Jerricho Cotchery (1 Viewer)

[Carter_Can_Fly]

I recently selected Cotchery in the 8th round of a dynasty draft and was excited to see him fall so far. With the addition of Thomas Jones and a healthy Pennington I see his numbers only improving on a solid season last year.

Cotchery at the age of 25 had 82 receptions for 961 yards and 6 TD's. He has shown the proper learning curve of a young WR getting better every season and blowing up last year in his 3rd year in the league. "That third year theory principle."

With Coles on one side keeping defenses honest I see Cotchery being a consistent WR 2 this year. Is anyone else with me?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Yes.

 

[Warpig]

Yes.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

I should have made this a poll.

So far 3 yes and 0 no. There now it is a poll as well.

 

[David Yudkin]

Short term, I guess it depends on how you view the Jets overall. IMO, improving defense + addition of TJones + less injuries at RB + somewhat conservative coach = more rushing attempts. Even though the Jets ran the ball 490+ times last year, I'm guessing that they will try to run even more. How that impacts the passing game is open for debate . . .

 

[code]

He was a WR2 in our league last year...I'm not high on the guy, but the numbers support it...

 

[LHUCKS]

limited upside

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

limited upside

I agree with this. I see him as a Derrick Mason type player. A consistent WR 2 for the next while but never going to be elite.

 

[Warlord]

Definitely worth a flyer on, don't know where he's being drafted ADP. I'm looking at Cotchery in my keeper league, to back up Coles. Coles is alot like Joe Horn. You could count on him playing thru injuries and putting up great numbers. Well Coles is getting to the point of his career that he could miss time with an injury. Coles was viewed as fragile coming into the league but proved exactlly the opposite. Jerricho Cotchery will start putting up Coles numbers someday maybe soon.

 

[corpcow]

limited upside

In what sense? I've always been a fan since he first joined us. I would expect at least similar production for awhile... I don't think this was a fluke year by any means.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Definitely worth a flyer on, don't know where he's being drafted ADP. I'm looking at Cotchery in my keeper league, to back up Coles. Coles is alot like Joe Horn. You could count on him playing thru injuries and putting up great numbers. Well Coles is getting to the point of his career that he could miss time with an injury. Coles was viewed as fragile coming into the league but proved exactlly the opposite. Jerricho Cotchery will start putting up Coles numbers someday maybe soon.

Last year Cotchery put up Coles like numbers, not elite, but WR 2 type numbers. I think he already is putting up those numbers and will continue to do so.Having Coles on the other side helps Cotchery more then it hurts him IMO.

 

[LHUCKS]

limited upside

In what sense? I've always been a fan since he first joined us. I would expect at least similar production for awhile... I don't think this was a fluke year by any means.

I expect similar production as well, but for my WR2, I'm usually looking for a guy that has a 900/6 floor, not ceiling.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

limited upside

In what sense? I've always been a fan since he first joined us. I would expect at least similar production for awhile... I don't think this was a fluke year by any means.

I expect similar production as well, but for my WR2, I'm usually looking for a guy that has a 900/6 floor, not ceiling.

I see what you are saying, but I am looking for my WR2 to put up WR2 numbers. If Cotchery duplicates last season he will again be a WR 2. I think he duplicates those numbers and therfore making him a good WR 2.

 

[corpcow]

Short term, I guess it depends on how you view the Jets overall. IMO, improving defense + addition of TJones + less injuries at RB + somewhat conservative coach = more rushing attempts. Even though the Jets ran the ball 490+ times last year, I'm guessing that they will try to run even more. How that impacts the passing game is open for debate . . .

We may have run a lot, but I would not call The Penguin and Shotty "conservative". They were very creative on offense...

 

[LHUCKS]

I see what you are saying, but I am looking for my WR2 to put up WR2 numbers.

Not to be a smartass, but that sounds a lot like how you finish in 4th place.

 

[David Yudkin]

Short term, I guess it depends on how you view the Jets overall. IMO, improving defense + addition of TJones + less injuries at RB + somewhat conservative coach = more rushing attempts. Even though the Jets ran the ball 490+ times last year, I'm guessing that they will try to run even more. How that impacts the passing game is open for debate . . .

We may have run a lot, but I would not call The Penguin and Shotty "conservative". They were very creative on offense...

Creative, yes. But they had more rushes than passes so it's not like they aired it out all game long. From the times I saw them last year (admittedly not a lot), they seemed content to run if winning and passed when far behind (well, duh, that's what teams do). If they are better on defense and get ahead (or are in tight low scoring games), I still think they had (will again have?) a tendancy to run a lot and throw safe passes. All bets are off if they start getting behind (a la the Pats game) though.

 

[corpcow]

limited upside

In what sense? I've always been a fan since he first joined us. I would expect at least similar production for awhile... I don't think this was a fluke year by any means.

I expect similar production as well, but for my WR2, I'm usually looking for a guy that has a 900/6 floor, not ceiling.

I see what you are saying, but I am looking for my WR2 to put up WR2 numbers. If Cotchery duplicates last season he will again be a WR 2. I think he duplicates those numbers and therfore making him a good WR 2.

The thing that stands out for me is that it was not bust or boom with him. He was consistently involved in the offense. That's what I look for in a WR2 - someone you can count on week after week for consistent 7-10 pts - letting you take more of a risk with your WR3.But that's just me.And I think he's young and still improving, so that probably is a ceiling, not a floor. I'll take almost 1,100 yards and 7 TDs from my WR2 any day.

 

[Domination]

I see what you are saying, but I am looking for my WR2 to put up WR2 numbers.

Not to be a smartass, but that sounds a lot like how you finish in 4th place.

I think it is dependant on your team. I would also go the LHUCKS route and like more production out of my WR2, but if you go heavy in other positions than getting that production from Cotchery would help to solidify your team.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

I see what you are saying, but I am looking for my WR2 to put up WR2 numbers.

Not to be a smartass, but that sounds a lot like how you finish in 4th place.

I see what you are saying. Don't worry I love to find those fantasy players you are looking for, the reason I am hoping Cotchery is my WR 2 is because I gambled at other positions taking Turner in the 5th and solidifying RB power with Portis and Addai in rounds 1 and 2. Therefore my WR core became weakened. But this is not about my draft and what I did, but felt that Cotchery was being underrated.I just think that a 25 year old receiver that had such a great stat line last season was not getting enough credit.I don't see Cotchery disgressing so 1000-1200 yards and 6-9 TD's is not unreasonable and nice production out of a WR 2.

 

[corpcow]

Short term, I guess it depends on how you view the Jets overall. IMO, improving defense + addition of TJones + less injuries at RB + somewhat conservative coach = more rushing attempts. Even though the Jets ran the ball 490+ times last year, I'm guessing that they will try to run even more. How that impacts the passing game is open for debate . . .

We may have run a lot, but I would not call The Penguin and Shotty "conservative". They were very creative on offense...

Creative, yes. But they had more rushes than passes so it's not like they aired it out all game long. From the times I saw them last year (admittedly not a lot), they seemed content to run if winning and passed when far behind (well, duh, that's what teams do). If they are better on defense and get ahead (or are in tight low scoring games), I still think they had (will again have?) a tendancy to run a lot and throw safe passes. All bets are off if they start getting behind (a la the Pats game) though.

Fair enough - they're not a "pass-happy" team that's going to throw 2:1 for rushes, but they are balanced. Chad is one of the best play-action guys in the league, and this sets up both the rushing game and the passing game. Herm "Let's run it on 3rd and 26 even when we're down 21 pts" Edwards was a hell of a lot more conservative.(Disclosure: I'm a Jets fan, went to 2, and watched every other one).

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Cotchery finished the season as the 23rd ranked WR and 29th in PPG in FBG scoring. Thats BARELY a WR2 last year and add in the fact that players such as Stallworth, Fitzgerald, etc. were hurt, averaged more points per game, and who most people would draft ahead of Cotchery.

Can I name 24 WRs this year who I would draft ahead of Cotchery. YES.

In no order....

1. -Steve Smith

2. -Chad Johnson

3. -Torry Holt

4. -Marvin Harrison

5. -Reggie Wayne

6. -Larry Fitzgerald

7. -Anquan Boldin

8. -Terrell Owens

9. -Javon Walker

10. -Calvin Johnson

11. -Hines Ward

12. -Lee Evans

13. -Plaxico Burress

14. -T.J. Houshmanzadeh

15. -Marques Colston

16. -Roy Williams

17. -Donald Driver

18. -Darrell Jackson

19. -Andre Johnson

20. -Santana Moss

21. -Reggie Brown

22. -Laveranaues Coles

23. -Randy Moss

24. -Chris Chambers

Cotchery is NOT a WR2 IMO. Does he have the chance to end up as a WR2, of course, but I would not draft him for my #2 at all.

If people are willing to claim Cotchery as a WR2, then who would you replace him in those rankings? Also keep in mind, that list is not even including any other rookies besides Calvin Johnson, and does not include players such as Deion Branch, Stallworth, Terry Glenn, Braylon Edwards, etc.

 

[corpcow]

I see what you are saying, but I am looking for my WR2 to put up WR2 numbers.

Not to be a smartass, but that sounds a lot like how you finish in 4th place.

No, it's about value, and as we all know getting value from your picks is how you win leagues.In most scoring, he was at or near the top 20 in 2006. In redraft or keep-few leagues, he was probably waiver wire material. He outscored guys like Fitzgerald and Santana Moss who many probably drafted as WR1. Cotchery is also young and up-and-coming and I expect improvement from him. (As OP said, he hit his stride in the proverbial third year, and having the QB and coaching situation settled certainly helps). Obviously I don't think he's going to be waiver material this year, but he certainly seems to be underrated. I know Colston was a rookie and all, but their numbers were fairly similar last year. A lot of people are going to be taking Colston as WR1 this year in the early mid rounds....

 

[fridayfrenzy]

May I also say that your poll is FLAWED.

In your title you ask if Cotchery is underrated and the poll question is if he is a #2 WR.

I would say that Cotchery is underrated, but not a #2 WR.

 

[fsufan]

I recently selected Cotchery in the 8th round of a dynasty draft and was excited to see him fall so far. With the addition of Thomas Jones and a healthy Pennington I see his numbers only improving on a solid season last year.

Cotchery at the age of 25 had 82 receptions for 961 yards and 6 TD's. He has shown the proper learning curve of a young WR getting better every season and blowing up last year in his 3rd year in the league. "That third year theory principle."

With Coles on one side keeping defenses honest I see Cotchery being a consistent WR 2 this year. Is anyone else with me?

GREAT value for a young WR that finished in the top 20 last year

 

[LHUCKS]

No, it's about value, and as we all know getting value from your picks is how you win leagues.

thanks for the memo on how to win leagues.

In most scoring, he was at or near the top 20 in 2006. In redraft or keep-few leagues, he was probably waiver wire material. He outscored guys like Fitzgerald and Santana Moss who many probably drafted as WR1.

we know all of this, although Fitz and Moss were injured

Cotchery is also young and up-and-coming and I expect improvement from him.

Why?

but he certainly seems to be underrated.

Based on what ADP data?

I know Colston was a rookie and all, but their numbers were fairly similar last year. A lot of people are going to be taking Colston as WR1 this year in the early mid rounds....

Colston played injured the second half of the season and missed several games and was rested for the playoffs at the very end of the regular season. Are you suggesting Cotchery is in the same tier as Colston?

 

[fridayfrenzy]

In most scoring, he was at or near the top 20 in 2006. In redraft or keep-few leagues, he was probably waiver wire material. He outscored guys like Fitzgerald and Santana Moss who many probably drafted as WR1.

Fitzgerald and Moss averaged more points per game than Cotchery and Cotchery only finished ahead of them because of injuries. This year, most sane people would draft Fitz and S. Moss ahead of Cotchery?

 

[fridayfrenzy]

I recently selected Cotchery in the 8th round of a dynasty draft and was excited to see him fall so far. With the addition of Thomas Jones and a healthy Pennington I see his numbers only improving on a solid season last year.

Cotchery at the age of 25 had 82 receptions for 961 yards and 6 TD's. He has shown the proper learning curve of a young WR getting better every season and blowing up last year in his 3rd year in the league. "That third year theory principle."

With Coles on one side keeping defenses honest I see Cotchery being a consistent WR 2 this year. Is anyone else with me?

GREAT value for a young WR that finished in the top 20 last year

He finished 23rd in FBG scoring. Not top 20.

 

[LHUCKS]

we're comparing apples to oranges if we're saying he's "undervalued" but with no baseline for ADP.

As a WR#2(or top 24 ranking) he is definitely not undervalued.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Carter_can_fly, who would you draft Cotchery ahead of in this list?

1. -Steve Smith

2. -Chad Johnson

3. -Torry Holt

4. -Marvin Harrison

5. -Reggie Wayne

6. -Larry Fitzgerald

7. -Anquan Boldin

8. -Terrell Owens

9. -Javon Walker

10. -Calvin Johnson

11. -Hines Ward

12. -Lee Evans

13. -Plaxico Burress

14. -T.J. Houshmanzadeh

15. -Marques Colston

16. -Roy Williams

17. -Donald Driver

18. -Darrell Jackson

19. -Andre Johnson

20. -Santana Moss

21. -Reggie Brown

22. -Laveranaues Coles

23. -Randy Moss

24. -Chris Chambers

 

[fsufan]

I recently selected Cotchery in the 8th round of a dynasty draft and was excited to see him fall so far. With the addition of Thomas Jones and a healthy Pennington I see his numbers only improving on a solid season last year.

Cotchery at the age of 25 had 82 receptions for 961 yards and 6 TD's. He has shown the proper learning curve of a young WR getting better every season and blowing up last year in his 3rd year in the league. "That third year theory principle."

With Coles on one side keeping defenses honest I see Cotchery being a consistent WR 2 this year. Is anyone else with me?

GREAT value for a young WR that finished in the top 20 last year

He finished 23rd in FBG scoring. Not top 20.

2 of my leagues he finished 17th1 PT/10 yards

6 PTs TDs

no PPR

but what is the difference in the #17 WR and #23, not a point I bet

 

[corpcow]

Cotchery finished the season as the 23rd ranked WR and 29th in PPG in FBG scoring. Thats BARELY a WR2 last year and add in the fact that players such as Stallworth, Fitzgerald, etc. were hurt, averaged more points per game, and who most people would draft ahead of Cotchery. Can I name 24 WRs this year who I would draft ahead of Cotchery. YES. In no order....1. -Steve Smith2. -Chad Johnson3. -Torry Holt4. -Marvin Harrison5. -Reggie Wayne6. -Larry Fitzgerald 7. -Anquan Boldin8. -Terrell Owens9. -Javon Walker10. -Calvin Johnson11. -Hines Ward12. -Lee Evans13. -Plaxico Burress14. -T.J. Houshmanzadeh15. -Marques Colston16. -Roy Williams17. -Donald Driver18. -Darrell Jackson19. -Andre Johnson20. -Santana Moss21. -Reggie Brown22. -Laveranaues Coles23. -Randy Moss24. -Chris ChambersCotchery is NOT a WR2 IMO. Does he have the chance to end up as a WR2, of course, but I would not draft him for my #2 at all.If people are willing to claim Cotchery as a WR2, then who would you replace him in those rankings? Also keep in mind, that list is not even including any other rookies besides Calvin Johnson, and does not include players such as Deion Branch, Stallworth, Terry Glenn, Braylon Edwards, etc.

Again, value value value. I expect better production from Cotchery this year as compared to last, and you'll get him a lot later than most of the guys on that list in both dynasty and redraft. I'll also point out that he's targeted heavily in the red zone. I recall one time early in the season where he was targeted 3 straight times in the end zone, 2 of which were called back because of penalties, until he eventually caught the TD.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

1. -Steve Smith2. -Chad Johnson3. -Torry Holt4. -Marvin Harrison5. -Reggie Wayne6. -Larry Fitzgerald 7. -Anquan Boldin8. -Terrell Owens9. -Javon Walker10. -Calvin Johnson11. -Hines Ward12. -Lee Evans13. -Plaxico Burress14. -T.J. Houshmanzadeh15. -Marques Colston16. -Roy Williams17. -Donald Driver18. -Darrell Jackson19. -Andre Johnson20. -Santana Moss21. -Reggie Brown22. -Laveranaues Coles23. -Randy Moss24. -Chris ChambersCotchery is NOT a WR2 IMO. Does he have the chance to end up as a WR2, of course, but I would not draft him for my #2 at all.If people are willing to claim Cotchery as a WR2, then who would you replace him in those rankings? Also keep in mind, that list is not even including any other rookies besides Calvin Johnson, and does not include players such as Deion Branch, Stallworth, Terry Glenn, Braylon Edwards, etc.

If you're talking PPR...You have Calvin Johnson far too high. He's not going to take that many catches away from both Williams an Furrey to be up there as a rookie.Andre Johnson is too low.I would draft Cotchery ahead of Darrell Jackson (and by default anyone below him on your list .)

 

[corpcow]

Carter_can_fly, who would you draft Cotchery ahead of in this list?

Again, you're missing the point. It's likely those guys are already gone in the 8th round. You just got someone putting up similar numbers and were able to put the early mid-round picks to better use.Not to mention he's younger than most on that list, and thus has more upside to his numbers.

 

[zamboni]

limited upside

In what sense? I've always been a fan since he first joined us. I would expect at least similar production for awhile... I don't think this was a fluke year by any means.

Agreed. If anything, I think we've seen Coles' upside, while IMO Cotch can improve on his numbers. Don't forget last year was his first year as a starter. Like Coles, he's tough as nails, runs solid routes, and has great hands.I think as long as Chad is back there, he'll still slightly favor Coles due to the long-term familiarity factor, but Chad was throwing more and more to Cotch as the season wore on. And if/when Clemens takes over, it could definitely be a changing of the guard at WR.A good point was brought up with the team running the ball a lot, which could possibly be a constraining factor. If the defense plays well and keeps the offense off the field, while the running game clicks, that could definitely limit passing opportunities. And you also have two very good pass catching RBs in Jones and Leon as dump off options.

 

[corpcow]

limited upside

In what sense? I've always been a fan since he first joined us. I would expect at least similar production for awhile... I don't think this was a fluke year by any means.

I expect similar production as well, but for my WR2, I'm usually looking for a guy that has a 900/6 floor, not ceiling.

Where do you get this 900/6 ceiling? I said AT LEAST... that would imply a floor, not a ceiling.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Carter_can_fly, who would you draft Cotchery ahead of in this list?

Again, you're missing the point. It's likely those guys are already gone in the 8th round. You just got someone putting up similar numbers and were able to put the early mid-round picks to better use.Not to mention he's younger than most on that list, and thus has more upside to his numbers.

Am I mis-reading the poll question?Is it not asking if Cotchery is a WR2, meaning a top 24 WR. Does Cotchery present some value, sure, but thats not the question or the topic at hand.

 

[corpcow]

we're comparing apples to oranges if we're saying he's "undervalued" but with no baseline for ADP.As a WR#2(or top 24 ranking) he is definitely not undervalued.

You realize this whole discussion was whether he he would put up WR2-like numbers, because he wasn't being drafted in a position that would reflect that? (And thus, that he's undervalued).

 

[fridayfrenzy]

1. -Steve Smith2. -Chad Johnson3. -Torry Holt4. -Marvin Harrison5. -Reggie Wayne6. -Larry Fitzgerald 7. -Anquan Boldin8. -Terrell Owens9. -Javon Walker10. -Calvin Johnson11. -Hines Ward12. -Lee Evans13. -Plaxico Burress14. -T.J. Houshmanzadeh15. -Marques Colston16. -Roy Williams17. -Donald Driver18. -Darrell Jackson19. -Andre Johnson20. -Santana Moss21. -Reggie Brown22. -Laveranaues Coles23. -Randy Moss24. -Chris ChambersCotchery is NOT a WR2 IMO. Does he have the chance to end up as a WR2, of course, but I would not draft him for my #2 at all.If people are willing to claim Cotchery as a WR2, then who would you replace him in those rankings? Also keep in mind, that list is not even including any other rookies besides Calvin Johnson, and does not include players such as Deion Branch, Stallworth, Terry Glenn, Braylon Edwards, etc.

If you're talking PPR...You have Calvin Johnson far too high. He's not going to take that many catches away from both Williams an Furrey to be up there as a rookie.Andre Johnson is too low.I would draft Cotchery ahead of Darrell Jackson (and by default anyone below him on your list .)

These aren't rankings, simply a list of WRs who I would draft ahead of Cotchery meaning that he is not a WR2 in my eyes.

 

[BostonSportsGuy]

limited upside

In what sense? I've always been a fan since he first joined us. I would expect at least similar production for awhile... I don't think this was a fluke year by any means.

I expect similar production as well, but for my WR2, I'm usually looking for a guy that has a 900/6 floor, not ceiling.

Where do you get this 900/6 ceiling? I said AT LEAST... that would imply a floor, not a ceiling.

I agree. His upside is much higher than someone like DJax, Galloway, Driver or Evans. He is definitely a solid weekly #2. AND he is CONSISTENT (more so than some #1s).

 

[LHUCKS]

I agree. His upside is much higher than someone like DJax, Galloway, Driver or Evans.

Wow...totally disagree about every single one of the players you mentioned.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Cotchery is good.

 

[BostonSportsGuy]

I agree. His upside is much higher than someone like DJax, Galloway, Driver or Evans.

Wow...totally disagree about every single one of the players you mentioned.

Really? Good for you.

 

[LHUCKS]

limited upside

In what sense? I've always been a fan since he first joined us. I would expect at least similar production for awhile... I don't think this was a fluke year by any means.

I expect similar production as well, but for my WR2, I'm usually looking for a guy that has a 900/6 floor, not ceiling.

Where do you get this 900/6 ceiling? I said AT LEAST... that would imply a floor, not a ceiling.

My opinion is that 900-1000/6-8 is his ceiling.

 

[LHUCKS]

I agree. His upside is much higher than someone like DJax, Galloway, Driver or Evans.

Wow...totally disagree about every single one of the players you mentioned.

Really? Good for you.

You should also know that every major website that has put out rankings also disagrees with you...by a wide margin...so you're right, good for me.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

1. -Steve Smith2. -Chad Johnson3. -Torry Holt4. -Marvin Harrison5. -Reggie Wayne6. -Larry Fitzgerald 7. -Anquan Boldin8. -Terrell Owens9. -Javon Walker10. -Calvin Johnson11. -Hines Ward12. -Lee Evans13. -Plaxico Burress14. -T.J. Houshmanzadeh15. -Marques Colston16. -Roy Williams17. -Donald Driver18. -Darrell Jackson19. -Andre Johnson20. -Santana Moss21. -Reggie Brown22. -Laveranaues Coles23. -Randy Moss24. -Chris ChambersCotchery is NOT a WR2 IMO. Does he have the chance to end up as a WR2, of course, but I would not draft him for my #2 at all.If people are willing to claim Cotchery as a WR2, then who would you replace him in those rankings? Also keep in mind, that list is not even including any other rookies besides Calvin Johnson, and does not include players such as Deion Branch, Stallworth, Terry Glenn, Braylon Edwards, etc.

If you're talking PPR...You have Calvin Johnson far too high. He's not going to take that many catches away from both Williams an Furrey to be up there as a rookie.Andre Johnson is too low.I would draft Cotchery ahead of Darrell Jackson (and by default anyone below him on your list .)

These aren't rankings, simply a list of WRs who I would draft ahead of Cotchery meaning that he is not a WR2 in my eyes.

Oh. Regardless, I'd still rank him ahead of Darrell Jackson, Santana Moss, Reggie Brown, and Chris Chambers.I see your point though. He's a low #2, but a very, very high #3.

 

[BostonSportsGuy]

I agree. His upside is much higher than someone like DJax, Galloway, Driver or Evans.

Wow...totally disagree about every single one of the players you mentioned.

Really? Good for you.

You should also know that every major website that has put out rankings also disagrees with you...by a wide margin...so you're right, good for me.

The same sites also had Shaun Alexander (who I stayed away from and took Steven Jackson) rated as the #1/2 RB last year? Glad to see you think for yourself.

 

[corpcow]

Carter_can_fly, who would you draft Cotchery ahead of in this list?

Again, you're missing the point. It's likely those guys are already gone in the 8th round. You just got someone putting up similar numbers and were able to put the early mid-round picks to better use.Not to mention he's younger than most on that list, and thus has more upside to his numbers.

Am I mis-reading the poll question?Is it not asking if Cotchery is a WR2, meaning a top 24 WR. Does Cotchery present some value, sure, but thats not the question or the topic at hand.

One of us is ... From Carter_Can_Fly's original post, and the subtitle that says "underrated", I certainly took at that this comes down in part to value. Cotchery was drafted in a place that suggests many don't think he will put up top 24 production. I personally think he will, as I've said above. It's not a question of whether you would draft him before those other guys - it's a question of whether you would feel comfortable having him in your starting roster as your WR2.I do think he'll finish top 24, but that doesn't mean I'm advocating picking him with top 24. (I'd also point out that in 14-16 team leagues, he's a clear WR2 )

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Carter_can_fly, who would you draft Cotchery ahead of in this list?

Again, you're missing the point. It's likely those guys are already gone in the 8th round. You just got someone putting up similar numbers and were able to put the early mid-round picks to better use.Not to mention he's younger than most on that list, and thus has more upside to his numbers.

Am I mis-reading the poll question?Is it not asking if Cotchery is a WR2, meaning a top 24 WR. Does Cotchery present some value, sure, but thats not the question or the topic at hand.

One of us is ... From Carter_Can_Fly's original post, and the subtitle that says "underrated", I certainly took at that this comes down in part to value. Cotchery was drafted in a place that suggests many don't think he will put up top 24 production. I personally think he will, as I've said above. It's not a question of whether you would draft him before those other guys - it's a question of whether you would feel comfortable having him in your starting roster as your WR2.I do think he'll finish top 24, but that doesn't mean I'm advocating picking him with top 24. (I'd also point out that in 14-16 team leagues, he's a clear WR2 )

That is why this poll is flawed. The title question is different than the poll question and hence flawed results.I guarantee some people have answered "yes" that Cotchery is underrated, but don't think he is or should be drafted as a WR2.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Carter_can_fly, who would you draft Cotchery ahead of in this list? 1. -Steve Smith2. -Chad Johnson3. -Torry Holt4. -Marvin Harrison5. -Reggie Wayne6. -Larry Fitzgerald 7. -Anquan Boldin8. -Terrell Owens9. -Javon Walker10. -Calvin Johnson11. -Hines Ward12. -Lee Evans13. -Plaxico Burress14. -T.J. Houshmanzadeh15. -Marques Colston16. -Roy Williams17. -Donald Driver18. -Darrell Jackson19. -Andre Johnson20. -Santana Moss21. -Reggie Brown22. -Laveranaues Coles23. -Randy Moss24. -Chris Chambers

In dynasty for sure I would take him ahead ofLaveranaues Coles: Cotchery is younger and you will get similar production with a ceiling we have yet to see from Cotchery as he just begins to enter his prime.Chris Chambers: One of the most overrated WR's in my opinion. Only once in 6 years has he had more then 69 receptions in a season. In 2005 Chambers best year he had 82 receptions which Cothcery equalled last season.Maybe's Darell Jackson due to his injury concerns and he is also going to an offense much less receiver friendly than Seattle.Santana Moss: I hate his inconsistency.Reggie Brown: Philly spreads the ball around a lot. Brown is only 1 year younger and he only caught 46 balls last season. I couldn't see myself drafting him over much more then that, however, the good thing about Cotchery is you can have him much later than these guys and he will likely finish just as well and better than many of them. Therefore you could strenghten other positions and still find a WR 2 like Cotchery later in the draft.

 

[corpcow]

I agree. His upside is much higher than someone like DJax, Galloway, Driver or Evans.

Wow...totally disagree about every single one of the players you mentioned.

Driver is 32, and Favre (probably) won't be around forever. He is, at the very least, near the peak of his career - I don't see much "upside" beyond his production the past few years. It also wasn't until his 4th year that he really did anything, so Cotchery is ahead of the curve there. Galloway is going to be *36* this season. He had similar production to Cotchery last year.How can you say either of these guys have anywhere to go but down?