Jerry Angelo for GM of the Year? (1 Viewer)

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

It continued today with the trade for Darwin Walker. He will provide depth and experience to a young DT rotation. He is 6-3 294 and perfect for the Bears gap penetrating scheme. The only hang up would be his contract, which I am sure would be worked out.

Angelo has added players that fit the Bears scheme all offseason.

-Anthony Adams is a quicker version of Ian Scott.

-Lose Tank Johnson, which I totally respect the Bears organization for outright cutting him. Then they add Darwin Walker(see above) to replace him.

-Adam Archuleta knows the system from his days with Lovie and is a great calculated risk. Considering all Safteys are returning except Todd Johnson, why not bring in a player that had his best days in Lovie's system with the Rams.

-Lance Briggs situation. He is signed and in camp. The Bears will let him go next offseason and turn the reins over to Jamar Williams or Michael Okwo. Both very athletic Will linebackers that, like Briggs, were third round picks.

-The resigning of Charles Tillman and Nathan Vasher before they hit the marker next offseason. He signed both of them to .8 million more per year than Nate Clements.

-Drafting players in the draft that will contribute right away to this Super Bowl runner-up.

-Greg Olsen will give the Bears the best TE option since......Ditka. At 6-5 and running a 4.5, he will help everyone on offense.

-Dan Bazuin gives the Bears another pass rusher with a relentless motor. This is a guy that was needed during the last half of the season to give Wale and Brown a breather.

-Garrett Wolfe is already making headlines in practice because of his quickness, speed, and playmaking ability outof the backfield. He has great hands and will be the best 3rd down RB the Bears have had since Robert Green or Dennis Gentry.

-He signed all of his draft picks before camp started and the first team to sign a 1st round pick.

-Traded away Thomas Jones, who is not as talented or as good of a fit for the Bears running scheme, for Garrett Wolfe, Dan Bazuin, and a 2008 3rd round pick.

-Let Ron Rivera go, who while a very talented D-coordinator, couldn't adjust in the playoffs (see the Panthers and Colts playoff games) and isn't an ideal fit running Lovie's cover 2 scheme.

I think he does a fantastic job and doesn't get as much credit as he deserves.

 

[shadyridr]

Isnt Rex Grossman still the starting QB?

 

[rabidfireweasel]

It might just be a little premature. Usually, the results of games impact these awards.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Isnt Rex Grossman still the starting QB?

Is this the same Rex Grossman that had more TD's passing last season than the Bears QB's from the two previous seasons combines? I think so....3200 yards and 23 TDs in Chicago is pretty damn good.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

It might just be a little premature. Usually, the results of games impact these awards.

Usually, the games happen toward the last half of the year. Thus far, I believe he deserves a lot of credit.

 

[Zigg]

I hate the Bears, but agree with almost all of it, except the Jones trade. Not a good move in my opinion.

 

[Phlash]

I think Rexy will be more Sexy next season.

Seriously, he had some sick games last year along with some horrible ones. It was also his first year starting. If a rookie QB threw for 3100 yards and 23 TDs his first season, we'd all be calling him the next great QB.

 

[Klecko HOF]

Jerry Angelo has done a great job with this team. His drafts have been terrific, overall and he has added a big piece to a Super Bowl contender.

Good DT's are very rare in the NFL. To sign one like Darwin Walker and have him line up alongside an All Pro is a complete coup.

Dusty Dvorcek now doesn't have that added pressure. He can provide quality depth.

Excellent move, imo.

 

[jeff1013]

If there is a running back who gets less respect than Jones that doesn't deserve it, I dont know who it is. Did you not just watch the last two years? Averaging 1300 yards with 15 tds doesn't sound like he struggled and wasn't right for the system. Also this was with a suspect passing game. Bensen and Chicago Bears fans can only hope he matches it. I understand the trade with a high round rb pick on the bench but I just wonder if they will regret it in the end.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

If there is a running back who gets less respect than Jones that doesn't deserve it, I dont know who it is. Did you not just watch the last two years? Averaging 1300 yards with 15 tds doesn't sound like he struggled and wasn't right for the system. Also this was with a suspect passing game. Bensen and Chicago Bears fans can only hope he matches it. I understand the trade with a high round rb pick on the bench but I just wonder if they will regret it in the end.

Average RB's have had success in Chicago. James Allen had over 1,000 yards, Anthony Thomas as well, then Thomas Jones. Actually, I have watched the last three years of mediocer play from him. He doesn't outrun anyone(often getting caught from behind), he doesn't overpower anyone, he rarely can make a guy miss , he doesn't break tackles well(often goes down easy after getting through the first level), and he has never scored a Recieving TD.I'm not a Thomas Jones hater by any means. I just don't think he is a special player. Thomas Jones doesn't get into trouble, he is a great locker room presence, he works hard, displays good effort, and I appreciate everything he has done for my Bears.However, I believe that the O-line made a huge difference for Thomas Jones. Look at the difference in numbers between his first year 2004 with the Bears to his last two 05-06. The oline improved and developed a sense of continuity.I obviously believe that Benson is a special player. I had him as the highest rated RB out of his draft class and believe he fits the Bears scheme perfectly.Would it be nice to have TJ backing him up? Yes, but I think getting a breakaway 3rd down back, a pass rushing DE, and a 3rd round pick will prove to be better than a vet backup RB.

 

[Tarlyn]

If there is a running back who gets less respect than Jones that doesn't deserve it, I dont know who it is. Did you not just watch the last two years? Averaging 1300 yards with 15 tds doesn't sound like he struggled and wasn't right for the system. Also this was with a suspect passing game. Bensen and Chicago Bears fans can only hope he matches it. I understand the trade with a high round rb pick on the bench but I just wonder if they will regret it in the end.

Average RB's have had success in Chicago. James Allen had over 1,000 yards, Anthony Thomas as well, then Thomas Jones. Actually, I have watched the last three years of mediocer play from him. He doesn't outrun anyone(often getting caught from behind), he doesn't overpower anyone, he rarely can make a guy miss , he doesn't break tackles well(often goes down easy after getting through the first level), and he has never scored a Recieving TD.I'm not a Thomas Jones hater by any means. I just don't think he is a special player. Thomas Jones doesn't get into trouble, he is a great locker room presence, he works hard, displays good effort, and I appreciate everything he has done for my Bears.However, I believe that the O-line made a huge difference for Thomas Jones. Look at the difference in numbers between his first year 2004 with the Bears to his last two 05-06. The oline improved and developed a sense of continuity.I obviously believe that Benson is a special player. I had him as the highest rated RB out of his draft class and believe he fits the Bears scheme perfectly.Would it be nice to have TJ backing him up? Yes, but I think getting a breakaway 3rd down back, a pass rushing DE, and a 3rd round pick will prove to be better than a vet backup RB.

I completely agree with this last post.....at first it might not have looked like we got alot for Jones but when it all plays out I think we got quite a bit for him. I also feel TJones while a great team player and a good player was not as good as the numbers show. I think he danced too much in the backfield....wasnt very fast or strong. Benson last year showed he can do the job if he can stay healthy which was his strong suit in college so with injuries we just have to hope for the best. I would love to have Jones for depth as well but that would mean no Wolfe or Bazuin and Jones wouldnt accept being backup anyway. He did a great job while here and we all knew he had to move on.

 

[Sweetness_34]

Jerry Angelo has been doing a great job for the last 5 years now....only now some people are starting to recognize it.

He has always recognized great talent in the draft and never been afraid to pull the trigger even if some hack thinks it is a reach - See Devin Hester in the 2nd, Charles Tillman in the 2nd, Daniel Manning in the 2nd etc

He has always found great value after the 2nd round of drafts .... see Mark Anderson (4th round), Alex Brown (4th round), Lance Briggs (3rd round), Nathan Vasher (4th round), Bernard Berrian (3rd round) etc

He has continuously rewarded the core players on the team WELL BEFORE they hit the FA market....see Urlacher, Mike Brown, Kreutz, Tillman, Vasher etc

He has shown to be very firm in terms of principles and has made tough decisions after being as fair as he can be. See Tank Johnson and Lance Briggs case.

He has always communicated very well with his head coach and picked players that fit the system....something a LOT OF GMS DO NOT GET.... see any draft picks the last few years and see their impact in our systems.

He has managed the cap brilliantly....no cap issues at all despite the success the last 2 years and this will only continue.

He has made some quality free agent signings - see OT John Tait (nice contract that prevented the CHiefs from matching it), Muhsin Muhammad (steady production at WR position and a great leader for the younger WRs), Thomas Jones for peanuts, Fred Miller etc

He has made excellent trades that have always served the Bears well - see getting Ogunleye for Booker (WRs are so easy to replace; pass rushing DL are not....Ogun has not had the stats since his probowl year but he provides very good pass rush and makes everyone on the DL better).

He has drafted the best DT in the league in the 1st round and this is despite not drafting all the way until #14, and this is a position that busts regularly in the NFL ....see Tommie Harris.....then see Jonathan Sullivan, the Penn State DT that the Rams drafted etc etc

He has stabilized the QB situation by getting solid back up in Griese and a young draftee in Orton. And as much as people love to bash Grossman, his stast in his 1st year starting are not really bad, people just do not want to accept it because it must be cool to bash Grossman.

This is why the Bears are going to contend for a long time...the man in charge is fantastic.

 

[kensat30]

Wonder how long it will take Chicago to figure out that Griese is better than Grossman?

 

[Phlash]

Mark Anderson/Marques Colston have got to be two of the best values in recent drafting history. Anderson was Pro-Bowl caliber last season... for a rookie 4th rounder that is just crazy.

 

[flapgreen]

Obviously, I love the guy too. You're the man, Jerry.

 

[switz]

It continued today with the trade for Darwin Walker. He will provide depth and experience to a young DT rotation. He is 6-3 294 and perfect for the Bears gap penetrating scheme. The only hang up would be his contract, which I am sure would be worked out.Angelo has added players that fit the Bears scheme all offseason.-Anthony Adams is a quicker version of Ian Scott.-Lose Tank Johnson, which I totally respect the Bears organization for outright cutting him. Then they add Darwin Walker(see above) to replace him.-Adam Archuleta knows the system from his days with Lovie and is a great calculated risk. Considering all Safteys are returning except Todd Johnson, why not bring in a player that had his best days in Lovie's system with the Rams.-Lance Briggs situation. He is signed and in camp. The Bears will let him go next offseason and turn the reins over to Jamar Williams or Michael Okwo. Both very athletic Will linebackers that, like Briggs, were third round picks.-The resigning of Charles Tillman and Nathan Vasher before they hit the marker next offseason. He signed both of them to .8 million more per year than Nate Clements. -Drafting players in the draft that will contribute right away to this Super Bowl runner-up.-Greg Olsen will give the Bears the best TE option since......Ditka. At 6-5 and running a 4.5, he will help everyone on offense.-Dan Bazuin gives the Bears another pass rusher with a relentless motor. This is a guy that was needed during the last half of the season to give Wale and Brown a breather.-Garrett Wolfe is already making headlines in practice because of his quickness, speed, and playmaking ability outof the backfield. He has great hands and will be the best 3rd down RB the Bears have had since Robert Green or Dennis Gentry.-He signed all of his draft picks before camp started and the first team to sign a 1st round pick.-Traded away Thomas Jones, who is not as talented or as good of a fit for the Bears running scheme, for Garrett Wolfe, Dan Bazuin, and a 2008 3rd round pick.-Let Ron Rivera go, who while a very talented D-coordinator, couldn't adjust in the playoffs (see the Panthers and Colts playoff games) and isn't an ideal fit running Lovie's cover 2 scheme.I think he does a fantastic job and doesn't get as much credit as he deserves.

- Anthony Adams is NOT an upgrade- Walker is overrated, but not a bad player. He breaks down alot, and Bears fans will be unhappy with him rather quickly.- Archuleta should have retired 4 years ago.- Briggs coming in was good.- overpaid for average CB.- Rookies might/might not cotribute- Olsen may bust- Wolfe is only viewed highliy in CHI- ooh, he did his JOB wow!- Lost the teams only good RB, and left an oft injured unproven overrated player to shoulder (no pun intended) the load- Lost a really good DC, and replace him with - Didn't address team's biggest need at QBNo one should be crowing about the Bears GM. He has NOT upgraded the team at all this season. However, if Grossman becomes anything less than terribly erratic, I'm sure the GM will get a ton of credit.

 

[switz]

If there is a running back who gets less respect than Jones that doesn't deserve it, I dont know who it is. Did you not just watch the last two years? Averaging 1300 yards with 15 tds doesn't sound like he struggled and wasn't right for the system. Also this was with a suspect passing game. Bensen and Chicago Bears fans can only hope he matches it. I understand the trade with a high round rb pick on the bench but I just wonder if they will regret it in the end.

Average RB's have had success in Chicago. James Allen had over 1,000 yards, Anthony Thomas as well, then Thomas Jones. Actually, I have watched the last three years of mediocer play from him. He doesn't outrun anyone(often getting caught from behind), he doesn't overpower anyone, he rarely can make a guy miss , he doesn't break tackles well(often goes down easy after getting through the first level), and he has never scored a Recieving TD.

I'm not a Thomas Jones hater by any means. I just don't think he is a special player. Thomas Jones doesn't get into trouble, he is a great locker room presence, he works hard, displays good effort, and I appreciate everything he has done for my Bears.

However, I believe that the O-line made a huge difference for Thomas Jones. Look at the difference in numbers between his first year 2004 with the Bears to his last two 05-06. The oline improved and developed a sense of continuity.

I obviously believe that Benson is a special player. I had him as the highest rated RB out of his draft class and believe he fits the Bears scheme perfectly.

Would it be nice to have TJ backing him up? Yes, but I think getting a breakaway 3rd down back, a pass rushing DE, and a 3rd round pick will prove to be better than a vet backup RB.

How exactly did he get all those yards? Talk about rewriting history to fit your designs.As for Benson - notwhere near the most talented RB in his class. And obviously, since being in the NFL, he's been outshined by Jones every season!!

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

GM of the year and what did he get for his starting RB ?

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

GM of the year and what did he get for his starting RB ?

He traded up 26 spots in the 2nd round. According to NFL teams' draft pick value chart, the difference in value between the 37th and 63rd picks equates to a 3rd round draft choice, which is the same thing the Bills got for McGahee. So according to the numbers, Angelo got market value for Jones.

 

[switz]

GM of the year and what did he get for his starting RB ?

He traded up 26 spots in the 2nd round. According to NFL teams' draft pick value chart, the difference in value between the 37th and 63rd picks equates to a 3rd round draft choice, which is the same thing the Bills got for McGahee. So according to the numbers, Angelo got market value for Jones.

But Angelo couldn't replace his starting RB in the draft.

 

[rascal]

eh...their d-line is worse, their RB situation is still a coin toss, and Grossman is still their QB.

I guess he should get consideration though for that schedule he managed to get after paying Gooddell off.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

GM of the year and what did he get for his starting RB ?

He got a pass rushing DE (Dan Bazuin), a 3rd down RB that led the NCAA in rushing last season (Garrett Wolfe), and a 2008 3rd round pick.I think thats a great price considering the current market for an old starting RB.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

GM of the year and what did he get for his starting RB ?

He traded up 26 spots in the 2nd round. According to NFL teams' draft pick value chart, the difference in value between the 37th and 63rd picks equates to a 3rd round draft choice, which is the same thing the Bills got for McGahee. So according to the numbers, Angelo got market value for Jones.

But Angelo couldn't replace his starting RB in the draft.

You don't need to if you already have a better RB waiting in the wings.

 

[rascal]

GM of the year and what did he get for his starting RB ?

He traded up 26 spots in the 2nd round. According to NFL teams' draft pick value chart, the difference in value between the 37th and 63rd picks equates to a 3rd round draft choice, which is the same thing the Bills got for McGahee. So according to the numbers, Angelo got market value for Jones.

But Angelo couldn't replace his starting RB in the draft.

You don't need to if you already have a better RB waiting in the wings.

If he was better he would have started last year.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

GM of the year and what did he get for his starting RB ?

He traded up 26 spots in the 2nd round. According to NFL teams' draft pick value chart, the difference in value between the 37th and 63rd picks equates to a 3rd round draft choice, which is the same thing the Bills got for McGahee. So according to the numbers, Angelo got market value for Jones.

But Angelo couldn't replace his starting RB in the draft.

You don't need to if you already have a better RB waiting in the wings.

If he was better he would have started last year.

Same YPC, Same amount of TDs. He didn't start due to it being a veteren team and lost it in training camp when the defense seperated his shoulder.

 

[rascal]

GM of the year and what did he get for his starting RB ?

He traded up 26 spots in the 2nd round. According to NFL teams' draft pick value chart, the difference in value between the 37th and 63rd picks equates to a 3rd round draft choice, which is the same thing the Bills got for McGahee. So according to the numbers, Angelo got market value for Jones.

But Angelo couldn't replace his starting RB in the draft.

You don't need to if you already have a better RB waiting in the wings.

If he was better he would have started last year.

Same YPC, Same amount of TDs. He didn't start due to it being a veteren team and lost it in training camp when the defense seperated his shoulder.

LOL...he didn't start because TJ was better. The defense separated his shoulder? Wow.Of course one can count on you being truly unbiased in your analysis.

 

[PsychoMan]

eh...their d-line is worse

eh...sorry but

 

[OCC]

GM of the year and what did he get for his starting RB ?

He traded up 26 spots in the 2nd round. According to NFL teams' draft pick value chart, the difference in value between the 37th and 63rd picks equates to a 3rd round draft choice, which is the same thing the Bills got for McGahee. So according to the numbers, Angelo got market value for Jones.

But Angelo couldn't replace his starting RB in the draft.

You don't need to if you already have a better RB waiting in the wings.

If he was better he would have started last year.

Same YPC, Same amount of TDs. He didn't start due to it being a veteren team and lost it in training camp when the defense seperated his shoulder.

So the GM let the coach start a worse RB all year? Yikes. You had a stud RB waiting all this time, and never started him?That doesn't sound like a well run organization.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

GM of the year and what did he get for his starting RB ?

He traded up 26 spots in the 2nd round. According to NFL teams' draft pick value chart, the difference in value between the 37th and 63rd picks equates to a 3rd round draft choice, which is the same thing the Bills got for McGahee. So according to the numbers, Angelo got market value for Jones.

But Angelo couldn't replace his starting RB in the draft.

You don't need to if you already have a better RB waiting in the wings.

If he was better he would have started last year.

Same YPC, Same amount of TDs. He didn't start due to it being a veteren team and lost it in training camp when the defense seperated his shoulder.

LOL...he didn't start because TJ was better. The defense separated his shoulder? Wow.Of course one can count on you being truly unbiased in your analysis.

Benson was first string in training camp last season and then the defense seperated his shoulder. This isn't a new discovery of camp last year.Nice cop out.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

GM of the year and what did he get for his starting RB ?

He traded up 26 spots in the 2nd round. According to NFL teams' draft pick value chart, the difference in value between the 37th and 63rd picks equates to a 3rd round draft choice, which is the same thing the Bills got for McGahee. So according to the numbers, Angelo got market value for Jones.

But Angelo couldn't replace his starting RB in the draft.

You don't need to if you already have a better RB waiting in the wings.

If he was better he would have started last year.

Same YPC, Same amount of TDs. He didn't start due to it being a veteren team and lost it in training camp when the defense seperated his shoulder.

So the GM let the coach start a worse RB all year? Yikes. You had a stud RB waiting all this time, and never started him?That doesn't sound like a well run organization.

Your right....going to the Super Bowl is a horrible measurement.They had the same YPC and Same TD's last season, Benson did this on significantly less carries. Add all the extra carries and you should see who will perform better.

 

[Sweetness_34]

GM of the year and what did he get for his starting RB ?

So getting a 3rd round pick for a RB who is getting up there in wear and tear and his only good seasons were when he ran behind the Bears OL and TEs is not enough?Edge was traded for a 2nd rounder right?Rumors were before he signed his contract that Shaun Alexander was available for a 2nd rounderHell, in his prime, Marshall Faulk was traded for a 2nd rounderAre you telling me Thomas Jones is better than Shaun Alexander, Marshall Faulk and Edge? Or are you just full of crap?

 

[rascal]

GM of the year and what did he get for his starting RB ?

He traded up 26 spots in the 2nd round. According to NFL teams' draft pick value chart, the difference in value between the 37th and 63rd picks equates to a 3rd round draft choice, which is the same thing the Bills got for McGahee. So according to the numbers, Angelo got market value for Jones.

But Angelo couldn't replace his starting RB in the draft.

You don't need to if you already have a better RB waiting in the wings.

If he was better he would have started last year.

Same YPC, Same amount of TDs. He didn't start due to it being a veteren team and lost it in training camp when the defense seperated his shoulder.

LOL...he didn't start because TJ was better. The defense separated his shoulder? Wow.Of course one can count on you being truly unbiased in your analysis.

Benson was first string in training camp last season and then the defense seperated his shoulder. This isn't a new discovery of camp last year.Nice cop out.

Yet he still remained the backup even after getting healthy. Why...because TJ was keeping him on the bench by being the better back. If Benson was the better back then that is organization ran poorly as OCC said. So either TJ is better, or it is a poorly ran organization...take your choice.Cop out...please it's the obvious truth to everyone but yourself.

 

[rascal]

eh...their d-line is worse

eh...sorry but

okay???

 

[Mungo Burrows]

GM of the year and what did he get for his starting RB ?

He traded up 26 spots in the 2nd round. According to NFL teams' draft pick value chart, the difference in value between the 37th and 63rd picks equates to a 3rd round draft choice, which is the same thing the Bills got for McGahee. So according to the numbers, Angelo got market value for Jones.

Actually, buffalo got two third rounders.Now, he did turn around the 37th pick for a very nice package from SD.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

GM of the year and what did he get for his starting RB ?

He got a pass rushing DE (Dan Bazuin), a 3rd down RB that led the NCAA in rushing last season (Garrett Wolfe), and a 2008 3rd round pick.I think thats a great price considering the current market for an old starting RB.

Truth in advertising, that's what they got for Jones AND their 2nd round pick, and only after a favorable subsequent trade with SD for the 37th pick.Edit to add: I wonder what kind of package they could have gotten if they had traded that 1st rounder they spent on Benson instead of trading Jones.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

GM of the year and what did he get for his starting RB ?

He traded up 26 spots in the 2nd round. According to NFL teams' draft pick value chart, the difference in value between the 37th and 63rd picks equates to a 3rd round draft choice, which is the same thing the Bills got for McGahee. So according to the numbers, Angelo got market value for Jones.

But Angelo couldn't replace his starting RB in the draft.

You don't need to if you already have a better RB waiting in the wings.

If he was better he would have started last year.

Same YPC, Same amount of TDs. He didn't start due to it being a veteren team and lost it in training camp when the defense seperated his shoulder.

LOL...he didn't start because TJ was better. The defense separated his shoulder? Wow.Of course one can count on you being truly unbiased in your analysis.

Benson was first string in training camp last season and then the defense seperated his shoulder. This isn't a new discovery of camp last year.Nice cop out.

Yet he still remained the backup even after getting healthy. Why...because TJ was keeping him on the bench by being the better back. If Benson was the better back then that is organization ran poorly as OCC said. So either TJ is better, or it is a poorly ran organization...take your choice.Cop out...please it's the obvious truth to everyone but yourself.

Its all about opportunity and timing. Ask Tom Brady. Lovie Smith knew that by giving both RB's carries last year that it would help in the long run. Thomas Jones got most of the carries early in the year, b/c he runs better in the beginning of seasons....for he tends to get injured/wear down at the end. Thomas Jones had all of the veterens behind him and he techincally didn't do anything to lose his job. Only in Buffalo had a back that consistantly produced was unseated by the highly touted draft pick. Enter Trading away Thomas Jones.Benson was slowed his rookie year due to his contract holdout and his second year with the shoulder injury.Benson will have a better season than Thomas Jones. You can write that in your signature.

 

[rascal]

GM of the year and what did he get for his starting RB ?

He traded up 26 spots in the 2nd round. According to NFL teams' draft pick value chart, the difference in value between the 37th and 63rd picks equates to a 3rd round draft choice, which is the same thing the Bills got for McGahee. So according to the numbers, Angelo got market value for Jones.

But Angelo couldn't replace his starting RB in the draft.

You don't need to if you already have a better RB waiting in the wings.

If he was better he would have started last year.

Same YPC, Same amount of TDs. He didn't start due to it being a veteren team and lost it in training camp when the defense seperated his shoulder.

LOL...he didn't start because TJ was better. The defense separated his shoulder? Wow.Of course one can count on you being truly unbiased in your analysis.

Benson was first string in training camp last season and then the defense seperated his shoulder. This isn't a new discovery of camp last year.Nice cop out.

Yet he still remained the backup even after getting healthy. Why...because TJ was keeping him on the bench by being the better back. If Benson was the better back then that is organization ran poorly as OCC said. So either TJ is better, or it is a poorly ran organization...take your choice.Cop out...please it's the obvious truth to everyone but yourself.

Its all about opportunity and timing. Ask Tom Brady. Lovie Smith knew that by giving both RB's carries last year that it would help in the long run. Thomas Jones got most of the carries early in the year, b/c he runs better in the beginning of seasons....for he tends to get injured/wear down at the end. Thomas Jones had all of the veterens behind him and he techincally didn't do anything to lose his job. Only in Buffalo had a back that consistantly produced was unseated by the highly touted draft pick. Enter Trading away Thomas Jones.Benson was slowed his rookie year due to his contract holdout and his second year with the shoulder injury.Benson will have a better season than Thomas Jones. You can write that in your signature.

If he won't have anybody siphon carries away like he did from Jones I would hope so.They traded TJ because it was financially advantageous.I wouldn't say much about TJ's injury problems when Benson separated his shoulder in non-contact drills and then pulled himself out of the SB (unless you have a broken bone you stay in the game for the SB...that is ludicrous).

 

[NattyDread]

It continued today with the trade for Darwin Walker. He will provide depth and experience to a young DT rotation. He is 6-3 294 and perfect for the Bears gap penetrating scheme. The only hang up would be his contract, which I am sure would be worked out.

Angelo has added players that fit the Bears scheme all offseason.

-Anthony Adams is a quicker version of Ian Scott.

-Lose Tank Johnson, which I totally respect the Bears organization for outright cutting him. Then they add Darwin Walker(see above) to replace him.

-Adam Archuleta knows the system from his days with Lovie and is a great calculated risk. Considering all Safteys are returning except Todd Johnson, why not bring in a player that had his best days in Lovie's system with the Rams.

-Lance Briggs situation. He is signed and in camp. The Bears will let him go next offseason and turn the reins over to Jamar Williams or Michael Okwo. Both very athletic Will linebackers that, like Briggs, were third round picks.

-The resigning of Charles Tillman and Nathan Vasher before they hit the marker next offseason. He signed both of them to .8 million more per year than Nate Clements.

-Drafting players in the draft that will contribute right away to this Super Bowl runner-up.

-Greg Olsen will give the Bears the best TE option since......Ditka. At 6-5 and running a 4.5, he will help everyone on offense.

-Dan Bazuin gives the Bears another pass rusher with a relentless motor. This is a guy that was needed during the last half of the season to give Wale and Brown a breather.

-Garrett Wolfe is already making headlines in practice because of his quickness, speed, and playmaking ability outof the backfield. He has great hands and will be the best 3rd down RB the Bears have had since Robert Green or Dennis Gentry.

-He signed all of his draft picks before camp started and the first team to sign a 1st round pick.

-Traded away Thomas Jones, who is not as talented or as good of a fit for the Bears running scheme, for Garrett Wolfe, Dan Bazuin, and a 2008 3rd round pick.

-Let Ron Rivera go, who while a very talented D-coordinator, couldn't adjust in the playoffs (see the Panthers and Colts playoff games) and isn't an ideal fit running Lovie's cover 2 scheme.

I think he does a fantastic job and doesn't get as much credit as he deserves.

- Anthony Adams is NOT an upgrade - He certainly IS. As the 4th tackle in the rotation (behind Harris, Walker, and Dvoracek, Adams easily fits the 1-gap style better than Ian Scott and Alfonse Boone. He was just miscast in the 49ers 3-4.- Walker is overrated, but not a bad player. He breaks down alot, and Bears fans will be unhappy with him rather quickly. - It's not as if Tank Johnson was setting the world on fire. Walker is at least on par with Tank, and in my mind an upgrade.

- Archuleta should have retired 4 years ago. - The real downfall of the late season Bears D in recent years has been injuries to Mike Brown. Archuleta may not be the fastest guy, but he is a hard-hitting tackler. A pairing of Archuleta and Brown in the secondary will leave the Bears a bit slow, so I expect to see Manning win the other spot with Archuleta serving as a solid 3rd safety.

- Briggs coming in was good. - Yep

- overpaid for average CB. - Who? Vasher or Tillman? Vasher has already gone to the Pro Bowl and is an excellent returner should Hester become injured. Tillman with his size, tackling, and awareness is an ideal CB for the cover 2. Plus have you seen the free agent deals CBs have been getting lately?

- Rookies might/might not cotribute - You can say that about any team, but Angelo has done well in recent years the 3rd round and below (Vasher, Berrian, Alex Brown, Briggs, Ian Scott).

- Olsen may bust - Again, you can say that about any rookie, but most draft charts had him rated as better than the 31st best prospect.

- Wolfe is only viewed highliy in CHI - people were saying the same about Hester a year ago.

- ooh, he did his JOB wow!

- Lost the teams only good RB, and left an oft injured unproven overrated player to shoulder (no pun intended) the load - time will tell about this one, but it's not like Thomas Jones was an elite talent. He was a solid, hardworking guy who made the yards he shouldda made. Larry Johnson was at a similar stage entering his 3rd year (behind a solid starter, rep as a crybaby). Benson certainly has the talent to make a similar transformation now that he's the man.

- Lost a really good DC, and replace him with Between the Panther's playoff loss in '06 and the Super Bowl loss this year, Rivera has shown that he's incapable of making in-game adjustments during important games. Unlike Rivera, Bob Babich is Lovie's guy and is more on the same page.

- Didn't address team's biggest need at QB - due to all of his fluke injuries, last year was really Grossman's rookie year. I think it was sometime last season where he made his 16th NFL start. Despite his horrible games, Rex has definitely shown signs of greatness (when not throwing off his back foot). The coaching staff is 100% behind him, and I expect to see improved consistency from Grossman this season. But when it comes down to it, all the Bears really need from him is a slightly better than average QB performance.

No one should be crowing about the Bears GM. He has NOT upgraded the team at all this season. However, if Grossman becomes anything less than terribly erratic, I'm sure the GM will get a ton of credit.

I think Angelo has done a solid job. Only long time Bear fans are likely to remember truly how down things have been since Ditka left. Now the Bears are perennial contenders. The entire front office and coaching staff really seems to be on the same page. Hats off to him.

 

[rascal]

I'm not denying the job Angelo and Lovie have done with the Bears, but I wouldn't give him GM of the year awards. Now if you wanted to make it since 2004 (although Angelo joined in 2001) I could understand that stance.

 

[hephner]

It continued today with the trade for Darwin Walker. He will provide depth and experience to a young DT rotation. He is 6-3 294 and perfect for the Bears gap penetrating scheme. The only hang up would be his contract, which I am sure would be worked out.Angelo has added players that fit the Bears scheme all offseason.-Anthony Adams is a quicker version of Ian Scott.-Lose Tank Johnson, which I totally respect the Bears organization for outright cutting him. Then they add Darwin Walker(see above) to replace him.-Adam Archuleta knows the system from his days with Lovie and is a great calculated risk. Considering all Safteys are returning except Todd Johnson, why not bring in a player that had his best days in Lovie's system with the Rams.-Lance Briggs situation. He is signed and in camp. The Bears will let him go next offseason and turn the reins over to Jamar Williams or Michael Okwo. Both very athletic Will linebackers that, like Briggs, were third round picks.-The resigning of Charles Tillman and Nathan Vasher before they hit the marker next offseason. He signed both of them to .8 million more per year than Nate Clements. -Drafting players in the draft that will contribute right away to this Super Bowl runner-up.-Greg Olsen will give the Bears the best TE option since......Ditka. At 6-5 and running a 4.5, he will help everyone on offense.-Dan Bazuin gives the Bears another pass rusher with a relentless motor. This is a guy that was needed during the last half of the season to give Wale and Brown a breather.-Garrett Wolfe is already making headlines in practice because of his quickness, speed, and playmaking ability outof the backfield. He has great hands and will be the best 3rd down RB the Bears have had since Robert Green or Dennis Gentry.-He signed all of his draft picks before camp started and the first team to sign a 1st round pick.-Traded away Thomas Jones, who is not as talented or as good of a fit for the Bears running scheme, for Garrett Wolfe, Dan Bazuin, and a 2008 3rd round pick.-Let Ron Rivera go, who while a very talented D-coordinator, couldn't adjust in the playoffs (see the Panthers and Colts playoff games) and isn't an ideal fit running Lovie's cover 2 scheme.I think he does a fantastic job and doesn't get as much credit as he deserves.

- Anthony Adams is NOT an upgrade- Walker is overrated, but not a bad player. He breaks down alot, and Bears fans will be unhappy with him rather quickly.- Archuleta should have retired 4 years ago.- Briggs coming in was good.- overpaid for average CB.- Rookies might/might not cotribute- Olsen may bust- Wolfe is only viewed highliy in CHI- ooh, he did his JOB wow!- Lost the teams only good RB, and left an oft injured unproven overrated player to shoulder (no pun intended) the load- Lost a really good DC, and replace him with - Didn't address team's biggest need at QBNo one should be crowing about the Bears GM. He has NOT upgraded the team at all this season. However, if Grossman becomes anything less than terribly erratic, I'm sure the GM will get a ton of credit.

How you can look at those moves and say he has not upgraded the team is asinine. - Anthony Adams was never brought in to be anything but a decent backup, which he should be.- Walker is a great addition. You're definitely in the minority if you think otherwise. You probably also were one of those saying that the Bears D "won't be the same without Tank Johnson". Tank was an average player, who by the way, was a big reason why they yielded nearly 200 rushing yards to the Colts in the Super Bowl. Walker is undoubtedly an upgrade here.- Archuleta is definitely past his prime, but he could still be decent helping the run from the safety position in this defense. Plus the Bears have a few other very solid safeties who will contribute, or step in should need be.- Briggs situation couldn't have turned out better for the Bears in the end.- "Average CBs" - Vasher and Tillman aren't necessary All Pro shut down corners, but they're both close, and getting better. (Also, age 25 and 26, respectively)- "Rookies might/might not contribute" - Wow! What a startling revelation here.- "Olsen may bust" - Again. Great analysis.- Wolfe is a question mark, as I think they may have reached for him a bit, but I don't doubt Jerry's drafting ability, as he's shown time and again to get great value overall with a lot of players.- Signing the picks before camp - yes he did his job, and did it quite well here.- "Lost the teams only good RB" - Did you think Jones was a good RB until he hit Chicago? I'd be willing to bet you were on board labeling him as a bust a few years back. Excellent O-lines can make a lot a middle-of-the-road RBs look good (see Denver).- Yes, Rivera was a very good D coordinator, but the failure to adjust in the playoffs and the fact that his scheme did not agree with Lovie's are both very good points. We'll have to wait and see how this turns out.- QB does remain a big question mark, but this team doesn't need a star QB to take them far. The cornerstone is their stifling defense. They just need a QB that can manage the game, and limit mistakes. Grossman will need to show he can do that consistently, and he'll have a much shorter leash with which to do that this year. Can Griese or Orton take over if need be? I'm skeptical too, but I'm still optimistic about Grossman. He showed some very good qualities at times, and if he can figure out how to not implode, he'll be a very solid QB.

 

[Jayrod]

eh...their d-line is worse, their RB situation is still a coin toss, and Grossman is still their QB.

I guess he should get consideration though for that schedule he managed to get after paying Gooddell off.

The NFL schedule is completely objective, determined by preset divisional rotations and formulas based on prior season's record.

 

[rascal]

eh...their d-line is worse, their RB situation is still a coin toss, and Grossman is still their QB.

I guess he should get consideration though for that schedule he managed to get after paying Gooddell off.

The NFL schedule is completely objective, determined by preset divisional rotations and formulas based on prior season's record.

I wasn't being serious.

 

[Jayrod]

eh...their d-line is worse, their RB situation is still a coin toss, and Grossman is still their QB.

I guess he should get consideration though for that schedule he managed to get after paying Gooddell off.

The NFL schedule is completely objective, determined by preset divisional rotations and formulas based on prior season's record.

I wasn't being serious.

I thought you weren't serious about the payoff but was about them "getting" a favorable schedule.Soooooooooooo......nevermind, then.

 

[rascal]

eh...their d-line is worse, their RB situation is still a coin toss, and Grossman is still their QB.

I guess he should get consideration though for that schedule he managed to get after paying Gooddell off.

The NFL schedule is completely objective, determined by preset divisional rotations and formulas based on prior season's record.

I wasn't being serious.

I thought you weren't serious about the payoff but was about them "getting" a favorable schedule.Soooooooooooo......nevermind, then.

But I will say they do get a favorable schedule based on their division alone.

 

[Phurfur]

Isnt Rex Grossman still the starting QB?

Is this the same Rex Grossman that had more TD's passing last season than the Bears QB's from the two previous seasons combines? I think so....3200 yards and 23 TDs in Chicago is pretty damn good.

 

[switz]

It continued today with the trade for Darwin Walker. He will provide depth and experience to a young DT rotation. He is 6-3 294 and perfect for the Bears gap penetrating scheme. The only hang up would be his contract, which I am sure would be worked out.

Angelo has added players that fit the Bears scheme all offseason.

-Anthony Adams is a quicker version of Ian Scott.

-Lose Tank Johnson, which I totally respect the Bears organization for outright cutting him. Then they add Darwin Walker(see above) to replace him.

-Adam Archuleta knows the system from his days with Lovie and is a great calculated risk. Considering all Safteys are returning except Todd Johnson, why not bring in a player that had his best days in Lovie's system with the Rams.

-Lance Briggs situation. He is signed and in camp. The Bears will let him go next offseason and turn the reins over to Jamar Williams or Michael Okwo. Both very athletic Will linebackers that, like Briggs, were third round picks.

-The resigning of Charles Tillman and Nathan Vasher before they hit the marker next offseason. He signed both of them to .8 million more per year than Nate Clements.

-Drafting players in the draft that will contribute right away to this Super Bowl runner-up.

-Greg Olsen will give the Bears the best TE option since......Ditka. At 6-5 and running a 4.5, he will help everyone on offense.

-Dan Bazuin gives the Bears another pass rusher with a relentless motor. This is a guy that was needed during the last half of the season to give Wale and Brown a breather.

-Garrett Wolfe is already making headlines in practice because of his quickness, speed, and playmaking ability outof the backfield. He has great hands and will be the best 3rd down RB the Bears have had since Robert Green or Dennis Gentry.

-He signed all of his draft picks before camp started and the first team to sign a 1st round pick.

-Traded away Thomas Jones, who is not as talented or as good of a fit for the Bears running scheme, for Garrett Wolfe, Dan Bazuin, and a 2008 3rd round pick.

-Let Ron Rivera go, who while a very talented D-coordinator, couldn't adjust in the playoffs (see the Panthers and Colts playoff games) and isn't an ideal fit running Lovie's cover 2 scheme.

I think he does a fantastic job and doesn't get as much credit as he deserves.

- Anthony Adams is NOT an upgrade- Walker is overrated, but not a bad player. He breaks down alot, and Bears fans will be unhappy with him rather quickly.

- Archuleta should have retired 4 years ago.

- Briggs coming in was good.

- overpaid for average CB.

- Rookies might/might not cotribute

- Olsen may bust

- Wolfe is only viewed highliy in CHI

- ooh, he did his JOB wow!

- Lost the teams only good RB, and left an oft injured unproven overrated player to shoulder (no pun intended) the load

- Lost a really good DC, and replace him with

- Didn't address team's biggest need at QB

No one should be crowing about the Bears GM. He has NOT upgraded the team at all this season. However, if Grossman becomes anything less than terribly erratic, I'm sure the GM will get a ton of credit.

How you can look at those moves and say he has not upgraded the team is asinine. - Anthony Adams was never brought in to be anything but a decent backup, which he should be. - so how does this make Amgelo GM f the Year?

- Walker is a great addition. You're definitely in the minority if you think otherwise. You probably also were one of those saying that the Bears D "won't be the same without Tank Johnson". Tank was an average player, who by the way, was a big reason why they yielded nearly 200 rushing yards to the Colts in the Super Bowl. Walker is undoubtedly an upgrade here. - Didn't say he wasn't, just no that big of one

- Archuleta is definitely past his prime, but he could still be decent helping the run from the safety position in this defense. Plus the Bears have a few other very solid safeties who will contribute, or step in should need be. - so why wast emoney bringing in a guy like Archuleta

- Briggs situation couldn't have turned out better for the Bears in the end. - agreed- but it's Angelo's job, nothing amazing

- "Average CBs" - Vasher and Tillman aren't necessary All Pro shut down corners, but they're both close, and getting better. (Also, age 25 and 26, respectively)- again, his job, nothign special

- "Rookies might/might not contribute" - Wow! What a startling revelation here. - so you can't argue that he's deserving of GM of Year until we see how they pan out

- "Olsen may bust" - Again. Great analysis. - then don't argue he should be GM of the year for it

- Wolfe is a question mark, as I think they may have reached for him a bit, but I don't doubt Jerry's drafting ability, as he's shown time and again to get great value overall with a lot of players. - yep, a reach

- Signing the picks before camp - yes he did his job, and did it quite well here. - still just his job

- "Lost the teams only good RB" - Did you think Jones was a good RB until he hit Chicago? I'd be willing to bet you were on board labeling him as a bust a few years back. Excellent O-lines can make a lot a middle-of-the-road RBs look good (see Denver). -actually when Jones went to CHI most in the fantasy community recognized he was a great RB and had him pegged as a sleeper/steal

- Yes, Rivera was a very good D coordinator, but the failure to adjust in the playoffs and the fact that his scheme did not agree with Lovie's are both very good points. We'll have to wait and see how this turns out. - so again, no means to determine he's GM of the year

- QB does remain a big question mark, but this team doesn't need a star QB to take them far. The cornerstone is their stifling defense. They just need a QB that can manage the game, and limit mistakes. Grossman will need to show he can do that consistently, and he'll have a much shorter leash with which to do that this year. Can Griese or Orton take over if need be? I'm skeptical too, but I'm still optimistic about Grossman. He showed some very good qualities at times, and if he can figure out how to not implode, he'll be a very solid QB. - true, but they needed to do more to address this situation

 

[PsychoMan]

eh...their d-line is worse

eh...sorry but

okay???

Please elaborate on how their d-line is worse and I'll check back in to refute.TIA

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

It continued today with the trade for Darwin Walker. He will provide depth and experience to a young DT rotation. He is 6-3 294 and perfect for the Bears gap penetrating scheme. The only hang up would be his contract, which I am sure would be worked out.

Angelo has added players that fit the Bears scheme all offseason.

-Anthony Adams is a quicker version of Ian Scott.

-Lose Tank Johnson, which I totally respect the Bears organization for outright cutting him. Then they add Darwin Walker(see above) to replace him.

-Adam Archuleta knows the system from his days with Lovie and is a great calculated risk. Considering all Safteys are returning except Todd Johnson, why not bring in a player that had his best days in Lovie's system with the Rams.

-Lance Briggs situation. He is signed and in camp. The Bears will let him go next offseason and turn the reins over to Jamar Williams or Michael Okwo. Both very athletic Will linebackers that, like Briggs, were third round picks.

-The resigning of Charles Tillman and Nathan Vasher before they hit the marker next offseason. He signed both of them to .8 million more per year than Nate Clements.

-Drafting players in the draft that will contribute right away to this Super Bowl runner-up.

-Greg Olsen will give the Bears the best TE option since......Ditka. At 6-5 and running a 4.5, he will help everyone on offense.

-Dan Bazuin gives the Bears another pass rusher with a relentless motor. This is a guy that was needed during the last half of the season to give Wale and Brown a breather.

-Garrett Wolfe is already making headlines in practice because of his quickness, speed, and playmaking ability outof the backfield. He has great hands and will be the best 3rd down RB the Bears have had since Robert Green or Dennis Gentry.

-He signed all of his draft picks before camp started and the first team to sign a 1st round pick.

-Traded away Thomas Jones, who is not as talented or as good of a fit for the Bears running scheme, for Garrett Wolfe, Dan Bazuin, and a 2008 3rd round pick.

-Let Ron Rivera go, who while a very talented D-coordinator, couldn't adjust in the playoffs (see the Panthers and Colts playoff games) and isn't an ideal fit running Lovie's cover 2 scheme.

I think he does a fantastic job and doesn't get as much credit as he deserves.

- Anthony Adams is NOT an upgrade- Walker is overrated, but not a bad player. He breaks down alot, and Bears fans will be unhappy with him rather quickly.

- Archuleta should have retired 4 years ago.

- Briggs coming in was good.

- overpaid for average CB.

- Rookies might/might not cotribute

- Olsen may bust

- Wolfe is only viewed highliy in CHI

- ooh, he did his JOB wow!

- Lost the teams only good RB, and left an oft injured unproven overrated player to shoulder (no pun intended) the load

- Lost a really good DC, and replace him with

- Didn't address team's biggest need at QB

No one should be crowing about the Bears GM. He has NOT upgraded the team at all this season. However, if Grossman becomes anything less than terribly erratic, I'm sure the GM will get a ton of credit.

How you can look at those moves and say he has not upgraded the team is asinine. - Anthony Adams was never brought in to be anything but a decent backup, which he should be. - so how does this make Amgelo GM f the Year?

He fits the one gap, penetrating scheme better than Ian Scott or Alphonso Boone. Finding players that better fit a scheme is what a great GM does.

- Walker is a great addition. You're definitely in the minority if you think otherwise. You probably also were one of those saying that the Bears D "won't be the same without Tank Johnson". Tank was an average player, who by the way, was a big reason why they yielded nearly 200 rushing yards to the Colts in the Super Bowl. Walker is undoubtedly an upgrade here. - Didn't say he wasn't, just no that big of one

But finding an upgrade at DT, that again fits the scheme, after the Tank situation, was an excellent move by Angelo

- Archuleta is definitely past his prime, but he could still be decent helping the run from the safety position in this defense. Plus the Bears have a few other very solid safeties who will contribute, or step in should need be. - so why wast emoney bringing in a guy like Archuleta

The Bears didn't spend too much money on the kid, also if he will return to his great form from early in his career, it will be under Lovie, who coached him before.

- Briggs situation couldn't have turned out better for the Bears in the end. - agreed- but it's Angelo's job, nothing amazing

Really? Dealing with Rosenjerk and coming out on the better end is a fantastic job.

- "Average CBs" - Vasher and Tillman aren't necessary All Pro shut down corners, but they're both close, and getting better. (Also, age 25 and 26, respectively)- again, his job, nothign special

Signing one of the better CB tandems in the league close to the same price as Nate Clements is a fantastic job. No it isn't his job, but he want to avoid future problems, so he extends contracts before players become free agents.

- "Rookies might/might not contribute" - Wow! What a startling revelation here. - so you can't argue that he's deserving of GM of Year until we see how they pan out [

b]With his draft record, they will produce

- "Olsen may bust" - Again. Great analysis. - then don't argue he should be GM of the year for it

Adding a talent like Olsen that can contribute right away to a very deep Super Bowl contending team is a great job. Olsen was also a steal at 31, yes that was his job to pick who to draft.

- Wolfe is a question mark, as I think they may have reached for him a bit, but I don't doubt Jerry's drafting ability, as he's shown time and again to get great value overall with a lot of players. - yep, a reach

I think this is a great pick, the Bears had a need on the team and Angelo fit that need with the NCAA rushing leader last year.

- Signing the picks before camp - yes he did his job, and did it quite well here. - still just his job

So GM's that don't have all their draft picks in camp right now aren't doing their job? Angelo signed all of his picks first and was the first GM to sign his first round pick. Flat out he is getting it done faster than anyone else.

- "Lost the teams only good RB" - Did you think Jones was a good RB until he hit Chicago? I'd be willing to bet you were on board labeling him as a bust a few years back. Excellent O-lines can make a lot a middle-of-the-road RBs look good (see Denver). -actually when Jones went to CHI most in the fantasy community recognized he was a great RB and had him pegged as a sleeper/steal

Oh....so now we are talking about Fantasy?

- Yes, Rivera was a very good D coordinator, but the failure to adjust in the playoffs and the fact that his scheme did not agree with Lovie's are both very good points. We'll have to wait and see how this turns out. - so again, no means to determine he's GM of the year

Improving the coaching staff would help his recommendation

- QB does remain a big question mark, but this team doesn't need a star QB to take them far. The cornerstone is their stifling defense. They just need a QB that can manage the game, and limit mistakes. Grossman will need to show he can do that consistently, and he'll have a much shorter leash with which to do that this year. Can Griese or Orton take over if need be? I'm skeptical too, but I'm still optimistic about Grossman. He showed some very good qualities at times, and if he can figure out how to not implode, he'll be a very solid QB. - true, but they needed to do more to address this situation

First string-Grossman led the team to the Super Bowl in his first full season starting. Second string-Brian Griese is a more than capable backup Third String- Kyle Orton led the team to 9 wins as a starting rookie QB. The QB position is deep and talented. I would argue that it is the deepest in the league.

So Switz you are obviously a Bears Hater.Look at the bolded above

 

[Sweetness_34]

eh...their d-line is worse, their RB situation is still a coin toss, and Grossman is still their QB.

I guess he should get consideration though for that schedule he managed to get after paying Gooddell off.

The NFL schedule is completely objective, determined by preset divisional rotations and formulas based on prior season's record.

I wasn't being serious.

But you are doing a good job of looking stupid

 

[Sweetness_34]

eh...their d-line is worse, their RB situation is still a coin toss, and Grossman is still their QB.

I guess he should get consideration though for that schedule he managed to get after paying Gooddell off.

The NFL schedule is completely objective, determined by preset divisional rotations and formulas based on prior season's record.

I wasn't being serious.

I thought you weren't serious about the payoff but was about them "getting" a favorable schedule.Soooooooooooo......nevermind, then.

But I will say they do get a favorable schedule based on their division alone.

So what? Indy + NE has had crappy divisions forever now....unless you count the Texans+ Titans & Bills+Fins+Jets as powerhouses You can only play the games you are supposed to.....and do you remember watching the Bears wipe the floor with those "God wants the Saints to win after Katrina"