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As worded the answer is absolutely not. As a musician, he's average at best among professionals. What he is is a great artist, with a clear vision of what he wants most of the time. The early White Stripes shows were unholy in how vicious he was with the combination of his tones and delivery. It was jaw on the floor stuff. And the idea that he overshadowed the Edge and Page in This Might Get Loud is silly. All three do remarkably different things, though Jack has definitely bitten hard from the Zep aesthetic.

 
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'Apple Jack said:
As worded the answer is absolutely not. As a musician, he's average at best among professionals. What he is is a great artist, with a clear vision for what he wants. The early White Stripes shows were unholy in how vicious he managed to be with the combination of his tones and performance. It was jaw on the floor stuff.And the idea that he overshadowed the Edge and Page in This Might Get Loud is silly. All three do remarkably different things, though Jack has definitely bitten hard from the Zep aesthetic.
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You realize we're tiring of you as the aesthete-in-residence, do you not? Have you no other way than lecture to express your abiding love of music?
 
'wikkidpissah said:
'Apple Jack said:
As worded the answer is absolutely not. As a musician, he's average at best among professionals. What he is is a great artist, with a clear vision for what he wants. The early White Stripes shows were unholy in how vicious he managed to be with the combination of his tones and performance. It was jaw on the floor stuff.And the idea that he overshadowed the Edge and Page in This Might Get Loud is silly. All three do remarkably different things, though Jack has definitely bitten hard from the Zep aesthetic.
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You realize we're tiring of you as the aesthete-in-residence, do you not? Have you no other way than lecture to express your abiding love of music?
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Sorry..."in my opinion." Better?And if you think you don't do the same thing, you're mistaken. You're just so obtuse in your delivery half the time that people don't have any idea what you're saying.
 
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'Apple Jack said:
'wikkidpissah said:
'Apple Jack said:
As worded the answer is absolutely not. As a musician, he's average at best among professionals. What he is is a great artist, with a clear vision for what he wants. The early White Stripes shows were unholy in how vicious he managed to be with the combination of his tones and performance. It was jaw on the floor stuff.And the idea that he overshadowed the Edge and Page in This Might Get Loud is silly. All three do remarkably different things, though Jack has definitely bitten hard from the Zep aesthetic.
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You realize we're tiring of you as the aesthete-in-residence, do you not? Have you no other way than lecture to express your abiding love of music?
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Sorry..."in my opinion."And if you think you don't do the same thing, you're mistaken.
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That doesnt help - who else's opinion would it be? Just saying that your great enthusiasm would be better appreciated with links & a fan's, instead of a pedant's, expression of how one enjoys or is moved by pieces & artists. If it's interesting enough, i'm sure we'll thank you & reply in kind. You're bright enough to be enjoyed without the metaphoric elbows. Just my opinion....
 
'Apple Jack said:
'wikkidpissah said:
'Apple Jack said:
As worded the answer is absolutely not. As a musician, he's average at best among professionals. What he is is a great artist, with a clear vision for what he wants. The early White Stripes shows were unholy in how vicious he managed to be with the combination of his tones and performance. It was jaw on the floor stuff.And the idea that he overshadowed the Edge and Page in This Might Get Loud is silly. All three do remarkably different things, though Jack has definitely bitten hard from the Zep aesthetic.
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You realize we're tiring of you as the aesthete-in-residence, do you not? Have you no other way than lecture to express your abiding love of music?
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Sorry..."in my opinion." Better?And if you think you don't do the same thing, you're mistaken. You're just so obtuse in your delivery half the time that people don't have any idea what you're saying.
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Hi guys! I'm here for the Pretention-Off!
 
'wikkidpissah said:
'Apple Jack said:
'wikkidpissah said:
'Apple Jack said:
As worded the answer is absolutely not. As a musician, he's average at best among professionals. What he is is a great artist, with a clear vision for what he wants. The early White Stripes shows were unholy in how vicious he managed to be with the combination of his tones and performance. It was jaw on the floor stuff.And the idea that he overshadowed the Edge and Page in This Might Get Loud is silly. All three do remarkably different things, though Jack has definitely bitten hard from the Zep aesthetic.
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You realize we're tiring of you as the aesthete-in-residence, do you not? Have you no other way than lecture to express your abiding love of music?
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Sorry..."in my opinion."And if you think you don't do the same thing, you're mistaken.
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That doesnt help - who else's opinion would it be? Just saying that your great enthusiasm would be better appreciated with links & a fan's, instead of a pedant's, expression of how one enjoys or is moved by pieces & artists. If it's interesting enough, i'm sure we'll thank you & reply in kind. You're bright enough to be enjoyed without the metaphoric elbows. Just my opinion....
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I'm not sure where I've done that here, but ok. I'll take that into consideration.
 
The guy on guitar here is probably the most talented in my opinion - Derek Trucks and his wife is not that far behind - in fact this is the most talented BAND out there today - IMO of coursehttp://youtu.be/-wVWjl9Kq6U - maybe one of the most perfect songs aroundAlso catch this one - Angel from Montgomery/Sugareehttp://youtu.be/ZrSK-0-MQ8sThe you tube comment is awesome"If Jesus played guitar he'd take lessons from Derek Trucks"Thankfully God saw it fit to say that Duane's time on this earth was too short and he instilled that talent and drive into Derek so we could enjoy it- it's spooky - real spooky.

 
Every time i see this scene from Walk Hard, i mourn that White seems to have locked himself in to a PrinceWorld kind of tunnel view, tempting as it might be when one has so singular a talent. If you can stand one of my CelebrityFlashbacks I'll tell you how much i wish JW would mainstream it a bit.

I have a famous movie-director cousin who i was once quite close to but have been on the outs with since i implored him not to cast Chinese actors in "Memoirs of a Geisha" and turned out to be right. Still, i send him a congratulatory letter or email every time he has a release and my "notes" every time one of his projects is announced. I get polite replies & that's about it anymore.

Cuz scored casting coups for his 3rd movie, "Nine" (yeah, i know) when he got Marion Cotillard & Javier Bardem for the leads about a month before each won their Oscars. Unfortunately, just when shooting scheds were announced, Bardem backed out. I had just seen Walk Hard and was blown away by the above scene (also liked what he did with "Cold Mountain"), so i wrote a long email to Rob, pleading with him to consider some delicious stunt-casting of White as Guido if they found themselves up against it timelinewise. He called me like ten minutes after i sent the email, laughing like the dickens. Turns out he knew White from when he was with Renee Zellwegger (Rob's friend & lead in "Chicago") and thought my suggestion was the most delightful inspiration i'd had in all the yrs we'd discussed his career stuff. He had just received a rewrite and, as we were talking, he was going thru and giggling over how JW might handle this & that scene. Told me he was in negotiations with a "big fish" (which turned out to be DD-L, for good or ill), but expressed how much he was going to enjoy thoughts of plugging White in if the deal fell through.

That's the kind of talent i see in the guy - just wish he would be less wrapped up in striking different chords.

 
'ffldrew said:
The guy on guitar here is probably the most talented in my opinion - Derek Trucks and his wife is not that far behind - in fact this is the most talented BAND out there today - IMO of coursehttp://youtu.be/-wVWjl9Kq6U - maybe one of the most perfect songs aroundAlso catch this one - Angel from Montgomery/Sugareehttp://youtu.be/ZrSK-0-MQ8sThe you tube comment is awesome"If Jesus played guitar he'd take lessons from Derek Trucks"Thankfully God saw it fit to say that Duane's time on this earth was too short and he instilled that talent and drive into Derek so we could enjoy it- it's spooky - real spooky.
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:goodposting: This guy gets it.Midnight in Harlem is a fantastic song :thumbup:
 
'Jewell said:
Jack White releases obscure blues records for 'no profit'

Jack White says he will make no profit by releasing a huge catalogue of pre-war and country blues on his own record label. The former White Stripes frontman said his aim was to make the rare recordings accessible for everyone.

"It's very important to American history and also to the history of the world," he told BBC 6 Music.

The back catalogue of more than 25,000 tracks is owned by Document records, a tiny Scottish independent Blues label. White intends to re-issue them all, on vinyl, via his company Third Man Records.

The Document label was set up in Austria in 1986, but is now owned by husband and wife Gary and Gillian Atkinson, who run it from their house in Scotland.

Mr Atkinson said the project came about when White emailed them at home.

"There's over 25,000 recordings," he explained, and White wants to set about "releasing the full recorded works [in] chronological order. It's not a project for the faint-hearted."

The US musician became a fan of country and pre-war blues after being introduced to the genre as a teenager, thanks to a clutch of Document Records releases.

"I had been looking for Blues records when I was a teenager and the older ones seemed to have been kinda swallowed up," he explained to 6 Music's Elizabeth Alker.

"They were few and far between and the 78s were non-existent."

"At one point in Detroit a whole Blues collection was dropped off at this vintage record store, so that's when I first bought a whole batch of Document records - Tommy Johnson, Ishman Bracey, Roosevelt Sykes… I'd never seen those records on vinyl before."

White believes the importance of the vast back catalogue, which includes recordings by Mississippi Blues artist Charley Patton - regarded as the founder of the Delta Blues - cannot be underestimated.

"It's this amazing time period where lots of different things came together," he said.

"The Depression's hitting, newly-started record companies are trying to sell records to urban people, and then they decided 'Why don't we sell records to black people in the south too? We need to record the music that they like'.

"So they brought a lot of these Blues musicians up to Chicago and Wisconsin to record and they were recording the first moments of modern music.

"This was the first time in history that a single person was writing a song about themselves and speaking to the world by themselves. A man with a guitar or a woman singing by herself a cappella.

"A lot of these records were just ignored once more popular music came along in the '40s. The Big Band era started and the war started and people kinda forgot about a lot of these Blues musicians.

"Those musicians had become janitors, going back to farming, and [the record companies] had to go down to see if they could still discover these people."

White admitted some of the material was an acquired taste, which even he had difficulty warming to initially.

"When I first heard Charley Patton I didn't like it - I didn't like it 'til the third time I listened to it and then it just exploded for me and I'm in love with the man and everything he wrote.

"So it's a harder sell if you're trying to run a record company that wants to turn a profit

"At Third Man Records, we don't really care. We just want to create things that we want to see exist and if it breaks even, we're lucky - if not, it doesn't really matter."

All of the recordings will be re-released on remastered vinyl, with White adding: "I think it's the most reverential format because you're very involved, you're dropping the needle yourself, you're part of the mechanics of the music.

"When we pop this iPod on we don't really see any moving parts, so it's not very romantic to us, it just becomes a machine, like a microwave or something. You don't really know why it's working, you just know when the food's hot."

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21352483
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So he wants to get this music into wide release and expose more people to it, but he's going to put it on vinyl where maybe a couple thousand folks at best will ever hear it versus making them MP3s and having a MUCH larger audience as well as exposing the younger demographic as well. Makes sense.
 
Even if it never sees a digital release, people will transfer it. I get and like why he's doing it vinyl only. Anybody who wants to hear it can get it.

 
Jack White is great and all, but I don't understand the fascination about labelling any musician, or any artist really, as the objective "best" when music is immensely subjective. Not everything has to be a competition.

 
'Time Kibitzer said:
Jack White is great and all, but I don't understand the fascination about labelling any musician, or any artist really, as the objective "best" when music is immensely subjective. Not everything has to be a competition.
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:thumbup: Best post in this thread.
 
'Chaka said:
'Seymour Corn said:
I just watched 'It Might Get Loud', and I think he makes Page and Edge look like pikers.
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He might currently have more skill than a 67 year old Jimmy Page but come on. White still has a ways to go to be on the same plane as Page.
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I saw that and agree. Page still held his own but White DESTROYED the Edge imo. I was just outside the ring under the claw for U2's last show and honestly I was not at all impressed with him live either.
 
'tom22406 said:
'ffldrew said:
The guy on guitar here is probably the most talented in my opinion - Derek Trucks and his wife is not that far behind - in fact this is the most talented BAND out there today - IMO of coursehttp://youtu.be/-wVWjl9Kq6U - maybe one of the most perfect songs aroundAlso catch this one - Angel from Montgomery/Sugareehttp://youtu.be/ZrSK-0-MQ8sThe you tube comment is awesome"If Jesus played guitar he'd take lessons from Derek Trucks"Thankfully God saw it fit to say that Duane's time on this earth was too short and he instilled that talent and drive into Derek so we could enjoy it- it's spooky - real spooky.
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:goodposting: This guy gets it.Midnight in Harlem is a fantastic song :thumbup:
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It's like you were following me around and quoting me. I have been absolutely obsessed with this song and have said it's the perfect song. My mom and dad winter in Florida and I sent them tickets to the sunshine blues festival just to see them. The Derek/Duane thing is uncanny. Both complete masters of the slide. The casual music fan probably thinks of the Allman Brothers as washed up but between Derek and Warren Haynes I think they have the two baddest guitar players on the planet RIGHT NOW. I give Warren Haynes the slight edge because of his vocals and DT's lack of vocals. That being said I would like to throw out Tom Morello as well.
 
'Uruk-Hai said:
'Apple Jack said:
'wikkidpissah said:
'Apple Jack said:
As worded the answer is absolutely not. As a musician, he's average at best among professionals. What he is is a great artist, with a clear vision for what he wants. The early White Stripes shows were unholy in how vicious he managed to be with the combination of his tones and performance. It was jaw on the floor stuff.And the idea that he overshadowed the Edge and Page in This Might Get Loud is silly. All three do remarkably different things, though Jack has definitely bitten hard from the Zep aesthetic.
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You realize we're tiring of you as the aesthete-in-residence, do you not? Have you no other way than lecture to express your abiding love of music?
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Sorry..."in my opinion." Better?And if you think you don't do the same thing, you're mistaken. You're just so obtuse in your delivery half the time that people don't have any idea what you're saying.
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Hi guys! I'm here for the Pretention-Off!
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:lol:Warren Haynes, Win Butler, and T. Yorke are all great.
 
'Jewell said:
'Time Kibitzer said:
Jack White is great and all, but I don't understand the fascination about labelling any musician, or any artist really, as the objective "best" when music is immensely subjective. Not everything has to be a competition.
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:thumbup: Best post in this thread.
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Time Kibitzer is great and all, but I don't understand the fascination about labelling any post or poster as the objective "best" when it is immensely subjective. Not everything has to be a competition.
 
I had the good fortune to make my first Jack White show a couple months and it was fantastic.

I also saw him in the rockumentary "It Might Get Loud" with Jimmy Page and David Evans (ie The Edge), and he came across as a genuine guy from a tough background who had come a long way and seemed like a very decent guy.

So, always enjoyed his stuff but have never bought his music or his bands'. Anyone have any recommendations from the discography, maybe 2-3 I should start with?

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
I had the good fortune to make my first Jack White show a couple months and it was fantastic.

I also saw him in the rockumentary "It Might Get Loud" with Jimmy Page and David Evans (ie The Edge), and he came across as a genuine guy from a tough background who had come a long way and seemed like a very decent guy.

So, always enjoyed his stuff but have never bought his music or his bands'. Anyone have any recommendations from the discography, maybe 2-3 I should start with?
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The White Stripes - White Blood Cells

The White Stripes - Elephant

The White Stripes - De Stijl/The White Stripes

That should flesh it out a bit, IMO.

 
Jack is awesome. The musician, not the poster. The poster is a pretentious blowhard who makes the wrong points in the wrong threads at the wrong times. The musician is a true artist and a brilliant song maker. Love his stuff.

 
Don't listen to some of these guys.

All the White Stripes albums are great, including Get Behind Me Satan. And each is distinct.

I recommend you listen to them in chronological order, and listen to each at least 5 times before moving onto the next.

Next, move on to the two solo albums.

Finally, check out the Raconteurs and Dead Weather stuff.

Also, listen to some live stuff on YouTube and watch the DVDs Under Blackpool Lights and Under Great Northern Lights.

One of the things I've always admired and respected is White's insistence on making his live versions of songs so different than the studio version.

Enjoy, you will get addicted, as many of us have.

 
Jayrod said:
Jack is awesome. The musician, not the poster. The poster is a pretentious blowhard who makes the wrong points in the wrong threads at the wrong times. The musician is a true artist and a brilliant song maker. Love his stuff.
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Ouch. We're still friends tho right?

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
I had the good fortune to make my first Jack White show a couple months and it was fantastic.

I also saw him in the rockumentary "It Might Get Loud" with Jimmy Page and David Evans (ie The Edge), and he came across as a genuine guy from a tough background who had come a long way and seemed like a very decent guy.

So, always enjoyed his stuff but have never bought his music or his bands'. Anyone have any recommendations from the discography, maybe 2-3 I should start with?
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I love White and have seen him twice. I like Lazzaretto better the Blundetbus. But both are good. The WS catalogue is awesome start to finish. My go to when I need to hear something to pick me up is The Rancontours Broken Boy Soldier. He did a blistering version of Steady as she goes in Toronto when I saw him last

He is best live, and never had a set list. He just goes off the crowd

 
Parmcat said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
I had the good fortune to make my first Jack White show a couple months and it was fantastic.

I also saw him in the rockumentary "It Might Get Loud" with Jimmy Page and David Evans (ie The Edge), and he came across as a genuine guy from a tough background who had come a long way and seemed like a very decent guy.

So, always enjoyed his stuff but have never bought his music or his bands'. Anyone have any recommendations from the discography, maybe 2-3 I should start with?
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I love White and have seen him twice. I like Lazzaretto better the Blundetbus. But both are good. The WS catalogue is awesome start to finish. My go to when I need to hear something to pick me up is The Rancontours Broken Boy Soldier. He did a blistering version of Steady as she goes in Toronto when I saw him last

He is best live, and never had a set list. He just goes off the crowd
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Alright, I gotta get a hold of Lazzaretto asap. Haven't bought an album in years, but maybe now is the time. Blunderbus was incredible.

 
General Malaise said:
Parmcat said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
I had the good fortune to make my first Jack White show a couple months and it was fantastic.

I also saw him in the rockumentary "It Might Get Loud" with Jimmy Page and David Evans (ie The Edge), and he came across as a genuine guy from a tough background who had come a long way and seemed like a very decent guy.

So, always enjoyed his stuff but have never bought his music or his bands'. Anyone have any recommendations from the discography, maybe 2-3 I should start with?
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I love White and have seen him twice. I like Lazzaretto better the Blundetbus. But both are good. The WS catalogue is awesome start to finish. My go to when I need to hear something to pick me up is The Rancontours Broken Boy Soldier. He did a blistering version of Steady as she goes in Toronto when I saw him last

He is best live, and never had a set list. He just goes off the crowd
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Alright, I gotta get a hold of Lazzaretto asap. Haven't bought an album in years, but maybe now is the time. Blunderbus was incredible.
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I like Blunderbuss more, but that might be only because I"ve heard it more. His material does tend to get even better the more you listen to it.

 
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