Joey Porter angry about contract (1 Viewer)

[gocats]

These days, nobody in the NFL makes more headlines than Joey Porter, who recently criticized George W. Bush. Porter will undergo arthroscopic knee surgery this week, creating one headline. He has stayed away from Pittsburgh's voluntary minicamps, creating another headline. And the biggest headlines could be yet to come. Porter will consider holding out from training camp, and a potential contract stalemate is on the horizon. Porter has two years remaining on a contract that is scheduled to pay him $3.85 million this season and $5 million next season. When Steelers executives were asked about the idea of Porter staying away from the team recently, they shrugged and said, "voluntary minicamp," as if it were no big deal. But it will be a big deal if Porter is not at training camp. And there are indications that could be the case.

Anything that causes any kind of disruption among the Steelers is A-OK in my book, I don't care what it is.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Bad move when James Harrison just signed long term. The Steelers have no qualms about moving on when vets become overpaid.

 

[redman]

Joey Porter thinks his toothbrush is disrespecting him if his gums bleed.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Porter's a firy player and he plays with a lot of heart, but I don't think many Steelers fans would care if the team cut ties and signed a player that was more complete for cheaper, and didn't cause 10% as many problems.

 

[Jous]

Porter's a firy player and he plays with a lot of heart, but I don't think many Steelers fans would care if the team cut ties and signed a player that was more complete for cheaper, and didn't cause 10% as many problems.

Porter's never caused any problems at all before this...and it's not even for sure if he'll hold out or not, neither he nor his agent have said anything, so it's all rumors at this point.Just curious, what do you mean by a player who "doesn't cause 10% as many problems?" When ahs Porter ever stirred up trouble for his own team?

 

[Chase Stuart]

Porter's a firy player and he plays with a lot of heart, but I don't think many Steelers fans would care if the team cut ties and signed a player that was more complete for cheaper, and didn't cause 10% as many problems.

Porter's never caused any problems at all before this...and it's not even for sure if he'll hold out or not, neither he nor his agent have said anything, so it's all rumors at this point.Just curious, what do you mean by a player who "doesn't cause 10% as many problems?" When ahs Porter ever stirred up trouble for his own team?

If you haven't followed Joey Porter's career, he's constantly running his mouth. I think in general, most Steelers fans are sick of him. His comments about the Colts being "soft", his fight with Terrelle Smith resulting in an ejection, and things like the Joey Porter boot just get old after awhile.From what I remember, most Steelers fans were sick of him last year.

He had a great post-season though, and he did have double-digit sacks last year. But I think the Steelers could replace him pretty easily.

 

[Jous]

Porter's a firy player and he plays with a lot of heart, but I don't think many Steelers fans would care if the team cut ties and signed a player that was more complete for cheaper, and didn't cause 10% as many problems.

Porter's never caused any problems at all before this...and it's not even for sure if he'll hold out or not, neither he nor his agent have said anything, so it's all rumors at this point.Just curious, what do you mean by a player who "doesn't cause 10% as many problems?" When ahs Porter ever stirred up trouble for his own team?

If you haven't followed Joey Porter's career, he's constantly running his mouth. I think in general, most Steelers fans are sick of him. His comments about the Colts being "soft", his fight with Terrelle Smith resulting in an ejection, and things like the Joey Porter boot just get old after awhile.From what I remember, most Steelers fans were sick of him last year.

He had a great post-season though, and he did have double-digit sacks last year. But I think the Steelers could replace him pretty easily.

I'm a Steelers fan...and I can honestly say that the vast majority of us think Porter is a great player, and that he's the unquestioned emotional leader on defense. His comments on the Colts, he later said in a short interview with a local Pittsburhg paper, were to try to get the Colts to come out "too angry" and try too hard. He knew they would be a little rusty (remember the Steelers were also rusty in 2004 after resting a lot) and he was counting on them trying way too hard. He was right.and lol...I remember that fight with Terrelle Smith. And I can honestly tell you, that we all loved it! The Steelers of the 70's and 90's always had a "tough guy" persona, and intimidated our opponents, and wouldn't take jack **** from anybody. Seeing Joey Porter fight a member of one of our rivals was great!

I mean, this is the franchise who had Jack Lambert and Greg Lloyd on our teams. The nastier, and more hated by our opponents our Linebackers are, the better. As long as they're not just bad sports who tear apart the team, and Porter isn't a guy like that.

 

[Tyranny]

As a Fan I'd prefer Porter stay. He may run his mouth but along with Harrior, Foote and Haggans, not to mention Harrison and the others there is hardly a better team of LB's in the league.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

The season hasn't even begun and I'm tired of Joey Porter.

 

[Kleck]

Shocking. A man of his character and humility? Shocking.

 

[Stillers Jr.]

Shocking. A man of his character and humility? Shocking.

Humility is certainly not one of Joey Porter's virtues...his character is one that I will take on my football team any day of the week....especially Sunday.

 

[Kleck]

Shocking. A man of his character and humility? Shocking.

Humility is certainly not one of Joey Porter's virtues...his character is one that I will take on my football team any day of the week....especially Sunday.

I have tons of respect for Ward, Bettis, the entire Rooney family, and many other members of the Steeler organization, but Porter is a tool.Loved how he tried to trash talk Stevens before the Super Bowl when he knew he would be across from Walter Jones all game long. How did that turn out for him? Even better was the one play when Stevens and Porter were actually face to face. Stevens pancaked him on a run play.

For what its worth, Stevens was been a tool for the majority of his career too, but he seems to have turned a corner. We'll see how long that sticks.

Blind homerism is never pretty.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Porter does run his mouth too much. Nothing new here. But he also (lately) has really shown up for big games. I'd say 3.8M is fair for him next year, beyond that....not sure he's worth $5M to the Steelers, and in no possible way is he worth upping if he pushes for a holdout. I like the guy but James Harrison may even be nastier than Joey Porter (loved the suplex on that idiot Browns fan who ran out on the field) and by everything I've seen is ready to step in as a starter for Porter. It may be a slight step down from Porter to Harrison, but if we're talking about a $4M diff, Porter can hit the bricks.

There was a comment from a PFT article that was pasted in the Steelers offseason thread that summed this up perfectly:

""Hey, Joey. If you want to know whether the team is going to overpay for a linebacker from a 3-4, zone-blitzing scheme that has made plenty of players into stars, we suggest that you place a call to Greg Lloyd. Or Kevin Greene. Or Chad Brown. Or Hardy Nickerson. Or Jerrol Williams. Or Levon Kirkland."

My thoughts exactly.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Anything that causes any kind of disruption among the Steelers is A-OK in my book, I don't care what it is.

I'd be bitter too, were I a Bengal fan. I can deal with a disruption about now (if this even qualifies as one) -- I think the Lombardi trophy is mounted somewher secure and won't be damaged.

 

[Jim11]

So far, it's all innuendo...neither Porter nor his agent have said anything regarding his contract.

He wasn't at the "voluntary" workouts, so the rumors began, but it turns out he had a knee scoped and should be fine by training camp.

 

[cracKer]

With the recent knee surgery, missing some time in preseason may not be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure he understands the defense and it may help keep him from being a regular member of the injury report come November.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Say what you want about Porter, he's dumb, arrogant, overrated, etc. Most of it is probably true. But his teammates love him and he backed up his ####talk in the playoffs last year. Peyton Manning must still have flashbacks of 55. No chance the Steelers re-do his contract. Porter had his ups and downs last year and by the time his contract terminates at the end of the 2007-2008 season my guess is the Steelers will have a young OLB ready to take over.

 

[Borat]

I have tons of respect for Ward, Bettis, the entire Rooney family, and many other members of the Steeler organization, but Porter is a tool.

Loved how he tried to trash talk Stevens before the Super Bowl when he knew he would be across from Walter Jones all game long. How did that turn out for him? Even better was the one play when Stevens and Porter were actually face to face. Stevens pancaked him on a run play.

For what its worth, Stevens was been a tool for the majority of his career too, but he seems to have turned a corner. We'll see how long that sticks.

Blind homerism is never pretty.

I agree on all points.

 

[Godsbrother]

Loved how he tried to trash talk Stevens before the Super Bowl when he knew he would be across from Walter Jones all game long. How did that turn out for him?

Not the biggest Joey Porter fan but since he is the one wearing the Super Bowl ring and Stevens isn't I would say it turned out OK for Porter.And I haven't read anything that Porter is "angry" about his contract, only speculation that he might hold out. I'm not sure how much truth there is to this rumor but Porter's been around long enough to know that the Steelers will not negotiate with a hold out.

 

[mad sweeney]

Porter does run his mouth too much. Nothing new here. But he also (lately) has really shown up for big games.

His 3 tackles in the SB along with being pancaked by the guy he called 'soft' really attest to that. Or maybe it's his loud crying about refs and such that you're talking about when you say shows up. I almost had an ounce of respect for him when he threatened to tell Bush a few things, but of course he "apologized". The TO apology type: I regret that what I did or said was taken out of context. He's as much of a tool as TO, but without the game breaking ability. An overrated loudmouth who barely showed up for the biggest game of his career.

 

[mad sweeney]

Loved how he tried to trash talk Stevens before the Super Bowl when he knew he would be across from Walter Jones all game long. How did that turn out for him?

Not the biggest Joey Porter fan but since he is the one wearing the Super Bowl ring and Stevens isn't I would say it turned out OK for Porter.And I haven't read anything that Porter is "angry" about his contract, only speculation that he might hold out. I'm not sure how much truth there is to this rumor but Porter's been around long enough to know that the Steelers will not negotiate with a hold out.

There's guys on the bench that did almost as much as Porter to win that ring. He trashed Stevens all week for an innocent little comment, talked about how JS would be on the ground all game. THen in the only head to head matchup between the 2, Porter the tough guy got LEVELLED by the "soft" TE. And Stevens got a TD. 3 tackles<TD/getting pancaked. He may have won the game, but he was a minor at best reason for it and all his #### talking got him staring up into the rafters.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Porter's the type that you'd love to have on your team but hate when he's not, and that's fine with me. There are lots of guys like that in the NFL. He's loved by his teammates and he's one of the true leaders on the team.

I had a problem with him running his mouth but not backing it up on the field, but last year he stepped up when it mattered most time and time again. Just because he struggled in the Super Bowl against Walter Jones like most do doesn't take away from the MANY big plays he made during the season and in the playoffs.

And as far as Stevens is concerned, I wonder if Porter's talking got into his head a little bit... the guy's dropped passes had a HUGE impact on the game, and catching a wide open TD didn't make up for them.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Say what you want about Porter, he's dumb, arrogant, overrated, etc. Most of it is probably true. But his teammates love him and he backed up his ####talk in the playoffs last year. Peyton Manning must still have flashbacks of 55. No chance the Steelers re-do his contract. Porter had his ups and downs last year and by the time his contract terminates at the end of the 2007-2008 season my guess is the Steelers will have a young OLB ready to take over.

1) Porter got some big sacks in the indy game, but a lot of credit should go to lebeau for the blitzing schemes, and Polamalu, for being so outstanding that the colts were obsessed with stopping him. Porter was flying past Dallas Clark, Edge, or whoever else was supposed to pick up the blitz because they were always cheating inside when troy came up to the line before the play. Farrior was also excellent blitzing from the outside (not his usual role)2) Harrison is already at Porter/Haggans level if you ask me.

 

[brewer]

2) Harrison is already at Porter/Haggans level if you ask me.

I'm tired of Porter's antics. Heck, Joey got into a pre-game fight with a backup punter! Just go play the game Joey, otherwise, James will gladly play it instead.

All that being said, Porter was a beast down the stretch and into the playoffs. If he is healthy and motivated, he can still be the best linebacker on the team. It's that motivation part that I'm worried about this year.

 

[mad sweeney]

Porter's the type that you'd love to have on your team but hate when he's not, and that's fine with me. There are lots of guys like that in the NFL. He's loved by his teammates and he's one of the true leaders on the team.

I had a problem with him running his mouth but not backing it up on the field, but last year he stepped up when it mattered most time and time again. Just because he struggled in the Super Bowl against Walter Jones like most do doesn't take away from the MANY big plays he made during the season and in the playoffs.

And as far as Stevens is concerned, I wonder if Porter's talking got into his head a little bit... the guy's dropped passes had a HUGE impact on the game, and catching a wide open TD didn't make up for them.

Of all Seahawks, his play was the most damaging. DJax a close second with his lackadaisacal approach to his 2 could've-been TDs.I doubt, and it's just my opinion, that Porter caused Stevens' poor performance. H2H, Stevens won big time. And Jones making Porter a non-factor certainly didn't make Jerramy nervous. He just reverted back to bust form. He made 2 good catches though, one of which was called back. He beat the coverages on his drops and just Korened us. He owes us a career season, I'd say.

As for Porter and his contract, well he IS under contract and not getting chump change for his services like Walker or Gates. I just hope that, like so many Steeler LBs before him, that we don't end up with him and have to deal with his mouth.

 

[Stillers Jr.]

Shocking. A man of his character and humility? Shocking.

Humility is certainly not one of Joey Porter's virtues...his character is one that I will take on my football team any day of the week....especially Sunday.

I have tons of respect for Ward, Bettis, the entire Rooney family, and many other members of the Steeler organization, but Porter is a tool.Loved how he tried to trash talk Stevens before the Super Bowl when he knew he would be across from Walter Jones all game long. How did that turn out for him? Even better was the one play when Stevens and Porter were actually face to face. Stevens pancaked him on a run play.

For what its worth, Stevens was been a tool for the majority of his career too, but he seems to have turned a corner. We'll see how long that sticks.

Blind homerism is never pretty.

Man, if only I could be as objective and open minded as Shick...who definitely has no axe to grind.

 

[Kleck]

Man, if only I could be as objective and open minded as Shick...who definitely has no axe to grind.

You wish. My reputation speaks for itself. Find someone else on the board that believes I'm a blind homer. I call it like I see it. You won't find a post of mine whining about the Super Bowl loss. I've consistently given credit to the better team that won that game.Facts are facts. Pittsburgh won that Super Bowl in spite of Porter, not because of him.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Man, if only I could be as objective and open minded as Shick...who definitely has no axe to grind.

Facts are facts. Pittsburgh won that Super Bowl in spite of Porter, not because of him.

This, I disagree with. While Porter didn't have a great Super Bowl, they didn't have to overcome his mistakes and he didn't stand out on the field with missed tackles or blown coverages. I've watched the game a few times and haven't really noticed him much, good or bad.

He played an average game in every way, and he was neutralized by the best LT in the game when he tried to rush the passer. No shame in that, but I'd hardly say they won in spite of him.

He made a lot of significant contributions during the season and playoffs to get them there, and as it's been pointed out, that was due in part to the defensive scheming. It was left on Porter to make plays, and he did... a lot of them.

 

[ren hoek]

Facts are facts. Pittsburgh won that Super Bowl in spite of Porter, not because of him.

Pittsburgh won that Super Bowl inspite of quite a few players, in fact.

 

[Franknbeans]

Porter's a firy player and he plays with a lot of heart, but I don't think many Steelers fans would care if the team cut ties and signed a player that was more complete for cheaper, and didn't cause 10% as many problems.

Porter's never caused any problems at all before this...and it's not even for sure if he'll hold out or not, neither he nor his agent have said anything, so it's all rumors at this point.Just curious, what do you mean by a player who "doesn't cause 10% as many problems?" When ahs Porter ever stirred up trouble for his own team?

If you haven't followed Joey Porter's career, he's constantly running his mouth. I think in general, most Steelers fans are sick of him. His comments about the Colts being "soft", his fight with Terrelle Smith resulting in an ejection, and things like the Joey Porter boot just get old after awhile.From what I remember, most Steelers fans were sick of him last year.

He had a great post-season though, and he did have double-digit sacks last year. But I think the Steelers could replace him pretty easily.

you'd be wrong

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Man, if only I could be as objective and open minded as Shick...who definitely has no axe to grind.

You wish. My reputation speaks for itself. Find someone else on the board that believes I'm a blind homer. I call it like I see it. You won't find a post of mine whining about the Super Bowl loss. I've consistently given credit to the better team that won that game.Facts are facts. Pittsburgh won that Super Bowl in spite of Porter, not because of him.

Some might say the Super Bowl was won 3 weeks earlier in Indy. 55 was glued to 18 in that one.

 

[SSOG]

Breaking news: Joey Porter is angry at his lack of anything to be angry about. Full story at 11.

 

[The Reverend]

Porter's a firy player and he plays with a lot of heart, but I don't think many Steelers fans would care if the team cut ties and signed a player that was more complete for cheaper, and didn't cause 10% as many problems.

Porter's never caused any problems at all before this...and it's not even for sure if he'll hold out or not, neither he nor his agent have said anything, so it's all rumors at this point.Just curious, what do you mean by a player who "doesn't cause 10% as many problems?" When ahs Porter ever stirred up trouble for his own team?

If you haven't followed Joey Porter's career, he's constantly running his mouth. I think in general, most Steelers fans are sick of him. His comments about the Colts being "soft", his fight with Terrelle Smith resulting in an ejection, and things like the Joey Porter boot just get old after awhile.From what I remember, most Steelers fans were sick of him last year.

He had a great post-season though, and he did have double-digit sacks last year. But I think the Steelers could replace him pretty easily.

you'd be wrong

It'd be you who'd be wrong. Until last year, many of us thought he was on his last hurrah. With the surgery, the ill-advised Bush comments (not all us peeps hate our President, you geniuses), and money complaints... we'll turn on him pretty quick. Porter is good, but he aint no Lloyd, Greene, Nickerson, Holmes, Brown, Kirkland, or etc, but he could be after we cut him....

 

[Borat]

Porter's the type that you'd love to have on your team...

Wrong. There are no Porter types on the Patriots, and I thank God (Bill Belichick) for that.

 

[brewer]

Porter's the type that you'd love to have on your team...

Wrong. There are no Porter types on the Patriots, and I thank God (Bill Belichick) for that.

Huh? I'm no Joey Porter fan, but Rodney Harrison is no saint either.

 

[Homey]

Shocking. A man of his character and humility? Shocking.

Humility is certainly not one of Joey Porter's virtues...his character is one that I will take on my football team any day of the week....especially Sunday.

I have tons of respect for Ward, Bettis, the entire Rooney family, and many other members of the Steeler organization, but Porter is a tool.Loved how he tried to trash talk Stevens before the Super Bowl when he knew he would be across from Walter Jones all game long. How did that turn out for him? Even better was the one play when Stevens and Porter were actually face to face. Stevens pancaked him on a run play.

For what its worth, Stevens was been a tool for the majority of his career too, but he seems to have turned a corner. We'll see how long that sticks.

Blind homerism is never pretty.

Stevens had a great game.

 

[Homey]

Porter's a firy player and he plays with a lot of heart, but I don't think many Steelers fans would care if the team cut ties and signed a player that was more complete for cheaper, and didn't cause 10% as many problems.

Porter's never caused any problems at all before this...and it's not even for sure if he'll hold out or not, neither he nor his agent have said anything, so it's all rumors at this point.Just curious, what do you mean by a player who "doesn't cause 10% as many problems?" When ahs Porter ever stirred up trouble for his own team?

If you haven't followed Joey Porter's career, he's constantly running his mouth. I think in general, most Steelers fans are sick of him. His comments about the Colts being "soft", his fight with Terrelle Smith resulting in an ejection, and things like the Joey Porter boot just get old after awhile.From what I remember, most Steelers fans were sick of him last year.

He had a great post-season though, and he did have double-digit sacks last year. But I think the Steelers could replace him pretty easily.

you'd be wrong

 

[CrossEyed]

With the surgery, the ill-advised Bush comments (not all us peeps hate our President, you geniuses),...

This was taken completely out of context and distorted by the media. I saw the video of his comments and you could tell he was joking around. Joey Porter being Joey Porter. There are times I wish he'd just shut his mouth, but I don't think he deserves the criticism he's received for these comments.

 

[redman]

Porter's the type that you'd love to have on your team...

Wrong. There are no Porter types on the Patriots, and I thank God (Bill Belichick) for that.

Huh? I'm no Joey Porter fan, but Rodney Harrison is no saint either.

I don't see Rodney Harrison being nearly the distraction for his team that Porter is for his. I know there are exceptions to be found ,but Rodney tends to be controversial for the way he plays, not the way he talks.

 

[Homey]

Porter's the type that you'd love to have on your team...

Wrong. There are no Porter types on the Patriots, and I thank God (Bill Belichick) for that.

Huh? I'm no Joey Porter fan, but Rodney Harrison is no saint either.

I don't see Rodney Harrison being nearly the distraction for his team that Porter is for his. I know there are exceptions to be found ,but Rodney tends to be controversial for the way he plays, not the way he talks.

Um, when has Porter proven to actually be a distraction? When they went 15-1 or when they won the Super Bowl?

 

[Borat]

Porter's the type that you'd love to have on your team...

Wrong. There are no Porter types on the Patriots, and I thank God (Bill Belichick) for that.

Huh? I'm no Joey Porter fan, but Rodney Harrison is no saint either.

During his New England career, when exactly has Rodney Harrison run his mouth about a specific player the way Porter did? Harrison didn't even take Freddie Mitchell's bait, and Mitchell went a hell of a lot further than Stevens did. When has Harrison skipped minicamp or considered holding out? When has Harrison been a virtual no-show at the Super Bowl?When has Harrison taken a bullet to the rear end under suspect circumstances?

 

[redman]

Porter's the type that you'd love to have on your team...

Wrong. There are no Porter types on the Patriots, and I thank God (Bill Belichick) for that.

Huh? I'm no Joey Porter fan, but Rodney Harrison is no saint either.

I don't see Rodney Harrison being nearly the distraction for his team that Porter is for his. I know there are exceptions to be found ,but Rodney tends to be controversial for the way he plays, not the way he talks.

Um, when has Porter proven to actually be a distraction? When they went 15-1 or when they won the Super Bowl?

Funny, but that argument didn't work with TO in 2004, now did it.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Man, if only I could be as objective and open minded as Shick...who definitely has no axe to grind.

Simmer down, Beavis. Shick! has no axe to grind.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

During his New England career, when exactly has Rodney Harrison run his mouth about a specific player the way Porter did? Harrison didn't even take Freddie Mitchell's bait, and Mitchell went a hell of a lot further than Stevens did. When has Harrison skipped minicamp or considered holding out? When has Harrison been a virtual no-show at the Super Bowl?

When has Harrison taken a bullet to the rear end under suspect circumstances?

I think Harrison is a cheapshot ###########, but he's always carried himself well off the field and seems like a team guy.I was agreeing with you until your last sentence. Dislike Porter all you want, I'm not here to defend him because he can act like an ###. But there were no "suspect circumstances" about his shooting. He was leaving a bar (watching a football game with some college buddies) and someone opened fire on the crowd outside. Nothing suspect about that, unless you know something I don't.

 

[Steelers4Life]

I remember reading an article about Joey Porter and Jerome Bettis as team leaders last year, and how much they meant to the team.

Especially leading up to the Super Bowl. Joey was asked before the Colts game about how he's dealing with the media's scrutiny over his comments, and his response was something to the effect that if they're worrying about him, then that's less scrutiny that Ben Roethlisberger has to live with, and that was more important than anything to him. And that's what being a leader is.

The focus on Bettis returning to Detroit and Porter's comments about Stevens were overdone by the media, but both Joey and Jerome were more than able to deal with the scrutiny. More importantly, it allowed a lot of the focus to shift away from Roethlisberger and allowed him to focus more on the football aspect of things than the media circus around the game. And that was done intentionally. Now, Ben didn't play a great game in the Super Bowl and Porter's pass-rushing was neutralized by Walter Jones (who isn't?), but Porter was a key piece of the Super Bowl run.

He's not a distraction for the team, and he never really has been. He definitely picked up his game last year, as did a few other members of the defense, and a lot of that was due to being inspired by **** LeBeau.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Porter's a firy player and he plays with a lot of heart, but I don't think many Steelers fans would care if the team cut ties and signed a player that was more complete for cheaper, and didn't cause 10% as many problems.

Porter's never caused any problems at all before this...and it's not even for sure if he'll hold out or not, neither he nor his agent have said anything, so it's all rumors at this point.Just curious, what do you mean by a player who "doesn't cause 10% as many problems?" When ahs Porter ever stirred up trouble for his own team?

If you haven't followed Joey Porter's career, he's constantly running his mouth. I think in general, most Steelers fans are sick of him. His comments about the Colts being "soft", his fight with Terrelle Smith resulting in an ejection, and things like the Joey Porter boot just get old after awhile.From what I remember, most Steelers fans were sick of him last year.

He had a great post-season though, and he did have double-digit sacks last year. But I think the Steelers could replace him pretty easily.

I'm a Steelers fan...and I can honestly say that the vast majority of us think Porter is a great player, and that he's the unquestioned emotional leader on defense. His comments on the Colts, he later said in a short interview with a local Pittsburhg paper, were to try to get the Colts to come out "too angry" and try too hard. He knew they would be a little rusty (remember the Steelers were also rusty in 2004 after resting a lot) and he was counting on them trying way too hard. He was right.and lol...I remember that fight with Terrelle Smith. And I can honestly tell you, that we all loved it! The Steelers of the 70's and 90's always had a "tough guy" persona, and intimidated our opponents, and wouldn't take jack **** from anybody. Seeing Joey Porter fight a member of one of our rivals was great!

I mean, this is the franchise who had Jack Lambert and Greg Lloyd on our teams. The nastier, and more hated by our opponents our Linebackers are, the better. As long as they're not just bad sports who tear apart the team, and Porter isn't a guy like that.

 

[Borat]

During his New England career, when exactly has Rodney Harrison run his mouth about a specific player the way Porter did?  Harrison didn't even take Freddie Mitchell's bait, and Mitchell went a hell of a lot further than Stevens did.  When has Harrison skipped minicamp or considered holding out?  When has Harrison been a virtual no-show at the Super Bowl?

When has Harrison taken a bullet to the rear end under suspect circumstances?

I think Harrison is a cheapshot ###########, but he's always carried himself well off the field and seems like a team guy.I was agreeing with you until your last sentence. Dislike Porter all you want, I'm not here to defend him because he can act like an ###. But there were no "suspect circumstances" about his shooting. He was leaving a bar (watching a football game with some college buddies) and someone opened fire on the crowd outside. Nothing suspect about that, unless you know something I don't.

I just threw that in there as a cheap shot joke, my friend. That's why I used a separate paragraph.

 

[QUEZILLA]

Steelers should trade him while he is at peak value IMO.

Hey Joey, learn a lesson from Warren Sapp. Loud mouth, "love him when he is on your team", jerk who got no love when he eventually dropped his performance.

 

[ShadowMaster]

""Hey, Joey. If you want to know whether the team is going to overpay for a linebacker from a 3-4, zone-blitzing scheme that has made plenty of players into stars, we suggest that you place a call to Greg Lloyd. Or Kevin Greene. Or Chad Brown. Or Hardy Nickerson. Or Jerrol Williams. Or Levon Kirkland."

My thoughts exactly.

MONEY

 

[Jous]

""Hey, Joey.  If you want to know whether the team is going to overpay for a linebacker from a 3-4, zone-blitzing scheme that has made plenty of players into stars, we suggest that you place a call to Greg Lloyd.  Or Kevin Greene.  Or Chad Brown.  Or Hardy Nickerson.  Or Jerrol Williams.  Or Levon Kirkland."

My thoughts exactly.

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What are you talking about AhrnCityPahnder????First of all, Hardy Nickerson just sucked....he was by no means a star. Jerrol Wiliams had a couple good seasons with Pittsburgh, but he was never a great pass rusher, and certainly not a product of the 3-4 zone blitzing scheme. He had one good season in sacks (9) and otherwise never had mroe than 4 sacks in a season as a Steeler.

Kevin Greene, Chad Brown, and Greg Lloyd were just great linebackers, not products of the system. Greene only spent 3 years as a Steeler, and before that and after that proved how great he was as an LA Ram and a Carolina Panther. Chad Brown had success as a Seahawk after he left Pittsburgh. Greg Lloyd may have been the best of all them, but injuries slowed him down. Had he not been injured, I think there would be some good, solid cases to be made for his entry into the Hall of Fame. He and Derrick Thomas were the best LB's in the NFL in the early 90's.