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Javon Walker thinks Travis Henry will be vindicated (1 Viewer)

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Words from Javon Walker - analyze them yourself.

Walker stuck up for Henry on Friday and cautioned about reading too much into the situation. "Nobody really knows the extent of it," Walker said. "We all trust Travis. Everybody on this team supports Travis. It's funny how a lot of things get blown out of proportion before everybody really knows what happens. He'll be with us the whole year. We're going to try to finish this thing strong."

Walker thought Henry would be vindicated in the end.

"We already know what the situation is," Walker said. "That will get put out at a later day and everybody will understand."

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7300136

 
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Words from Javon Walker - analyze them yourself.

Walker stuck up for Henry on Friday and cautioned about reading too much into the situation. "Nobody really knows the extent of it," Walker said. "We all trust Travis. Everybody on this team supports Travis. It's funny how a lot of things get blown out of proportion before everybody really knows what happens. He'll be with us the whole year. We're going to try to finish this thing strong."

Walker thought Henry would be vindicated in the end.

"We already know what the situation is," Walker said. "That will get put out at a later day and everybody will understand."
a plea of innocence from a teammate . . .

sure . . .

that's about the same as a mom being an alibi witness . . .

 
To me it's pretty cut and dry. Either you failed the test or you didn't. As far as not having a rep present at the test, it is my understanding it's league policy not to allow his rep to be from the lab, which his rep was. So, he either passed the test or he failed it. Nothing grey about that.

 
9/28:

Javon Walker (knee) says he will "definitely" play against the Colts.
9/30:
Broncos declared WR Javon Walker, FS John Lynch, S Hamza Abdullah, FB Mike Bell, OT Ryan Harris, TE Stephen Alexander, and DTs Amon Gordon and Sam Adams inactive for Week 4 against the Colts.
 
If he tested positive I'm not sure what it is that has to play out. Why wouldn't he be suspended immediately? :confused:

 
If he tested positive I'm not sure what it is that has to play out. Why wouldn't he be suspended immediately? :confused:
You make a good point here - I mean how many other NFL players have been successful holding the league off from a suspension?Did Onterrio Smith do it once?
 
Henry knows he failed and my guess is that his lawyer said to sue is the best way to collect a paycheck before the inevitable suspension. Had he done nothing on the 20th, he would be gone now. By suing, he buys some time and keeps playing and drawing a paycheck. Once banned, he collects zero.

 
Henry knows he failed and my guess is that his lawyer said to sue is the best way to collect a paycheck before the inevitable suspension. Had he done nothing on the 20th, he would be gone now. By suing, he buys some time and keeps playing and drawing a paycheck. Once banned, he collects zero.
Yes, especially with Henry's apparent financial issues. He had to borrow money from a Titans' teammate last year and has 9 freaking kids ...
 
If he was my teammate I would say the same thing. You don't lose anything by standing behind your guy. If he throws him under the bus and for some strange reason Henry didn't get suspended then that would be an awkward situation.

 
I still don't see how suing the league would slow down the suspension. Is the league scared? Why wouldn't they suspend him and let the lawsuit play itself out. I don't get it at all..Clearly this will set a precedent and every player who is facing a suspension will simply sue the league to stop it and keep getting paid. :goodposting:

 
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Words from Javon Walker - analyze them yourself.

Walker stuck up for Henry on Friday and cautioned about reading too much into the situation. "Nobody really knows the extent of it," Walker said. "We all trust Travis. Everybody on this team supports Travis. It's funny how a lot of things get blown out of proportion before everybody really knows what happens. He'll be with us the whole year. We're going to try to finish this thing strong."

Walker thought Henry would be vindicated in the end.

"We already know what the situation is," Walker said. "That will get put out at a later day and everybody will understand."

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7300136
It's his 3rd time...but 1st time with that Denver team, guess ya never know a team mate that well.
 
I still don't see how suing the league would slow down the suspension. Is the league scared? Why wouldn't they suspend him and let the lawsuit play itself out. I don't get it at all..Clearly this will set a precedent and every player who is facing a suspension will simply sue the league to stop it and keep getting paid. :goodposting:
He's not suing them, he filed a restraining order from them using the results. I am not a lawyer but am guessing that if the NFL suspended him they would be violating the restraining order.
 
This titled to be changed to "Javon Walker Thinks Travis is Innocent". Sharks are probably expecting some type of expert opinion on Henry's situation.

 
I still don't see how suing the league would slow down the suspension. Is the league scared? Why wouldn't they suspend him and let the lawsuit play itself out. I don't get it at all..Clearly this will set a precedent and every player who is facing a suspension will simply sue the league to stop it and keep getting paid. :goodposting:
He's not suing them, he filed a restraining order from them using the results. I am not a lawyer but am guessing that if the NFL suspended him they would be violating the restraining order.
A restraining order is filed on people, not test results. This from roto..Travis Henry has filed suit in an attempt to prevent the NFL from suspending him a year after he allegedly tested positive for marijuana in September.Henry claims the league violated league policy by not allowing one of his experts to be present at the time of the testing. Profootballtalk speculates it may be a hail mary at saving Henry's season and the NFL is actively fighting to dismiss the case. Fantasy owners should prepare for other options, and it's uncertain if he has any chance to play this week. The NFL has no comment on the case at the time. Go get Selvin Young.Source: Newsday
 
I still don't see how suing the league would slow down the suspension. Is the league scared? Why wouldn't they suspend him and let the lawsuit play itself out. I don't get it at all..Clearly this will set a precedent and every player who is facing a suspension will simply sue the league to stop it and keep getting paid. :goodposting:
He's not suing them, he filed a restraining order from them using the results. I am not a lawyer but am guessing that if the NFL suspended him they would be violating the restraining order.
A restraining order is filed on people, not test results. This from roto..

Travis Henry has filed suit in an attempt to prevent the NFL from suspending him a year after he allegedly tested positive for marijuana in September.

Henry claims the league violated league policy by not allowing one of his experts to be present at the time of the testing. Profootballtalk speculates it may be a hail mary at saving Henry's season and the NFL is actively fighting to dismiss the case. Fantasy owners should prepare for other options, and it's uncertain if he has any chance to play this week. The NFL has no comment on the case at the time. Go get Selvin Young.Source: Newsday
Yes, "people" being the NFL and the AP and Newsday are both saying he was granted (maybe it wasn't "filed") a restraining order. Don't own Henry so doesn't matter to me, good luck figuring it out.
Henry was granted a temporary restraining order in Suffolk County (N.Y.) Supreme Court to prevent the league from using a urine specimen against him and to prevent the league from disclosing the test results.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ApgU...p&type=lgns
Newsday in New York reported Henry attempted to get a restraining order in Suffolk County Supreme Court on Sept. 20 to block the NFL from using the results of a drug test to suspend him.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw...ry.364c911.html
 
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I still don't see how suing the league would slow down the suspension. Is the league scared? Why wouldn't they suspend him and let the lawsuit play itself out. I don't get it at all..Clearly this will set a precedent and every player who is facing a suspension will simply sue the league to stop it and keep getting paid. :rolleyes:
He's not suing them, he filed a restraining order from them using the results. I am not a lawyer but am guessing that if the NFL suspended him they would be violating the restraining order.
A restraining order is filed on people, not test results. This from roto..

Travis Henry has filed suit in an attempt to prevent the NFL from suspending him a year after he allegedly tested positive for marijuana in September.

Henry claims the league violated league policy by not allowing one of his experts to be present at the time of the testing. Profootballtalk speculates it may be a hail mary at saving Henry's season and the NFL is actively fighting to dismiss the case. Fantasy owners should prepare for other options, and it's uncertain if he has any chance to play this week. The NFL has no comment on the case at the time. Go get Selvin Young.Source: Newsday
Yes, "people" being the NFL and the AP says he was granted (maybe it wasn't "filed") a restraining order. Don't own Henry so doesn't matter to me, good luck figuring it out.
Henry was granted a temporary restraining order in Suffolk County (N.Y.) Supreme Court to prevent the league from using a urine specimen against him and to prevent the league from disclosing the test results.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ApgU...p&type=lgns
I don't own him either, just don't want to see pot smoking players getting around suspensions because of some loop hole some attorney discovered. If you break the rules, you shouldn't get paid..Period..
 
If he tested positive I'm not sure what it is that has to play out. Why wouldn't he be suspended immediately? :rolleyes:
His "A" sample tested positive, a suspension will not be announced unless and until his "B" sample also tests positive. Both samples must test positive, to reduce the chance of a false positive test.
 
I still don't see how suing the league would slow down the suspension. Is the league scared? Why wouldn't they suspend him and let the lawsuit play itself out. I don't get it at all..Clearly this will set a precedent and every player who is facing a suspension will simply sue the league to stop it and keep getting paid. :rolleyes:
He's not suing them, he filed a restraining order from them using the results. I am not a lawyer but am guessing that if the NFL suspended him they would be violating the restraining order.
A restraining order is filed on people, not test results. This from roto..

Travis Henry has filed suit in an attempt to prevent the NFL from suspending him a year after he allegedly tested positive for marijuana in September.

Henry claims the league violated league policy by not allowing one of his experts to be present at the time of the testing. Profootballtalk speculates it may be a hail mary at saving Henry's season and the NFL is actively fighting to dismiss the case. Fantasy owners should prepare for other options, and it's uncertain if he has any chance to play this week. The NFL has no comment on the case at the time. Go get Selvin Young.Source: Newsday
Yes, "people" being the NFL and the AP says he was granted (maybe it wasn't "filed") a restraining order. Don't own Henry so doesn't matter to me, good luck figuring it out.
Henry was granted a temporary restraining order in Suffolk County (N.Y.) Supreme Court to prevent the league from using a urine specimen against him and to prevent the league from disclosing the test results.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ApgU...p&type=lgns
I don't own him either, just don't want to see pot smoking players getting around suspensions because of some loop hole some attorney discovered. If you break the rules, you shouldn't get paid..Period..
Been trying to find out what NFL player lit up the most expensive joint so far... Ricky Williams or Travis Henry????
 
also, javon says vick is being railroaded by the man, and will be acquitted of all charges.

 
I still don't see how suing the league would slow down the suspension. Is the league scared? Why wouldn't they suspend him and let the lawsuit play itself out. I don't get it at all..Clearly this will set a precedent and every player who is facing a suspension will simply sue the league to stop it and keep getting paid. :rolleyes:
I'm not sure if someone posted this already, but labor agreements generally fall under federal jurisdiction. The league would not risk settling his suit if he is disputing the labor agreement -- so they let the federal courts decide the matter. When the courts decide, which is why this could take a month to play out, the NFL will mete out its punshiment, in this case a year suspension.
 
This reminds me of Joe Horn Saying vick was innocent and when the truth comes out he will be vindicated. Same thing. Just a teamate saying the team thing but its silly.

 
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Words from Javon Walker - analyze them yourself.

Walker stuck up for Henry on Friday and cautioned about reading too much into the situation. "Nobody really knows the extent of it," Walker said. "We all trust Travis. Everybody on this team supports Travis. It's funny how a lot of things get blown out of proportion before everybody really knows what happens. He'll be with us the whole year. We're going to try to finish this thing strong."

Walker thought Henry would be vindicated in the end.

"We already know what the situation is," Walker said. "That will get put out at a later day and everybody will understand."

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7300136
So Henry borrowed money form Walker too?
 
Words from Javon Walker - analyze them yourself.

Walker stuck up for Henry on Friday and cautioned about reading too much into the situation. "Nobody really knows the extent of it," Walker said. "We all trust Travis. Everybody on this team supports Travis. It's funny how a lot of things get blown out of proportion before everybody really knows what happens. He'll be with us the whole year. We're going to try to finish this thing strong."

Walker thought Henry would be vindicated in the end.

"We already know what the situation is," Walker said. "That will get put out at a later day and everybody will understand."

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7300136
So Henry borrowed money form Walker too?
:goodposting: That is good.. :rolleyes:
 
There are some good points here. Maybe Henry is pulling a hail marry just to continue to collect a paycheck. Maybe the NFL broke the rules and/or contract in order to test the 2nd sample. Nobody knows and I have no more information then anyone else or what is available to anyone that can Google "Travis Henry". The Javon Walker comments or even coach Shanny's comments or I should say lack of comments could be just because they can't say anything or they also would be violating team rules or NFL rules. However, maybe they know something! Maybe they don't and maybe they're just sticking with the team. There are so many possibilities and why don't we all just wait and see what happens. I do own both and I've had them both for a while. It's a 14 team keeper league with 18 roster spots so Young had value to begin with...

 
Macdaddy_2004 said:
Words from Javon Walker - analyze them yourself.

Walker stuck up for Henry on Friday and cautioned about reading too much into the situation. "Nobody really knows the extent of it," Walker said. "We all trust Travis. Everybody on this team supports Travis. It's funny how a lot of things get blown out of proportion before everybody really knows what happens. He'll be with us the whole year. We're going to try to finish this thing strong."

Walker thought Henry would be vindicated in the end.

"We already know what the situation is," Walker said. "That will get put out at a later day and everybody will understand."

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7300136
What's he going to say, "That dopehead's probably been using, but I hope not."?
 
Have any of you insensitive cads thought, just for a minute, that perhaps Mr. henry has glaucoma and should not be picked on for a medical condition?

 
Have any of you insensitive cads thought, just for a minute, that perhaps Mr. henry has glaucoma and should not be picked on for a medical condition?
Glaucoma?Is that why the baby mommies are fugly?
Dude, why don't you shut it down already! I'm not a HENRY owner nor will I be on his side if it is true that he is using drugs, but if it is true the guy has a problem I hope he gets it straight someday. You sound like a jackass! Keep your racist opinions to yourself!
 
Have any of you insensitive cads thought, just for a minute, that perhaps Mr. henry has glaucoma and should not be picked on for a medical condition?
Glaucoma?Is that why the baby mommies are fugly?
Dude, why don't you shut it down already! I'm not a HENRY owner nor will I be on his side if it is true that he is using drugs, but if it is true the guy has a problem I hope he gets it straight someday. You sound like a jackass! Keep your racist opinions to yourself!
I saw nothing racist about this post. It was a decent joke blaming poor eyesight for the dubious choice of women to birth his 9 kids.Race irrelevant... :mellow:
 
HENRY SAYS POSITIVE WAS A MISTAKE

It's become popular for athletes to explain away chronic lifestyle choices that blow up in their faces as mistakes. Another NFL player is now using the "M" word, but this time it really applies.

If, of course, there really was a mistake.

Specifically, Broncos running back Travis Henry denies that he had marijuana or evidence of any other prohibited compound in his body. "There is no valid reason why any unlawful substance would be in my urine," Henry said Friday, according to Mike Klis of the Denver Post. "This must be a mistake."

And while it appears that Henry took the unusual step of filing suit to force the league to allow a Henry-hired expert to monitor the testing of the "B" sample of his pee in order to buy time before he's jettisoned from the game for a year with no guarantee that he'll be able to return, it could be that Henry genuinely believes that he's clean.

In discussing Henry's case with several league insiders, we've detected a strong belief in some circles that there are problems with the testing procedure. Whether those beliefs are valid is a different issue; from a perception standpoint, the reality is that some players and agents are concerned.

There also is a concern held by some that the NFL Players Association doesn't do enough to help players fight back against erroneous test results. But, again, these concerns don't mean that the testing is erroneous in any way.

The testing protocol and procedure is the result of collective bargaining between the league and the union. If the union is serious about representing the interests of all players, the union would be wise to listen to the ones who think that they're getting a raw deal from the current testing program.

In an affidavit filed by Henry on Sept. 18 as part of his court action -- it was obtained by the New York Daily News -- he stated: "There is no valid reason why any unlawful substance would be in my urine. This must be a mistake."

Henry also noted in the affidavit: "If I fail this test, I will be suspended for one year from my employment, and will be obliged to repay all signing bonuses paid to date. ... I will be prejudiced if my expert cannot observe these tests."

:confused:

 
HENRY SAYS POSITIVE WAS A MISTAKEIt's become popular for athletes to explain away chronic lifestyle choices that blow up in their faces as mistakes. Another NFL player is now using the "M" word, but this time it really applies.If, of course, there really was a mistake.Specifically, Broncos running back Travis Henry denies that he had marijuana or evidence of any other prohibited compound in his body. "There is no valid reason why any unlawful substance would be in my urine," Henry said Friday, according to Mike Klis of the Denver Post. "This must be a mistake."And while it appears that Henry took the unusual step of filing suit to force the league to allow a Henry-hired expert to monitor the testing of the "B" sample of his pee in order to buy time before he's jettisoned from the game for a year with no guarantee that he'll be able to return, it could be that Henry genuinely believes that he's clean.In discussing Henry's case with several league insiders, we've detected a strong belief in some circles that there are problems with the testing procedure. Whether those beliefs are valid is a different issue; from a perception standpoint, the reality is that some players and agents are concerned.There also is a concern held by some that the NFL Players Association doesn't do enough to help players fight back against erroneous test results. But, again, these concerns don't mean that the testing is erroneous in any way.The testing protocol and procedure is the result of collective bargaining between the league and the union. If the union is serious about representing the interests of all players, the union would be wise to listen to the ones who think that they're getting a raw deal from the current testing program.In an affidavit filed by Henry on Sept. 18 as part of his court action -- it was obtained by the New York Daily News -- he stated: "There is no valid reason why any unlawful substance would be in my urine. This must be a mistake."Henry also noted in the affidavit: "If I fail this test, I will be suspended for one year from my employment, and will be obliged to repay all signing bonuses paid to date. ... I will be prejudiced if my expert cannot observe these tests." :popcorn:
"I did not sleep with that woman""If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit"... "I'll find the real killer!"I actually was pulling for him, but these things don't have false positives that often.
 
HENRY SAYS POSITIVE WAS A MISTAKEIt's become popular for athletes to explain away chronic lifestyle choices that blow up in their faces as mistakes. Another NFL player is now using the "M" word, but this time it really applies.If, of course, there really was a mistake.Specifically, Broncos running back Travis Henry denies that he had marijuana or evidence of any other prohibited compound in his body. "There is no valid reason why any unlawful substance would be in my urine," Henry said Friday, according to Mike Klis of the Denver Post. "This must be a mistake."And while it appears that Henry took the unusual step of filing suit to force the league to allow a Henry-hired expert to monitor the testing of the "B" sample of his pee in order to buy time before he's jettisoned from the game for a year with no guarantee that he'll be able to return, it could be that Henry genuinely believes that he's clean.In discussing Henry's case with several league insiders, we've detected a strong belief in some circles that there are problems with the testing procedure. Whether those beliefs are valid is a different issue; from a perception standpoint, the reality is that some players and agents are concerned.There also is a concern held by some that the NFL Players Association doesn't do enough to help players fight back against erroneous test results. But, again, these concerns don't mean that the testing is erroneous in any way.The testing protocol and procedure is the result of collective bargaining between the league and the union. If the union is serious about representing the interests of all players, the union would be wise to listen to the ones who think that they're getting a raw deal from the current testing program.In an affidavit filed by Henry on Sept. 18 as part of his court action -- it was obtained by the New York Daily News -- he stated: "There is no valid reason why any unlawful substance would be in my urine. This must be a mistake."Henry also noted in the affidavit: "If I fail this test, I will be suspended for one year from my employment, and will be obliged to repay all signing bonuses paid to date. ... I will be prejudiced if my expert cannot observe these tests." :bag:
"I did not sleep with that woman""If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit"... "I'll find the real killer!"I actually was pulling for him, but these things don't have false positives that often.
Yeah it's not like this is some random player who has never tested positve and been suspended before complaining about a false positive result. Then maybe it would hold a little more merit. Henry is guilty and is just buying himself more time.
 
Henry knows he failed and my guess is that his lawyer said to sue is the best way to collect a paycheck before the inevitable suspension. Had he done nothing on the 20th, he would be gone now. By suing, he buys some time and keeps playing and drawing a paycheck. Once banned, he collects zero.
Like I was saying. This dude is toast.Fox Sports' John Czarnecki reports Denver Broncos RB Travis Henry, who has filed suit in federal court questioning a positive marijuana test, could be facing a year's suspension. He filed suit in order to delay the league's actions because he has received only $1 million of his $6 million signing bonus. The next payment of $1 million is due on Oct. 15. Henry wants to be on the roster in order to collect.
 
Henry knows he failed and my guess is that his lawyer said to sue is the best way to collect a paycheck before the inevitable suspension. Had he done nothing on the 20th, he would be gone now. By suing, he buys some time and keeps playing and drawing a paycheck. Once banned, he collects zero.
Like I was saying. This dude is toast.Fox Sports' John Czarnecki reports Denver Broncos RB Travis Henry, who has filed suit in federal court questioning a positive marijuana test, could be facing a year's suspension. He filed suit in order to delay the league's actions because he has received only $1 million of his $6 million signing bonus. The next payment of $1 million is due on Oct. 15. Henry wants to be on the roster in order to collect.
BRONCOS' REMEDIES LIMITED BY CBALen Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports that the Denver Broncos inserted language into the contract of running back Travis Henry requiring him to repay his entire $6 million signing bonus, or whatever portion of it that he actually has received, if he is suspended for drugs.The problem with Len's report, however, is that the Collective Bargaining Agreement negotiated by the league and the NFLPA in 2006 specifically prevents teams from having individually negotiated forfeiture provisions for violations of the substance abuse policy and/or the policy on anabolic steroids and related substances.As we recently explained, a player who is suspended under the substance abuse policy automatically forfeits the corresponding portion of his signing bonus that applies to the games that he misses while on suspension. The player then has the opportunity to earn the forfeited portion of the signing bonus back if/when he performs on the back end of the deal the portion of the contract that was tolled during his suspension.So of the $6 million signing bonus Henry received on a five-year deal, a one-year suspension will require him to re-pay $1.2 million. But unless and until his application for reinstatement is denied, Henry will owe no further money.In other words, the Broncos still must pay Henry $4.8 million. Since he already has received $2 million of the signing bonus money, the team owes him at the appropriate upcoming dates $2.8 million of the deferred $4 million in signing bonus money.If Len's report is accurate, the situation does not reflect well on the Broncos' front office. In this era of limitations on the ability of teams to recover money that has been already earned by players, the onus is on the organizations to use devices such as per-game roster bonuses or advances on guaranteed salaries to ensure that there is protection against players who default on their deals.And it's not as if the Broncos shouldn't have been leery about Henry. He had been on the brink of a one-year suspension since October 2005. In the team's defense, it's possible that a $6 million signing bonus was necessary to trump a pending offer from another team. But there's never been any reports of such other offers, and we're thus inclined under the circumstances to conclude that this is just the latest example of coach Mike Shanahan using his lifetime job security to squander some more of owner Pat Bowlen's money.Finally, we've also got to take issue with Pasquarelli's analysis of the $6 million option bonus owed to Henry in the spring of 2009. Len says that the option is guaranteed only as to injury. But since most option bonuses also have a non-exercise fee in an amount identical to the option bonus, the Broncos will have to decide whether to pay the money and keep Henry come March 2009 -- or whether to cut him and owe nothing. If that's the case, cutting him would likely prevent the team from recovering any of the signing bonus applicable to the final three years of the deal. In other words, the Broncos will have to pay Henry another $6 million in order to be able to get another $3.6 million in signing bonus money back from him, if he remains in default.(Another issue that arises under this specific deal is whether the tolling of the contract during Henry's suspension also bumps back the due date for the option bonus. If it does, Henry will have to be reinstated and play for a season or so until the Broncos will be forced to decide whether to pay the option bonus or to cut ties with Travis.) Bottom line? Though Len's report doesn't say it, the Broncos royally screwed up Henry's contract. And Len royally screwed up his assessment of the situation. :confused:
 

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