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RB Dylan Sampson, CLE (3 Viewers)

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travdogg

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I couldn't find a thread for him, so I guess I'll start one.

I think Sampson is arguably the RB2 in this class, depending on what you want your RB to do. It kinda blows my mind that Henderson is ranked so much more highly than Sampson, when they are similar size/speed, and Sampson is the one who has proven he can handle a big workload and be the centerpiece of an offense.

Sampson had 258-1491-22 for the Vols this year and was the SEC Offensive Player of the Year. He split work with Jaylen Wright in 2023. He was also 1 of only 4 RBs in this class who had a 90+ PFF grade this season (Jeanty, Skattebo, and Martinez were the others) and has untapped upside as a pass catcher but wasn't used in that manner as its just not the offense the Vols run.

Sampson ran a 4.42 40, at 5-8 200, and doesn't turn 21 until after week 1. His comps have ranged from Reggie Bush to Tyrone Tracy. Personally, I like James Cook as a comp.

Based on where he's mocked (the 75-125 range) I think he may be the best RB value in this class. I think he should be going in round 2.
 
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Daniel Harms
One of the things I really appreciate about Tennessee RB Dylan Sampson #6 is his line of scrimmage operation. He gives himself options staying square and reacting to quick flashes from the defense. His footwork and lateral agility are impressive
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Evan Lazar
I'm in on Dylan Sampson as a day-two RB target. Great vision between the tackles, sets up his blocks well, smooth lateral cuts, has breakaway speed to hit big plays/bounce runs, and nose for the end zone (22 TDs in 2024).
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Tanner Weber
Dylan Sampson is one of my favorite RB prospects in this years class. Wasn’t asked to catch the ball a lot at Tennessee but gives me shades of Austin Ekeler as a runner.
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Can be had cheaply since they drafted Judkins, worth the investment imo. Blurbs of working him in the slot and wanting him more involved as a receiver. Only 20 years old, great production, mature, and a good skillset with room to grow. Teams took notice of what the Lions did with Monty/Gibbs and will try to follow suit. Great draft value for those that can be exercise patience. May be a tough road for the Browns this year, but they have draft capital next year and if this years unique selections of rookie QBs do not work out they should be in good position next year to attack the position or add strength to the aging oline.
 
travdogg said:
I couldn't find a thread for him, so I guess I'll start one.

I think Sampson is arguably the RB2 in this class, depending on what you want your RB to do. It kinda blows my mind that Henderson is ranked so much more highly than Sampson, when they are similar size/speed, and Sampson is the one who has proven he can handle a big workload and be the centerpiece of an offense.

Sampson had 258-1491-22 for the Vols this year and was the SEC Offensive Player of the Year. He split work with Jaylen Wright in 2023. He was also 1 of only 4 RBs in this class who had a 90+ PFF grade this season (Jeanty, Skattebo, and Martinez were the others) and has untapped upside as a pass catcher but wasn't used in that manner as its just not the offense the Vols run.

Sampson ran a 4.42 40, at 5-8 200, and doesn't turn 21 until after week 1. His comps have ranged from Reggie Bush to Tyrone Tracy. Personally, I like James Cook as a comp.

Based on where he's mocked (the 75-125 range) I think he may be the best RB value in this class. I think he should be going in round 2.
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Still think he is the RB2 of this class ?
 
Dez said:
travdogg said:
I couldn't find a thread for him, so I guess I'll start one.

I think Sampson is arguably the RB2 in this class, depending on what you want your RB to do. It kinda blows my mind that Henderson is ranked so much more highly than Sampson, when they are similar size/speed, and Sampson is the one who has proven he can handle a big workload and be the centerpiece of an offense.

Sampson had 258-1491-22 for the Vols this year and was the SEC Offensive Player of the Year. He split work with Jaylen Wright in 2023. He was also 1 of only 4 RBs in this class who had a 90+ PFF grade this season (Jeanty, Skattebo, and Martinez were the others) and has untapped upside as a pass catcher but wasn't used in that manner as its just not the offense the Vols run.

Sampson ran a 4.42 40, at 5-8 200, and doesn't turn 21 until after week 1. His comps have ranged from Reggie Bush to Tyrone Tracy. Personally, I like James Cook as a comp.

Based on where he's mocked (the 75-125 range) I think he may be the best RB value in this class. I think he should be going in round 2.
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Still think he is the RB2 of this class ?
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Not right now for sure, long term, less likely, but we'll see. I think he could absolutely be better than Judkins, though Judkins will certainly get 1st crack. I wouldn't be shocked if it ended up being a Mark Andrews/Hayden Hurst situation long term.

Sampson is an auto select for me 20 picks in. Him and Kyle Williams. Certainly still on the table that he's an Irving/Kyren day 3 steal. No idea why he fell so far. I do think Sampson and Skattebo were both poorly scouted by the NFL and think they both have more talent than Judkins or Harvey who went 2 rounds earlier.
 
travdogg said:
Dez said:
travdogg said:
I couldn't find a thread for him, so I guess I'll start one.

I think Sampson is arguably the RB2 in this class, depending on what you want your RB to do. It kinda blows my mind that Henderson is ranked so much more highly than Sampson, when they are similar size/speed, and Sampson is the one who has proven he can handle a big workload and be the centerpiece of an offense.

Sampson had 258-1491-22 for the Vols this year and was the SEC Offensive Player of the Year. He split work with Jaylen Wright in 2023. He was also 1 of only 4 RBs in this class who had a 90+ PFF grade this season (Jeanty, Skattebo, and Martinez were the others) and has untapped upside as a pass catcher but wasn't used in that manner as its just not the offense the Vols run.

Sampson ran a 4.42 40, at 5-8 200, and doesn't turn 21 until after week 1. His comps have ranged from Reggie Bush to Tyrone Tracy. Personally, I like James Cook as a comp.

Based on where he's mocked (the 75-125 range) I think he may be the best RB value in this class. I think he should be going in round 2.
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Still think he is the RB2 of this class ?
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Not right now for sure, long term, less likely, but we'll see. I think he could absolutely be better than Judkins, though Judkins will certainly get 1st crack. I wouldn't be shocked if it ended up being a Mark Andrews/Hayden Hurst situation long term.

Sampson is an auto select for me 20 picks in. Him and Kyle Williams. Certainly still on the table that he's an Irving/Kyren day 3 steal. No idea why he fell so far. I do think Sampson and Skattebo were both poorly scouted by the NFL and think they both have more talent than Judkins or Harvey who went 2 rounds earlier.
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I like Judkins more than you do and think he will be productive, but can see him and Sampson eventually having enough role each to be effective in FF if the Browns can get things stabilized with their quarterback position. I do think NFL teams get nervous about Tennessee’s running concepts as they are pretty limited to inside pulling techniques. Maybe they do not see enough versatility in the tape to be confident. I think Sampson showed good vision and has the footwork and speed to adjust to different concepts and he should transition and grow accordingly. Again, the kid is 20 years old and mature for his age. I think the Brown’s nailed this pick and him along with Judkins should provide a nice backfield for years to come.
 
Send me to the moon like that B Alex Crampton!

This guy's value HAS to be rising daily with Judkins looking more and more likely to miss "significant" time this year

Yeah yeah Jerome Ford and all but...
 
Gally said:
Who do you prefer between Taj Brooks and Sampson? Trying to get a value reference of Sampson.
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Sampson.

Had him ranked a lot higher then Brooks before the draft and while he got drafted a little later then I thought he still has better draft capital behind him.

He's also over 2 years younger, one of the younger players in the whole draft and that means a lot to me for RB's.

He'll be blocked by Judkins when he returns but I still think he's going to get suspended so you at least have a window where Sampson can do stuff and improve his value. Eventually he should make up the lesser half of a RBBC with Judkins but that to me beats being a pure handcuff like Brooks.

The offense environment is night and day but give it some time. As long as Stefanski is not fired he's a very good offensive mind and I think the offense is already going to be better then people think because he does not have to try and make it work with Watson.
 
I have 1 last draft tonight and I really, really want him but it's a keeper league so everyone is rookie hungry even though overdrafting a rookie like this kind of kills the keeper value
 
socrates said:
LawFitz said:
BlackCrowes said:
I’m interested
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Poor man's Treveyon Hendo? Maybe. NFL draft scouts didn't think so. But neither did they when they scouted former twinsies Phil Dorsett & Ty Lockett in their draft.
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Pauper's TreVeyon, perhaps. I like Sampson, but he is nowhere near the same class as TreVeyon.
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I had this exact same debate in the Tyler Lockett thread when he was drafted. Not trying to disrespect Tre. But I do think Sampson is a similar prospect - not quite the same, but a lot closer than most are conceiving at this moment. We'll have to see how they develop.
 
Faust said:
Eric Samulski
I’m legit baffled that Dylan Sampson’s ADP across multiple sites has him drafted AFTER Jaydon Blue, Cam Skattebo, Bhayshul Tuten, Rhamondre Stevenson, Braelon Allen, Joe Mixon, etc. He was good behind Jaylin Wright in ‘23 & elite when he’s left. He’s starting. What am I missing?
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I think he's missing a lot but don't think it's what I'd term as "wrong" to prefer Sampson over them, I think that's perfectly justifiable, but for me I think he's getting drafted where he should be.

For starters Jaylen Wright has sucked as well as just about every skill player from that Tennessee offense and while I don't believe in scouting the helmet that has to raise some level of concern about his ability to quickly translate because who has from that offense?

Secondly by the time the fantasy playoffs are here they are likely trotting out rookie QB's and I believe Judkins is back making him a low upside secondary part of a RBBC. I'm out on Joe Mixon, Rhamondre has a low ceiling but I think a higher floor and the other 3 have considerably higher ceilings to me.
 
LawFitz said:
socrates said:
LawFitz said:
BlackCrowes said:
I’m interested
:blackdot:
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Poor man's Treveyon Hendo? Maybe. NFL draft scouts didn't think so. But neither did they when they scouted former twinsies Phil Dorsett & Ty Lockett in their draft.
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Pauper's TreVeyon, perhaps. I like Sampson, but he is nowhere near the same class as TreVeyon.
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I had this exact same debate in the Tyler Lockett thread when he was drafted. Not trying to disrespect Tre. But I do think Sampson is a similar prospect - not quite the same, but a lot closer than most are conceiving at this moment. We'll have to see how they develop.
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Fair enough. I understand what you are getting at. There are some similar traits. Both Henderson and Sampson possess excellent speed, quickness and footwork. They both have the ability to turn a short gain into a house call. Like TreVeyoen, Dylan Sampson has surprising strength for his size, and he combines that with good vision, patience and instincts. Perhaps not TreVeyon level on any of those fronts, but very good, nonetheless.

However, Sampson lacks Henderson's pass protection skills and receiving ability. Sampson has struggled with ball security issues. I get the comparison, but there is a sizable gap between the two as prospects. If he can develop into the lightning complement to Judkins' thunder, Sampson may have surprising value. Tennessee did not develop Dylan Sanders in certain aspects of his game, but that does not mean he cannot become an asset as a third-down back.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
Faust said:
Eric Samulski
I’m legit baffled that Dylan Sampson’s ADP across multiple sites has him drafted AFTER Jaydon Blue, Cam Skattebo, Bhayshul Tuten, Rhamondre Stevenson, Braelon Allen, Joe Mixon, etc. He was good behind Jaylin Wright in ‘23 & elite when he’s left. He’s starting. What am I missing?
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We know he's starting? Like he's the 1A?
 
Ilov80s said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Faust said:
Eric Samulski
I’m legit baffled that Dylan Sampson’s ADP across multiple sites has him drafted AFTER Jaydon Blue, Cam Skattebo, Bhayshul Tuten, Rhamondre Stevenson, Braelon Allen, Joe Mixon, etc. He was good behind Jaylin Wright in ‘23 & elite when he’s left. He’s starting. What am I missing?
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We know he's starting? Like he's the 1A?
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No, we're just doing the usual Shark Pool overreaction based on a writer I've never heard of but sounds like he knows what he's talking about
Some folks have issues at their RB2/3 and Flex spots and could use a bonafide starting RB in Sleeper wear right now
I won't be surprised if Sampson cracks Top 25-30 Week 1 if he's gonna see touches. The Bengals aren't THAT good on defense but they should win comfortably
 
menobrown said:
Faust said:
Eric Samulski
I’m legit baffled that Dylan Sampson’s ADP across multiple sites has him drafted AFTER Jaydon Blue, Cam Skattebo, Bhayshul Tuten, Rhamondre Stevenson, Braelon Allen, Joe Mixon, etc. He was good behind Jaylin Wright in ‘23 & elite when he’s left. He’s starting. What am I missing?
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I think he's missing a lot but don't think it's what I'd term as "wrong" to prefer Sampson over them, I think that's perfectly justifiable, but for me I think he's getting drafted where he should be.

For starters Jaylen Wright has sucked as well as just about every skill player from that Tennessee offense and while I don't believe in scouting the helmet that has to raise some level of concern about his ability to quickly translate because who has from that offense?

Secondly by the time the fantasy playoffs are here they are likely trotting out rookie QB's and I believe Judkins is back making him a low upside secondary part of a RBBC. I'm out on Joe Mixon, Rhamondre has a low ceiling but I think a higher floor and the other 3 have considerably higher ceilings to me.
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:yes:

You're not starting him week 1 (v CIN) due to uncertainty then the Browns play BAL > GB > DET. Given the makeup of this team and the Judkins situation, there could be some plausible upside the next 4 games, but beyond the bye? Uncertainty out of his control reigns supreme. Is Flacco still starting? Has Judkins returned? When does the team enter full blown evaluation mode? And even if Flacco is starting, he's a net negative on RB's relative to other NFL QB's.

It'll take some needle threading (unexpected wins, Judkins drags on, Sampson overcomes situation) for this to still be a viable stock in the season's second half and no matter the circumstances the start will be bumpy.
 
I snagged him in a couple places for the contingent value. I think Judkins still isn't signed too? It may be a lost season for him in which case there's a fantasy RB2 in here I think.
 
Terpman22 said:
Send me to the moon like that B Alex Crampton!

This guy's value HAS to be rising daily with Judkins looking more and more likely to miss "significant" time this year

Yeah yeah Jerome Ford and all but...
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:ROFLMAO: Underappreciated Half Baked reference.

Thinking this guy is gonna return great early season value and potentially more.

I wanna talk to Samson!
 
I realize this is a simplified view, but, his tape even confined to just last year, from a layman's prospective seemed to be much better than many other backs in this draft class. Needless to say, I was disappointed to hear his name called to the Browns on draft day in light of their previous RB draft pick. Even once Judkins shows up, I believe there is room for both backs in this offense. Not ideal for FFball, but unfortunately, it's a more realistic outcome in today's NFL.
 
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