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Jacoby Ford (1 Viewer)

Ya never know. Could be a flash in the pan or could be the key to some fantasy playoffs. Worth a pick up in any event.

 
Just dropped no-GL looks Donald Brown for Jacoby 2.0 :thumbup:

If he doesnt do anything the next couple weeks, then on to the next one. No. Big. Deal.

ETA: In what way was he a sleeper? Certainly nobody drafted this guy in FF

 
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How many of his catches came against Flowers, I only saw the two big highlights? That's pretty impressive, although it has the feel of a Gettis type performance just because Raiders QB's can't be trusted - and there was no Z Miller.

 
How many of his catches came against Flowers, I only saw the two big highlights? That's pretty impressive, although it has the feel of a Gettis type performance just because Raiders QB's can't be trusted - and there was no Z Miller.
No Louis Murhpy and no Zack Miller and eventually Schillens comes back. He could be good, but I wouldn't bet on him for this year.
 
A couple of the catches he made were ridiculous, including a clutch grab late when he went kind of around and over the top of the defender and basically took the ball away, adjusted, and turned upfield and picked up extra yards. I can't remember the other one I'm thinking of because I've been drinking, but rest assured the degree of difficulty was also very high.

 
How many of his catches came against Flowers, I only saw the two big highlights? That's pretty impressive, although it has the feel of a Gettis type performance just because Raiders QB's can't be trusted - and there was no Z Miller.
He looked sick on the kick return and made several amazing grabs during the game. It had a break out player feel to it. Dare I remind, his forty time was very impressive at the combine last year. But this little guy is more than just a track star. He can actually play football.I don't know who Al Davis hired to do scouting the last three years but their recent drafts have been very solid (excluding Jamucous and DHB of course). Jacoby Ford looks like another steal for the Raiders. He looks like much more of a play maker than DHB at this point.
 
Although I didn't like the fact he played at Clemson, he had tremendous hands when he played for the Tigers. You could see those hands today. That catch referenced above was ridiculous. Now, everyone expects him to sit when Murphy comes back, but the kid has real talent and serious speed. I think they'll find a way to get him on the field. He may not be the star like he was today, but I think he'll be at least a little more relevant going forward. I picked him up in my keeper.

 
Just dropped no-GL looks Donald Brown for Jacoby 2.0 :thumbup:If he doesnt do anything the next couple weeks, then on to the next one. No. Big. Deal.ETA: In what way was he a sleeper? Certainly nobody drafted this guy in FF
I've got him in my dynasty, but I'm a Clemson homer.
 
Wondering how much Ford gets added over this week.

Murphy, DHB, Miller, McFadden, all are ahead of him in the passing game, but this guy seems to have been the biggest playmaker at the WR spot all season long. Beating Flowers like he did is no small trick.

 
I just watched the highlights of Ford on NFL Rewind. Not to overstate this, but he gives me the feeling of Miles Austin from last year. I'm not predicting Ausin-like results, but what got me was the versatility AND big play ability. He impressed on cross routes, out routes to the sideline, deep plays, and made some impressive grabs.

Then you factor in:

- his 90+ yard kick return TD

- he caught the pass that setup up the FG to send it to OT

- he caught the 50 yard pass that setup the winning FG in OT

You think the Raiders are going to let this star in the making get buried behind "always injured" guys like Shillens? Or collasal busts like Heyward-Bey? No way. I see this kid starting opposite Murphy and along with Zack Miller, in what is a suddenly much more solid receiving corps.

Add this to it and it's sounding legit:

"Ford posted a 4.28-second 40-yard dash speed, the second fastest since 2000 and the fastest by a wide receiver since Jerome Mathis in 2005."

 
Murphy, DHB, Miller, McFadden, all are ahead of him in the passing game, but this guy seems to have been the biggest playmaker at the WR spot all season long. Beating Flowers like he did is no small trick.
DHB had 5 targets and zero catches. I didn't watch the game, but I doubt all of those were Campbell's fault. DHB still hasn't stepped up on a regular basis so I wonder if they will give Ford more shots going forward. Murphy and Miller are legit targets though, so once they come back Ford's upside will be limited.
 
He looked fast and appeared to have great hands etc. but the thing that stood out for me about this kid is he has balls. Something the Raiders WRs have been lacking of late. He made his QB look good and this should certainly lead to more looks as he gains confidence.

 
I just watched the highlights of Ford on NFL Rewind. Not to overstate this, but he gives me the feeling of Miles Austin from last year. I'm not predicting Ausin-like results, but what got me was the versatility AND big play ability. He impressed on cross routes, out routes to the sideline, deep plays, and made some impressive grabs. Then you factor in: - his 90+ yard kick return TD- he caught the pass that setup up the FG to send it to OT- he caught the 50 yard pass that setup the winning FG in OTYou think the Raiders are going to let this star in the making get buried behind "always injured" guys like Shillens? Or collasal busts like Heyward-Bey? No way. I see this kid starting opposite Murphy and along with Zack Miller, in what is a suddenly much more solid receiving corps.Add this to it and it's sounding legit: "Ford posted a 4.28-second 40-yard dash speed, the second fastest since 2000 and the fastest by a wide receiver since Jerome Mathis in 2005."
The Austin analogy is really bad. They are built totally different. And Austin had been in the league a while--whereas Ford is a rookie. The league is full of guys who had one big game due to opportunity.
 
I just watched the highlights of Ford on NFL Rewind. Not to overstate this, but he gives me the feeling of Miles Austin from last year. I'm not predicting Ausin-like results, but what got me was the versatility AND big play ability. He impressed on cross routes, out routes to the sideline, deep plays, and made some impressive grabs. Then you factor in: - his 90+ yard kick return TD- he caught the pass that setup up the FG to send it to OT- he caught the 50 yard pass that setup the winning FG in OTYou think the Raiders are going to let this star in the making get buried behind "always injured" guys like Shillens? Or collasal busts like Heyward-Bey? No way. I see this kid starting opposite Murphy and along with Zack Miller, in what is a suddenly much more solid receiving corps.Add this to it and it's sounding legit: "Ford posted a 4.28-second 40-yard dash speed, the second fastest since 2000 and the fastest by a wide receiver since Jerome Mathis in 2005."
The Austin analogy is really bad. They are built totally different. And Austin had been in the league a while--whereas Ford is a rookie. The league is full of guys who had one big game due to opportunity.
I didn't compare their height or claim that they are built similarly. I only mention Austin because I picked him up after his one big game last year and I see the same *versatility* in Ford. He's good at all facets of the game and showed that. You're right - there are a lot of one-hit wonders. However, I remember arguing that Austin was the real deal with a bunch of posters on this board last year. They continued to contend that he was a fluke. I'm arguing that Ford won't be a fluke, but feel free to bet the opposing angle.
 
I thought this guy was totally underrated coming out of Clemson. His size worked against him a little bit, but it's not like there aren't any good small WRs in the league. Really I think he suffered as a result of other problems at Clemson at the QB position and offensive line.

 
Aside from the big plays he made, he also made an impressive grab on the sideline keeping his feet in. He went over the middle, deep, sideline, fought for the ball...very impressive.

 
I love the way the kid played, and I'm by no means a hater, just keep in mind that Big Al is very stubborn when it comes to his top picks, and I don't know that anybody is going to supplant DHB for another couple years. Schilens has been a huge playmaker on that team in the very limited time he's been healthy, Murphy is injured and has been by far the most consistent WR this year. Murphy is expected back after the bye, and Schilens is looking like he'll be back to playing (for a week or two, anyways) about the same time. Add all this up and decide if you think he'll have a relevant role in the next couple years. Now if you've formed your opinion, also add in that Z. Miller wasn't available yesterday either.

I fully believe this kid makes for a good option in the passing game, and has earned his spot as a returner, but I'm not getting overly excited about his value in non-return yardage leagues or anything with less than 12 teams and at least 24 roster spots.

 
Aside from the big plays he made, he also made an impressive grab on the sideline keeping his feet in. He went over the middle, deep, sideline, fought for the ball...very impressive.
Exactly what I was thinking from watching. He can do it all, has insane speed, has great hands. That's a rare rookie package. He doesn't have Hayward-Bey's size, but hands and route running are MUCH more important than size in the NFL. I think he will be tough to keep out of the lineup in Oakland from here on out. Most importantly, he made Campbell look GOOD. When you do that, you're a must-start WR for a NFL team.
 
that catch he made at the end of the game to take the ball away from the DB showed intuition and athleticism that you just can't teach. the Raiders would be wise to keep him on the field.

 
Well, he has speed, and Al Davis love speed. *James Jett*

This does remind me a little of Miles Austin just in the sense that I didn't see yesterday's game just like I didn't see Miles Austin's breakout game. With Austin, league-mates that chase box scores jumped on him right away. The next week when I got to really watch him play I started saying words that this board will filter out b/c I knew he looked like the real deal.

 
Well, he has speed, and Al Davis love speed. *James Jett* This does remind me a little of Miles Austin just in the sense that I didn't see yesterday's game just like I didn't see Miles Austin's breakout game. With Austin, league-mates that chase box scores jumped on him right away. The next week when I got to really watch him play I started saying words that this board will filter out b/c I knew he looked like the real deal.
Exactly. You don't want to be late on a guy. If you're early? He's droppable 1-2 weeks later is all. I am struggling though with him vs. James Jones, a much more sure thing. Both have a BYE week coming as well which makes it worse.
 
Murphy, DHB, Miller, McFadden, all are ahead of him in the passing game, but this guy seems to have been the biggest playmaker at the WR spot all season long. Beating Flowers like he did is no small trick.
DHB had 5 targets and zero catches. I didn't watch the game, but I doubt all of those were Campbell's fault.
One was McFadden's fault. :wolf: He threw a terrible pass out of the wildcat.Of the other four, two were pretty bad drops by DHB (including one in the end zone). The other two he got his hands on, but they would have been tough catches. They were off-target by Campbell.
 
I was very impressed with Ford. He's got track-star speed, but he looks like a real football player. He fought for a few balls in traffic. I'm picking him up in every league I can.

 
Well, he has speed, and Al Davis love speed. *James Jett* This does remind me a little of Miles Austin just in the sense that I didn't see yesterday's game just like I didn't see Miles Austin's breakout game. With Austin, league-mates that chase box scores jumped on him right away. The next week when I got to really watch him play I started saying words that this board will filter out b/c I knew he looked like the real deal.
Exactly. You don't want to be late on a guy. If you're early? He's droppable 1-2 weeks later is all. I am struggling though with him vs. James Jones, a much more sure thing. Both have a BYE week coming as well which makes it worse.
While you can drop him in a week or two, for those with budgets, how much do you blow? For those with wire orders, is he worth a top spot on the WW when there is still a long way to go in the season (and a lot of RBs that could go down, leading to instant gems in their backups)
 
I just watched the highlights of Ford on NFL Rewind. Not to overstate this, but he gives me the feeling of Miles Austin from last year. I'm not predicting Ausin-like results, but what got me was the versatility AND big play ability. He impressed on cross routes, out routes to the sideline, deep plays, and made some impressive grabs. Then you factor in: - his 90+ yard kick return TD- he caught the pass that setup up the FG to send it to OT- he caught the 50 yard pass that setup the winning FG in OTYou think the Raiders are going to let this star in the making get buried behind "always injured" guys like Shillens? Or collasal busts like Heyward-Bey? No way. I see this kid starting opposite Murphy and along with Zack Miller, in what is a suddenly much more solid receiving corps.Add this to it and it's sounding legit: "Ford posted a 4.28-second 40-yard dash speed, the second fastest since 2000 and the fastest by a wide receiver since Jerome Mathis in 2005."
This post is on the money. DHB will get his time to mature but if he doesn't, I really see this kid making a jump to the #2-3 wr spot. But dhb will be given all of this year and more unless he really screws up. He was drafted too high
 
14 team dynasty with deep rosters and minimal decent players week to week on the WW.

I've saved my #1 all year, is this guy worth the pick up or should I hold out and wait for a potential stud?

 
14 team dynasty with deep rosters and minimal decent players week to week on the WW. I've saved my #1 all year, is this guy worth the pick up or should I hold out and wait for a potential stud?
Raiders homers probably could inform you best on this. I don't follow the rest of the WRs enough. I did own Murphy earlier this year and I was never as "wowed" by Murphy. From what I've seen of Hayward-Bey, he's SOOO inconsistent. He'll perform one week (albeit on a 4 receptions from 12 targets line), then totally disappear. There's no doubt in my mind that this kid is better than DHB. The key for me is whether or not this kid will get enough opportunities this year (redraft). Tough call for you in dynasty. The year is wearing on, and you have to wonder who might emerge. At the same time, the longer you hang on to that #1 waiver order position the more guys that will just slip past you.
 
Posting some articles on Ford:

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2010...hers-could-not/

* Quick add on Ford: He was the best player on the field. I mention in the column that the Raiders haven’t had a guy consistently making big plays in years and years… but when’s the last time their guy made all the plays and the other team’s big guys didn’t?

How many times have the Raiders had this done to them over the years–by Tomlinson, Plummer, Gates, Brees, Tony Gonzalez or whoever?

Today, KC’s Dwayne Bowe dropped the pass that could’ve run out the clock for the Chiefs. Matt Cassel threw the INT at the end of the first half that gave the Raiders life.

And the Raiders had Ford, making play after play. More plays than Randy Moss made in his entire Raiders career. More than Javon Walker (forgot about him in the column!) made, obviously.

More than anybody since the Tim Brown/Jerry Rice tandem. This was only one game of Ford, and who knows if he’ll keep it up, but it tells you about the Raiders’ offense since 2003… that this one game is so clearly superior to almost anything any other Raiders offensive player has come up with in a game of this magnitude.

The game was up for grabs and, unlike so many lackluster Raiders of the recent past, Jacoby Ford went out and snared it.

Again and again and again.

“You know, the ball just kept coming to me,” Ford said after the Raiders’ 23-20 overtime victory over Kansas City, “and I was out there just making plays.”

Somebody making plays? In a big game? Possibly with the fate of the season tilting back and forth every few minutes?

This has been a lost art for the Raiders since 2002, and that’s why Ford’s repeated bolts out of the blue on Sunday were so meaningful.

For a day at least, this diminutive, speed-burning rookie fourth-round pick out of Clemson was everything Al Davis hoped and believed Randy Moss would be, or Jerry Porter or even Darrius Heyward-Bey.

From his 94-yard kickoff return for a touchdown that brought the Raiders back to life to open the second half, to his series of acrobatic receptions to set up more scores, Ford was the Raiders’ lifeboat Sunday.

And, after producing no offense in the first half, man oh man did they need a lifeboat.

“I love him,” defensive tackle Tommy Kelly said of Ford. “I told him I would give him anything he wanted right now. Two big catches and that kickoff return. He came up huge. Huge.”

Without Ford, the Raiders don’t win this game, don’t go over .500 for the first time since early 2003 and don’t jump into the AFC playoff race.

Without Ford, the Raiders have to explain why they messed up their biggest regular-season game in seven years. Without Ford, Jason Campbell hears boos all game, instead of just the first half.

Here’s how coach Tom Cable summed up Campbell’s day: “Frustrating, kind of ugly, frustrating and then really something.”

Without Ford, it would’ve just been ugly and frustrating.

The Raiders, who trailed 10-0 at halftime and probably should’ve been down by 10 or 13 more, could’ve gone bad again.

But Sunday, they had Ford, who can outrun everybody (an NCAA champion sprinter, much to Davis’ delight), though it was a question until Sunday whether he actually was a football player.

Well, turns out, he is. Go figure that.

“It just all comes from Jason believing in me,” Ford said, “and I think he did today.”

It didn’t start that way — in the middle of Campbell’s first-half struggles, Campbell hit Ford in stride deep over the middle, but Ford dropped the ball.

But then Ford — who did not have a catch in the first half — hit that hole on the kickoff return, and that changed everything.

“I just had to read one block, and I just took off from there,” Ford said.

Early in the fourth quarter, Campbell spun away from pressure, scrambled to his right then heaved a deep lob toward Ford.

The defensive back fell, the 5-foot-10 Ford went up and grabbed the pass, and suddenly the Raiders had a 37-yard gain to the Chiefs’ 7-yard line to set up a Sebastian Janikowski field goal.

That was the play, Campbell said, that cemented his confidence in Ford. So he kept throwing it to him.

Under even more pressing circumstances, trailing by three in the final minute, Ford literally took a pass right out of the hands of the Chiefs’ Brandon Flowers for a 29-yard gain. That set up Janikowski’s tying field goal, sending the game to OT.

Then, on the Raiders’ first play in OT, Ford ripped past Flowers, ran under Campbell’s rainbow toss, and immediately put the Raiders in field-goal range with a 47-yard thing of beauty.

“I was excited to see Jacoby go get that ball,” Campbell said. “It meant a lot from a quarterback standpoint. You see a guy, you put it out there for him and see him burst into another speed and go get that ball.”

Overall, Ford had six receptions for 148 yards, a yardage total that Moss, for one, never reached. Going into this game, Ford had only four total receptions for 37 yards, with a long of 13 yards.

On Sunday, he went out and grabbed this game, which no other Raider player has done in a big game for years. And remember, Ford was only getting the action because of the rash of injuries at receiver.

He might have saved Campbell, for a time. He kept the Raiders’ playoff hopes burning. He did more than expected or promised, precisely when his team needed it.

When’s the last time any Raider did that?

 
And a scout's take from ESPN:

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/...sit-jacoby-ford

Draft revisit: Jacoby Ford

November, 8, 2010

By Bill Williamson

Jacoby Ford had one of the best games by a rookie receiver ever in the NFL on Sunday as he carried Oakland to a critical 23-20 overtime win over visiting Kansas City on Sunday.

Ford became the first rookie since 1979 to return kickoff for a touchdown and have at least 100 receiving yards. Ford had six catches for 148, including two game defining catches at the end of regulation and in overtime. Ford was a fourth-round pick out of Clemson. He has gotten an opportunity as a receiver in the past three games. He had four catches in two games before breaking out Sunday.

Ford, who runs a 4.2 40-yard dash, was the fastest player at the NFL combine in Indianapolis. Prior to the draft, he was considered a good prospect because of his speed.

But there were knocks on the 5-foot-9, 185-pound player.

I caught up with Steve Muench of Scouts Inc. on Monday to discuss what he thought of Ford prior to the draft:

“I thought he was a good pick in the fourth round. There were two big knocks against him: inconsistent hands and his small size. But he also had a knack for the spectacular play and he’s such a weapon as a returner and a big-play guy because of that speed. So, I thought it was good fit for Oakland in the fourth round. I am surprised that he took over an NFL game so early in his career. He wasn’t that polished of a player in college. But, again, he has that speed and he showed it. It was really impressive because those two big plays at the end of the game, he really showed good hands. I was surprised the way Kansas City played him on those two plays. They played off him. Because of his size, he’s a type of guy you bump early and be physical with. If not, he’s going to get by you … I think down the road he will be a very good weapon for Oakland as a slot receiver. He can do a lot of damage that way.”

 
He looked very good last night, but I think his hands are somewhat suspect. Obviously he did a great job fighting for contested balls, but in the past few weeks he's dropped some balls that hit him in the hands, due to poor catching technique. (Both his targets in the 49er game, if I recall correctly). Before I anoint him the next Miles Austin, I'd like to see him consistently catching decently-thrown balls while adjusting his body.

I'm betting that "Heave it down the middle and let Ford fight for it" won't be an overall effective strategy.

Promising player, but I wouldn't expect another 100+ yard performance out of him this year with Miller and Murphy back after the bye.

 
And here's a contrarian's take on Ford:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/fa...y-an-illusion/1

Fantasy or reality: Ford's big game only an illusion

Every Monday, we examine whether what we saw over the weekend was real or a fluke:

Jacoby Ford's big game. Don't get too swept up in what Ford did on Sunday for the Raiders when he had 148 receiving yards on six catches, becoming the second player in NFL history with at least 140 receiving yards and 150 return yards. The Raiders have had a string of one-hit wonders at wide receiver, including 100-yard games from Louis Murphy and Darrius Heyward-Bey. The problem is consistency; outside of tight end Zach Miller, none of them have had it. And there is no reason to expect they will, especially if Miller and Murphy are healthy after the bye. Verdict: Fantasy.

 
I think it had the feel of a breakout, but not in a fantasy way, just in a "this kid might be something" way.

I am more intrigued as a Raider fan, that it looks like this kid might not just be a fast returner. I mean, he won that game yesterday. As much as any player can win a game by himself in this sport, Ford did yesterday. Returned 2nd half opening kickoff for a TD, jump-starting a team that looked terrible in the first half, and made three really tough catches, that all extended scoring drives, one of which essentially ended the game. He's a small guy, but looked quicker and shiftier than we were led to believe (pre-draft scouting said he didn't play to his speed, was more straight-line than functional).

But fantasy-wise? I doubt it.

 
I think it had the feel of a breakout, but not in a fantasy way, just in a "this kid might be something" way.I am more intrigued as a Raider fan, that it looks like this kid might not just be a fast returner. I mean, he won that game yesterday. As much as any player can win a game by himself in this sport, Ford did yesterday. Returned 2nd half opening kickoff for a TD, jump-starting a team that looked terrible in the first half, and made three really tough catches, that all extended scoring drives, one of which essentially ended the game. He's a small guy, but looked quicker and shiftier than we were led to believe (pre-draft scouting said he didn't play to his speed, was more straight-line than functional).But fantasy-wise? I doubt it.
How about dynasty-wise?
 
This kid could turn out to be a special player and I'm loving his potential in a dynasty league--he could be a nice breakout player either in 20100 or 2012

 

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