Mookie Blaylock
Footballguy
Is this sort of a hobby for some of you? Why would Mangini go away from anything Harrison? Does he have a history of benching backs after they have franchise record setting games?
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Jerome Harrison-This Year's Playoff Winner? (1 Viewer)
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ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Giving him strong consideration over Ricky this week. Good problem to have, but still a tough call. I cannot see Harrison not getting 18+ touches in this game after what he just did, but Mangini gives me enough pause that I will probably play it safe with Ricky.
n20
Footballguy
Isn't there some stat out there that says an RB coming off a 250 yard + game doesn't have a good game the following week? I can't remember anymore but I think it was being thrown around when Jamal was tearing it up for the Ravens. Anyone remember what it was? If it was been true I'd hesitate to start him but then again it's against the Raiders.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Thats a good point actually. He does not really have that kind of reputation (like Shannahan/Kubiak) with his RBs. I guess week 14 is the sole reason for the lack of confidence in Harrison getting the touches this week, but since Harrison was sick, that kind of gets Mangini the mulligan on that particular instance. Its tough to bench him after that week. Unless you have 2 of MJD, AP, and CJ, you have to at least consider him. That said, I still dont have him in my lineup yet.
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Young 8
Footballguy
No, but this is MANGINIfrom "another" forum
Was it just me or did Mangini looked ticked when Harrison scored that last TD, it looked as if though he wanted Harrison to fall down at the 1 or something, he didn't look to happy for a guy that rushed for 280 yards and just scored his 3rd TD!
Not reported outside of the local area tv..as far as I've seen. You're the first one that mentioned it, but you're correct. He was mad. He was looking for clock wasting time. Weird really. We need all the points we can get. Dum reaction as far as im concerned.
Mookie Blaylock
Footballguy
My only concern - and it's a big one - is that the Raiders will absolutely load up the box and force Frye to try and beat them. I see Harrison getting a ton of touches but possibly not doing that much with them. I see the possibility of Cribbs having a decent game as well.
OAK's last 5 games against the run are as follows:
@ DEN - 80/0
v. WAS - 100/2
@ PIT - 132/1
@ DAL - 195/1
v. CIN - 177/2
I'd say the PIT, DAL and CIN passing games are good to respectable. DEN and WAS had trouble running the ball and have sub-par passing games. Just saying...
OAK's last 5 games against the run are as follows:
@ DEN - 80/0
v. WAS - 100/2
@ PIT - 132/1
@ DAL - 195/1
v. CIN - 177/2
I'd say the PIT, DAL and CIN passing games are good to respectable. DEN and WAS had trouble running the ball and have sub-par passing games. Just saying...
Banger
Footballguy
He likely will but two weeks ago I thought he would too and after a few carries they started giving the ball to Jennings who ended up having a nice game vs. the Steelers. Also, the Raiders after getting gashed in the begining of the year seem to have stiffened recently. Last week vs. Den they gave up 24-69, Was vs 14-50-2 and Pitt the prior week 20-103-1.Mookie Blaylock said:
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Another good point, but it should also be recognized that Harrison is a good receiver out of the backfield. If he can catch a few passes it could offset an off day rushing. He had an off day rushing a few weeks ago, and was able to pull in 60ish receiving yards and 2 scores, making it a great fantasy day.My only concern - and it's a big one - is that the Raiders will absolutely load up the box and force Frye to try and beat them. I see Harrison getting a ton of touches but possibly not doing that much with them. I see the possibility of Cribbs having a decent game as well. OAK's last 5 games against the run are as followsDEN - 80/0v. WAS - 100/2@ PIT - 132/1@ DAL - 195/1v. CIN - 177/2I'd say the PIT, DAL and CIN passing games are good to respectable. DEN and WAS had trouble running the ball and have sub-par passing games. Just saying...
Mookie Blaylock
Footballguy
Yep. That's true. So who would be on the list of backs that would start over him this week?Another good point, but it should also be recognized that Harrison is a good receiver out of the backfield. If he can catch a few passes it could offset an off day rushing. He had an off day rushing a few weeks ago, and was able to pull in 60ish receiving yards and 2 scores, making it a great fantasy day.My only concern - and it's a big one - is that the Raiders will absolutely load up the box and force Frye to try and beat them. I see Harrison getting a ton of touches but possibly not doing that much with them. I see the possibility of Cribbs having a decent game as well. OAK's last 5 games against the run are as follows
Mookie Blaylock
Footballguy
It scares me that Carolina's been so porous vs. the run lately. I can't tell if that means good things for both backs or if Bradshaw will get the bulk of the money touches. Good luck with your decision.
Little Joe
Footballguy
+1 on jacobs. Current thinking is Harrison > Jacobs.
over Hightower, Forsett, Ganther, Julius Jones, and J. Stewart
Max Fischer
Footballguy
I'm considering starting him over Wells, but I haven't made made up my mind yet. I also have D. Williams (hurt), and Knowshon. My gut tells me Wells, but it's a tough call.
omally
Footballguy
Carolina has lost 4 defensive tackles and two linebackers this season. They are all sitting on IR now.
Mookie Blaylock
Footballguy
I'd say that equates to porous, wouldn't you?
MCguidance
Footballguy
the rover
Footballguy
Tough for the Raiders to have to defend against the opposing team and their own QB trying to beat them, but it's been happening all year.
Irish Chaos
Footballguy
Think im rolling with him over SJ. Its a gamble but Sj agaisnt zona just doesnt seem too appealing...
omally
Footballguy
Yes, that's why I wrote it.
Mookie Blaylock
Footballguy
Damnit. Well who the hell is the other QB for the Browns?!!ETA: Anderson.
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Well, don't forget when a lot of people picked him up against his huge game against the Bengals and he was practically invisible the next. Two times he had two great games and didn't get a lot of carries the next game. It is possible that he might not get a lot of carries against Oakland. Not saying I wouldn't roll with him, but I wouldn't go overboard and call him a must start stud just yet. Especially if it's a blowout and they want to give Jennings another look. There's still enough upside to keep Harrison in your lineups though.
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n20
Footballguy
It's not bad at all. 100+ yards means there's a great chance for a TD. Thank you for looking that up!Lemme check that huge sample sizeeterson - 11-45Lewis- 23-132Harrison -??Dillon - 27-137Payton- 20-137OJ- 24-203ALexander- 25-93 Anderson- 29-131OJ- 22-103Too small of a sample size - but it's not all bad, eh?
Instinctive
Footballguy
Yeah...I agree with all the people saying he isn't a must start...assuming he's going in for an RB1 guy. As a flex, and potentially as an RB2, you better have some absolutely fantastic guys going to sit him.
SD Phootballers
Footballguy
UnknownCoach
Footballguy
Instinctive
Footballguy
And away we go!
Instinctive
Footballguy
17 yards and a TD to start. 50 yards or so more and he's done plenty in my book...but I sure as hell hope he gets more xD
LordHusker
Hot sauce addict
Oof.
Obviously, I was wrong. Good luck to you guys who started Harrison. You have more nads than I do. Happy holidays!
Obviously, I was wrong. Good luck to you guys who started Harrison. You have more nads than I do. Happy holidays!
Instinctive
Footballguy
As of right now, I'm of the opinion that the entire second half is gravy
MCguidance
Footballguy
Harrison 36-144-1Could have been better if not for that penalty on his second TD run.It's not bad at all. 100+ yards means there's a great chance for a TD. Thank you for looking that up!Lemme check that huge sample size
Lewis- 23-132
Harrison -??
Dillon - 27-137
Payton- 20-137
OJ- 24-203
ALexander- 25-93
Anderson- 29-131
OJ- 22-103
Too small of a sample size - but it's not all bad, eh?
Instinctive
Footballguy
or the idiotic fumble on the goallineHarrison 36-144-1Could have been better if not for that penalty on his second TD run.It's not bad at all. 100+ yards means there's a great chance for a TD. Thank you for looking that up!Lemme check that huge sample size
Lewis- 23-132
Harrison -??
Dillon - 27-137
Payton- 20-137
OJ- 24-203
ALexander- 25-93
Anderson- 29-131
OJ- 22-103
Too small of a sample size - but it's not all bad, eh?
MCguidance
Footballguy
Yeah, that came after the penalty though. It was nice to see Mangini still with him though, not that he had much of a choice.or the idiotic fumble on the goallineHarrison 36-144-1Could have been better if not for that penalty on his second TD run.It's not bad at all. 100+ yards means there's a great chance for a TD. Thank you for looking that up!Lemme check that huge sample size
Lewis- 23-132
Harrison -??
Dillon - 27-137
Payton- 20-137
OJ- 24-203
ALexander- 25-93
Anderson- 29-131
OJ- 22-103
Too small of a sample size - but it's not all bad, eh?
Instinctive
Footballguy
Either way, in my 2 playoff games (week 14 bye) he netted me 80 points. His play combined with Gates suddenylfinding the endzone, Ryan Grant and the Cards D may very well have won me the league...
ETA: it seems as though this was about as accurate a prediction as we've seen in quite some time
ETA: it seems as though this was about as accurate a prediction as we've seen in quite some time
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Instinctive
Footballguy
The totals for week 15 and 16 are:
434 rush yards, 4 rush TDs
You'd have to ask Chase...but has there ever been a better 2 games by a RB to end the season? I don't even think DeAngelo last year had that
434 rush yards, 4 rush TDs
You'd have to ask Chase...but has there ever been a better 2 games by a RB to end the season? I don't even think DeAngelo last year had that
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Instinctive
Footballguy
oo. I played the MJD owner this week. Also, not that anyone really cares, but I put my money where my mouth is on my picks, starting Harrison and Grant as my RBs this week...over All Day. 50 point lead
the rover
Footballguy
Harrison was a nice call. Started him over Grant. pretty much a wash in PPR.
Please See Mine
Footballguy
2000 Marshall Faulk appears to have been the best weeks 15 and 16 ever.Rushes Rush Yds Rec Rec Yds TDs25 135 6 43 422 79 4 53 4Week 17 not too shabby.32 220 7 41 3
Instinctive
Footballguy
^wow
Held onto him all year, hopefully I can rope in a gullible owner in overpaying.
az_prof
Footballguy
In Dynasty I would seek a first and take whatever first you can get.
Would you take an 11 or 12 pick for him? If that was the best I was offered I'd hold.
