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RokNRole said:
Thanks.

I think I'll be ok coming across as confident and charming. My biggest concern is i know next to nothing about life/health. I don't even have insurance of my own.

I have nothing on my resume related to it so I can't imagine he's expecting I know anything. I've tried to do some research but it's not something I can make sense of in a few days. I figure my best bet is not to try to sound like I know anything and just push that I am a fast learner.

Its because of this I'm starting to believe the people saying I'm walking in to a pitch for a sales position.
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if it is a sales position, they company can teach you how to sell. don't sweat that so much.

professional, respectful, confident. those are the keys to this, and any other, interview. take it all in, and take @CurlyNight 's advice to heart: do some research on the company and come in with two or three relevant questions for the person doing the interview. 

 
RokNRole said:
Thanks.

I think I'll be ok coming across as confident and charming. My biggest concern is i know next to nothing about life/health. I don't even have insurance of my own.

I have nothing on my resume related to it so I can't imagine he's expecting I know anything. I've tried to do some research but it's not something I can make sense of in a few days. I figure my best bet is not to try to sound like I know anything and just push that I am a fast learner.

Its because of this I'm starting to believe the people saying I'm walking in to a pitch for a sales position.
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..fast learner and interested.. He may give you an exercise of how to respond to an insurance inquiry phone call to see your response. Prepare yourself with answers to questions you may get. There may be a site that talks about getting through interviews for insurance offices and such. With the internet it's easier nowadays to find examples of questions to ask for certain positions and what type of person the position in general would be looking for in a candidate.

The good news is though that this is an entry level position so you are correct, he's not expecting much in the way of experience. He saw something on your resume. Play on that whatever that job was that gave you skills that can carry over to this position.

 
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RokNRole said:
I spent $90 on it and already removed the tag so I'm definitely wearing it.

This kind of stuff is just so far out of my comfort zone I'm panicking over it.
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I feel awkward in a suit and tie, too.  I owned one older sports coat and two suits, one was way out of style so my parents sprung for a new sports coat for me when I started interviewing for a new job back in February.  Hate wearing suits.  Blah.

 
I interviewed at a distribution center position a couple of years back. I knew I would be wearing jeans or shorts every day if I got the position. I wore a suit and tie. The manager was in dress pants and dress shirt. I would have felt very under dressed in only a shirt and tie. It also showed that I was dressing for the job I wanted, which laid the ground work for a corporate promotion less than a year later.

Another thing I do, is copy the job description into a word doc. I then go through each description and add the experience, qualification, or success that I have had in my career. I use this as a cheat sheet and confidence builder leading up to the interview. I review it in the car right before I go in for the interview.

 
KCitons said:
I interviewed at a distribution center position a couple of years back. I knew I would be wearing jeans or shorts every day if I got the position. I wore a suit and tie. The manager was in dress pants and dress shirt. I would have felt very under dressed in only a shirt and tie. It also showed that I was dressing for the job I wanted, which laid the ground work for a corporate promotion less than a year later.

Another thing I do, is copy the job description into a word doc. I then go through each description and add the experience, qualification, or success that I have had in my career. I use this as a cheat sheet and confidence builder leading up to the interview. I review it in the car right before I go in for the interview.
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Awesome idea!

 
Quint said:
if it is a sales position, they company can teach you how to sell. don't sweat that so much.

professional, respectful, confident. those are the keys to this, and any other, interview. take it all in, and take @CurlyNight 's advice to heart: do some research on the company and come in with two or three relevant questions for the person doing the interview. 
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As far as relevant questions these come to mind

1. What is the company's growth strategy with the recent national changes in health insurance?

2. What literature or periodicals would you recommend to a new hire that desires to learn as much as possible about the industry?

3. Does your company offer any advanced training for employees excelling at their current position?

Are those good?

 
The company actually posted again on craigslist yesterday. I sent another resume because I didn't know it was the same company because the ad was different this time.

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/bus/6162150223.html

The guy responded to me with the same canned email. What do you guys make of this? One thing that sticks out are the benefits offered. Is it really just a sales position or could it be a real customer service management position?

 
There are a couple of bespoke tailors on eBay that will make a custom suit to your measurements for around $200. I bought one a couple years back. You can upgrade materials and designs. When you get it they will even give you a refund up to $35 if you have to have a local tailor tweak the fit. (I didn't need to as the for was perfect)

 
KCitons said:
There are a couple of bespoke tailors on eBay that will make a custom suit to your measurements for around $200. I bought one a couple years back. You can upgrade materials and designs. When you get it they will even give you a refund up to $35 if you have to have a local tailor tweak the fit. (I didn't need to as the for was perfect)
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That's insanely cheap. How was the quality?

 
RokNRole said:
I've been saying this for years. Despite the hate I get on here I've never attacked anyone for no particular reason......at least not that I can remember. I don't do so for this particular reason.

When it comes to a persons serious personal matters I say nothing if I have nothing positive to say.
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So calling others subhuman, closet homosexuals and wishing them to be immolated in the street because they are evil (among other things) is doing unto others as you would have them do unto you and all that? 

You taking the moral high ground, :lmao:

 
I went with a better fabric/design and it was pretty good. A good fitting suit in mediocre fabric looks better than a $1000 suit that doesnt fit. I also bought 3 dress shirts for $100 from them.

But I'm not built like a safety. I'm more like a bowling ball.

 
northern exposure said:
So calling others subhuman, closet homosexuals and wishing them to be immolated in the street because they are evil (among other things) is doing unto others as you would have them do unto you and all that? 

You taking the moral high ground, :lmao:
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Those are people asking for it.

If I was as big as big a piece of crap as those people (you specifically) I would know it was entirely warranted.

you are pretty much a walking rectum

 
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KCitons said:
I went with a better fabric/design and it was pretty good. A good fitting suit in mediocre fabric looks better than a $1000 suit that doesnt fit. I also bought 3 dress shirts for $100 from them.

But I'm not built like a safety. I'm more like a bowling ball.
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Do you even lift?

 
RokNRole said:
Those are people asking for it.

If I was as big as big a piece of crap as those people (you specifically) I would know it was entirely warranted.

you are pretty much a walking rectum
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Funny. I never resort to calling names, but you are always the one that claims he is being attacked. 

You really don't understand Karma do you? And with all the name calling you do, I question your claim to a high IQ too. 

What color is the sky in your world?  You obviously don't live in reality. 

 
northern exposure said:
Funny. I never resort to calling names, but you are always the one that claims he is being attacked. 

You really don't understand Karma do you? And with all the name calling you do, I question your claim to a high IQ too. 

What color is the sky in your world?  You obviously don't live in reality. 
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No you resort to the same old tired jokes.

 
Rok- best to just ignore or get to bed for some restful sleep. You don't want to go in looking beat and it's not worth bickering back and forth the night before your interview.. Your questions look good.

 
And here the thread had turned back around to the topic and was going pretty well... You got this Rok. Head to bed and good luck tomorrow!

 
CurlyNight said:
Rok- best to just ignore or get to bed for some restful sleep. You don't want to go in looking beat and it's not worth bickering back and forth the night before your interview.. Your questions look good.
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I just drank my sleepytime tea and popped a quaalude for bed

 
RokNRole said:
Thanks.

I think I'll be ok coming across as confident and charming. My biggest concern is i know next to nothing about life/health. I don't even have insurance of my own.

I have nothing on my resume related to it so I can't imagine he's expecting I know anything. I've tried to do some research but it's not something I can make sense of in a few days. I figure my best bet is not to try to sound like I know anything and just push that I am a fast learner.

Its because of this I'm starting to believe the people saying I'm walking in to a pitch for a sales position.
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I find this incongruous.

Regardless, go in confident.  Not walk up music confident, but nearly so.

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
I find this incongruous.

Regardless, go in confident.  Not walk up music confident, but nearly so.
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Why so? Because he didn't learn all about the position and how to perform it well online? Plenty of people don't catch on to much of a new position just by reading online but do quickly pick it up when being trained on the job..

 
RokNRole said:
I just drank my sleepytime tea and popped a quaalude for bed
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I have not seen Quaaludes in over 30 years, except of course for bad Mexican knock offs.  Once Rohrer and Lemon stopped producing that was pretty much it, though I think maybe some manufacture still happens in South Africa.  They still selling that Mexican tripe down there in south Texas?

 
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CurlyNight said:
Why so? Because he didn't learn all about the position and how to perform it well online? Plenty of people don't catch on to much of a new position just by reading online but do quickly pick it up when being trained on the job..
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I'm not trying to knock you off your white horse, but mind yer fingers while you feed this one. 

 
CurlyNight said:
Why so? Because he didn't learn all about the position and how to perform it well online? Plenty of people don't catch on to much of a new position just by reading online but do quickly pick it up when being trained on the job..
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I believe a motivated genius, as he has purported to be, could, in a few days, do sufficient research to ask relevant questions at an interview, which was the discussion, particularly when that person is a fast learner on top of their starting point of being intellectually gifted.  The task was not to learn all about the position and how to perform it online, it was to gain conversational familiarity.

I just found it incongruous, particularly when juxtaposed so closely.  No worries.  Folks hold paradoxical views all the time.  Lately the trend has been to declare this some fatal character flaw of hypocrisy.  Myself, I just tells folks I am comfortable with paradox.

 
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RokNRole said:
The company actually posted again on craigslist yesterday. I sent another resume because I didn't know it was the same company because the ad was different this time.

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/bus/6162150223.html

The guy responded to me with the same canned email. What do you guys make of this? One thing that sticks out are the benefits offered. Is it really just a sales position or could it be a real customer service management position?
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It's a sales position. 

 
I'm going to give the OP some honest to goodness solid advice on his job hunt:

You were working in the staffing industry but you were really at the lowest end of the industry working for a blue collar placement firm. There are a ton of staffing companies in the Dallas area that you can apply for where you would have a more professional and much better experience. You should be applying for jobs at Kelly, Aerotek, KForce, Randstad, Adecco and Roth. Ideally try to get a job in their general staffing divisions placing admins, customer service agents and other low level white collar folks. Most of these companies also have blue collar divisions and even that wouldn't be the worse thing in the world as it will be infinitely more of a professional setting that what you have described with your previous employer. You will get a base salary, commission, benefits and the ability for true advancement if you do a good job. 

If you are looking for other white collar jobs, you want to be able to leverage the limited experience you have and this would be your best bet.

 
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Baloney Sandwich said:
I'm going to give the OP some honest to goodness solid advice on his job hunt:

You were working in the staffing industry but you were really at the lowest end of the industry working for a blue collar placement firm. There are a ton of staffing companies in the Dallas area that you can apply for where you would have a more professional and much better experience. You should be applying for jobs at Kelly, Aerotek, KForce, Randstad, Adecco and Roth. Ideally try to get a job in their general staffing divisions placing admins, customer service agents and other low level white collar folks. Most of these companies also have blue collar divisions and even that wouldn't be the worse thing in the world as it will be infinitely more of a professional setting that what you have described with your previous employer. You will get a base salary, commission, benefits and the ability for true advancement if you do a good job. 

If you are looking for other white collar jobs, you want to be able to leverage the limited experience you have and this would be your best bet.
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Excellent post and advice here.

 
Account Manager for life/health insurance (Im assuming group insurance) means you would be handling the accounts of inforce clients and will be responsible for selling the renewals. Positions often offer salary + commission.

 
I'm here.

Jusging by the motley crew of other people waiting for interviews this is definitely a BS job. I feel like walking out but i will wait to at least hear this guys pitch out of curiousity.

Feel pretty bummed I spend 2 bills on this outfit.

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
I believe a motivated genius, as he has purported to be, could, in a few days, do sufficient research to ask relevant questions at an interview, which was the discussion, particularly when that person is a fast learner on top of their starting point of being intellectually gifted.  The task was not to learn all about the position and how to perform it online, it was to gain conversational familiarity.

I just found it incongruous, particularly when juxtaposed so closely.  No worries.  Folks hold paradoxical views all the time.  Lately the trend has been to declare this some fatal character flaw of hypocrisy.  Myself, I just tells folks I am comfortable with paradox.
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You don't know the difference between a genius and a savant do you?

 
RokNRole said:
I'm here.

Jusging by the motley crew of other people waiting for interviews this is definitely a BS job. I feel like walking out but i will wait to at least hear this guys pitch out of curiousity.

Feel pretty bummed I spend 2 bills on this outfit.
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Return it

 
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Baloney Sandwich said:
I'm going to give the OP some honest to goodness solid advice on his job hunt:

You were working in the staffing industry but you were really at the lowest end of the industry working for a blue collar placement firm. There are a ton of staffing companies in the Dallas area that you can apply for where you would have a more professional and much better experience. You should be applying for jobs at Kelly, Aerotek, KForce, Randstad, Adecco and Roth. Ideally try to get a job in their general staffing divisions placing admins, customer service agents and other low level white collar folks. Most of these companies also have blue collar divisions and even that wouldn't be the worse thing in the world as it will be infinitely more of a professional setting that what you have described with your previous employer. You will get a base salary, commission, benefits and the ability for true advancement if you do a good job. 

If you are looking for other white collar jobs, you want to be able to leverage the limited experience you have and this would be your best bet.
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This is good advice and surprised you would offer it.

I am trying to find something in a different field than staffing. I am holding staffing as my fall back plan if nothing else pans out. I know I could at the very least easily get a recruiting job with almost any staffing firm with my experience and ability.

 
RokNRole said:
You don't know the difference between a genius and a savant do you?
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I know a bit about folks being caught out in lies and B.S. and then trying to bold face their way out of it.  Comes from decades of cross-examining liars.

No matter, I love your stories, inconsistent or not.  Keep embellishing away.

 
RokNRole said:
I'm here.

Jusging by the motley crew of other people waiting for interviews this is definitely a BS job. I feel like walking out but i will wait to at least hear this guys pitch out of curiousity.

Feel pretty bummed I spend 2 bills on this outfit.
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You will likely have other interviews you will use this outfit for.  Plus you can can rock the happy hour at Kona Grill.

 
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