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Jim Zorn to be named Skins HC (1 Viewer)

A very good hire IMO. He's worked for 6 years under a great coach in Mike Holmgren, and helped Matt reach all pro status.

 
From rotoworld.....

Redskins Offense-TM-Redskins Feb. 9 - 6:45 pm et

The Associated Press reports that Jim Zorn will be the next Redskins head coach. NFL Network's Adam Schefter and the Washington Post's Jason LaConfora first reported it was likely Saturday afternoon.

Dan Snyder is always full or surprises. Zorn, the former Seattle QB coach, was hired to be the Redskins offensive coordinator more than two weeks ago. He's known as a bright offensive mind, and perhaps Snyder cooled on Jim Fassel after seeing the public's reaction to him. Jason Campbell will have to learn Zorn's West Coast offense.

Source: Washington Post

New offense. How will this affect FF players on Redskins?

 
Fantasy Football Junkie said:
From rotoworld.....Redskins Offense-TM-Redskins Feb. 9 - 6:45 pm et The Associated Press reports that Jim Zorn will be the next Redskins head coach. NFL Network's Adam Schefter and the Washington Post's Jason LaConfora first reported it was likely Saturday afternoon.Dan Snyder is always full or surprises. Zorn, the former Seattle QB coach, was hired to be the Redskins offensive coordinator more than two weeks ago. He's known as a bright offensive mind, and perhaps Snyder cooled on Jim Fassel after seeing the public's reaction to him. Jason Campbell will have to learn Zorn's West Coast offense.Source: Washington Post New offense. How will this affect FF players on Redskins?
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I think it bodes well for the offense. Portis has definitely proven he's a great all around back, and did very well in the passing game this year. He will be a great back in a WCO. I also think this helps Santana Moss tremendously. Only guy I worry about is Cooley. I just can't think of any TEs that really flourished in a west coast offense (who am I forgetting?)
 
Bloom why is this a bad move in your opinion? Seems MUCH better than Fossil doesn't it? And isn't Zorn about 20 years younger than Gibbs?

 
Ripleys said:
Bloom why is this a bad move in your opinion? Seems MUCH better than Fossil doesn't it? And isn't Zorn about 20 years younger than Gibbs?
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This move isn't bad as much as the entire episode dealing with the coaches has been bad. They went from two great respected football minds who had already laid the groundwork for their schemes in Williams and Saunders to Zorn and Blache. I suppose Blache won't be too bad and provide some continuity, but the way Fassel was handled (He's in, what people don't like that? ok, he's not in) reveals a lot about Snyder/Cerrato's decision making process.Zorn as HC sure feels like a punt to me. Honestly, I was happy for Saunders and Williams when they were let go so they go somewhere that good football people were actually appreciated.I wonder what the players think of all of this.
 
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Thoughts on how switching to the WC offense will affect Campbell and his WRs? Helps Moss and El? Cools Cooley?

IMHO, it doesn't affect Portis too much - he's been solid (not great, but solid) catching the ball out of the backfield. I do think it drops Cooley a little (not too many TEs thrive in a true WC offense).

I think Moss and El get a little bump, if for no other reason, they should be more consistent in terms of week-in, week-out production.

Thoughts?

 
Well aren't there heavy rumors that Washington is going to be going after Berrian or Porter? Porter and Moss starting with Randle-El as your slot, seems pretty good for a WC Offense. Cooley's value has to take a hit but Denver ran a modified West Coast and Shannon's one of the all time greats. However, Shannon was more of a WR than a TE.

Just a quick look, Houston, Oakland, Green Bay, Philly, Tampa, Seahawks and Broncos are the teams that come to mind for WCO. You have Daniels, Lee, LJ, and Scheffler having decent numbers but nothing Cooley like.

 
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DoubleG said:
Thoughts on how switching to the WC offense will affect Campbell and his WRs? Helps Moss and El? Cools Cooley? IMHO, it doesn't affect Portis too much - he's been solid (not great, but solid) catching the ball out of the backfield. I do think it drops Cooley a little (not too many TEs thrive in a true WC offense). I think Moss and El get a little bump, if for no other reason, they should be more consistent in terms of week-in, week-out production.Thoughts?
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Brent Jones was a beast in the original WCO. I think Eric Johnson also played in a WCO system and when healthy he had some great stats. I know there is more. I personally think Cooley will be fine as he is someone who you have to get the ball to no matter what style of offense you play. He is a great pass catcher and there are very few tight ends who have great receiving skills like he does. IMO.
 
We Seattle old-timers will be watching with interest. Long-time favorite in the city from Hawks' earliest days... :confused:

 
Sigmund Bloom said:
sorry redskins fansy'all might need these --> :goodposting:
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We've needed those for a month, with this clown show of interviewing people and not hiring them. We're used to it. It's quite comfy under the bag when you get used to it. :shrug: Zorn was QB coach at Seattle for the last 7 years I think. Jim Fassell, who interviewed for the HC job, recommended him as offensive coordinator. So they hired Zorn as OC, didn't hire Fassell (thankfully), and now they promoted Zorn to head coach. It must have been a hell of a first week on the job as OC. He's got a good defensive coordinator (Greg Blache, also newly promoted, whom I don't think he'll clash with), some talent on offense, is supposedly excellent with quarterbacks (which is good for a young QB like Campbell), has a good O-line coach in Bugel.
 
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Washington Post article on the hire

"I've always dreamed of being a head coach with a franchise rich in tradition like the Redskins," Zorn said in a statement. "As a player who had to fight Redskins teams at RFK as well as at our home field, I know about the history of this franchise as well as the passion of its fans. I won't let you down."
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Snyder had few choices left after waiting more than 30 days to make a decision in an offseason when there were few high-profile candidates interested in the job. The decision to bypass Williams infuriated fans, who filled football message boards, even the one backed by the team, with angry posts. The outcry grew louder when Fassell became a leading candidate, fans wanting no part of a coach who had been fired by the Baltimore Ravens as their offensive coordinator.
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Ironically, Fassell and Williams both told the Redskins that Zorn would be their top choice to be offensive coordinator if they got the head coaching job, sources said.
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"The offensive guys better be ready, I'm telling you it's going to be different from what they're used to," Springs said. "The way they ran practice and the whole philosophy of thinking is entirely differently. This system is all about speed, the quickness, the timing getting in and out of practice, from what I remember."
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Springs compared the efficiency and organization of Seattle's offense to the way Williams ran practices here when he was assistant head coach -- defense. Privately, many players complained about not practicing special situations and late-game situations under Gibbs.

"How Gregg was organized that's how they were organized on the offensive side of the ball in Seattle," Springs said. "They're going to be aggressive on offense; they're not going to clam up. They're going to continue to push to score."

Springs said he had just begun to talk to teammates but thought the overall reaction would be one of relief and hope.
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How does this affect Campbell? My impression is he isn't a finesse passer but a big arm type guy. Isnt the WCO predicated on short quick routes and accurate passing? Maybe I'm mistaken.

 
Sigmund Bloom said:
Ripleys said:
Bloom why is this a bad move in your opinion? Seems MUCH better than Fossil doesn't it? And isn't Zorn about 20 years younger than Gibbs?
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This move isn't bad as much as the entire episode dealing with the coaches has been bad. They went from two great respected football minds who had already laid the groundwork for their schemes in Williams and Saunders to Zorn and Blache. I suppose Blache won't be too bad and provide some continuity, but the way Fassel was handled (He's in, what people don't like that? ok, he's not in) reveals a lot about Snyder/Cerrato's decision making process.Zorn as HC sure feels like a punt to me. Honestly, I was happy for Saunders and Williams when they were let go so they go somewhere that good football people were actually appreciated.I wonder what the players think of all of this.
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Right on as ever, Bloom.The list of people who -- presumably -- turned down head coaching a young playoff team because of management, includes some of most astute minds in football: Bill Cowher, Pete Carrol, Steve Spagnulo. If all these people reject you, Danny, you are doing something wrong.
 
this move actually does not surprise me. I was thinking about it today when they were talking about the washington season on sirius. I figured if Snyder hired him, and could not find a coach, he would just promote him.

good luck washington. I am still shocked how different the coaching staff in Washington is, just over six weeks. You were in the playoffs! come on...

 
Jeff Pasquino said:
jeter23 said:
just reported on ESPN.
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As usual, John Clayton was right on the money. :blackdot: Wasn't Zorn JUST reported to have been tapped for the 2009 HC job in Seattle?Any NFC fan outside of either "Washington" team has to be pleased with the turmoil here.
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Yeah, thought I saw it:
Foxsports - Jay Glazer states that Seahawks reached agreement with DBs coach Jim Mora to make him head coach Mike Holmgren's successor in 2009. Mora received a four-year extension. The deal likely also involves a significant raise. By tabbing Mora now, the Seahawks avoid having to go through a drawn out head coaching search next winter. While Mora led the Falcons to a 26-22 record and was loved by his players, his teams lacked discipline and had a tendency to fall apart. Mora's hire isn't great news for the offensive players in Seattle.
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So much for that.
 
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Rockchild said:
How does this affect Campbell? My impression is he isn't a finesse passer but a big arm type guy. Isnt the WCO predicated on short quick routes and accurate passing? Maybe I'm mistaken.
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Zorn has been QB coach at Seattle for 7 years. When he got hired as Redskin OC this is what Matt Hasselbeck had to say about what Zorn would do offensively in Washington: Link to videoBasically, that Zorn would find out what players do best and play to those strengths. So perhaps the assumption that there will be a complete offensive system overhaul won't be correct.

 
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Jeff Pasquino said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
jeter23 said:
just reported on ESPN.
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As usual, John Clayton was right on the money. :blackdot: Wasn't Zorn JUST reported to have been tapped for the 2009 HC job in Seattle?Any NFC fan outside of either "Washington" team has to be pleased with the turmoil here.
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Yeah, thought I saw it:
Foxsports - Jay Glazer states that Seahawks reached agreement with DBs coach Jim Mora to make him head coach Mike Holmgren's successor in 2009. Mora received a four-year extension. The deal likely also involves a significant raise. By tabbing Mora now, the Seahawks avoid having to go through a drawn out head coaching search next winter. While Mora led the Falcons to a 26-22 record and was loved by his players, his teams lacked discipline and had a tendency to fall apart. Mora's hire isn't great news for the offensive players in Seattle.
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So much for that.
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Zorn... Mora...same thing.
 
Jeff Pasquino said:
jeter23 said:
just reported on ESPN.
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As usual, John Clayton was right on the money. :shrug:Wasn't Zorn JUST reported to have been tapped for the 2009 HC job in Seattle?Any NFC fan outside of either "Washington" team has to be pleased with the turmoil here.
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1. Synder got his yesman.2. Clayton has been saying all along that Jim Mora would take over when Holmgren leaves, not Zorn.
 
Jeff Pasquino said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
jeter23 said:
just reported on ESPN.
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As usual, John Clayton was right on the money. :shrug: Wasn't Zorn JUST reported to have been tapped for the 2009 HC job in Seattle?Any NFC fan outside of either "Washington" team has to be pleased with the turmoil here.
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Yeah, thought I saw it:
Foxsports - Jay Glazer states that Seahawks reached agreement with DBs coach Jim Mora to make him head coach Mike Holmgren's successor in 2009. Mora received a four-year extension. The deal likely also involves a significant raise. By tabbing Mora now, the Seahawks avoid having to go through a drawn out head coaching search next winter. While Mora led the Falcons to a 26-22 record and was loved by his players, his teams lacked discipline and had a tendency to fall apart. Mora's hire isn't great news for the offensive players in Seattle.
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So much for that.
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Read a little more closely....
 
MG345 said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
jeter23 said:
just reported on ESPN.
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As usual, John Clayton was right on the money. :no: Wasn't Zorn JUST reported to have been tapped for the 2009 HC job in Seattle?Any NFC fan outside of either "Washington" team has to be pleased with the turmoil here.
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Yeah, thought I saw it:
Foxsports - Jay Glazer states that Seahawks reached agreement with DBs coach Jim Mora to make him head coach Mike Holmgren's successor in 2009. Mora received a four-year extension. The deal likely also involves a significant raise. By tabbing Mora now, the Seahawks avoid having to go through a drawn out head coaching search next winter. While Mora led the Falcons to a 26-22 record and was loved by his players, his teams lacked discipline and had a tendency to fall apart. Mora's hire isn't great news for the offensive players in Seattle.
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So much for that.
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Read a little more closely....
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:bag:Posting on Saturday night.... not the greatest idea...
 
Lester Burnham said:
Bizkiteer said:
Brutis said:
As a cowboy fan I love the move. lol
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LMAO, typical cowpuke talking out the side of their #%@...errr...face! :bag: Just remember this comment when you ask someone to pass the salt when you eat crow. Becareful what you wish for... :no:
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LOL BizI miss George Allen & Tom Landry
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Those were some of the good ol days, weren't they? Life was good when 'Skins and cowpukes didn't help each up after tackles...
 
mr. furley said:
Ripleys said:
I just can't think of any TEs that really flourished in a west coast offense (who am I forgetting?)
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Chmura, Keith Jackson, Bubba had a couple good seasons.
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One could point out that the only person as talented (or more) as Cooley on the 'Skins offense would be Santana Moss. Thus, I'm sure he'll find a way of incorporating him. If they had two great WR's, then Cooley might not get it as much.
 
Still don't understand what the problem was with Fassel.

I always felt that the Giants overachieved almost every year while he was HC.

 
buster c said:
Brutis said:
Bizkiteer said:
Brutis said:
As a cowboy fan I love the move. lol
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LMAO, typical cowpuke talking out the side of their #%@...errr...face! :hophead: Just remember this comment when you ask someone to pass the salt when you eat crow. Becareful what you wish for... :bag:
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ok :thumbup: :excited:
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and the cowgirl HC? Wade Phillips :bag: the GM? Jerry Jones :bag: :shrug:
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Wade Phillips went 13-3 as the HC. Skins lost a HOF HC in Gibbs and lost 2 very good coordinators. Forgive me for being a bit happy. :yes:
 
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