He's QB14 in my main league, and this week's 5 td's should move him into the top 10. He's been very consistent as well, with few interceptions and very few duds. With the development of the young roster progressing, and growing chemistry with his receivers, can 2011 be a breakout season for Freeman? Any chance at top 5? What missing pieces could get him there?
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
Josh Freeman 2011 prospects (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter elbowrm
- Start date
Johnny Ice
Footballguy
Definitely hoping to grab Freeman in the middle rounds next season as my QB 1. He's got the goods.
Hellfire Snail
Footballguy
Good back-up, but not better than Rodgers, Brees, Romo, Manning, Brady, Rivers, Vick, Schaub or Flacco, and doesn't have weapons as good as Stafford or Eli. I'd put him in the Cutler, Roethlisberger, Garrard group. Middle of the pack with middle of the pack weapons.
I was in the pool
Footballguy
This week was just nice to see as I targeted him in the preseason. In 2010 I saw a QB that had all the skills, but bogged down in the red zone with turnovers, etc. because the weapons around him were just not there. Now with Williams, Benn, Blount and Winslow - Freeman is able to shine a lot more in 2010. The South with Brees, Ryan, Freeman and Luck?? will continue to be a dogfight each year. In 2011, Freeman could be one of the best outside of that elite group of 6-8 QBs...
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
I'd rather have Freeman than Flacco, and maybe even schaub/romo (depending on how many pts deducted for ints, as he rarely throws them) And Blount, Williams, Benn are very good and improving rookies. You have to think they are primed to take a step forward next year.
Last edited by a moderator:
Topes
Footballguy
Schaub/Freeman owner here.Freeman has outperformed Freeman for a good portion of the season (in my league's scoring system). Schaub pulled dead even with him, based on weeks 13-15, a span in which he outperformed Freeman each week. After today's game, Freeman's got a good lead on Schaub.It's not just that Freeman puts up better numbers. He's a better QB at this point. He's poised to be an excellent 'consolation starter' next year.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Road him to a Championship today, great great job Freeman.............5 td's!
He's only going to get better. He was a very consistent QB this year and he's the kind of guy who can take advantage of lesser defenses which he plays plenty of and why I started him today. I look at him next year as a QBBC guy, how I played him this year.
I don't think he'll be an every week starter but the guy has upside and you won't be getting him for the price you got him this year which was around QB20. I see him going around the QB 10-13 range, love his young WR's too that are only going to get better.
He's only going to get better. He was a very consistent QB this year and he's the kind of guy who can take advantage of lesser defenses which he plays plenty of and why I started him today. I look at him next year as a QBBC guy, how I played him this year.
I don't think he'll be an every week starter but the guy has upside and you won't be getting him for the price you got him this year which was around QB20. I see him going around the QB 10-13 range, love his young WR's too that are only going to get better.
Dought Man
Footballguy
My head just asploded
As long Vick does not go off for 40 he probably won me a championship today. He has been very consistent all year and has a young talented group to throw to, I would definitely draft him in the middle rounds. Should be able to get 2 good qb's in the middle rounds next year. As long as they play that is!!
He's been underrated all year. Every week i was shocked to find that he wasn't owned in anywhere near 100% of leagues.
I'd expect a top 10 finish again in 2011, assuming their offense gets better with Benn and Williams still improving. Don't think he'll ever be a top tier guy though. He's in the Ryan/Roethlisberger category for me in fantasty.
I'd expect a top 10 finish again in 2011, assuming their offense gets better with Benn and Williams still improving. Don't think he'll ever be a top tier guy though. He's in the Ryan/Roethlisberger category for me in fantasty.
thatguy
Footballguy
He is already.
I picked him up in a 12 person league before last week because i didnt like my other two QB's, Big Ben and Cutlers matchups(and weather situations).He didnt do much last week, but barring a huge Percy Harvin game, Freeman will almost single handedly win me a championship with his performance today.I still wouldnt consider him a QB1 next year, but he will make a nice backup.
No way i would want him as a QB1 nest season. He would make a good QB2, but i would still put him well behind guys like Ryan and Eli Manning, and just behind guys like Flacco and Stafford.
two_dollars
Footballguy
He's someone I would target if I miss out on a top QB, and someone else snipes Tebow in the mid rounds.
Grady Wilson
Footballguy
Like others have said, I wouldn't trust him to be a QB #1, but a very good backup QB. One to definitely nab if your #1 QB doesn't pan out. If you don't get one of the top 5 or 6 QBs, I think Freeman is a must have backup.
Grady Wilson
Footballguy
I don't know about him being behind Eli. I had Eli this year and good grief he is so inconsistent it's frustrating to roll the dice on him. Thank goodness I didn't start him this week because I probably wouldn't have won my championship. Freeman will probably never again have a game like today (not too many QBs can), but he's going to put up a consistent 15-20 points every week IMO. I don't know if I can say the same for Manning.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
I. Loooove. Jaaaaash. Freeman!!!!
[/simmons]
[/simmons]
The int's hurt, but Eli will throw for 4000 yards and 30+ TD's this season, and that is with missing his top 2 WR's for a good part of the season. He may not be an every week must start, but he makes a good #1 as a part of a QBBC. I will gladly draft him in rounds 8-9 of drafts next year with a Stafford, Flacco, Fitzpatrick, etc. to back him up. Freeman has thrown for more than 250 yards 4 times this season and double digit TD's 6 times.Manning has thrown for more than 250 yards 8 times and multiple TD's 11 times this season.I know that Manning has thrown more Int's and Freeman is young and should improve, but in redrafts next year, Eli is a much better option.
Last edited by a moderator:
knickstorm
Footballguy
i'm loving his value, i had schaub and freeman in my league this year as well, schaub still has an overall point lead due to 300+ pass yard bonuses........of course below the first tier but right there and me even above flacco, mike williams is a stud, benn is coming on, he's got a stud tight end, plus freeman's good for at least 2-3 extra points on the ground in addition to what he gets through the air.
Last edited by a moderator:
I know he had a good matchup, but no way could you start him over Manning. Until today, Freeman went 23 games without throwing more than 2 TD's, something Manning does every other week.
DropKick
Footballguy
I started him over Rodgers yesterday. Granted, I was spooked about the concussion and gave (way?) too much credit to the NYG defense. I also liked Freeman's prospects against a Seattle team crossing the country. However, the deciding factor for me was that I was heavily favored and only needed a solid contribution if not a spectacular day. I couldn't take the chance of Rodgers getting KO'ed early. Yes, I puked in my mouth a little after the early long score to Nelson. But you have to recognize Freeman's consistency. Week in, week out, he is very steady. Got the win... laughing at by Buc laden team. Actually sat Blount and Winslow yesterday. Just couldn't play the championship game with four Buccaneers (Mike Williams)Go deep said:
cubbie5150
Footballguy
Hope his O-line is improved during the off-season; and I assume they'll bring in another RB.....can Winslow stay healthy?
In my league, Freeman has been a topic of conversation all year ever since I picked him up off waivers (the owner who drafted him dropped him to add Derek Anderson once he was named AZ starter prior to week 1). People liked his consistency; a blow-up game like this will only make him more expensive. Of course the view will be "zero downside, huge upside", never mind the small sample size. No one wants to miss out on the next big thing.
In my league, Freeman has been a topic of conversation all year ever since I picked him up off waivers (the owner who drafted him dropped him to add Derek Anderson once he was named AZ starter prior to week 1). People liked his consistency; a blow-up game like this will only make him more expensive. Of course the view will be "zero downside, huge upside", never mind the small sample size. No one wants to miss out on the next big thing.
Fensalk
Footballguy
I think there is some concern about the GM position in Tampa. They were praised for a good draft, but they really demonstrated no ability to operate in free agency under GM Mark Dominik. He claims the move in the minimum years of service from 4 to 6 in an uncapped year caused them to shun adding talent any other way but the draft. But the truth is that there are some VERY skilled GMs in this league that are able to dig thru the free agency pool and work trades to upgrade the talent on their roster every offseason, and Dominik simply isn't one of those guys. Either that or the team doesn't want to spend money. This franchise pretty much does nothing in free agency. I don't know how successful this program will ultimately be when one stream of talent good teams use just isn't flowing.
Ultimately this has the potential to negatively impact the development of Josh Freeman.
Ultimately this has the potential to negatively impact the development of Josh Freeman.
Premier
Footballguy
They've pulled in 16 rookies this year to play various parts. Blount, for better or for worse, was a free agent. They haven't dipped into the free-agent pool because it was a terrible crop of players last year and they stated that they were committed to building through young players.Safe to say it's worked.
Fensalk
Footballguy
What were looking for is a proven ability to find quality players in free agency and trades to fill out a roster. It is a basic skill every good GM has. Dominik has no track record of success in this regard, so it must be a big concern, no matter what reasoning is used to explain it away.
Premier
Footballguy
I'm not concerned about it at all. The team went from 3 to 9 wins this year, and he's brought in some top-shelf talent like Freeman, Mike Williams, Blount, McCoy and Winslow. Winslow, for one, came in a trade.I'd rather my GM be knocking out the drafts like Dominik has rather than chasing players who may have their best years behind them.
Fensalk
Footballguy
There are GMs that do a LOT better in free agency and trades than that though.
thatguy
Footballguy
Well, regardless of where you would want him next season, my points was simply that Freeman is already playing at a low end QB1 level. So, to say that next year he'll be a low end QB1 or a QB2 is to say that he doesn't expect Freeman to improve at all on 2010 production--in fact, it suggests that he thinks Freeman's production could in fact decline. He is presently QB8 in my league, so while he is not putting up elite numbers, he is right at the top of the second tier QBs.Go deep said:
