002	32	595	1086	7404	6.82	53	37	624.6
 
Looks tough now, but we all know by week 8 our preseason perceptions of teams and divisions have often completely changed. I think KC is just as likely to go 4-12 than 12-4. Same with Arizona.

In the crazy world that is the NFL it wouldn't even be that surprising if Seattle or San Francisco, with no major negative changes that should have made them worse, are considered mediocre or even bad teams. Same with the NFC West as a whole. It happens every year.

 
LOL yeah but all I've been hearing is how the Rams raped the Skins in the RG3 trade. They should have so much talent on their team by now they should be able to beat an all star team 90% of the time.

Wait a sec that's right I forgot they still don't have a quarterback. They're ####ed. LOL enjoy wasting all those great players peaks because you have Bradford under center.
They lost 3 of those games with Bradford before they realized Stacy was their best RB.

All of the players they got in the deal have another year of experience - Brockers, Jenkins, Ogletree, Bailey, Stacy - and now they are likely adding potential All-Pro LT Greg Robinson.
haha I still don't see a franchise QB on that list. Until Bradford plays like one or they draft one they aren't going to be good.
The Ravens won the SB two years ago with a QB who played no better than Bradford last year. I think Bradford is a bit of a game manager ala Alex Smith (at least so far) but the Rams don't need a 'franchise QB' to win.

Here's a list of QB's (excluding their rookie year) who through age 26 had less than 7 YPA, > 40 TD's and < 40 INT's:

NAME POS YRs G CMP ATT PYD Y/A PTD INT FANT PT1 Matt Ryan qb 2009--2011 46 967 1588 10798 6.80 79 35 864.42 Tom Brady qb 2001--2003 47 954 1541 10227 6.64 69 38 785.33 McNabb qb 2000--2002 42 826 1423 8887 6.25 63 31 906.54 Jeff Blake qb 1994--1996 42 790 1422 9600 6.75 66 40 817.05 Steve McNair qb 1996--1999 53 780 1381 9269 6.71 47 35 923.36 Brian Griese qb 1999--2001 39 752 1239 8547 6.90 56 37 679.17 Sam Bradford qb 2011--2013 33 678 1170 7553 6.46 41 23 543.28 Aaron Brooks qb 2001--2002 32 595 1086 7404 6.82 53 37 624.6
A guy like Matt Ryan being kind of recent gives a little hope, but the rest of those all came in a different era as far as passing figures go. If Ryan Tannehill had come into the league the years those other guys did and done exactly what he's done now he'd be considered one of the most promising young QBs in recent memory.

 
LOL yeah but all I've been hearing is how the Rams raped the Skins in the RG3 trade. They should have so much talent on their team by now they should be able to beat an all star team 90% of the time.

Wait a sec that's right I forgot they still don't have a quarterback. They're ####ed. LOL enjoy wasting all those great players peaks because you have Bradford under center.
They lost 3 of those games with Bradford before they realized Stacy was their best RB.

All of the players they got in the deal have another year of experience - Brockers, Jenkins, Ogletree, Bailey, Stacy - and now they are likely adding potential All-Pro LT Greg Robinson.
haha I still don't see a franchise QB on that list. Until Bradford plays like one or they draft one they aren't going to be good.
The Ravens won the SB two years ago with a QB who played no better than Bradford last year. I think Bradford is a bit of a game manager ala Alex Smith (at least so far) but the Rams don't need a 'franchise QB' to win.

Here's a list of QB's (excluding their rookie year) who through age 26 had less than 7 YPA, > 40 TD's and < 40 INT's:

NAME POS YRs G CMP ATT PYD Y/A PTD INT FANT PT1 Matt Ryan qb 2009--2011 46 967 1588 10798 6.80 79 35 864.42 Tom Brady qb 2001--2003 47 954 1541 10227 6.64 69 38 785.33 McNabb qb 2000--2002 42 826 1423 8887 6.25 63 31 906.54 Jeff Blake qb 1994--1996 42 790 1422 9600 6.75 66 40 817.05 Steve McNair qb 1996--1999 53 780 1381 9269 6.71 47 35 923.36 Brian Griese qb 1999--2001 39 752 1239 8547 6.90 56 37 679.17 Sam Bradford qb 2011--2013 33 678 1170 7553 6.46 41 23 543.28 Aaron Brooks qb 2001--2002 32 595 1086 7404 6.82 53 37 624.6
I guess we'll see what they do this year. It seems the schedule will be what they blame now though.

 
1990 Giants played 7 playoff teams including road games against SF, one in reg season(L), one in NFL Championship game (w).

2007 Giants played ,and won, 4 straight road playoff games, including two against 13-3 teams, and add to it, the final game of the 2007 season was against the 15-0 NE Patriots..

so,sorry, these 5 straight games against the NFL's best teams, trump 8 straight 'tough' games for the Lambs..they had the third hardest reg season schedule,and 4th toughest playoff schedule..

toughest schedules all time

2004 pats

2005 Steelers tied with 2007 Giants

1990 Giants

I guess Jeff Fischer should have his house on the market by now, he's going to be unemployed come week 16..he's a lousy coach and lousy hire by the Rams..

and the Lions went 0-16 a couple years back,that's double the 8-game sample size..;-)
This is the 2007 giants schedule. All records are from 2006, that is this is what the schedule looked like when the schedule was announced. There is nothing even remotely like what the Rams were dealt. The premise is ahead of the season. I'm sure the results are similar for the other schedules you listed but will do them when I get a chance.

at Dallas (9-7, wildcard loss)

Green Bay (8-8)

at Washington (5-11)

Philadelphia (10-6, divisional playoff loss)

Jets (10-6, wildcard loss)

at Atlanta (7-9)

San Francisco (7-9)

at Miami (6-10)

bye

Dallas (9-7, wildcard loss)

at Detroit (3-13)

Minnesota (6-10)

at Chicago (13-3, lost Super Bowl)

at Philadelphia (10-6, divisional playoff loss)

Washington (5-11)

at Buffalo (7-9)

New England (12-4, lost conference finals) when the schedule was made nobody knew that this team would be 15-0

-QG

 
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1990 Giants schedule (1989 Records in parentheses):

Philadelphia (11-5, lost wildcard)

at Dallas (1-15)

Miami (8-8)

Dallas (1-15)

Bye

at Washington (10-6)

Phoenix (5-11)

Washington (10-6)

at Indianapolis (8-8)

at L.A. Rams (11-5, lost conference final)

Detroit (7-9)

at Philadelphia (11-5, lost wildcard)

at San Francisco (14-2, won Super Bowl)

Minnesota (10-6, lost divisional round)

Buffalo (9-7, lost divisional round)

at Phoenix (5-11)

at New England (5-11)

Again, nothing ahead of that 1990 season that looks remotely like what this year's Rams face in that 8-game stretch.

-QG

 
2004 Patriots (2003 records in parentheses):

Indianapolis (12-4, lost conference finals)

at Arizona (4-12)

Bye

at Buffalo (6-10)

Miami (10-6)

Seattle (10-6, lost wildcard)

Jets (6-10)

at Pittsburgh (6-10)

at St. Louis (12-4, lost divisional round)

Buffalo (6-10)

at Kansas City (13-3, lost divisional round)

Baltimore (10-6, lost wildcard)

at Cleveland (5-11)

Cincinnati (8-8)

at Miami (10-6)

at Jets (6-10)

San Francisco (7-9)

And again, there's no 8 game stretch in that schedule when it was released that looks anything like this Rams schedule.

Can't look after the fact. By that measure the Colts could have the "toughest" schedule when all is said and done when the Jags go 16-0, the Texans 14-2, the Titans 12-4, and the entire NFC East goes 10-6, etc. But ahead of the season, the Colts schedule is crazy easy and in a workable order. Not so with the 2014 Rams.

-QG

 
2005 Steelers Schedule (2004 records in parenthses):

Tennessee (5-11)

at Houston (7-9)

New England (14-2, won super bowl)

Bye

at San Diego (12-4, lost divisional round)

Jacksonville (9-7)

at Cincinnati (8-8)

Baltimore (9-7)

at Green Bay (10-6, lost divisional round)

Cleveland (4-12)

at Baltimore (9-7)

at Indianpolis (12-4, lost divisional round)

Cincinnati (8-8)

Chicago (5-11)

at Minnesota (8-8)

at Cleveland (4-12)

Detroit (6-10)

There's a 6 game stretch where they faced teams with an 8-8 or better records (half of which are 9-7 or 8-8). They had a bye in the middle. 3 of the 6 were at home. Again, ahead of the season nothing remotely like the 8-game run of hell that's been teed up for the Rams.

-QG

 
There's been divisions that were excellent so I'd have to guess it's up there but there's probably similar. Thanks for pointing it out. This will be interesting for the Bradford haters.

 
At least 3 of those playoff teams from last year won't make the playoffs this year.
KC, AZ, PHI?
Interesting choice of teams. All three teams have high expectations for 2014. I can see that AZ won't be there with SEA and SF. I can also see that KC won't be there with DEN but what NFC East team will knock PHI out of the playoffs? I don't see it.

 
yes brohan and it means that the rams are the best team ever take that to the bank brochacho

 
Going into yesterday, it was already pretty clear the Rams were going to have probably the hardest schedule in the entire league. 2 games against the Seahawks, 49ers, and 10-win Cardinals. Out of conference games against the Chiefs, Chargers, and Broncos. An Eagles game for good measure. Tough stuff for sure.

But the NFL really stuck it to them when they put together the order the games. Has an NFL team ever faced this kind of 8 game stretch like the Rams have from weeks 5 to 12 (2013 record in parentheses):

Week 5 at PHL (10-6, lost wild card game)

Week 6 SF (12-4, lost conference final)

Week 7 SEA (13-3, won Super Bowl)

Week 8 at KC (11-5, lost wild card game)

Week 9 at SF (12-4, lost conference final)

Week 10 at AZ (10-6)

Week 11 DEN (13-3, lost Super Bowl)

Week 12 at SD (9-7, lost divisional playoff)

Just wow. 7 out of 8 against playoff teams (with the other team having 10 wins), 7 in a row against 10-win teams, 5 of the 8 games on the road including 3 straight. Crazy.

-QG
I would say 2008 Colts had a pretty rough stretch based on their opponents records in 2007:

WK 7 Packers (13-3, won NFC North, lost in NFC Championship)

WK 8 Tennessee (10-6, made playoffs)

WK 9 New England (16-0, won AFC East, lost SB)

WK 10 Pittsburg (10-6, won AFC North)

WK 11 Houston (8-8)

WK 12 San Diego (11-5, won AFC West, lost in AFC Championship)

WK 13 Cleveland (10-6, lost tiebreaker with Steelers for AFC North)

WK 14 Cinci (7-9)

WK 15 Detroit (7-9)

WK 16 Jacksonville (11-5, lost divisional round of playoffs)

WK 17 Tennessee (10-6, made playoffs)

That's 5 of 7 playoff contenders - including 3 of the 4 teams that made the Conference championship games - and 6 teams having at least 10 wins and...then finish the season with 2 matchups against teams in their division that made the playoffs the year before.

 
In 2007, the AFC South and NFC East each sent 3 teams to the playoffs.

In 2008, the AFC North played against....the AFC South and NFC East.

Since the Steelers won the divsion, they got to play NE and SD (who played in the AFC Championship the year before). They also got to play Indy, Jax, Ten, NYG, Dallas, and Washington. Cleveland was also a 10-team in 2007 that they got to play twice.

Starting with WK 5, they had an 11-game stretch were they played 8 playoff teams from 2007 and then they finished the season against against Cleveland.

 
Good thing all we have to do is pencil in the records for the year prior into the current year and all things remain constant in the NFL. Talk to me in week 8.

 
That defensive line is going to be NASTY. Isn't it four first-round picks? And they are all (more-or-less) living up to their draft status.

I'm on the STL DEF train for fantasy this year. CHOO-CHOO!

 

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