Joe Webb (2 Viewers)

[footballnerd]

Are you for real? As commissioner, I should not be allowed to prevent someone taking advantage of a loophole created by a clerical error by our service provider?Let me ask you this: if my service (MFL) incorrectly seeded our playoff teams because MFL's default setting was different from that in our bylaws, should I be allowed to adjust the error or not?Incidentally, I have not said whether or not I would allow Webb to be started as a WR or not - I've indicated that these need to be looked at on a case-by-case basis. Although I do think it's more likely that a RB/WR like McCluster would be less damaging than allowing a guy who is taking ALL OF HIS SNAPS AT QB to be started as a WR. As I said earlier, maybe the guy who thinks he's gonna 'put one over on the league' won't be too happy about it, but I can guarantee you that the rest of the league will be grateful.At any rate, I'd likely simply default to what NFL.com (the most official source) has listed, and go from there. Yahoo, MFL, or even ESPN are not really our acknowledged authority on NFL positions either.

Okay we get it, you're one of those commish's that make up stuff midseason instead of instilling solid rules at the end of the year. quit thread crappin, so the rest of us can find info we need. or start your own thread.

 

[charlie54]

I picked Webb up. And I figured out my plan. I start 2-2-flex. I'm starting AP Stewart and mcfadden as my 2 rb's and my flex. Andre Johnson is starting as my wr1. My options for wr2 are Jennings Austin or Santana moss. It will be Jennings if rodgers plays, if not, I'll put Webb in as my wr2. If he doesn't start or I #### out, I can drop gerhardt from my bench for Earl bennet before Monday's game and plug him in. Am I crazy? Like a fox!?

thats awesome! but you left out the most important thing- who is your kicker?

 

[footballnerd]

Great, cats out of the bag.

another

If you go this route, be prepared for a MNF alternative if Yahoo changes Webb's status last minute

 

[charlie54]

Hey, I think McCluster is still listed at WR/RB.

lol

 

[charlie54]

Hey, I think McCluster is still listed at WR/RB.

lol

 

[Jersey35]

Are you for real? As commissioner, I should not be allowed to prevent someone taking advantage of a loophole created by a clerical error by our service provider?Let me ask you this: if my service (MFL) incorrectly seeded our playoff teams because MFL's default setting was different from that in our bylaws, should I be allowed to adjust the error or not?Incidentally, I have not said whether or not I would allow Webb to be started as a WR or not - I've indicated that these need to be looked at on a case-by-case basis. Although I do think it's more likely that a RB/WR like McCluster would be less damaging than allowing a guy who is taking ALL OF HIS SNAPS AT QB to be started as a WR. As I said earlier, maybe the guy who thinks he's gonna 'put one over on the league' won't be too happy about it, but I can guarantee you that the rest of the league will be grateful.At any rate, I'd likely simply default to what NFL.com (the most official source) has listed, and go from there. Yahoo, MFL, or even ESPN are not really our acknowledged authority on NFL positions either.

Okay we get it, you're one of those commish's that make up stuff midseason instead of instilling solid rules at the end of the year. quit thread crappin, so the rest of us can find info we need. or start your own thread.

I wouldn't call defending myself from FC's attacks "thread crappin" but yep, I let FC suck me in. I'm leaving now.

 

[thehornet]

I picked Webb up. And I figured out my plan. I start 2-2-flex. I'm starting AP Stewart and mcfadden as my 2 rb's and my flex. Andre Johnson is starting as my wr1. My options for wr2 are Jennings Austin or Santana moss. It will be Jennings if rodgers plays, if not, I'll put Webb in as my wr2. If he doesn't start or I #### out, I can drop gerhardt from my bench for Earl bennet before Monday's game and plug him in. Am I crazy? Like a fox!?

doing the same thing. dropping a bench guy for bennet and will play bennet at flex if webb doesnt go. niiiiice

 

[footballnerd]

I wouldn't call defending myself from FC's attacks "thread crappin" but yep, I let FC suck me in. I'm leaving now.

ya my bad about the term, but lets keep it clean here guys

 

[goldenchild]

You cant change rules just cuz you dont like them. Webb was a WR before this week, if you can get him part of the bonus. Yahoo notices it dual position, who r u to not to?

As a commisioner, he is simply following the NFL.com official position description for the player, and is smartly not using an unofficial player position designation such as the ones created by Yahoo. Yahoo isn't "noticing" this player has a dual position, it is arbitrarily inventing a 100% fictional position description that does not exist in any official source. There are no "dual position" players in any of the official NFL player listings.To me, using Webb as a WR demonstrates a clear lack of integrity and general sportsmanship. If you want to "win" your league by using Webb, then it is clear just how much (or how little) your integrity is worth.

The guy is probably 15 years old (based on his arguments thus far), give him a break.

 

[Football Critic]

TJax in IR, just announced on First Take!

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

fwiw

Webb played quarterback at UAB and was a wide receiver prospect coming out of the draft.

http://hipplesfantasyinjuryinfostat...2/twitter-juddzulgad-as-expected-patrick.html

Joe Webb will likely get the start according to reporter Judd Zulgad.

 

[dennis.moore]

And Patrick Ramsey might start.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...on-heads-to-ir/

For Brett Favre, his streak of consecutive regular-season starts ended at 297. For Tarvaris Jackson, the streak will end at one.

Per a league source, Jackson will be placed on injured reserve due to a toe injury suffered on Monday night against the Giants at Ford Field. The move presumably clears a spot for Patrick Ramsey, the veteran quarterback who likely will start for the Vikings against the Bears, only days after joining the team.

It had been believed that Favre would be placed on IR instead. Until he is, a chance remains that we’ll see him on the field one more time.

Unless he plays again next year.

 

[thehornet]

And Patrick Ramsey might start.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...on-heads-to-ir/

For Brett Favre, his streak of consecutive regular-season starts ended at 297. For Tarvaris Jackson, the streak will end at one.

Per a league source, Jackson will be placed on injured reserve due to a toe injury suffered on Monday night against the Giants at Ford Field. The move presumably clears a spot for Patrick Ramsey, the veteran quarterback who likely will start for the Vikings against the Bears, only days after joining the team.

It had been believed that Favre would be placed on IR instead. Until he is, a chance remains that we’ll see him on the field one more time.

Unless he plays again next year.

this isnt happening.

 

[hip80]

From Roto: According to Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk, the Vikings are expected to place Tarvaris Jackson (turf toe) on injured reserve.

It's not a surprise that Jackson is going on I.R., as he had basically already been ruled out for Week 15 and a turf toe injury is something that can take multiple weeks to recover from. But it is surprising Florio reports that Patrick Ramsey, not Joe Webb, is likely to start Monday. Ramsey was just signed Wednesday, so that would be asking a lot for him to be ready. Vikings beat writers have said Webb is likely to get the call. Stay tuned.

Just picked up Webb more as a block/defense for having someone else use this against me. that said, no way i'm starting him this week, but who knows about next week? i'll be the one who can make the decision after we see what he does this week. Vikings are @ Philly week 16...

 

[goldenchild]

Not even a good argument, nor in the same boat.

Brady has never played WR, Webb was a QB/WR when he came into the league. I know YOU may not like it, but that dont make it wrong.

If he is listed as a dual position player by your leagues website, then he is a QB/WR no matter what you think or your argument, all your doing is changing rules c uz you dont like them from what i see.

Obviously the Brady example was a bit dramatic. But let me ask you this then... If a team loses their starting QB and all of the backups in the same game, they would need to put in someone and it would likely be a CB or WR (I thought I heard the announcers this past weekend say that Charles Woodson was the backup to Flynn?). So by your definition, we should be able to put Charles Woodson in at QB? Or you should complain to Yahoo and have them change Woodson's status? What is wrong with having a rule in place to ensure that players are used for their real purpose?Yahoo is the only website that has Webb listed at a QB/WR... the only one. We ran into this problem with Yahoo Colston's rookie year we took our league straight to MFL and have never looked back.

Now, based on the feedback that I've received here, I agree that my wording can use some work. I may change it in the offseason to state that players will be listed as they are on the official team website?

But you keep fighting the good fight

Nope, because Woodson wasn't drafted to play QB for the Packers. Nice try though, Stalin

Who the one putting up the fight? Your examples are not only in the same bout, but they are down right dumb. Fact: If your site lists players at certain positions and you dont like it, use a different site or allow them to use the players, no in between....if there is an in between, its a dictatorship.

This whole dictatorship accusation is laughable... All rules that are created in the offseason are agreed upon by everyone in the league.All fantasy sites that are used have a default scoring pre-set when you register... So according to you, we shouldn't be allowed to change those "rules" b/c they are already defined by the site (just like Yahoo has defined Webb as a QB/WR)?

 

[petben]

This is really pretty simple. Fantasy sites should not qualify football players at two positions as there is an distinct opportunistic advantage to having even a bad starting QB playing as a WR/RB/TE/PK. Fantasy football is not supposed to be about rule loopholes, and those attempting to take advantage know this isn't the right thing to do. Every commish should show a backbone here and not allow it.

Another who missed out on the player or plays him. You keep forget players can play more then 1 position in the NFL, why not fantasy?He started the year at WR and will play QB, good thing that Yahoo was on top of this and allowed him to be eligible for both positions. I'm upset that Reggie is not a RB/WR. Point is he was a returner just 2 weeks ago. What about Brad smith, he too should be a QB/WR.

Quite the opposite. I have a desperate need for a decent WR this weekend and the guy is sitting on the WW. I chose to do the right thing. And I announced to the league it would not be allowed.Why is it allowed in real football but not in fantasy? Because fantasy football is not real. It's a different game with different parameters. You don't gain a distinct opportunistic advantage in points putting a QB in the WR slot in real football. You do in fantasy. But you know that, you're just one of those people who thinks it's okay to play the system rather than play the game.

 

[Lobary]

Add my name to the list of those picking up Webb. I am toying with the idea of starting him over Floyd, Harvin, and Jacoby Ford, but I specifically grabbed him to prevent my opponent from using him against me.

It's win or go home time now, so I am less concerned about discussing the ethics of this situation than the floor Webb offers at WR3 spot. How good is this kid? Can he generate yardage against the Bears defense in cold weather on MNF?

 

[zftcg]

Debating the ethics of starting Webb at WR has a bit of a Coke/Pepsi element to it, but debating the behavior of commissioners is *really* silly. Look, there are leagues that lock their rosters at the beginning of the playoffs. I consider that pretty dumb. Then again, my league has an eight-team playoff and a completely open waiver wire, and I'm sure many of you think that's really stupid. And you know what? It doesn't matter, because we don't play in the same league!

You know that saying, "No one else cares about your fantasy team"? Well, the only thing people care less about is your league's by-laws, or the decisions of your commissioner. So if you don't like how someone's managing their league, don't join it. Otherwise, give it a rest and get back to discussing Webb as a viable fantasy option.

 

[urbanhack]

Is anyone playing Webb at QB?

 

[tommyGunZ]

I'm on the Webb train and toying with starting him as my WR2 in a PPR league over TO/Knox. CHOOO-CHOOO!

 

[tommyGunZ]

Is anyone playing Webb at QB?

You in a start 5 QBs league hack?

 

[tommyGunZ]

Is anyone playing Webb at QB?

You in a start 5 QBs league hack?

 

[charlie54]

Is anyone playing Webb at QB?

maybe in a start 2 qb league.

 

[munygon2]

I'm in a 2 QB start league and I already have Vick and Ryan as my starters for this week. I picked up Webb to play him at WR3. We'll see what happens.

 

[Football Critic]

Just watched the Frazier presser and he said many different ways without declaring him starter...

"If for some reason Joe goes down on the first play, (Ramsey) will have to be ready to step up."

...Frazier quote.

 

[Lobary]

Just watched the Frazier presser and he said many different ways without declaring him starter..."If for some reason Joe goes down on the first play, (Ramsey) will have to be ready to step up."...Frazier quote.

Yep, and he also said that Webb would be taking all the snaps with the first team in preparation for Monday's game.Tea leaves suggest he is starting.

 

[charlie54]

I'm in a 2 QB start league and I already have Vick and Ryan as my starters for this week. I picked up Webb to play him at WR3. We'll see what happens.

nobody cares.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I'm in a start 2 qb league and Webb is still on our ww. Unless you were previously starting the likes of Tebow I can't imagine anyone starting Webb at qb.

 

[Lobary]

Webb's preseason stats:

17-30 191 yds 3 TDs 1 INT 95.3 rtg

Also rushed 11 times for 126 yds and 1 TD

 

[JMon348]

This could be talked about for years and years. How many bitter people would be talking about the time "Joe Webb cost me the title" If he blows up either this week or next and people are getting QB points out of their 3rd WR/Flex positon the will be forever remembered.

Im playing him this week and if its close going into Monday and Joe Webb beats me, I might shoot my TV.

Everyone email yahoo and make them change it!!!!!!!

 

[Lobary]

If he is starting, I'm starting him at WR and don't feel 1 bit of remorse. I have seen him play a lot in person and TV.

He was drafted as a WR? Worked out at UAB pro day as a WR after he missed the combine? He's an athletic freak. 42.5 Vertical, 11.05 Broad Jump, 21 reps, 4.44 40, 6.71 3 cone, 4.04 shuttle.

The MOST athletic WR coming into the draft.

He'll put up decent stats throwing the ball. 100 is the floor IMO.

Well, this prompted me to look up Joe Webb's stats from the preseason. What I found surprised me. Take a lookassing:

Player Att Comp Yds Comp % Yds/Att TD TD % INT INT % Long Sck Sack/Lost Rating

Joe Webb 30 17 __191 56.7 ________6.4 _3 __10.0 __1 ___3.3 ___63 __2 16 _________95.3

Rushing:

Player Att Yds Yds/Att Long TD

Joe Webb 11 126 11.5 48 1

He led the team in preseason rushing, including almost double the nearest RB. he also had the most pass attempts.

Here's some video.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...No-ordinary-Joe

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...-48-yard-TD-run

Not bad.

Sorry I missed it the first time.

 

[charlie54]

This could be talked about for years and years. How many bitter people would be talking about the time "Joe Webb cost me the title" If he blows up either this week or next and people are getting QB points out of their 3rd WR/Flex positon the will be forever remembered.Im playing him this week and if its close going into Monday and Joe Webb beats me, I might shoot my TV.Everyone email yahoo and make them change it!!!!!!!

been there, done that- see colston, marques.better get ur gun ready. joe's got some serious wheels and its looking like the game will be moved indoors on a fast track.

 

[Lobary]

This could be talked about for years and years. How many bitter people would be talking about the time "Joe Webb cost me the title" If he blows up either this week or next and people are getting QB points out of their 3rd WR/Flex positon the will be forever remembered.Im playing him this week and if its close going into Monday and Joe Webb beats me, I might shoot my TV.Everyone email yahoo and make them change it!!!!!!!

Why? Danny Woodhead has been used throughout the season by one of my playoff competitors at WR.Yahoo will not change it.

 

[Football Critic]

This could be talked about for years and years. How many bitter people would be talking about the time "Joe Webb cost me the title" If he blows up either this week or next and people are getting QB points out of their 3rd WR/Flex positon the will be forever remembered.Im playing him this week and if its close going into Monday and Joe Webb beats me, I might shoot my TV.Everyone email yahoo and make them change it!!!!!!!

They would have to change Woodhead, and McCluster and fix the previous weeks, which wont happen. LOL, love your pathetic attempt.

 

[zftcg]

better get ur gun ready. joe's got some serious wheels and its looking like the game will be moved indoors on a fast track.

Where are you hearing that? Last I heard it was outdoors at U of M stadium.

 

[Football Critic]

better get ur gun ready. joe's got some serious wheels and its looking like the game will be moved indoors on a fast track.

Where are you hearing that? Last I heard it was outdoors at U of M stadium.

First of all, there is only one U of M, and thats in the state of Meeeechigan.Second, Rumors I've been hearing is no one knows where it will be yet.

 

[zftcg]

better get ur gun ready. joe's got some serious wheels and its looking like the game will be moved indoors on a fast track.

Where are you hearing that? Last I heard it was outdoors at U of M stadium.

First of all, there is only one U of M, and thats in the state of Meeeechigan.

I'm a Michigan fan myself, but I'm afraid Google disagrees with both of us: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chro...;q=%22u+of+m%22

Second, Rumors I've been hearing is no one knows where it will be yet.

NFL stands behind TCF Bank Stadium for Vikings-Bears clash

The NFL said it's moving forward with plans to play Monday night's Minnesota Vikings-Chicago Bears game at the University of Minnesota's outdoor stadium despite concerns about the site ranging from field conditions to player safety.

"The game is going to be played there," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told the Chicago Tribune on Thursday. "The decision has been made. If the situation changes and something unusual happens, we'll adjust. But there are no indications we wouldn't be able to play the game there. It's full steam ahead preparing the field and the stadium for a game on Monday."

 

[Instinctive]

I thought that the Gophers stadium wasnt gong to be the choice because it lacks heating coils or some junk like that, plus it is literally filled with snow.

 

[Kenny Powers]

This could be talked about for years and years. How many bitter people would be talking about the time "Joe Webb cost me the title" If he blows up either this week or next and people are getting QB points out of their 3rd WR/Flex positon the will be forever remembered.

I sure hope so!! Still not sure if I'll roll with him in the flex as he is playing a great D and the weather may be poor, but its hard ignore the upside and the fact that he can have a bad game but still likely put up 10+ points

 

[Romofan]

DAMN!!! .... CBS has him as a QB only...they even addressed it in his player bio. LOL.

"Webb was drafted as a wide receiver, but reverted back to quarterback, his college position this summer, and has been listed as a QB by the Vikings since June. Thus, he only has eligibility at QB in CBSSports.com leagues. With the uncertainty surrounding the location of Monday night's game against the Bears, Webb really isn't worth considering in Fantasy play unless you're in a league that the commissioner will allow to use him as a wide receiver. Webb doesn't have the best arm, but he's a superb athlete and could well do some damage with his feet."

 

[gandalas]

So if he throws for 120, runs for 40 and throws a TD, I would get around 22 pts if I start him at wr?

depends if your league awards points for being an imbecile.

Easy there Sparky...He was obviously counting 120/10 = 12 + 40/10 = 4 + 6 for the 1 TD = 22 points...simple error, not quite to the level of being imbecilic.

 

[footballnerd]

apparently Webb returned a punt last week as well, this guy does everything. wouldn't that be sweet if he kept the return duties too in my return yardage league, one can only dream

 

[Ned]

This could be talked about for years and years. How many bitter people would be talking about the time "Joe Webb cost me the title" If he blows up either this week or next and people are getting QB points out of their 3rd WR/Flex positon the will be forever remembered.

I sure hope so!! Still not sure if I'll roll with him in the flex as he is playing a great D and the weather may be poor, but its hard ignore the upside and the fact that he can have a bad game but still likely put up 10+ points

love these bush league moves.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

DAMN!!! .... CBS has him as a QB only...they even addressed it in his player bio. LOL.

"Webb was drafted as a wide receiver, but reverted back to quarterback, his college position this summer, and has been listed as a QB by the Vikings since June. Thus, he only has eligibility at QB in CBSSports.com leagues. With the uncertainty surrounding the location of Monday night's game against the Bears, Webb really isn't worth considering in Fantasy play unless you're in a league that the commissioner will allow to use him as a wide receiver. Webb doesn't have the best arm, but he's a superb athlete and could well do some damage with his feet."

What cracks me up is what if the Vikes had put him in at WR?Wouldn't CBS just change the roster designation then?

It really would be great from a FF perspective to se another truly great multiple position player come into the NFL again. There's no reason a back can't be just a back, a WR, RB, FB, and QB are all just.... well, backs.

I actually saw a college game a week or so ago where the team brought in two QB's and put them both in the backfield. Were one or both halfbacks, quaterbacks? Who knows...

 

[barista]

Not to mention he's extra scary in those point per completion Yahoo leagues!

 

[urbanhack]

I'm in a start 2 qb league and Webb is still on our ww. Unless you were previously starting the likes of Tebow I can't imagine anyone starting Webb at qb.

is Tebow starting??

 

[ClubberLang]

I'm in a Point per completion, return yardage, money league. Yeah, it's dumb, but I'm in the playoffs.

I'd like to see the Bears go 3 and out on their first series and be forced to punt. Shortly after, the greatest fantasy drive will commence ...

Punt Return Man Joe Webb returns the punt for 20 yards.

1st and 10 on the MIN 40 ... QB Joe Webb passes to WR Joe Webb for a 60 yard TD!!!

 

[shotgun72]

So if he throws for 120, runs for 40 and throws a TD, I would get around 22 pts if I start him at wr?

depends if your league awards points for being an imbecile.

Easy there Sparky...He was obviously counting 120/10 = 12 + 40/10 = 4 + 6 for the 1 TD = 22 points...simple error, not quite to the level of being imbecilic.

I was just throwing out some numbers. Didn't really think there was a need to pull out a calculator. Simple math error. But thanks for pointing it out!

 

[thehornet]

ppr stud here

 

[Trizzler]

The argument that starting Webb as a WR in a league that allows it is a bush league move is the same as failing to respect Boise State as a legitimate team since they often run trick plays.

You play to win. As long as the rules aren't broken, no crime has been committed.