Group Therapy Topic for Fans of Crappy Teams (tm) (1 Viewer)

[Ilov80s]

Guys, whats the ruling on Cowboys fans posting in here? Because it doesn't sit right with me.

I'll allow it. They have Jerry Jones to contend with...

Three straight 12-5 seasons, only 4 losing seasons in the last 20 years. It feels pretty insulting to Jets, Commanders, etc.

 

[Major]

Guys, whats the ruling on Cowboys fans posting in here? Because it doesn't sit right with me.

I'll allow it. They have Jerry Jones to contend with...

Three straight 12-5 seasons, only 4 losing seasons in the last 20 years. It feels pretty insulting to Jets, Commanders, etc.

The Cowboys are an interesting case. They're often Patriots/Chiefs level during the regular season and become the Jets/Commanders when it matters most.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Cowboy and 49er fans probably don't belong in this thread. Maybe a 2nd thread reserved for playoff losses, which many other teams don't have because they rarely even get there.

 

[Zeppelin]

Cowboys fans should have a separate thread for therapy for fans of teams that whine about the refs.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Bringing this thread back to the top as the Bears decide to speed date interview 74 different candidates for their open Head Coach position. I keep wondering when I'll see my name on the list, it's gotten so long!

 

[Zeppelin]

Not crappy anymore, but still 67 years since their last championship and zero (0) Superbowl appearances.

29 weeks and 2 days until LIX

 

[Snotbubbles]

Hi. I'm Tyler Durden, I can't sleep so I thought I'd join this group. On second thought, I'd rather get punched in the face.

 

[Zeppelin]

I am a Lions fan and last year was their best year by far since I became a fan in 1970.

Prior to that, the Lions won ONE playoff game in my entire life and I'm 63 years old. Think about that.

During that time we didn't have many good teams. The 1970 team had a great defense but could not score enough points to win. We lost 5-0 in the playoffs to Dallas.

The 1970 season was when Tom Dempsey kicked an NFL record 63 yard field. Of course Justin Tucker broke that record with a 67 yarder against, of course, the Lions.

In 1971, Chuck Hughes became the only NFL player to die after collapsing the field (he suffered a heart attack).

Shortly before the start of the 1974 season, head coach Don McCafferty suffered a heart attack and died.

The Lions also had very good teams in the early 90s. But offensive lineman Erik Andolsek was killed when struck by a semi-truck and Mike Utley was paralyzed by an injury during a game.

So even when there were good teams, there were tragedies.

I don't think any team can have anything worse happen to them than the things that happened to the Lions.

Lions fans are resilient. Yes, some jumped off the bandwagon and others came close. But those of us that stuck around survived.

For those of you seeking therapy take a look at what Lions fan have endured. I don't think another franchise can come close to what we went through. We are really good now and are enjoying every minute of it.

If we can survive all that, you can too.
Best wishes with your therapy.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Hi. I'm Tyler Durden, I can't sleep so I thought I'd join this group. On second thought, I'd rather get punched in the face.

LMk when and where

 

[JohnnyU]

Sorry, but I was already damaged from a crappy Colts team from 1978 through the 1990s, with the exception of a couple of years, until Peyton Manning arrived. I don't think therapy can help with my twitching and periodic psycotic behavior.

 

[doeseatplace]

Thanks for offering this @InDitkaWeTrust ...but its too late for group therapy. Do you by chance offer electroshock therapy?

 

[Dizzy]

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Just bumping last summer's response #3 for review purposes. MIN, LAC. DEN and WAS fans maybe not needing much therapy these days.

PIT fans... well, entitled brats just dealing with the reality of their situation. I don't view them as genuine long-time sufferers following bad Owners (i.e. CAR, NYJ, LVR, other).

 

[doeseatplace]

PIT fans... well, entitled brats just dealing with the reality of their situation. I don't view them as genuine long-time sufferers following bad Owners (i.e. CAR, NYJ, LVR, other).

Yep. Doctor, my life is so difficult...I don't know how to spend all the money I have, and women will not stop hitting on me.

 

[Dizzy]

PIT fans... well, entitled brats just dealing with the reality of their situation. I don't view them as genuine long-time sufferers following bad Owners (i.e. CAR, NYJ, LVR, other).

Yep. Doctor, my life is so difficult...I don't know how to spend all the money I have, and women will not stop hitting on me.

Exactly. I just picture the circle therapy session... "Hello group, lifelong Steelers fan here, we've only won 6 Super Bowls and lost... " <violently interrupted by the Browns fan knocking him off his chair>

 

[Chaka]

The only consolation I have as a Raiders fan over the last millennium is that at least they're not the Browns.

They're top two in most losses over that time span.

I have no sympathy for anyone else.

 

[wlwiles]

Saints fan here. That lone SB win is now 15 years old, so the shine is gone, and we seem to be one of the few teams actually on a downward trajectory so it's pretty grim over here. Front office mortgages the future for years and years playing "kick the can" with the cap, and once Brees retired they've continued to idiotically keep trying to contend instead of launching the damn rebuild we all know is needed. Gonna be a few years before the Saints are sniffing the playoffs again...

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Saints fan here. That lone SB win is now 15 years old, so the shine is gone, and we seem to be one of the few teams actually on a downward trajectory so it's pretty grim over here. Front office mortgages the future for years and years playing "kick the can" with the cap, and once Brees retired they've continued to idiotically keep trying to contend instead of launching the damn rebuild we all know is needed. Gonna be a few years before the Saints are sniffing the playoffs again...

The decision not to completely rebuild the year after Brees retired still makes me shake my head. Now they just get deeper and deeper into the eventual salary cap hell that's coming.

 

[Gottabesweet]

As a season ticket holder of a former team in this program that endured a 17 year old playoff drought and lived for the draft and hoping injuries and every schedule scenario broke our way just to hope our team logo would show “in the hunt” on the graphic on TV.

It gets better. Don’t root for anyone else, don’t pick a second favorite team or opposite conference team. Surround yourself with people of the same, misery loves company.

 

[Gatorade]

As a Cowboys fan, I was happy with three straight 12-5 seasons. Not happy at all about the playoffs though. This past season was a disaster, but still better than 11 other teams. That slight late season resurgence gave me some hope for next year. I'm tied of living off of the memories of the 70s and the 90s. It is time for Jerry to take "winning" serious. He has enough damn money.

 

[Dizzy]

As a Cowboys fan, I was happy with three straight 12-5 seasons. Not happy at all about the playoffs though. This past season was a disaster, but still better than 11 other teams. That slight late season resurgence gave me some hope for next year. I'm tied of living off of the memories of the 70s and the 90s. It is time for Jerry to take "winning" serious. He has enough damn money.

Well, good news... Micah Parsons just announced that the Dallas Cowboys will be Super Bowl Champions next year.

 

[BobbyLayne]

As a Cowboys fan, I was happy with three straight 12-5 seasons. Not happy at all about the playoffs though. This past season was a disaster, but still better than 11 other teams. That slight late season resurgence gave me some hope for next year. I'm tied of living off of the memories of the 70s and the 90s. It is time for Jerry to take "winning" serious. He has enough damn money.

Well, good news... Micah Parsons just announced that the Dallas Cowboys will be Super Bowl Champions next year.

All in?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

As a Cowboys fan, I was happy with three straight 12-5 seasons. Not happy at all about the playoffs though. This past season was a disaster, but still better than 11 other teams. That slight late season resurgence gave me some hope for next year. I'm tied of living off of the memories of the 70s and the 90s. It is time for Jerry to take "winning" serious. He has enough damn money.

Jerry takes winning very seriously.

But his dementia makes him think he’s a good GM.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Most Losses last ten years

	TEAM	L	GP	W	T
1	Jaguars	109	164	55	0
2	Jets	108	164	56	0
3	Giants	106	164	57	1
4	Browns	106	164	57	1
5	Bears	101	164	63	0
6	Panthers	96	164	68	0
7	Raiders	92	164	72	0
8	Cardinals	91	164	71	2
9	Commanders	90	164	72	2
10	Broncos	90	164	74	0
11	Texans	89	164	74	1
12	Falcons	88	164	76	0
13	49ers	87	164	77	0
14	Chargers	87	164	77	0
15	Titans	86	164	78	0
16	Colts	85	164	78	1

Most Wins last ten years

	TEAM	W	GP	L	T
1	Chiefs	123	164	41	0
2	Bills	101	163	62	0
3	Steelers	101	164	61	2
4	Packers	100	164	63	1
5	Ravens	100	164	64	0
6	Vikings	99	164	64	1
7	Eagles	97	164	66	1
8	Seahawks	97	164	66	1
9	Patriots	95	164	69	0
10	Cowboys	93	164	71	0
11	Saints	93	164	71	0
12	Rams	91	164	73	0
13	Buccaneers	83	164	81	0
14	Dolphins	81	164	83	0
15	Lions	78	164	84	2
16	Bengals	77	163	84	2

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Most Losses last ten years

	TEAM	L	GP	W	T
1	Jaguars	109	164	55	0
2	Jets	108	164	56	0
3	Giants	106	164	57	1
4	Browns	106	164	57	1
5	Bears	101	164	63	0
6	Panthers	96	164	68	0
7	Raiders	92	164	72	0
8	Cardinals	91	164	71	2
9	Commanders	90	164	72	2
10	Broncos	90	164	74	0
11	Texans	89	164	74	1
12	Falcons	88	164	76	0
13	49ers	87	164	77	0
14	Chargers	87	164	77	0
15	Titans	86	164	78	0
16	Colts	85	164	78	1

Most Wins last ten years

	TEAM	W	GP	L	T
1	Chiefs	123	164	41	0
2	Bills	101	163	62	0
3	Steelers	101	164	61	2
4	Packers	100	164	63	1
5	Ravens	100	164	64	0
6	Vikings	99	164	64	1
7	Eagles	97	164	66	1
8	Seahawks	97	164	66	1
9	Patriots	95	164	69	0
10	Cowboys	93	164	71	0
11	Saints	93	164	71	0
12	Rams	91	164	73	0
13	Buccaneers	83	164	81	0
14	Dolphins	81	164	83	0
15	Lions	78	164	84	2
16	Bengals	77	163	84	2

It’s official: the 49ers suck.

 

[Dizzy]

As a Cowboys fan, I was happy with three straight 12-5 seasons. Not happy at all about the playoffs though. This past season was a disaster, but still better than 11 other teams. That slight late season resurgence gave me some hope for next year. I'm tied of living off of the memories of the 70s and the 90s. It is time for Jerry to take "winning" serious. He has enough damn money.

Well, good news... Micah Parsons just announced that the Dallas Cowboys will be Super Bowl Champions next year.

All in?

All in... they're going to trade for Tyreek Hill, sign Tee Higgins, draft that RB from Boise State and hire Deion Sanders as HC.

Jerry is going to win the Super Bowl (of merchandise sales).

 

[Dizzy]

Didn't the Jets just win the Super Bowl in '69?

 

[BobbyLayne]

Most Losses last ten years

	TEAM	L	GP	W	T
1	Jaguars	109	164	55	0
2	Jets	108	164	56	0
3	Giants	106	164	57	1
4	Browns	106	164	57	1
5	Bears	101	164	63	0
6	Panthers	96	164	68	0
7	Raiders	92	164	72	0
8	Cardinals	91	164	71	2
9	Commanders	90	164	72	2
10	Broncos	90	164	74	0
11	Texans	89	164	74	1
12	Falcons	88	164	76	0
13	49ers	87	164	77	0
14	Chargers	87	164	77	0
15	Titans	86	164	78	0
16	Colts	85	164	78	1

Most Wins last ten years

	TEAM	W	GP	L	T
1	Chiefs	123	164	41	0
2	Bills	101	163	62	0
3	Steelers	101	164	61	2
4	Packers	100	164	63	1
5	Ravens	100	164	64	0
6	Vikings	99	164	64	1
7	Eagles	97	164	66	1
8	Seahawks	97	164	66	1
9	Patriots	95	164	69	0
10	Cowboys	93	164	71	0
11	Saints	93	164	71	0
12	Rams	91	164	73	0
13	Buccaneers	83	164	81	0
14	Dolphins	81	164	83	0
15	Lions	78	164	84	2
16	Bengals	77	163	84	2

It’s official: the 49ers suck.

2 Super Bowls & 4 NFCCG in the past 6 seasons = poverty franchise?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Most Losses last ten years

	TEAM	L	GP	W	T
1	Jaguars	109	164	55	0
2	Jets	108	164	56	0
3	Giants	106	164	57	1
4	Browns	106	164	57	1
5	Bears	101	164	63	0
6	Panthers	96	164	68	0
7	Raiders	92	164	72	0
8	Cardinals	91	164	71	2
9	Commanders	90	164	72	2
10	Broncos	90	164	74	0
11	Texans	89	164	74	1
12	Falcons	88	164	76	0
13	49ers	87	164	77	0
14	Chargers	87	164	77	0
15	Titans	86	164	78	0
16	Colts	85	164	78	1

Most Wins last ten years

	TEAM	W	GP	L	T
1	Chiefs	123	164	41	0
2	Bills	101	163	62	0
3	Steelers	101	164	61	2
4	Packers	100	164	63	1
5	Ravens	100	164	64	0
6	Vikings	99	164	64	1
7	Eagles	97	164	66	1
8	Seahawks	97	164	66	1
9	Patriots	95	164	69	0
10	Cowboys	93	164	71	0
11	Saints	93	164	71	0
12	Rams	91	164	73	0
13	Buccaneers	83	164	81	0
14	Dolphins	81	164	83	0
15	Lions	78	164	84	2
16	Bengals	77	163	84	2

It’s official: the 49ers suck.

2 Super Bowls & 4 NFCCG in the past 6 seasons = poverty franchise?

Losers

 

[Grahamburn]

Saints fan here. That lone SB win is now 15 years old, so the shine is gone, and we seem to be one of the few teams actually on a downward trajectory so it's pretty grim over here. Front office mortgages the future for years and years playing "kick the can" with the cap, and once Brees retired they've continued to idiotically keep trying to contend instead of launching the damn rebuild we all know is needed. Gonna be a few years before the Saints are sniffing the playoffs again...

You hate to see it.

 

[TomServo]

Most Losses last ten years

	TEAM	L	GP	W	T
1	Jaguars	109	164	55	0
2	Jets	108	164	56	0
3	Giants	106	164	57	1
4	Browns	106	164	57	1
5	Bears	101	164	63	0
6	Panthers	96	164	68	0
7	Raiders	92	164	72	0
8	Cardinals	91	164	71	2
9	Commanders	90	164	72	2
10	Broncos	90	164	74	0
11	Texans	89	164	74	1
12	Falcons	88	164	76	0
13	49ers	87	164	77	0
14	Chargers	87	164	77	0
15	Titans	86	164	78	0
16	Colts	85	164	78	1

Most Wins last ten years

	TEAM	W	GP	L	T
1	Chiefs	123	164	41	0
2	Bills	101	163	62	0
3	Steelers	101	164	61	2
4	Packers	100	164	63	1
5	Ravens	100	164	64	0
6	Vikings	99	164	64	1
7	Eagles	97	164	66	1
8	Seahawks	97	164	66	1
9	Patriots	95	164	69	0
10	Cowboys	93	164	71	0
11	Saints	93	164	71	0
12	Rams	91	164	73	0
13	Buccaneers	83	164	81	0
14	Dolphins	81	164	83	0
15	Lions	78	164	84	2
16	Bengals	77	163	84	2

The Jets are doomed to always be a bridesmaid...

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Saints fan here. That lone SB win is now 15 years old, so the shine is gone, and we seem to be one of the few teams actually on a downward trajectory so it's pretty grim over here. Front office mortgages the future for years and years playing "kick the can" with the cap, and once Brees retired they've continued to idiotically keep trying to contend instead of launching the damn rebuild we all know is needed. Gonna be a few years before the Saints are sniffing the playoffs again...

You hate to see it.

14 years sooner than the 49ers.

 

[rockaction]

What the heck is group therapy to a Jets fan? The only way to get better is to remove the cancer, and much like with the Browns, the cancer is the owner.

There’s nothing to really do. Positive prospects are not on the horizon. The only thing we can hope for is a learned helplessness mixed with a combination of a survival instinct making us put one foot in front of the other on a daily basis.

This is awful.

 

[Gruden's Keyboard]

I like all the pieces Tennessee has put together. Levis has big season potential.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

What the heck is group therapy to a Jets fan? The only way to get better is to remove the cancer, and much like with the Browns, the cancer is the owner.

There’s nothing to really do. Positive prospects are not on the horizon. The only thing we can hope for is a learned helplessness mixed with a combination of a survival instinct making us put one foot in front of the other on a daily basis.

This is awful.

Hey, at least your owner has no problem ponying up for the guys with high Madden ratings. The Bears have a cheapskate billionaire owner that has a history of hiring the cheapest HC and coordinators in the NFL and we, as fans, lap it up. They've consistently been very bad at front office hires and there's no sign (short of Virginia McCaskey passing and the family decided to sell off to the highest bidder) that it's going to change. All we've got to look back on is the Monsters of the Midway, the Superbowl Shuffle, and that one time Lovie Smith f'd the Texans over so we'd get the #1 pick.

 

[joey]

What the heck is group therapy to a Jets fan? The only way to get better is to remove the cancer, and much like with the Browns, the cancer is the owner.

There’s nothing to really do. Positive prospects are not on the horizon. The only thing we can hope for is a learned helplessness mixed with a combination of a survival instinct making us put one foot in front of the other on a daily basis.

This is awful.

Hey, at least your owner has no problem ponying up for the guys with high Madden ratings. The Bears have a cheapskate billionaire owner that has a history of hiring the cheapest HC and coordinators in the NFL and we, as fans, lap it up. They've consistently been very bad at front office hires and there's no sign (short of Virginia McCaskey passing and the family decided to sell off to the highest bidder) that it's going to change. All we've got to look back on is the Monsters of the Midway, the Superbowl Shuffle, and that one time Lovie Smith f'd the Texans over so we'd get the #1 pick.

Raiders fans share both of your pain.

 

[Hankmoody]

Raiders fans have had a version of this for years. Current version can be found at https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/indefinite-las-vegas-raiders-thread-al-davis-see-how-big-a-clown-i-can-be-mark-davis-hold-my-beer-brady-let-me-get-that-for-you

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Raiders fans have had a version of this for years. Current version can be found at https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/indefinite-las-vegas-raiders-thread-al-davis-see-how-big-a-clown-i-can-be-mark-davis-hold-my-beer-brady-let-me-get-that-for-you

Lol. I love the Mork references. Didn't know that was a thing!

 

[DA RAIDERS]

 

[DocHolliday]

What the heck is group therapy to a Jets fan? The only way to get better is to remove the cancer, and much like with the Browns, the cancer is the owner.

There’s nothing to really do. Positive prospects are not on the horizon. The only thing we can hope for is a learned helplessness mixed with a combination of a survival instinct making us put one foot in front of the other on a daily basis.

This is awful.

Hey, at least your owner has no problem ponying up for the guys with high Madden ratings. The Bears have a cheapskate billionaire owner that has a history of hiring the cheapest HC and coordinators in the NFL and we, as fans, lap it up. They've consistently been very bad at front office hires and there's no sign (short of Virginia McCaskey passing and the family decided to sell off to the highest bidder) that it's going to change. All we've got to look back on is the Monsters of the Midway, the Superbowl Shuffle, and that one time Lovie Smith f'd the Texans over so we'd get the #1 pick.

I think the Bears are turning things around in 2025. Caleb is a good QB and that means a lot for a NFL team. As a Raider fan, I would love to have a good QB on the roster.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

What the heck is group therapy to a Jets fan? The only way to get better is to remove the cancer, and much like with the Browns, the cancer is the owner.

There’s nothing to really do. Positive prospects are not on the horizon. The only thing we can hope for is a learned helplessness mixed with a combination of a survival instinct making us put one foot in front of the other on a daily basis.

This is awful.

Hey, at least your owner has no problem ponying up for the guys with high Madden ratings. The Bears have a cheapskate billionaire owner that has a history of hiring the cheapest HC and coordinators in the NFL and we, as fans, lap it up. They've consistently been very bad at front office hires and there's no sign (short of Virginia McCaskey passing and the family decided to sell off to the highest bidder) that it's going to change. All we've got to look back on is the Monsters of the Midway, the Superbowl Shuffle, and that one time Lovie Smith f'd the Texans over so we'd get the #1 pick.

I think the Bears are turning things around in 2025. Caleb is a good QB and that means a lot for a NFL team. As a Raider fan, I would love to have a good QB on the roster.

I was kinda surprised that the Raiders decided not to trade up for a QB in 2024. It seemed like a logical decision to make given the overall talent in the building. Don't get me wrong, I really like Bowers, but without a QB it's gonna be tough to compete. Both Penix and JJM were within reach.

 

[Hankmoody]

I was kinda surprised that the Raiders decided not to trade up for a QB in 2024. It seemed like a logical decision to make given the overall talent in the building. Don't get me wrong, I really like Bowers, but without a QB it's gonna be tough to compete. Both Penix and JJM were within reach.

I think Telesco guessed wrong, that at 13 all the QB's wouldn't be gone, and that's ultimately what cost him his job IMO.

 

[joey]

I was kinda surprised that the Raiders decided not to trade up for a QB in 2024. It seemed like a logical decision to make given the overall talent in the building. Don't get me wrong, I really like Bowers, but without a QB it's gonna be tough to compete. Both Penix and JJM were within reach.

I think Telesco guessed wrong, that at 13 all the QB's wouldn't be gone, and that's ultimately what cost him his job IMO.

Haven’t heard this said before but that would be grounds enough for removal imo.
Going into the season with OConnell/Minshew was a recipe for disaster and doomed Pierce from the get go.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

I was kinda surprised that the Raiders decided not to trade up for a QB in 2024. It seemed like a logical decision to make given the overall talent in the building. Don't get me wrong, I really like Bowers, but without a QB it's gonna be tough to compete. Both Penix and JJM were within reach.

I think Telesco guessed wrong, that at 13 all the QB's wouldn't be gone, and that's ultimately what cost him his job IMO.

Haven’t heard this said before but that would be grounds enough for removal imo.
Going into the season with OConnell/Minshew was a recipe for disaster and doomed Pierce from the get go.

Absolutely, given that at the time (even more so now) there were MAYBE 3 projected 1st round QBs in 2025. You don't take that chance especially when trading up from 13 to the 6/7/8 corridor wouldn't be enormously expensive.