Jonathan Dwyer (1 Viewer)

[Eminence]

With Mendenhall potentially missing time this season could Dwyer be a decent value this year? I'm not sold on Redman and Dwyer was highly thought of in years past but had a terrible Combine (IIRC).

What do you guys think? Snagging both Redman and Dwyer in later rounds would ensure you the #1 Back in a very good offense for a big portion of the year.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Dwyer is the best runner on the team imo. but coming off broken foot, you've got to wonder what his conditioning will be like.

he could just as easily be off roster (draft pick/fa brought in) as easily as starting for steelers in 2012.

 

[loose circuits]

I had Baron Batch on my roster already and then acquired Dwyer for 2 4th rounders, I think between the two one of them will have a role unless Pitt goes RB early. The good news with Dwyer as he has potential to fulfill a feature back role since Mendy is in a contract year.

You could do worse

 

[MAC_32]

If your draft isn't until after April 26 I'd just wait before making plans.

 

[Black&Gold]

Redman is being overlooked. He could be a monster and Mendy could be an afterthought. I have him and am trying to deal him to the Mendy owner but I'm not going to give him away. His value is very low right now and he's the starter right NOW and he's impressed me when given the chance. He isn't the home run threat that Mendy was/is but he moves the chains better. I'll be shocked if the Steelers take a RB early in the draft. They'll roll with what they have and give Redman first crack. I say he takes it and doesn't look back.

 

[H8fulHuck]

If your draft isn't until after April 26 I'd just wait before making plans.

agree with the point, but wrong day. pead is a likely suspect because of his blocking & receiving ability. should make a fine 3rd down back.the feature back waters are muddy. redman is likely to get first crack as the starter, but batch or dwyer could pass him up. it's a typical next man up scenerio and the competition should be intense.

 

[DoubleG]

Redman is being overlooked. He could be a monster and Mendy could be an afterthought.

A guy who the previous 2 seasons rushed for 1200+ and 1100+ and had 22 TDs in his last 2 seasons and is only 24 year's old...an afterthought? I realize that some people think Mendy isn't the sexiest RB but seriously? Mendy is the starter when he comes back healthy. Period. No question (or afterthoughts).

 

[treat88]

Redman is being overlooked. He could be a monster and Mendy could be an afterthought.

A guy who the previous 2 seasons rushed for 1200+ and 1100+ and had 22 TDs in his last 2 seasons and is only 24 year's old...an afterthought? I realize that some people think Mendy isn't the sexiest RB but seriously? Mendy is the starter when he comes back healthy. Period. No question (or afterthoughts).

Disagree respectfully. Lots of questions IMO.The first question is when does he come back healthy? Is that 2012? If so, Redman will have likely had a minimum of 6 games to demonstrate what he can do as a lead back. Second question, once off PUP, how healthy will Mendenahll look and (third question) how much will the Steelers limit his touches to allow him to continue to recover?

If Redman's got a hot hand and Mendenhall is still working his way back, I don't think it's at all clear he is simply handed a full workload at any point in 2012.

Throw in that this is Mendenhall's final year on his deal and that raises yet another (fourth) question. Do the Steelers make a decision to simply move on and roll with Redman as the lead carrier in anticipation of Mendenhall leaving in 2013? If the cap is flat and facing contract concerns with both Wallace and Antonio Brown, I view Mendenhall as completely expendable for cap purposes. Unless he comes back at far more of a discount than I anticipate, I think Mendenhall is as good as gone in 2013.

Finally, there are already questions about who is the better fir for the Steelers O as currently comprised and given the OL situation. Many knowledgeable fans believe Redman can be equal to if not more productive than Mendenhall.

So, again respectfully, I don't think Mendenhall's future in Pitt is nearly so cut and dried as you seem to.

As to the Dwyer question, he needs to spend this off season with Tom Shaw, as has been rumored, rather than his usual Ronald McDonalds off season. He's got to answer the motivational and health questions long before I'd consider him to be anymore than competition with Clay to be Redman's caddy.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Redman is being overlooked. He could be a monster and Mendy could be an afterthought.

A guy who the previous 2 seasons rushed for 1200+ and 1100+ and had 22 TDs in his last 2 seasons and is only 24 year's old...an afterthought? I realize that some people think Mendy isn't the sexiest RB but seriously? Mendy is the starter when he comes back healthy. Period. No question (or afterthoughts).

did you know he got hurt?

 

[MAC_32]

Redman is being overlooked. He could be a monster and Mendy could be an afterthought.

A guy who the previous 2 seasons rushed for 1200+ and 1100+ and had 22 TDs in his last 2 seasons and is only 24 year's old...an afterthought? I realize that some people think Mendy isn't the sexiest RB but seriously? Mendy is the starter when he comes back healthy. Period. No question (or afterthoughts).

His production and talent is very replaceable. If he was more talented than the others on the roster then the injury just evened the playing field AND he's going to command a raise on a team already stretched thin at the cap.If Mendenhall has a feature job again it'll either be elsewhere or on a very team friendly deal in Pittsburgh. Since I expect the Steelers to draft a RB that team friendly Pittsburgh deal probably puts him in a committee.

 

[finito]

Redman is being overlooked. He could be a monster and Mendy could be an afterthought.

A guy who the previous 2 seasons rushed for 1200+ and 1100+ and had 22 TDs in his last 2 seasons and is only 24 year's old...an afterthought? I realize that some people think Mendy isn't the sexiest RB but seriously? Mendy is the starter when he comes back healthy. Period. No question (or afterthoughts).

did you know he got hurt?

and wasn't very good before he got hurt.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Dwyer is the best runner on the team imo. but coming off broken foot, you've got to wonder what his conditioning will be like.

he could just as easily be off roster (draft pick/fa brought in) as easily as starting for steelers in 2012.

 

[Childress]

Mark Kaboly ‏@MarkKaboly_Trib

Dwyer running first team RB in team drills.

Mark Kaboly ‏@MarkKaboly_Trib

Jon Dwyer really crisp out there. He is thinner and quicker

Maybe he fell in the draft because he was a different kind of dude (like foster)?

That and maybe he learned to work hard.

 

[SammyJankis]

Dwyer is the kind of huge upside pick I love to take with a late round flyer. I'm just afraid that anyone with a draft right before the start of the season (many of us) are going to see the price has gone up on him by then.

In other words I don't think he'll still be a "late round flyer" by Labor day weekend.

 

[SammyJankis]

Dwyer is the kind of huge upside pick I love to take with a late round flyer. I'm just afraid that anyone with a draft right before the start of the season (many of us) are going to see the price has gone up on him by then. In other words I don't think he'll still be a "late round flyer" by Labor day weekend.

BTW, just took a look at MFL's average draft position.- In all drafts Dwyer is going at pick #224 on average.(In other words middle of the 22nd round in a ten team league. That is, undrafted.)- Since August 1st average draft position is #204- Since yesterday (admittedly small sample size) he is #160.Obviously trending upwards.

 

[pecorino]

just an FYI, i believe the steelers only had two running backs healthy enough to run in drills today so the fact that he ran with the 1st team is no surprise and carries no deep meaning. except of course that the RB corps is decimated right now. actually, i think redman's injury is being reported as minor.

despite all that, i agree that you could do a lot worse for a late-round flyer.