Jets trying to trade up to #2 (1 Viewer)

[Mr Two Cents]

On my way home from work I heard on Sportstalk radio (610) in Houston that the Jets are trying very hard to trade with the Rams for the 1.02 pick.

There was no indication who they were targeting or what the trade would be, but it was said by one of the hosts of the show and they just made the statement and went on about how this years draft might look very different come Saturday and how it was almost impossible to do a mock draft that had any meaning right now.

 

[ScottyFargo]

On my way home from work I heard on Sportstalk radio (610) in Houston that the Jets are trying very hard to trade with the Rams for the 1.02 pick.There was no indication who they were targeting or what the trade would be, but it was said by one of the hosts of the show and they just made the statement and went on about how this years draft might look very different come Saturday and how it was almost impossible to do a mock draft that had any meaning right now.

I'd guess they want Chris Long.

 

[greenf7cat]

On my way home from work I heard on Sportstalk radio (610) in Houston that the Jets are trying very hard to trade with the Rams for the 1.02 pick.There was no indication who they were targeting or what the trade would be, but it was said by one of the hosts of the show and they just made the statement and went on about how this years draft might look very different come Saturday and how it was almost impossible to do a mock draft that had any meaning right now.

I wonder who it could be??? may DMC or Gholston??

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Matt Ryan

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I'd think it might be Dorsey they'd be after, since Robertson turned out to be a colossal bust, but if it's interior help they want, why they wouldn't sit at #6 and take Sedrick Ellis, I don't know. It's gotta be Chris Long they want and they're afraid both he and Gholston will be gone by #5.

 

[3C's]

On my way home from work I heard on Sportstalk radio (610) in Houston that the Jets are trying very hard to trade with the Rams for the 1.02 pick.There was no indication who they were targeting or what the trade would be, but it was said by one of the hosts of the show and they just made the statement and went on about how this years draft might look very different come Saturday and how it was almost impossible to do a mock draft that had any meaning right now.

I wonder who it could be??? may DMC or Gholston??

I'd think one of those 2 would probably fall to them anyway. Could be Gholston though. Dorsey couldn't be it. Ryan???

 

[Dolfan]

Matt Ryan

I 2nd that...

 

[3C's]

Matt Ryan

I think that would be the reason they want to jump past the Falcons.

 

[greenf7cat]

On my way home from work I heard on Sportstalk radio (610) in Houston that the Jets are trying very hard to trade with the Rams for the 1.02 pick.There was no indication who they were targeting or what the trade would be, but it was said by one of the hosts of the show and they just made the statement and went on about how this years draft might look very different come Saturday and how it was almost impossible to do a mock draft that had any meaning right now.

I wonder who it could be??? may DMC or Gholston??

I'd think one of those 2 would probably fall to them anyway. Could be Gholston though. Dorsey couldn't be it. Ryan???

Ryan is a possibility..i dont see it being Chris long, since they run a 3-4 and Long doesnt seem to fit well in that scheme

 

[Black Label Society]

Matt Ryan

Sounds like everyone is saying Atlanta will go with either Long or Dorsey, depending on what the Rams do.If that's the case, you don't need to move to 2 to get Ryan. Besides, Ryan is a stretch at 3 for Atlanta. He's a 10-20 position player.I would think they would move down if they wanted him.I'm guessing they (Jets) are going for Chris Long.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Matt Ryan

Sounds like everyone is saying Atlanta will go with either Long or Dorsey, depending on what the Rams do.If that's the case, you don't need to move to 2 to get Ryan. Besides, Ryan is a stretch at 3 for Atlanta. He's a 10-20 position player.I would think they would move down if they wanted him.I'm guessing they (Jets) are going for Chris Long.

With the rumblings that the Rams are going to take Dorsey, they need to get ahead of Atlanta, KC, and they also need to fend off Baltimore moving up to #5 or higher.

 

[Rounders]

:smokescreen:

 

[NoFBinLA]

Matt Ryan

That's the rumor I have heard. And frankly, I don't know how much I like it as a Jets fan.It's not that I think Pennington/Clemens is the future - not for sure. But I just think the Jets' best value is to lie in the weeds, take one of several great players who will be available and trade back if the value is right. If they just spent all that 'win now' money - is now the time for a QB pick - plus trading away who knows what to get there?I don't know that NOW is that time - nor that they HAVE to trade up to get him. Though mind you - with KC getting that extra pick - they may go Ryan at 5, THEN Oline with their second pick at 17. (Clearly I am also not sold on ATL-Ryan either)

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I'm trying to put my final mock of the year together and #### like this is making it damn near impossible.

 

[Black Label Society]

On my way home from work I heard on Sportstalk radio (610) in Houston that the Jets are trying very hard to trade with the Rams for the 1.02 pick.There was no indication who they were targeting or what the trade would be, but it was said by one of the hosts of the show and they just made the statement and went on about how this years draft might look very different come Saturday and how it was almost impossible to do a mock draft that had any meaning right now.

I wonder who it could be??? may DMC or Gholston??

I'd think one of those 2 would probably fall to them anyway. Could be Gholston though. Dorsey couldn't be it. Ryan???

Ryan is a possibility..i dont see it being Chris long, since they run a 3-4 and Long doesnt seem to fit well in that scheme

Good point...I didn't think of that. Probably Dorsey then...I just don't see them moving up for Ryan.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Good point...I didn't think of that. Probably Dorsey then...I just don't see them moving up for Ryan.

I don't think Dorsey fit's in the 3-4 any better than Long does. Although I think both could play in the 3-4, neither is a super good fit.

 

[3C's]

On my way home from work I heard on Sportstalk radio (610) in Houston that the Jets are trying very hard to trade with the Rams for the 1.02 pick.There was no indication who they were targeting or what the trade would be, but it was said by one of the hosts of the show and they just made the statement and went on about how this years draft might look very different come Saturday and how it was almost impossible to do a mock draft that had any meaning right now.

I wonder who it could be??? may DMC or Gholston??

I'd think one of those 2 would probably fall to them anyway. Could be Gholston though. Dorsey couldn't be it. Ryan???

Ryan is a possibility..i dont see it being Chris long, since they run a 3-4 and Long doesnt seem to fit well in that scheme

Good point...I didn't think of that. Probably Dorsey then...I just don't see them moving up for Ryan.

Dorsey is not a real good fit in a 3-4. Long played in a 3-4 under Groh at UVA.

 

[greenf7cat]

I'm trying to put my final mock of the year together and #### like this is making it damn near impossible.

good luck with that.... thats a headache waiting to happen

 

[Dr. Octopus]

The story in the New York Daily News today said it was for McFadden.

 

[kaso]

I think the Jets realized after J. Long was locked up at 1 that they needed to jump up to get in the mix for either Gholston or C. Long

I was just looking over my mock draft and have both Long and Gholston going before the Jets get a crack at it with their 6th pick. At the moment I have Long going to the Rams and Gholston to the Chiefs at the moment.

What to the Jets have to offer to move up from 6 to 2?

I don't see the Jets going after Ryan at this time.

 

[The Gatekeeper]

I think it is for Mcfadden. I think he is their guy and they feel they have to get ahead of Oakland. Oakland could go in many directions and has everyone worried what they are going to do. Another scenario would be that they have caught wind that another team that is coveting Mcfadden is talking to the Falcons so they feel the need to go to #2.

 

[NoFBinLA]

The story in the New York Daily News today said it was for McFadden.

Like with Ryan, I can believe this - I just dunno I like it.

 

[T Man]

If they move up, they are probably moving up for Ryan. An outside shot its for McFadden.

Dorsey is a stud, but he is not a true fit for the Jets defense. While the smokescreens say the Falcons will go with Long, the Jets have to be concerned that Arthur Blank says franchise QB to get the fan base motivated.

If its Ryan, they need to move ahead of ATL. If it's McFadden, they may feel that ATL will not budge as they want whoever falls to them at 3 (i.e., Ryan or Dorsey if the Rams were to choose C. Long) and they need to leapfrog Oakland. If the Jets select McFadden at 2 and the Falcons select Ryan at 3 I could see Oakland selecting Howie's kid.

That would mean that Dorsey and Ellis are still on the board at 5.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Long could play end or OLB in a 3-4. He'd likely start off as a pass-rushing OLB, but could bulk up a little and play end very easily as his career went on. I wouldn't hesitate to draft him no matter what scheme I played.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

The story in the New York Daily News today said it was for McFadden.

Like with Ryan, I can believe this - I just dunno I like it.

I've resigned myslfl to be ok with the decision if they draft him at #6, but if they trade up to get him they are foolish.

 

[Blood Farmer]

It would be crazy to move up for Ryan. He may do well in the NFL but he is not expected to be a difference maker. I can't see moving up to get any of the defensive linemen either. The only player on the board that has the potential to make trading up a consideration is McFadden.

 

[TLEF316]

if they move up for Ryan or McFadden, I will turn off the draft right then and there and go jump out a window. This HAS to be a smoke screen.

If they trade up for a QB after spending all that money on win now free agents, I'm done.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

1. Ryan

2. Gholston

 

[NoFBinLA]

I will add this - would it be a Jets draft with out a head scratching, reach for a gun/booze/noose moment?

I think they know this - and may just be giving us what they want -

Pick #2 - QB Dennis Dixon, ORE

 

[NoFBinLA]

1. Ryan2. Gholston

Gholston, Dorsey and Long are said to be amongst their top 6 desires - I assume Ryan and McFadden are 4 & 5 - 6? I dunno - Ellis? DMC or Jenkins?But Gholston is a guy they like.But with all those good players maybe just dropping to them - moving up seems madness....

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I'd love to see them take Gholston, have him live up to expectation, and knock Tom Brady's block off repeatedly.

I'm not wishing injury on anyone. But I don't think a sprained smug look counts.

 

[midnightxxxx]

I am hoping Dorsey slides to KC and given the scenarios everyone is painting here on the forums just fuels my speculation this could happen for the KC Cheaps.

If Long happens to fall to KC I am good with that also. You could make a new mastercard priceless commercial with daddy cheering for his son wearing a KC jersey LMAO.

 

[Fiddles]

if they move up for Ryan or McFadden, I will turn off the draft right then and there and go jump out a window. This HAS to be a smoke screen. If they trade up for a QB after spending all that money on win now free agents, I'm done.

exactlyreally dont think its ryan

 

[Andy Dufresne]

if they move up for Ryan or McFadden, I will turn off the draft right then and there and go jump out a window. This HAS to be a smoke screen. If they trade up for a QB after spending all that money on win now free agents, I'm done.

exactlyreally dont think its ryan

RB Jesse ChatmanG Alan FanecaLB Calvin PaceRB Tony RichardsonG Damien WoodyWhich of these players are "win now"?

 

[Team Legacy]

Rumors, shumors... These RARELY happen, do your rankings in the order of the current picks. Its terribly difficult to predict.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

if they move up for Ryan or McFadden, I will turn off the draft right then and there and go jump out a window. This HAS to be a smoke screen. If they trade up for a QB after spending all that money on win now free agents, I'm done.

exactlyreally dont think its ryan

RB Jesse ChatmanG Alan FanecaLB Calvin PaceRB Tony RichardsonG Damien WoodyWhich of these players are "win now"?

Faneca is.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

if they move up for Ryan or McFadden, I will turn off the draft right then and there and go jump out a window. This HAS to be a smoke screen. If they trade up for a QB after spending all that money on win now free agents, I'm done.

exactlyreally dont think its ryan

RB Jesse ChatmanG Alan FanecaLB Calvin PaceRB Tony RichardsonG Damien WoodyWhich of these players are "win now"?

Faneca is.

Just because he's old? Funny how free agents that are any good are categorized as "win now" signings.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

if they move up for Ryan or McFadden, I will turn off the draft right then and there and go jump out a window. This HAS to be a smoke screen. If they trade up for a QB after spending all that money on win now free agents, I'm done.

exactlyreally dont think its ryan

RB Jesse ChatmanG Alan FanecaLB Calvin PaceRB Tony RichardsonG Damien WoodyWhich of these players are "win now"?

Faneca is.

Just because he's old? Funny how free agents that are any good are categorized as "win now" signings.

No, because I've watched his game deteriorate over the past few years and while he may be revitalized by the change of scenery and have a good season, he doesn't have more than a couple of years left in him. There's a reason the Steelers low-balled him and didn't attempt to match the Jets' huge offer - the guy has maybe 2-3 decent years left, and that's it. I consider guaranteeing the kind of money they did for Faneca when your window of getting top-quality play out of him is that small as being a "win now" type of acquisition, which is why I wasn't sure why the Jets did it.

 

[JAA]

Matt Ryan

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...amp;pid=8529509

 

[Workhorse]

You could say that acquiring Kris Jenkins is a "win now" move too. Giving Jenkins $20 million guaranteed might preclude the Jets from going after Dorsey, unless they project him as a 3-4 DE. Personally, I think Dorsey is better suited for a 4-3 DT role.

 

[arlingtonpark27]

If I were the Jets, I'd stay where I am and see which stud falls to me. There is no reason to trade up and the cost of moving up would not be worth it.

It seems like it would be for Ryan or McFadden though.

 

[Buckna]

Ahh.. 3 days to go. When rumors run rampant and speculation on the radio in one part of the country suddenly becomes exciting rumor in another part. It's a great time of the year!

 

[T Man]

McFadden wants to land with Jets

Darren McFadden was in New York Tuesday for the second time in less than a week. The former Arkansas star has a hunch he could be spending a lot of time in these parts after the Jets make their first draft pick on Saturday. "I feel like if I'm there at No. 6, they're going to take me," McFadden told the Daily News at a promotional appearance in lower Manhattan. The Jets own the sixth selection in the draft, and there is a growing belief around the league that McFadden is one of their targets. Concerned the Raiders (No. 4) might select the dynamic running back, the Jets may try to trade up (the Rams are at No. 2) for McFadden, according to a league source. -- NY Daily News

 

[Mr. Peterson]

The story in the New York Daily News today said it was for McFadden.

That's what I'm thinking.

 

[TLEF316]

if they move up for Ryan or McFadden, I will turn off the draft right then and there and go jump out a window. This HAS to be a smoke screen. If they trade up for a QB after spending all that money on win now free agents, I'm done.

exactlyreally dont think its ryan

RB Jesse ChatmanG Alan FanecaLB Calvin PaceRB Tony RichardsonG Damien WoodyWhich of these players are "win now"?

Other than Pace, they are all older players who will likely not be with the franchise 4-5 years down the road. Whether you think they are "good" or not is irrelevant. The front office obviously thinks they are good enough to improve the team today and help them win. That seems like the very definition of win now to me.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

The story in the New York Daily News today said it was for McFadden.

Well, trade talk always makes things more interesting.Did the story mention that he brought his younger sister to NY with him and told the Jets she would live with him to keep him from off-field distractions.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

if they move up for Ryan or McFadden, I will turn off the draft right then and there and go jump out a window. This HAS to be a smoke screen. If they trade up for a QB after spending all that money on win now free agents, I'm done.

Ryan very well could be the best "win now" QB option for them. Especially by the end of December.

 

[Big_Russel]

Matt Ryan

And that's the guy they SHOULD want IMO.

 

[CalBear]

History would indicate that they're targeting a tight end.

If they're really targeting McFadden, it seems silly for them to move up to get ahead of the Raiders, who have no intention of taking McFadden.

 

[NoFBinLA]

History would indicate that they're targeting a tight end.If they're really targeting McFadden, it seems silly for them to move up to get ahead of the Raiders, who have no intention of taking McFadden.

Depends on whose smokescreen you believe. I know what Kiffin said. I know some people think they won't - but we also keep reading they really like him. By 'they' I mean 'Al' of course.I don't disagree, but they may not want to risk it -- tho I STILL say they should hang back and see what drops.