Javon Walker wont' accept pay cut (1 Viewer)

[Buckna]

If healthy, a $2.2M salary and one time roster bonus of $5.2M is a steal.So all we have is some Denver Post writer speculating that Denver "might" want to restructure and that Javon doesn't want to. This is the same Denver Post that said before thursday's game that

The Denver Post reports that Selvin Young will get the majority of the carries the rest of the season for the Broncos as they look to the future of their running game.

Yeah, color me unimpressed with there reporting ability especially since they seem to specualte all the time.Buy low on Javon Walker, the number of people who have completely written him off are staggering.

 

[Phurfur]

If healthy, a $2.2M salary and one time roster bonus of $5.2M is a steal.So all we have is some Denver Post writer speculating that Denver "might" want to restructure and that Javon doesn't want to. This is the same Denver Post that said before thursday's game that

The Denver Post reports that Selvin Young will get the majority of the carries the rest of the season for the Broncos as they look to the future of their running game.

Yeah, color me unimpressed with there reporting ability especially since they seem to specualte all the time.Buy low on Javon Walker, the number of people who have completely written him off are staggering.

I don't think people are writing him off, they just don't think he is worth $7.4 million.

 

[Buckna]

If healthy, a $2.2M salary and one time roster bonus of $5.2M is a steal.So all we have is some Denver Post writer speculating that Denver "might" want to restructure and that Javon doesn't want to. This is the same Denver Post that said before thursday's game that

The Denver Post reports that Selvin Young will get the majority of the carries the rest of the season for the Broncos as they look to the future of their running game.

Yeah, color me unimpressed with there reporting ability especially since they seem to specualte all the time.Buy low on Javon Walker, the number of people who have completely written him off are staggering.

I don't think people are writing him off, they just don't think he is worth $7.4 million.

There have been many threads talking about Javon being a bum for not playing the last few weeks. I'm sure most are redrafters, but there is insane amount of "EEEEEEE" love on these boards. Guy is a definite buy low.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

I can't see Walker getting cut. He's too good. Its not like he stunk the joint out. He just got injured. Alot of teams would be willing to pay him big bucks.

Alot of the Green Bay folks seem to be revisionist historians. Walker held out with two years left on his contract, but went back when Green Bay promised that they would renegotiate at the end of that season (plus Favre threw him under the bus). After he got injured, Green Bay did not want to renegotiate. With only 1 year left, Green Bay did not have the negotiating power because Walker could have just played the final 6 games of the season and then left. Green Bay allowed the situation to really fester.

The Denver situation is totally different. They would like for Walker to renegotiate, but they don't really have the power because alot of teams would be willing to pay this guy off if he passed the physicals.

Crazy..I don't know many teams that would extend a contract with two years left on it, especially a rookie contract. This isn't TO or Moss we're talking about here. The Packers handled it perfectly. Why in the heck would they extend his contract after he got hurt? What other team would to that? I think Walker will explore the open market, but may end up back in Denver after he realizes he's not going to get 7+ million on the open market.

I agree, Walker had two years left and was coming off a major injury. What team would rip up that deal? Walker should have been glad he had two years left.Go out and play, have a good year, then with a year left you do something.

No he didn't. Walker first threatened to hold out with two years left on his contract. After Favre made his infamous statements and the team agreed that they would renegotiate at the end of that season, Walker came back. He then got injured early in the season. He rehabed for the rest of the season. When he went back to management at the end of the season, they decided that they didn't want to renegotiate. Walker now only had a year left on his contract which gave him way more bargaining power. The team and him started to trade insults through the media until it came to a point that there was no way he was going to come back (unless it was for the last 6 games to finish his contract). The team was forced to trade him or else they would get nothing in return.The Denver situation is entirely different. Because Walker is quite talented when he is not injured, Denver has to know that a team would be willing to pay him off if he passes a physical and proves that he is healthy. Denver would like to renegotiate, but I think Walkers agent would advise him against it.

In both cases it is entirely business. Unfortunately in Green Bay, they allowed it to get very personal. I like Favre, but he should have never made those comments knowing the sway he holds in Green Bay. Maybe the media did take what he said and blew it up, but he would have been better served to just say "no comment".

This is so far from the truth it isn't worth commenting on. Where did you come up with all that crap? You should be a writer, fiction of course.

Besides the part where I said the team would renegotiate at he end of the season (that was said by Rosenhaus but never denied by the team) what is false or speculative?

 

[Phurfur]

I can't see Walker getting cut. He's too good. Its not like he stunk the joint out. He just got injured. Alot of teams would be willing to pay him big bucks.

Alot of the Green Bay folks seem to be revisionist historians. Walker held out with two years left on his contract, but went back when Green Bay promised that they would renegotiate at the end of that season (plus Favre threw him under the bus). After he got injured, Green Bay did not want to renegotiate. With only 1 year left, Green Bay did not have the negotiating power because Walker could have just played the final 6 games of the season and then left. Green Bay allowed the situation to really fester.

The Denver situation is totally different. They would like for Walker to renegotiate, but they don't really have the power because alot of teams would be willing to pay this guy off if he passed the physicals.

Crazy..I don't know many teams that would extend a contract with two years left on it, especially a rookie contract. This isn't TO or Moss we're talking about here. The Packers handled it perfectly. Why in the heck would they extend his contract after he got hurt? What other team would to that? I think Walker will explore the open market, but may end up back in Denver after he realizes he's not going to get 7+ million on the open market.

I agree, Walker had two years left and was coming off a major injury. What team would rip up that deal? Walker should have been glad he had two years left.Go out and play, have a good year, then with a year left you do something.

No he didn't. Walker first threatened to hold out with two years left on his contract. After Favre made his infamous statements and the team agreed that they would renegotiate at the end of that season, Walker came back. He then got injured early in the season. He rehabed for the rest of the season. When he went back to management at the end of the season, they decided that they didn't want to renegotiate. Walker now only had a year left on his contract which gave him way more bargaining power. The team and him started to trade insults through the media until it came to a point that there was no way he was going to come back (unless it was for the last 6 games to finish his contract). The team was forced to trade him or else they would get nothing in return.The Denver situation is entirely different. Because Walker is quite talented when he is not injured, Denver has to know that a team would be willing to pay him off if he passes a physical and proves that he is healthy. Denver would like to renegotiate, but I think Walkers agent would advise him against it.

In both cases it is entirely business. Unfortunately in Green Bay, they allowed it to get very personal. I like Favre, but he should have never made those comments knowing the sway he holds in Green Bay. Maybe the media did take what he said and blew it up, but he would have been better served to just say "no comment".

This is so far from the truth it isn't worth commenting on. Where did you come up with all that crap? You should be a writer, fiction of course.

Besides the part where I said the team would renegotiate at he end of the season (that was said by Rosenhaus but never denied by the team) what is false or speculative?

1. After he got injured, Green Bay did not want to renegotiate. GB was never going to renegotiate.

2. With only 1 year left, Green Bay did not have the negotiating power because Walker could have just played the final 6 games of the season and then left.

Walker refused to play for GB and demanded to be traded

3. Green Bay allowed the situation to really fester.

GB traded him as he requested

 

[Chunky Soup]

If healthy, a $2.2M salary and one time roster bonus of $5.2M is a steal.So all we have is some Denver Post writer speculating that Denver "might" want to restructure and that Javon doesn't want to. This is the same Denver Post that said before thursday's game that

The Denver Post reports that Selvin Young will get the majority of the carries the rest of the season for the Broncos as they look to the future of their running game.

Yeah, color me unimpressed with there reporting ability especially since they seem to specualte all the time.Buy low on Javon Walker, the number of people who have completely written him off are staggering.

I don't think people are writing him off, they just don't think he is worth $7.4 million.

There have been many threads talking about Javon being a bum for not playing the last few weeks. I'm sure most are redrafters, but there is insane amount of "EEEEEEE" love on these boards. Guy is a definite buy low.

I think people are forgetting how enormous his upside is.

 

[bcr8f]

1. After he got injured, Green Bay did not want to renegotiate.

GB was never going to renegotiate.

2. With only 1 year left, Green Bay did not have the negotiating power because Walker could have just played the final 6 games of the season and then left.

Walker refused to play for GB and demanded to be traded

3. Green Bay allowed the situation to really fester.

GB traded him as he requested

More crap. Do you guys ever know what you're talking about? After the injury the team wanted him back but wanted to see if he was recovered. He refused to play for them and even had his father say he would never play for them.

And for what? Demanding he honor THE CONTRACT HE SIGNED.

 

[bcr8f]

Besides the part where I said the team would renegotiate at he end of the season (that was said by Rosenhaus but never denied by the team) what is false or speculative?

So a team refuses to answer Rosenhaus's bogus claims through the press they're true?

 

[Chaz McNulty]

I can't see Walker getting cut. He's too good. Its not like he stunk the joint out. He just got injured. Alot of teams would be willing to pay him big bucks.

Alot of the Green Bay folks seem to be revisionist historians. Walker held out with two years left on his contract, but went back when Green Bay promised that they would renegotiate at the end of that season (plus Favre threw him under the bus). After he got injured, Green Bay did not want to renegotiate. With only 1 year left, Green Bay did not have the negotiating power because Walker could have just played the final 6 games of the season and then left. Green Bay allowed the situation to really fester.

The Denver situation is totally different. They would like for Walker to renegotiate, but they don't really have the power because alot of teams would be willing to pay this guy off if he passed the physicals.

Crazy..I don't know many teams that would extend a contract with two years left on it, especially a rookie contract. This isn't TO or Moss we're talking about here. The Packers handled it perfectly. Why in the heck would they extend his contract after he got hurt? What other team would to that? I think Walker will explore the open market, but may end up back in Denver after he realizes he's not going to get 7+ million on the open market.

I agree, Walker had two years left and was coming off a major injury. What team would rip up that deal? Walker should have been glad he had two years left.Go out and play, have a good year, then with a year left you do something.

No he didn't. Walker first threatened to hold out with two years left on his contract. After Favre made his infamous statements and the team agreed that they would renegotiate at the end of that season, Walker came back. He then got injured early in the season. He rehabed for the rest of the season. When he went back to management at the end of the season, they decided that they didn't want to renegotiate. Walker now only had a year left on his contract which gave him way more bargaining power. The team and him started to trade insults through the media until it came to a point that there was no way he was going to come back (unless it was for the last 6 games to finish his contract). The team was forced to trade him or else they would get nothing in return.The Denver situation is entirely different. Because Walker is quite talented when he is not injured, Denver has to know that a team would be willing to pay him off if he passes a physical and proves that he is healthy. Denver would like to renegotiate, but I think Walkers agent would advise him against it.

In both cases it is entirely business. Unfortunately in Green Bay, they allowed it to get very personal. I like Favre, but he should have never made those comments knowing the sway he holds in Green Bay. Maybe the media did take what he said and blew it up, but he would have been better served to just say "no comment".

This is so far from the truth it isn't worth commenting on. Where did you come up with all that crap? You should be a writer, fiction of course.

Besides the part where I said the team would renegotiate at he end of the season (that was said by Rosenhaus but never denied by the team) what is false or speculative?

1. After he got injured, Green Bay did not want to renegotiate. GB was never going to renegotiate.

2. With only 1 year left, Green Bay did not have the negotiating power because Walker could have just played the final 6 games of the season and then left.

Walker refused to play for GB and demanded to be traded

3. Green Bay allowed the situation to really fester.

GB traded him as he requested

1. That's laughable. You really don't think Green Bay would have renegotiated if he put up similar numbers to the year before. You have no idea how the business of the NFL works.2. If Green Bay would not have traded him, Walker would have reported for the last 6 games (speculative). This is a common tactic for players holding out who want to finish their contract. Walker had Green Bay over a barrel and their only option was to trade him or get nothing for him at the end of the season.

3. Something that Green Bay did really upset Walker. All of a sudden he went from holding out to saying he will retire before he plays with them again.

You really need to take off the homer glasses and look at the situation as how it played out. It was typical NFL business that turned into a soap opera. And that had as much to do with Green Bay mangement and Favre as it did with Walker.

 

[scott72]

No he didn't. Walker first threatened to hold out with two years left on his contract. After Favre made his infamous statements and the team agreed that they would renegotiate at the end of that season, Walker came back. He then got injured early in the season. He rehabed for the rest of the season. When he went back to management at the end of the season, they decided that they didn't want to renegotiate. Walker now only had a year left on his contract which gave him way more bargaining power. The team and him started to trade insults through the media until it came to a point that there was no way he was going to come back (unless it was for the last 6 games to finish his contract). The team was forced to trade him or else they would get nothing in return.

The Denver situation is entirely different. Because Walker is quite talented when he is not injured, Denver has to know that a team would be willing to pay him off if he passes a physical and proves that he is healthy. Denver would like to renegotiate, but I think Walkers agent would advise him against it.

In both cases it is entirely business. Unfortunately in Green Bay, they allowed it to get very personal. I like Favre, but he should have never made those comments knowing the sway he holds in Green Bay. Maybe the media did take what he said and blew it up, but he would have been better served to just say "no comment".

You have proof of that? The team never said such a thing as far as I know. The only one who said they would was Rosenhaus and it would surprise me if he spread that story.

Absolutely correct. Ted Thompson and the Packers had NO comment. I agree Brett should of stayed out of it, but the team did stay out of it.

 

[scott72]

If healthy, a $2.2M salary and one time roster bonus of $5.2M is a steal.So all we have is some Denver Post writer speculating that Denver "might" want to restructure and that Javon doesn't want to. This is the same Denver Post that said before thursday's game that

The Denver Post reports that Selvin Young will get the majority of the carries the rest of the season for the Broncos as they look to the future of their running game.

Yeah, color me unimpressed with there reporting ability especially since they seem to specualte all the time.Buy low on Javon Walker, the number of people who have completely written him off are staggering.

I don't think people are writing him off, they just don't think he is worth $7.4 million.

Exactly. If fully healthy he's definitely worth that. The problem is he's coming off major knee surgery and having problems with that same knee now. If you owned or ran a team you wouldn't pay that high for such an injury risk either, especially when someone else has emerged like Marshall..

 

[scott72]

If healthy, a $2.2M salary and one time roster bonus of $5.2M is a steal.So all we have is some Denver Post writer speculating that Denver "might" want to restructure and that Javon doesn't want to. This is the same Denver Post that said before thursday's game that

The Denver Post reports that Selvin Young will get the majority of the carries the rest of the season for the Broncos as they look to the future of their running game.

Yeah, color me unimpressed with there reporting ability especially since they seem to specualte all the time.Buy low on Javon Walker, the number of people who have completely written him off are staggering.

I don't think people are writing him off, they just don't think he is worth $7.4 million.

There have been many threads talking about Javon being a bum for not playing the last few weeks. I'm sure most are redrafters, but there is insane amount of "EEEEEEE" love on these boards. Guy is a definite buy low.

I think people are forgetting how enormous his upside is.

Nobody is questioning his upside fantasy wise. I believe this discussion is about his contract however. Two different animals.

 

[bcr8f]

Nobody is questioning his upside fantasy wise. I believe this discussion is about his contract however. Two different animals.

That's true. His health is an issue. If he needs more surgery such as microfracture his career could be over.

 

[sho nuff]

And that had as much to do with Green Bay mangement and Favre as it did with Walker.

Actually, most of it had little to do with Favre...and a crap ton to do with Walker wanting more than what he first got in his rookie deal.I agree it was business...but Walker screwed the pooch in demanding how things would be done.

 

[bcr8f]

And that had as much to do with Green Bay mangement and Favre as it did with Walker.

Actually, most of it had little to do with Favre...and a crap ton to do with Walker wanting more than what he first got in his rookie deal.I agree it was business...but Walker screwed the pooch in demanding how things would be done.

In Green Bay you do get paid as Driver and Lee have but they wanted to see back to back years before committing. They hurt themselves paying Freeman and were being careful. The injury changed everything. If he hadn't gotten hurt he would have gotten his contract, but they wanted to see he was healthy the next year before offering big money.More than anything it was bad luck.

 

[Phurfur]

I can't see Walker getting cut. He's too good. Its not like he stunk the joint out. He just got injured. Alot of teams would be willing to pay him big bucks.

Alot of the Green Bay folks seem to be revisionist historians. Walker held out with two years left on his contract, but went back when Green Bay promised that they would renegotiate at the end of that season (plus Favre threw him under the bus). After he got injured, Green Bay did not want to renegotiate. With only 1 year left, Green Bay did not have the negotiating power because Walker could have just played the final 6 games of the season and then left. Green Bay allowed the situation to really fester.

The Denver situation is totally different. They would like for Walker to renegotiate, but they don't really have the power because alot of teams would be willing to pay this guy off if he passed the physicals.

Crazy..I don't know many teams that would extend a contract with two years left on it, especially a rookie contract. This isn't TO or Moss we're talking about here. The Packers handled it perfectly. Why in the heck would they extend his contract after he got hurt? What other team would to that? I think Walker will explore the open market, but may end up back in Denver after he realizes he's not going to get 7+ million on the open market.

I agree, Walker had two years left and was coming off a major injury. What team would rip up that deal? Walker should have been glad he had two years left.Go out and play, have a good year, then with a year left you do something.

No he didn't. Walker first threatened to hold out with two years left on his contract. After Favre made his infamous statements and the team agreed that they would renegotiate at the end of that season, Walker came back. He then got injured early in the season. He rehabed for the rest of the season. When he went back to management at the end of the season, they decided that they didn't want to renegotiate. Walker now only had a year left on his contract which gave him way more bargaining power. The team and him started to trade insults through the media until it came to a point that there was no way he was going to come back (unless it was for the last 6 games to finish his contract). The team was forced to trade him or else they would get nothing in return.The Denver situation is entirely different. Because Walker is quite talented when he is not injured, Denver has to know that a team would be willing to pay him off if he passes a physical and proves that he is healthy. Denver would like to renegotiate, but I think Walkers agent would advise him against it.

In both cases it is entirely business. Unfortunately in Green Bay, they allowed it to get very personal. I like Favre, but he should have never made those comments knowing the sway he holds in Green Bay. Maybe the media did take what he said and blew it up, but he would have been better served to just say "no comment".

This is so far from the truth it isn't worth commenting on. Where did you come up with all that crap? You should be a writer, fiction of course.

Besides the part where I said the team would renegotiate at he end of the season (that was said by Rosenhaus but never denied by the team) what is false or speculative?

1. After he got injured, Green Bay did not want to renegotiate. GB was never going to renegotiate.

2. With only 1 year left, Green Bay did not have the negotiating power because Walker could have just played the final 6 games of the season and then left.

Walker refused to play for GB and demanded to be traded

3. Green Bay allowed the situation to really fester.

GB traded him as he requested

1. That's laughable. You really don't think Green Bay would have renegotiated if he put up similar numbers to the year before. You have no idea how the business of the NFL works.2. If Green Bay would not have traded him, Walker would have reported for the last 6 games (speculative). This is a common tactic for players holding out who want to finish their contract. Walker had Green Bay over a barrel and their only option was to trade him or get nothing for him at the end of the season.

3. Something that Green Bay did really upset Walker. All of a sudden he went from holding out to saying he will retire before he plays with them again.

You really need to take off the homer glasses and look at the situation as how it played out. It was typical NFL business that turned into a soap opera. And that had as much to do with Green Bay mangement and Favre as it did with Walker.

In reply to your second point.If this is so common can you remember the last time a player did this. I can only think of Joey Galloway in Seatle years ago. Feel free to add to the list.

You continue to make things up as you argue.

And I am not a homer but have friend that live in Wisconsin.

 

[packersfan]

And that had as much to do with Green Bay mangement and Favre as it did with Walker.

Actually, most of it had little to do with Favre...and a crap ton to do with Walker wanting more than what he first got in his rookie deal.I agree it was business...but Walker screwed the pooch in demanding how things would be done.

I'll repeat what I wrote earlier - Walker has people close to him who gave him VERY bad advice during his time in Green Bay in my opinion. I've been told by people close to the Packers that when Walker was in Green Bay he was a great guy - good teammate, extremely likable. But when he went home he was constantly being told how great he was and how the Packers were continually disrespecting him. Here's an example - a family member demanded the Packers put Walker on the cover of their media guide a few years ago and was outraged when Favre was put there instead.Imagine that, Favre gracing the cover of the media guide and not Javon Walker. Gee, what a slap in the face, huh?Well according to those close to Walker it was a slap in the face and a sign the Packers didn't respect him. That was a complete load of crap but that's the kind of stuff he was being told. Then Rosenhaus entered the picture and he proceded to make things worse. When you combine all that with Javon not being the brightest guy in the world - again, nice guy but not all that bright - his Wonderlic score was pretty poor - it all added up to a problem that was never going to be resolved amicably.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

I can't see Walker getting cut. He's too good. Its not like he stunk the joint out. He just got injured. Alot of teams would be willing to pay him big bucks.

Alot of the Green Bay folks seem to be revisionist historians. Walker held out with two years left on his contract, but went back when Green Bay promised that they would renegotiate at the end of that season (plus Favre threw him under the bus). After he got injured, Green Bay did not want to renegotiate. With only 1 year left, Green Bay did not have the negotiating power because Walker could have just played the final 6 games of the season and then left. Green Bay allowed the situation to really fester.

The Denver situation is totally different. They would like for Walker to renegotiate, but they don't really have the power because alot of teams would be willing to pay this guy off if he passed the physicals.

Crazy..I don't know many teams that would extend a contract with two years left on it, especially a rookie contract. This isn't TO or Moss we're talking about here. The Packers handled it perfectly. Why in the heck would they extend his contract after he got hurt? What other team would to that? I think Walker will explore the open market, but may end up back in Denver after he realizes he's not going to get 7+ million on the open market.

I agree, Walker had two years left and was coming off a major injury. What team would rip up that deal? Walker should have been glad he had two years left.Go out and play, have a good year, then with a year left you do something.

No he didn't. Walker first threatened to hold out with two years left on his contract. After Favre made his infamous statements and the team agreed that they would renegotiate at the end of that season, Walker came back. He then got injured early in the season. He rehabed for the rest of the season. When he went back to management at the end of the season, they decided that they didn't want to renegotiate. Walker now only had a year left on his contract which gave him way more bargaining power. The team and him started to trade insults through the media until it came to a point that there was no way he was going to come back (unless it was for the last 6 games to finish his contract). The team was forced to trade him or else they would get nothing in return.The Denver situation is entirely different. Because Walker is quite talented when he is not injured, Denver has to know that a team would be willing to pay him off if he passes a physical and proves that he is healthy. Denver would like to renegotiate, but I think Walkers agent would advise him against it.

In both cases it is entirely business. Unfortunately in Green Bay, they allowed it to get very personal. I like Favre, but he should have never made those comments knowing the sway he holds in Green Bay. Maybe the media did take what he said and blew it up, but he would have been better served to just say "no comment".

This is so far from the truth it isn't worth commenting on. Where did you come up with all that crap? You should be a writer, fiction of course.

Besides the part where I said the team would renegotiate at he end of the season (that was said by Rosenhaus but never denied by the team) what is false or speculative?

1. After he got injured, Green Bay did not want to renegotiate. GB was never going to renegotiate.

2. With only 1 year left, Green Bay did not have the negotiating power because Walker could have just played the final 6 games of the season and then left.

Walker refused to play for GB and demanded to be traded

3. Green Bay allowed the situation to really fester.

GB traded him as he requested

1. That's laughable. You really don't think Green Bay would have renegotiated if he put up similar numbers to the year before. You have no idea how the business of the NFL works.2. If Green Bay would not have traded him, Walker would have reported for the last 6 games (speculative). This is a common tactic for players holding out who want to finish their contract. Walker had Green Bay over a barrel and their only option was to trade him or get nothing for him at the end of the season.

3. Something that Green Bay did really upset Walker. All of a sudden he went from holding out to saying he will retire before he plays with them again.

You really need to take off the homer glasses and look at the situation as how it played out. It was typical NFL business that turned into a soap opera. And that had as much to do with Green Bay mangement and Favre as it did with Walker.

In reply to your second point.If this is so common can you remember the last time a player did this. I can only think of Joey Galloway in Seatle years ago. Feel free to add to the list.

You continue to make things up as you argue.

And I am not a homer but have friend that live in Wisconsin.

It only takes one guy to do this. Galloway was the examle I was going to use (Seattle is my favorite team). When I said it is a common tactic I should have clarified that it is common knowledge that players can do this to play out a contract year. Rarely do teams allow this to happen because they do want to get something for their asset. The NFL player really does have the superior bargaining power in the last year of a contract. Especially when their stock is high. I'll agree that it was pointless for Walker to do this with two years left because at that point the team has all the power.

 

[Phurfur]

I can't see Walker getting cut. He's too good. Its not like he stunk the joint out. He just got injured. Alot of teams would be willing to pay him big bucks.

Alot of the Green Bay folks seem to be revisionist historians. Walker held out with two years left on his contract, but went back when Green Bay promised that they would renegotiate at the end of that season (plus Favre threw him under the bus). After he got injured, Green Bay did not want to renegotiate. With only 1 year left, Green Bay did not have the negotiating power because Walker could have just played the final 6 games of the season and then left. Green Bay allowed the situation to really fester.

The Denver situation is totally different. They would like for Walker to renegotiate, but they don't really have the power because alot of teams would be willing to pay this guy off if he passed the physicals.

Crazy..I don't know many teams that would extend a contract with two years left on it, especially a rookie contract. This isn't TO or Moss we're talking about here. The Packers handled it perfectly. Why in the heck would they extend his contract after he got hurt? What other team would to that? I think Walker will explore the open market, but may end up back in Denver after he realizes he's not going to get 7+ million on the open market.

I agree, Walker had two years left and was coming off a major injury. What team would rip up that deal? Walker should have been glad he had two years left.Go out and play, have a good year, then with a year left you do something.

No he didn't. Walker first threatened to hold out with two years left on his contract. After Favre made his infamous statements and the team agreed that they would renegotiate at the end of that season, Walker came back. He then got injured early in the season. He rehabed for the rest of the season. When he went back to management at the end of the season, they decided that they didn't want to renegotiate. Walker now only had a year left on his contract which gave him way more bargaining power. The team and him started to trade insults through the media until it came to a point that there was no way he was going to come back (unless it was for the last 6 games to finish his contract). The team was forced to trade him or else they would get nothing in return.The Denver situation is entirely different. Because Walker is quite talented when he is not injured, Denver has to know that a team would be willing to pay him off if he passes a physical and proves that he is healthy. Denver would like to renegotiate, but I think Walkers agent would advise him against it.

In both cases it is entirely business. Unfortunately in Green Bay, they allowed it to get very personal. I like Favre, but he should have never made those comments knowing the sway he holds in Green Bay. Maybe the media did take what he said and blew it up, but he would have been better served to just say "no comment".

This is so far from the truth it isn't worth commenting on. Where did you come up with all that crap? You should be a writer, fiction of course.

Besides the part where I said the team would renegotiate at he end of the season (that was said by Rosenhaus but never denied by the team) what is false or speculative?

1. After he got injured, Green Bay did not want to renegotiate. GB was never going to renegotiate.

2. With only 1 year left, Green Bay did not have the negotiating power because Walker could have just played the final 6 games of the season and then left.

Walker refused to play for GB and demanded to be traded

3. Green Bay allowed the situation to really fester.

GB traded him as he requested

1. That's laughable. You really don't think Green Bay would have renegotiated if he put up similar numbers to the year before. You have no idea how the business of the NFL works.2. If Green Bay would not have traded him, Walker would have reported for the last 6 games (speculative). This is a common tactic for players holding out who want to finish their contract. Walker had Green Bay over a barrel and their only option was to trade him or get nothing for him at the end of the season.

3. Something that Green Bay did really upset Walker. All of a sudden he went from holding out to saying he will retire before he plays with them again.

You really need to take off the homer glasses and look at the situation as how it played out. It was typical NFL business that turned into a soap opera. And that had as much to do with Green Bay mangement and Favre as it did with Walker.

In reply to your second point.If this is so common can you remember the last time a player did this. I can only think of Joey Galloway in Seatle years ago. Feel free to add to the list.

You continue to make things up as you argue.

And I am not a homer but have friend that live in Wisconsin.

It only takes one guy to do this. Galloway was the examle I was going to use (Seattle is my favorite team). When I said it is a common tactic I should have clarified that it is common knowledge that players can do this to play out a contract year. Rarely do teams allow this to happen because they do want to get something for their asset. The NFL player really does have the superior bargaining power in the last year of a contract. Especially when their stock is high. I'll agree that it was pointless for Walker to do this with two years left because at that point the team has all the power.

Yeah, ask Lance Briggs about that.

 

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2. If Green Bay would not have traded him, Walker would have reported for the last 6 games (speculative). This is a common tactic for players holding out who want to finish their contract. Walker had Green Bay over a barrel and their only option was to trade him or get nothing for him at the end of the season.

I'd like to see a list of NFL players that have done this. Even one or two.

 

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2. If Green Bay would not have traded him, Walker would have reported for the last 6 games (speculative). This is a common tactic for players holding out who want to finish their contract. Walker had Green Bay over a barrel and their only option was to trade him or get nothing for him at the end of the season.

I'd like to see a list of NFL players that have done this. Even one or two.

How about McCardell?