Jake Long doesn't like the Dolphins (1 Viewer)

[Max Power]

John Czarnecki of FoxSports.com writes that "the word on the street" is that Jake Long doesn't want to play for the Dolphins.

As usual, Czar buries this big story as a casual aside. This could be a negotiating ploy (Long doesn't need to be the first pick, he can wait), but it's interesting nonetheless. Czar hears that the next name on Miami's list is not Chris Long. Apr. 15 - 1:37 pm et

Sorry if a Honda...

 

[BeTheMatch]

I think Schefter said Gholston was second on their list.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

whats not to like?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

There's been a lot of speculation about this.

I believe in the stories that the Dolphins are trying to sign one of the guys that aren't considered to be the #1 overall guy with the line being "We'll pay you more than you'll get at the #5, but less than we're going to have to pay Chris Long. So how does that sound?"

 

[Max Power]

whats not to like?

The Heat

 

[softball]

Silly,

His agents are just posturing because the Fins' opened negotiations with Vernon Gholston at the same time (which is under reported).

He'll sign, there isn't another spot the Fins' need more help, and get more help at.

South Beach won't hurt negotiations either...he could always end up in a hot spot like St. Louis.

 

[Zoomanji]

whats not to like?

The Heat

No Major League Baseball?

 

[brock]

whats not to like?

The Heat

No Major League Baseball?

little cuba

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

whats not to like?

Is that really your team in your Sig? Don't your kickers and Def's have the same bye weeks?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

whats not to like?

Is that really your team in your Sig? Don't your kickers and Def's have the same bye weeks?

 

[zamboni]

I don't like the Dolphins either, but you don't hear me whining about a multi-million dollar payday.

 

[Horses Mouth]

Don't forget that here in Florida there is no state income tax which could be a factor in to a contract. take less on paper might not really mean less take home pay.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Wasn't there a Michigan OLineman who just left the program for a "lack of Family Values" reason? Wasn't that code for being worked too hard by a coach other than Lloyd Carr? Aren't Bill Parcells and his minions known for working players hard and having a distinct lack of "family values"? Wasn't Jake Long a OLineman at Michigan under Carr?

Just wondering.

 

[trader jake]

whats not to like?

Long should talk his agent(s) into getting a deal done w/ the Dolphins.

 

[Christo]

Silly,His agents are just posturing because the Fins' opened negotiations with Vernon Gholston at the same time (which is under reported).He'll sign, there isn't another spot the Fins' need more help, and get more help at.South Beach won't hurt negotiations either...he could always end up in a hot spot like St. Louis.

Not everybody craves a scene like South Beach. Long kind of strikes me as a guy like Joe Thomas last year. Rather than being in NYC for the draft he was fishing with his father.

 

[Horses Mouth]

Silly,His agents are just posturing because the Fins' opened negotiations with Vernon Gholston at the same time (which is under reported).He'll sign, there isn't another spot the Fins' need more help, and get more help at.South Beach won't hurt negotiations either...he could always end up in a hot spot like St. Louis.

Not everybody craves a scene like South Beach. Long kind of strikes me as a guy like Joe Thomas last year. Rather than being in NYC for the draft he was fishing with his father.

there is great fishing off Miami and no state income tax either!

 

[Christo]

Silly,His agents are just posturing because the Fins' opened negotiations with Vernon Gholston at the same time (which is under reported).He'll sign, there isn't another spot the Fins' need more help, and get more help at.South Beach won't hurt negotiations either...he could always end up in a hot spot like St. Louis.

Not everybody craves a scene like South Beach. Long kind of strikes me as a guy like Joe Thomas last year. Rather than being in NYC for the draft he was fishing with his father.

there is great fishing off Miami and no state income tax either!

While it may be nice for part of their salary, the players still have to pay state income tax for games outside FLA.

 

[bcr8f]

I don't like the Dolphins either, but you don't hear me whining about a multi-million dollar payday.

You don't hear Long whining. All you see is Fox spreading gossip. Is it true?

 

[Horses Mouth]

Silly,His agents are just posturing because the Fins' opened negotiations with Vernon Gholston at the same time (which is under reported).He'll sign, there isn't another spot the Fins' need more help, and get more help at.South Beach won't hurt negotiations either...he could always end up in a hot spot like St. Louis.

Not everybody craves a scene like South Beach. Long kind of strikes me as a guy like Joe Thomas last year. Rather than being in NYC for the draft he was fishing with his father.

there is great fishing off Miami and no state income tax either!

While it may be nice for part of their salary, the players still have to pay state income tax for games outside FLA.

they do? i thought that the Dolphins who cut their salaries are FL based then why would they have to pay outside of FL? that's like me getting paid by my company here in FL and then going to GA to ink a deal and then paying GA state income tax. aren't they salaried employees?

 

[Christo]

Silly,

His agents are just posturing because the Fins' opened negotiations with Vernon Gholston at the same time (which is under reported).

He'll sign, there isn't another spot the Fins' need more help, and get more help at.

South Beach won't hurt negotiations either...he could always end up in a hot spot like St. Louis.

Not everybody craves a scene like South Beach. Long kind of strikes me as a guy like Joe Thomas last year. Rather than being in NYC for the draft he was fishing with his father.

there is great fishing off Miami and no state income tax either!

While it may be nice for part of their salary, the players still have to pay state income tax for games outside FLA.

they do? i thought that the Dolphins who cut their salaries are FL based then why would they have to pay outside of FL? that's like me getting paid by my company here in FL and then going to GA to ink a deal and then paying GA state income tax. aren't they salaried employees?

In fact, states with nonresident income taxes treat players on visiting teams like workers in those states — every time the team visits. Given the combinations and permutations of league and interleague play, a player might have to file returns in more than a dozen states, and in Canada, too. Team players in other sports, like football, basketball and hockey, and even professional tennis and golf players, are treated the same way. So are entertainers and anyone else whose work life follows a similar pattern.

. . .

Doing so is in an athlete’s interest, because the amounts involved are far from chump change. A $20-million-a-year Boston Red Sox superstar who plays nine games at Yankee Stadium, for instance, might owe in the vicinity of $60,000 in New York State tax.

NYT

 

[softball]

Silly,His agents are just posturing because the Fins' opened negotiations with Vernon Gholston at the same time (which is under reported).He'll sign, there isn't another spot the Fins' need more help, and get more help at.South Beach won't hurt negotiations either...he could always end up in a hot spot like St. Louis.

Not everybody craves a scene like South Beach. Long kind of strikes me as a guy like Joe Thomas last year. Rather than being in NYC for the draft he was fishing with his father.

there is great fishing off Miami and no state income tax either!

While it may be nice for part of their salary, the players still have to pay state income tax for games outside FLA.

I was just kidding about the South Beach part. Sorry.The real point is this is just posturing by his agents. BP cracked them by adding Vernon Gholston onto the negotiations and the Long camp is cracking back with "he doesn't like it" rumor.

 

[*****]

Silly,His agents are just posturing because the Fins' opened negotiations with Vernon Gholston at the same time (which is under reported).He'll sign, there isn't another spot the Fins' need more help, and get more help at.South Beach won't hurt negotiations either...he could always end up in a hot spot like St. Louis.

Not everybody craves a scene like South Beach. Long kind of strikes me as a guy like Joe Thomas last year. Rather than being in NYC for the draft he was fishing with his father.

there is great fishing off Miami and no state income tax either!

While it may be nice for part of their salary, the players still have to pay state income tax for games outside FLA.

they do? i thought that the Dolphins who cut their salaries are FL based then why would they have to pay outside of FL? that's like me getting paid by my company here in FL and then going to GA to ink a deal and then paying GA state income tax. aren't they salaried employees?

I have a friend who plays pro baseball and he has to pay state income tax in every state and Canadian province he plays. If he plays 12 games in California, then he pays state income tax on what he was paid for those twelve games. Same with every other state or province. Of course, Long being in Miami would be good for half his salary and his bonuses.

 

[Christo]

Silly,His agents are just posturing because the Fins' opened negotiations with Vernon Gholston at the same time (which is under reported).He'll sign, there isn't another spot the Fins' need more help, and get more help at.South Beach won't hurt negotiations either...he could always end up in a hot spot like St. Louis.

Not everybody craves a scene like South Beach. Long kind of strikes me as a guy like Joe Thomas last year. Rather than being in NYC for the draft he was fishing with his father.

there is great fishing off Miami and no state income tax either!

While it may be nice for part of their salary, the players still have to pay state income tax for games outside FLA.

I was just kidding about the South Beach part. Sorry.

No reason to be sorry. I don't doubt that it would be seen as a plus to some players.

 

[BearsFan]

He know's he'd be lost in the 3-4

 

[Christo]

He know's he'd be lost in the 3-4

I'm sure most OTs would be.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

Silly,His agents are just posturing because the Fins' opened negotiations with Vernon Gholston at the same time (which is under reported).He'll sign, there isn't another spot the Fins' need more help, and get more help at.South Beach won't hurt negotiations either...he could always end up in a hot spot like St. Louis.

Not everybody craves a scene like South Beach. Long kind of strikes me as a guy like Joe Thomas last year. Rather than being in NYC for the draft he was fishing with his father.

there is great fishing off Miami and no state income tax either!

While it may be nice for part of their salary, the players still have to pay state income tax for games outside FLA.

they do? i thought that the Dolphins who cut their salaries are FL based then why would they have to pay outside of FL? that's like me getting paid by my company here in FL and then going to GA to ink a deal and then paying GA state income tax. aren't they salaried employees?

I have a friend who plays pro baseball and he has to pay state income tax in every state and Canadian province he plays. If he plays 12 games in California, then he pays state income tax on what he was paid for those twelve games. Same with every other state or province. Of course, Long being in Miami would be good for half his salary and his bonuses.

I wonder if you can write a contract that pays you double for home games but nothing for away. I know that when I got sent out of town for short assignments, i wasnt required to pay taxes in those states.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

He know's he'd be lost in the 3-4

I'm sure most OTs would be.

 

[Marc Levin]

Silly,His agents are just posturing because the Fins' opened negotiations with Vernon Gholston at the same time (which is under reported).He'll sign, there isn't another spot the Fins' need more help, and get more help at.South Beach won't hurt negotiations either...he could always end up in a hot spot like St. Louis.

Not everybody craves a scene like South Beach. Long kind of strikes me as a guy like Joe Thomas last year. Rather than being in NYC for the draft he was fishing with his father.

there is great fishing off Miami and no state income tax either!

While it may be nice for part of their salary, the players still have to pay state income tax for games outside FLA.

they do? i thought that the Dolphins who cut their salaries are FL based then why would they have to pay outside of FL? that's like me getting paid by my company here in FL and then going to GA to ink a deal and then paying GA state income tax. aren't they salaried employees?

I have a friend who plays pro baseball and he has to pay state income tax in every state and Canadian province he plays. If he plays 12 games in California, then he pays state income tax on what he was paid for those twelve games. Same with every other state or province. Of course, Long being in Miami would be good for half his salary and his bonuses.

I wonder if you can write a contract that pays you double for home games but nothing for away. I know that when I got sent out of town for short assignments, i wasnt required to pay taxes in those states.

I'd bet it violates some term of the CBA regarding minimum salaries for playing.

 

[Bob Magaw]

j. long could be playing chicken with parcells (& maybe he already blinked )...

parcells could just be using long to gain leverage over gholston...

if parcells really likes them about the same, he could use that against long (& gholston)...

good point that if j. long thinks STL takes him at 1.2 (if not MIA at 1.1), that could give him leverage over MIA to not take a lowball contract, IF he really is their preferred contract...