No Louis Murhpy and no Zack Miller and eventually Schillens comes back. He could be good, but I wouldn't bet on him for this year.How many of his catches came against Flowers, I only saw the two big highlights? That's pretty impressive, although it has the feel of a Gettis type performance just because Raiders QB's can't be trusted - and there was no Z Miller.
He looked sick on the kick return and made several amazing grabs during the game. It had a break out player feel to it. Dare I remind, his forty time was very impressive at the combine last year. But this little guy is more than just a track star. He can actually play football.I don't know who Al Davis hired to do scouting the last three years but their recent drafts have been very solid (excluding Jamucous and DHB of course). Jacoby Ford looks like another steal for the Raiders. He looks like much more of a play maker than DHB at this point.How many of his catches came against Flowers, I only saw the two big highlights? That's pretty impressive, although it has the feel of a Gettis type performance just because Raiders QB's can't be trusted - and there was no Z Miller.
I've got him in my dynasty, but I'm a Clemson homer.Just dropped no-GL looks Donald Brown for Jacoby 2.0If he doesnt do anything the next couple weeks, then on to the next one. No. Big. Deal.ETA: In what way was he a sleeper? Certainly nobody drafted this guy in FF
Two leagues (dynasty of course).Just dropped no-GL looks Donald Brown for Jacoby 2.0![]()
If he doesnt do anything the next couple weeks, then on to the next one. No. Big. Deal.
ETA: In what way was he a sleeper? Certainly nobody drafted this guy in FF
DHB had 5 targets and zero catches. I didn't watch the game, but I doubt all of those were Campbell's fault. DHB still hasn't stepped up on a regular basis so I wonder if they will give Ford more shots going forward. Murphy and Miller are legit targets though, so once they come back Ford's upside will be limited.Murphy, DHB, Miller, McFadden, all are ahead of him in the passing game, but this guy seems to have been the biggest playmaker at the WR spot all season long. Beating Flowers like he did is no small trick.
The Austin analogy is really bad. They are built totally different. And Austin had been in the league a while--whereas Ford is a rookie. The league is full of guys who had one big game due to opportunity.I just watched the highlights of Ford on NFL Rewind. Not to overstate this, but he gives me the feeling of Miles Austin from last year. I'm not predicting Ausin-like results, but what got me was the versatility AND big play ability. He impressed on cross routes, out routes to the sideline, deep plays, and made some impressive grabs. Then you factor in: - his 90+ yard kick return TD- he caught the pass that setup up the FG to send it to OT- he caught the 50 yard pass that setup the winning FG in OTYou think the Raiders are going to let this star in the making get buried behind "always injured" guys like Shillens? Or collasal busts like Heyward-Bey? No way. I see this kid starting opposite Murphy and along with Zack Miller, in what is a suddenly much more solid receiving corps.Add this to it and it's sounding legit: "Ford posted a 4.28-second 40-yard dash speed, the second fastest since 2000 and the fastest by a wide receiver since Jerome Mathis in 2005."
I didn't compare their height or claim that they are built similarly. I only mention Austin because I picked him up after his one big game last year and I see the same *versatility* in Ford. He's good at all facets of the game and showed that. You're right - there are a lot of one-hit wonders. However, I remember arguing that Austin was the real deal with a bunch of posters on this board last year. They continued to contend that he was a fluke. I'm arguing that Ford won't be a fluke, but feel free to bet the opposing angle.The Austin analogy is really bad. They are built totally different. And Austin had been in the league a while--whereas Ford is a rookie. The league is full of guys who had one big game due to opportunity.I just watched the highlights of Ford on NFL Rewind. Not to overstate this, but he gives me the feeling of Miles Austin from last year. I'm not predicting Ausin-like results, but what got me was the versatility AND big play ability. He impressed on cross routes, out routes to the sideline, deep plays, and made some impressive grabs. Then you factor in: - his 90+ yard kick return TD- he caught the pass that setup up the FG to send it to OT- he caught the 50 yard pass that setup the winning FG in OTYou think the Raiders are going to let this star in the making get buried behind "always injured" guys like Shillens? Or collasal busts like Heyward-Bey? No way. I see this kid starting opposite Murphy and along with Zack Miller, in what is a suddenly much more solid receiving corps.Add this to it and it's sounding legit: "Ford posted a 4.28-second 40-yard dash speed, the second fastest since 2000 and the fastest by a wide receiver since Jerome Mathis in 2005."
Exactly what I was thinking from watching. He can do it all, has insane speed, has great hands. That's a rare rookie package. He doesn't have Hayward-Bey's size, but hands and route running are MUCH more important than size in the NFL. I think he will be tough to keep out of the lineup in Oakland from here on out. Most importantly, he made Campbell look GOOD. When you do that, you're a must-start WR for a NFL team.Aside from the big plays he made, he also made an impressive grab on the sideline keeping his feet in. He went over the middle, deep, sideline, fought for the ball...very impressive.
Therein lies the problem.that catch he made at the end of the game to take the ball away from the DB showed intuition and athleticism that you just can't teach. the Raiders would be wise to keep him on the field.
Exactly. You don't want to be late on a guy. If you're early? He's droppable 1-2 weeks later is all. I am struggling though with him vs. James Jones, a much more sure thing. Both have a BYE week coming as well which makes it worse.Well, he has speed, and Al Davis love speed. *James Jett* This does remind me a little of Miles Austin just in the sense that I didn't see yesterday's game just like I didn't see Miles Austin's breakout game. With Austin, league-mates that chase box scores jumped on him right away. The next week when I got to really watch him play I started saying words that this board will filter out b/c I knew he looked like the real deal.
One was McFadden's fault.DHB had 5 targets and zero catches. I didn't watch the game, but I doubt all of those were Campbell's fault.Murphy, DHB, Miller, McFadden, all are ahead of him in the passing game, but this guy seems to have been the biggest playmaker at the WR spot all season long. Beating Flowers like he did is no small trick.
While you can drop him in a week or two, for those with budgets, how much do you blow? For those with wire orders, is he worth a top spot on the WW when there is still a long way to go in the season (and a lot of RBs that could go down, leading to instant gems in their backups)Exactly. You don't want to be late on a guy. If you're early? He's droppable 1-2 weeks later is all. I am struggling though with him vs. James Jones, a much more sure thing. Both have a BYE week coming as well which makes it worse.Well, he has speed, and Al Davis love speed. *James Jett* This does remind me a little of Miles Austin just in the sense that I didn't see yesterday's game just like I didn't see Miles Austin's breakout game. With Austin, league-mates that chase box scores jumped on him right away. The next week when I got to really watch him play I started saying words that this board will filter out b/c I knew he looked like the real deal.
Hehehe. In that case he reminds me exactly of Miles Austin too.This does remind me a little of Miles Austin just in the sense that I didn't see yesterday's game just like I didn't see Miles Austin's breakout game.
This post is on the money. DHB will get his time to mature but if he doesn't, I really see this kid making a jump to the #2-3 wr spot. But dhb will be given all of this year and more unless he really screws up. He was drafted too highI just watched the highlights of Ford on NFL Rewind. Not to overstate this, but he gives me the feeling of Miles Austin from last year. I'm not predicting Ausin-like results, but what got me was the versatility AND big play ability. He impressed on cross routes, out routes to the sideline, deep plays, and made some impressive grabs. Then you factor in: - his 90+ yard kick return TD- he caught the pass that setup up the FG to send it to OT- he caught the 50 yard pass that setup the winning FG in OTYou think the Raiders are going to let this star in the making get buried behind "always injured" guys like Shillens? Or collasal busts like Heyward-Bey? No way. I see this kid starting opposite Murphy and along with Zack Miller, in what is a suddenly much more solid receiving corps.Add this to it and it's sounding legit: "Ford posted a 4.28-second 40-yard dash speed, the second fastest since 2000 and the fastest by a wide receiver since Jerome Mathis in 2005."
Raiders homers probably could inform you best on this. I don't follow the rest of the WRs enough. I did own Murphy earlier this year and I was never as "wowed" by Murphy. From what I've seen of Hayward-Bey, he's SOOO inconsistent. He'll perform one week (albeit on a 4 receptions from 12 targets line), then totally disappear. There's no doubt in my mind that this kid is better than DHB. The key for me is whether or not this kid will get enough opportunities this year (redraft). Tough call for you in dynasty. The year is wearing on, and you have to wonder who might emerge. At the same time, the longer you hang on to that #1 waiver order position the more guys that will just slip past you.14 team dynasty with deep rosters and minimal decent players week to week on the WW. I've saved my #1 all year, is this guy worth the pick up or should I hold out and wait for a potential stud?
How about dynasty-wise?I think it had the feel of a breakout, but not in a fantasy way, just in a "this kid might be something" way.I am more intrigued as a Raider fan, that it looks like this kid might not just be a fast returner. I mean, he won that game yesterday. As much as any player can win a game by himself in this sport, Ford did yesterday. Returned 2nd half opening kickoff for a TD, jump-starting a team that looked terrible in the first half, and made three really tough catches, that all extended scoring drives, one of which essentially ended the game. He's a small guy, but looked quicker and shiftier than we were led to believe (pre-draft scouting said he didn't play to his speed, was more straight-line than functional).But fantasy-wise? I doubt it.
Here's a good discussion with plenty of opinions:http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=569066One week stud or super sleeper? I don't know anything about him.
Here's a good discussion with plenty of opinions:http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=569066One week stud or super sleeper? I don't know anything about him.
Here's a good discussion with plenty of opinions:http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=569066One week stud or super sleeper? I don't know anything about him.![]()
Man, half the cap?!He went for $10, 22, and 51 in my 3 blind bid dynasties. $100 budget
I grabbed him @ $33, put in a high bid because I had most of my BB$$ still left and felt he was worth a gamble to stash. In another he went for $24.He went for $10, 22, and 51 in my 3 blind bid dynasties. $100 budget