Imagine what Eli could do with that Patriot's O-Line. Brady has been the most overrated QB of all time. He just dinks and dunks and has half an hour to throw on each play because of his super line. Nice to see him have an epic fail two super bowls in a row. His tears sustain me.#### everybody on the giants. I may need to be held down before I explode. Brady is 1000 times better than Manning. Imagine what Brady could do if he had that D-line.
I've never seen Eli throw intentional grounding on his first pass attempt of any game let alone the Superbowl#### everybody on the giants. I may need to be held down before I explode. Brady is 1000 times better than Manning. Imagine what Brady could do if he had that D-line.
I'm sure the dude could find a new way to choke.#### everybody on the giants. I may need to be held down before I explode. Brady is 1000 times better than Manning. Imagine what Brady could do if he had that D-line.
I'm thinking about it, and I don't think that Brady has won a Super Bowl since dumping Moynahan after he got her pregnant and then marrying Giselle. So maybe some karma for pulling that? Giselle is his supermodel wife but also his Super Bowl jinx?Without video tape of the opposing teams defensive play calling and practices... yes.. Before spygate.. noNE wins when they cheat..
NYG beats NE by less than 7 points in the Superbowl, yet NE can't win without cheating? I suppose you diminish all their wins this season as "luck" or "vs. inferior opponents" or some such? This superbowl game could've gone either way -- it was close right up until the end.The NE hate runs real deep around here.Without video tape of the opposing teams defensive play calling and practices... yes.. Before spygate.. noNE wins when they cheat..
You see the combine record of there opposition in the regular season?They were handed the AFC championship game by the refs..And they haven't won a SB since getting busted for cheating...The score of tonight's game was closer than it should have been..NYG beats NE by less than 7 points in the Superbowl, yet NE can't win without cheating? I suppose you diminish all their wins this season as "luck" or "vs. inferior opponents" or some such? This superbowl game could've gone either way -- it was close right up until the end.The NE hate runs real deep around here.Without video tape of the opposing teams defensive play calling and practices... yes.. Before spygate.. noNE wins when they cheat..
On this point... it seems like 3 out of every 4 years I see the Patriots having the easiest schedule in the league. I wince each time.You see the combine record of there opposition in the regular season?
I think the hate for any team with a current history of cheating, and winning whilest cheating, would have earned some deep hatred among the fans. Regardless of the sport.The NE hate runs real deep around here.
Don't look up next year then. NFC West baby!On this point... it seems like 3 out of every 4 years I see the Patriots having the easiest schedule in the league. I wince each time.You see the combine record of there opposition in the regular season?
Really?Don't look up next year then. NFC West baby!On this point... it seems like 3 out of every 4 years I see the Patriots having the easiest schedule in the league. I wince each time.You see the combine record of there opposition in the regular season?
I left out the AFC South part, wouldn't want you to hurt yourself. Oh, oops.Really?Don't look up next year then. NFC West baby!On this point... it seems like 3 out of every 4 years I see the Patriots having the easiest schedule in the league. I wince each time.You see the combine record of there opposition in the regular season?![]()
Your username speaks volumes. Your team has won nothing since Spygate. Deal with it loser.Whats the worst part about being a Pats fan who has respected not only Eli Manning but the entire Giants organization forever?This thread and the mouth breathers that perpetuate it.Jump on whatever bandwagon happens to ever beat the patriots regardless of the stage the game is played on.6 weeks ago, you could find me and maybe 10 people in the eli manning thread giving him his dues and now hes suddenly not only an elite QB, hes obviously better than one of if not the greatest QB to ever play. Must be rough for you haters the other three months of the season when all you guys do is watch the pats win.
Nope, nothing at all. SB wins are the only thing that count towards a players career apparently (except for the 3 he already has) what an idiot.The only thing that matters is what happened this year, hats off to the giants, the haters can suck it - bandwagonning at a higher caliber than the Pack/Saints fans.Your username speaks volumes. Your team has won nothing since Spy Gate. Deal with it loser.Whats the worst part about being a Pats fan who has respected not only Eli Manning but the entire Giants organization forever?This thread and the mouth breathers that perpetuate it.Jump on whatever bandwagon happens to ever beat the patriots regardless of the stage the game is played on.6 weeks ago, you could find me and maybe 10 people in the eli manning thread giving him his dues and now hes suddenly not only an elite QB, hes obviously better than one of if not the greatest QB to ever play. Must be rough for you haters the other three months of the season when all you guys do is watch the pats win.
3 tainted rings. Haven't won a ring since Spygate and Vinatieri. They did run up the score in some meaningless regular season games with Randy Moss though. Good memories.Nope, nothing at all. SB wins are the only thing that count apparently (except for the 3 he already has) what an idiot.Your username speaks volumes. Your team has won nothing since Spy Gate. Deal with it loser.Whats the worst part about being a Pats fan who has respected not only Eli Manning but the entire Giants organization forever?This thread and the mouth breathers that perpetuate it.Jump on whatever bandwagon happens to ever beat the patriots regardless of the stage the game is played on.6 weeks ago, you could find me and maybe 10 people in the eli manning thread giving him his dues and now hes suddenly not only an elite QB, hes obviously better than one of if not the greatest QB to ever play. Must be rough for you haters the other three months of the season when all you guys do is watch the pats win.
Tainted, because you, a person that isnt relevant in that debate at all decided that your opinion was the only opinion and that like a child refused to look at anything objectively.They did something every team did and has admitted to doing, the only difference was they got caught doing it. They paid the price and I can safely say they won more games than whatever team you root for since then, oh wait I forgot those games dont count either.3 tainted rings. Haven't won a ring since Spygate and Vinatieri. They did run up the score in some meaningless regular season games with Randy Moss though. Good memories.Nope, nothing at all. SB wins are the only thing that count apparently (except for the 3 he already has) what an idiot.Your username speaks volumes. Your team has won nothing since Spy Gate. Deal with it loser.Whats the worst part about being a Pats fan who has respected not only Eli Manning but the entire Giants organization forever?This thread and the mouth breathers that perpetuate it.Jump on whatever bandwagon happens to ever beat the patriots regardless of the stage the game is played on.6 weeks ago, you could find me and maybe 10 people in the eli manning thread giving him his dues and now hes suddenly not only an elite QB, hes obviously better than one of if not the greatest QB to ever play. Must be rough for you haters the other three months of the season when all you guys do is watch the pats win.
Link me to where every team has admitted to videotaping other team's walkthroughs and defensive signals. It doesn't matter because I said so, many people hold this same opinion. Typically the NFL doesn't go around fining teams 500k and coaches 250k and taking away first round picks for nothing. Poor poor patwiot fan, I bet you were hoping so badly that they'd win this one so you could say "Look, look! We don't need to cheat to win."Tainted, because you, a person that isnt relevant in that debate at all decided that your opinion was the only opinion and that like a child refused to look at anything objectively.They did something every team did and has admitted to doing, the only difference was they got caught doing it. They paid the price and I can safely say they won more games than whatever team you root for since then, oh wait I forgot those games dont count either.3 tainted rings. Haven't won a ring since Spygate and Vinatieri. They did run up the score in some meaningless regular season games with Randy Moss though. Good memories.Nope, nothing at all. SB wins are the only thing that count apparently (except for the 3 he already has) what an idiot.Your username speaks volumes. Your team has won nothing since Spy Gate. Deal with it loser.Whats the worst part about being a Pats fan who has respected not only Eli Manning but the entire Giants organization forever?This thread and the mouth breathers that perpetuate it.Jump on whatever bandwagon happens to ever beat the patriots regardless of the stage the game is played on.6 weeks ago, you could find me and maybe 10 people in the eli manning thread giving him his dues and now hes suddenly not only an elite QB, hes obviously better than one of if not the greatest QB to ever play. Must be rough for you haters the other three months of the season when all you guys do is watch the pats win.
Oh please, you TROLL the piss out of this place.Whats the worst part about being a Pats fan who has respected not only Eli Manning but the entire Giants organization forever?This thread and the mouth breathers that perpetuate it.Jump on whatever bandwagon happens to ever beat the patriots regardless of the stage the game is played on.6 weeks ago, you could find me and maybe 10 people in the eli manning thread giving him his dues and now hes suddenly not only an elite QB, hes obviously better than one of if not the greatest QB to ever play. Must be rough for you haters the other three months of the season when all you guys do is watch the pats win.
FixedNope, nothing at all. SB wins* are the only thing that count towards a players career apparently (except for the 3* he already has) what an idiot.The only thing that matters is what happened this year, hats off to the giants, the haters can suck it - bandwagonning at a higher caliber than the Pack/Saints fans.Your username speaks volumes. Your team has won nothing since Spy Gate. Deal with it loser.Whats the worst part about being a Pats fan who has respected not only Eli Manning but the entire Giants organization forever?
This thread and the mouth breathers that perpetuate it.
Jump on whatever bandwagon happens to ever beat the patriots regardless of the stage the game is played on.
6 weeks ago, you could find me and maybe 10 people in the eli manning thread giving him his dues and now hes suddenly not only an elite QB, hes obviously better than one of if not the greatest QB to ever play. Must be rough for you haters the other three months of the season when all you guys do is watch the pats win.
LOL! Got any more excuses you can squeeze in there?You see the combine record of there opposition in the regular season?They were handed the AFC championship game by the refs..And they haven't won a SB since getting busted for cheating...The score of tonight's game was closer than it should have been..NYG beats NE by less than 7 points in the Superbowl, yet NE can't win without cheating? I suppose you diminish all their wins this season as "luck" or "vs. inferior opponents" or some such? This superbowl game could've gone either way -- it was close right up until the end.The NE hate runs real deep around here.Without video tape of the opposing teams defensive play calling and practices... yes.. Before spygate.. noNE wins when they cheat..
Excuses for what? Newsflash, Giants just took home the Lombardi trophy..LOL! Got any more excuses you can squeeze in there?You see the combine record of there opposition in the regular season?They were handed the AFC championship game by the refs..And they haven't won a SB since getting busted for cheating...The score of tonight's game was closer than it should have been..NYG beats NE by less than 7 points in the Superbowl, yet NE can't win without cheating? I suppose you diminish all their wins this season as "luck" or "vs. inferior opponents" or some such? This superbowl game could've gone either way -- it was close right up until the end.The NE hate runs real deep around here.Without video tape of the opposing teams defensive play calling and practices... yes.. Before spygate.. noNE wins when they cheat..
LMFAOEli on Sportscenter just said the best thing about bending Brady over is when he pulls out there's a ring on his ####!
It was enough for me when they made it to the superbowl in 07, I dont need the patriots to do anything to reinforce my opinion of them. Im not gonna go dig up anything, the burden of proof is no more mine than it is yours. There have been several coaches, members of coaching staff, scouts and players that have stated that it was regular practice.Link me to where every team has admitted to videotaping other team's walkthroughs and defensive signals. It doesn't matter because I said so, many people hold this same opinion. Typically the NFL doesn't go around fining teams 500k and coaches 250k and taking away first round picks for nothing. Poor poor patwiot fan, I bet you were hoping so badly that they'd win this one so you could say "Look, look! We don't need to cheat to win."Tainted, because you, a person that isnt relevant in that debate at all decided that your opinion was the only opinion and that like a child refused to look at anything objectively.They did something every team did and has admitted to doing, the only difference was they got caught doing it. They paid the price and I can safely say they won more games than whatever team you root for since then, oh wait I forgot those games dont count either.3 tainted rings. Haven't won a ring since Spygate and Vinatieri. They did run up the score in some meaningless regular season games with Randy Moss though. Good memories.Nope, nothing at all. SB wins are the only thing that count apparently (except for the 3 he already has) what an idiot.Your username speaks volumes. Your team has won nothing since Spy Gate. Deal with it loser.Whats the worst part about being a Pats fan who has respected not only Eli Manning but the entire Giants organization forever?This thread and the mouth breathers that perpetuate it.Jump on whatever bandwagon happens to ever beat the patriots regardless of the stage the game is played on.6 weeks ago, you could find me and maybe 10 people in the eli manning thread giving him his dues and now hes suddenly not only an elite QB, hes obviously better than one of if not the greatest QB to ever play. Must be rough for you haters the other three months of the season when all you guys do is watch the pats win.![]()
I assure you, if you were indeed trolled by me - which happens far less often than "piss", you met the requirements for doing so, guilty of but not limited to (Legitimate Tebow Praise, Patriots hating)Oh please, you TROLL the piss out of this place.
Correction, when you make the claim "everyone does it" the burden of proof is on you..It was enough for me when they made it to the superbowl in 07, I dont need the patriots to do anything to reinforce my opinion of them. Im not gonna go dig up anything, the burden of proof is no more mine than it is yours. There have been several coaches, members of coaching staff, scouts and players that have stated that it was regular practice.Link me to where every team has admitted to videotaping other team's walkthroughs and defensive signals. It doesn't matter because I said so, many people hold this same opinion. Typically the NFL doesn't go around fining teams 500k and coaches 250k and taking away first round picks for nothing. Poor poor patwiot fan, I bet you were hoping so badly that they'd win this one so you could say "Look, look! We don't need to cheat to win."Tainted, because you, a person that isnt relevant in that debate at all decided that your opinion was the only opinion and that like a child refused to look at anything objectively.They did something every team did and has admitted to doing, the only difference was they got caught doing it. They paid the price and I can safely say they won more games than whatever team you root for since then, oh wait I forgot those games dont count either.3 tainted rings. Haven't won a ring since Spygate and Vinatieri. They did run up the score in some meaningless regular season games with Randy Moss though. Good memories.Nope, nothing at all. SB wins are the only thing that count apparently (except for the 3 he already has) what an idiot.Your username speaks volumes. Your team has won nothing since Spy Gate. Deal with it loser.Whats the worst part about being a Pats fan who has respected not only Eli Manning but the entire Giants organization forever?
This thread and the mouth breathers that perpetuate it.
Jump on whatever bandwagon happens to ever beat the patriots regardless of the stage the game is played on.
6 weeks ago, you could find me and maybe 10 people in the eli manning thread giving him his dues and now hes suddenly not only an elite QB, hes obviously better than one of if not the greatest QB to ever play. Must be rough for you haters the other three months of the season when all you guys do is watch the pats win.
I assure you, if you were indeed trolled by me - which happens far less often than "piss", you met the requirements for doing so, guilty of but not limited to (Legitimate Tebow Praise, Patriots hating)Oh please, you TROLL the piss out of this place.
And im saying that I will worry about my claim, when he has proven:-that it had any effect on anything.Correction, when you make the claim "everyone does it" the burden of proof is on you..
If it had no effect, why would they have risked being caught cheating? Of course there was some effect, or they wouldn't be doing it.. How ridiculous do you sound?And im saying that I will worry about my claim, when he has proven:-that it had any effect on anything.Correction, when you make the claim "everyone does it" the burden of proof is on you..
-if it did how much.
-and that it had anything to do with the prior success of the team.
-that people besides the patriots werent doing it.
His claims are just as baseless the only difference is he talks louder.
First of all, that question is more than uninformed, they were videotaping the practices in broad daylight at a stadium, in clear view of everyone - they were doing it because everyone was doing it, the reason they got in trouble is Belichick was manipulating the system in a way the League didnt appreciate, thus they were fined and penalized.Second, my initial comment was that Eli deserved respect before this playoff run and more than half (a reasonable estimation) that he is receiving now is coming from Patriots haters, not Giants fans (or people that just legitimately respect him/them now). Believe it or not, people can like teams from the boston area AND new york, I have nothing but praise for Eli and the Giants, but the Patriots haters are the highest caliber mouth breathers ive ever seen, rivaled only by Jets and Tebow fans.If it had no effect, why would they have risked being caught cheating? Of course there was some effect, or they wouldn't be doing it.. How ridiculous do you sound?And im saying that I will worry about my claim, when he has proven:-that it had any effect on anything.Correction, when you make the claim "everyone does it" the burden of proof is on you..
-if it did how much.
-and that it had anything to do with the prior success of the team.
-that people besides the patriots werent doing it.
His claims are just as baseless the only difference is he talks louder.
First of all, that question is more than uninformed, they were videotaping the practices in broad daylight at a stadium, in clear view of everyone - they were doing it because everyone was doing it, the reason they got in trouble is Belichick was manipulating the system in a way the League didnt appreciate, thus they were fined and penalized.
Everyone was doing it! Just the Pats did it in a way that was against the rules!First of all, that question is more than uninformed, they were videotaping the practices in broad daylight at a stadium, in clear view of everyone - they were doing it because everyone was doing it, the reason they got in trouble is Belichick was manipulating the system in a way the League didnt appreciate, thus they were fined and penalized.![]()
Exactly.His throws down the field werent great either. He had consecutive completion's off of short passing game. Eli gets pressured more, doesn't have a cute scheme to make him look better and he was clutch as can be. That throw to manningham was sick. Great catch too.Imagine what Eli could do with that Patriot's O-Line. Brady has been the most overrated QB of all time. He just dinks and dunks and has half an hour to throw on each play because of his super line. Nice to see him have an epic fail two super bowls in a row. His tears sustain me.#### everybody on the giants. I may need to be held down before I explode. Brady is 1000 times better than Manning. Imagine what Brady could do if he had that D-line.
Its obviously a terrible argument and you stated it much more eloquently than I did. But the point remains, I never said they didnt cheat or break the rules, I said that making baseless claims (like they won 3 superbowls because they cheated and since then have done nothing) is stupid.Everyone was doing it! Just the Pats did it in a way that was against the rules!First of all, that question is more than uninformed, they were videotaping the practices in broad daylight at a stadium, in clear view of everyone - they were doing it because everyone was doing it, the reason they got in trouble is Belichick was manipulating the system in a way the League didnt appreciate, thus they were fined and penalized.![]()
So fans that respect the game, and consider blatant cheating disrespect for the game, are mouth breathers..?I'm not a Giants fan, and I am a Patriots hater. I'll volunteer that information freely. Now you'll claim that my Hate for NE has tainted my view.. But in reality, My hate was brewed from their cheating. I did respect what the Patriots had accomplished before it was proven that they cheated in the process of there accomplishments..First of all, that question is more than uninformed, they were videotaping the practices in broad daylight at a stadium, in clear view of everyone - they were doing it because everyone was doing it, the reason they got in trouble is Belichick was manipulating the system in a way the League didnt appreciate, thus they were fined and penalized.Second, my initial comment was that Eli deserved respect before this playoff run and more than half (a reasonable estimation) that he is receiving now is coming from Patriots haters, not Giants fans (or people that just legitimately respect him/them now). Believe it or not, people can like teams from the boston area AND new york, I have nothing but praise for Eli and the Giants, but the Patriots haters are the highest caliber mouth breathers ive ever seen, rivaled only by Jets and Tebow fans.If it had no effect, why would they have risked being caught cheating? Of course there was some effect, or they wouldn't be doing it.. How ridiculous do you sound?And im saying that I will worry about my claim, when he has proven:-that it had any effect on anything.Correction, when you make the claim "everyone does it" the burden of proof is on you..
-if it did how much.
-and that it had anything to do with the prior success of the team.
-that people besides the patriots werent doing it.
His claims are just as baseless the only difference is he talks louder.