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'Magic_Man said:
This guy is all schtick & he types like a 14 YeAr OlD gIrL. :thumbdown:
Love the critique from the guy with Kermit the frog as his avatar....
Love the reply from the guy with no avatar.
 
Caddy will get 95 yards and a TD against NYG on MNF home opener, coming off the stinging loss to the Redksins? no way it happens.Hightower couldn't muster 95 yards against the Giants last week despite G-men give up 300+ yards to Rex Grossman..Rams offense has to get on the field in order for Caddy to do his thing...so the question is, just how are the Lambs going to stop Jacobs and Bradshaw? answer: they won't be able to stop them..they should run WILD on MNF, Lambs lose thetime of possession battle in a big ,big way..Giants will eat up the clock in this game..Does every single one of your 'sleepers' score a TD this week or what? I mean, I can see having a good game,but you've labeled each with a TD..Ed Dickson is not a sleeper, neither is Stafford.you want a sleeper? Nate Burleson. CJ hurt, might be hampered by it during the game.Burleson should be a beast.or Davone BessJohn Kasay - Saints will move the ball, they just might not score a lot of TDs.they will,however, score a lot of FG's.L. Blount - coming off of a 5 carry performance, he's due for a big, 25+ carry day..Santana Moss - Az defense vs. Redskins passing offense means big things for Moss, Grossman, and Co.
Are you not aware how banged up the NYG defense is? Also STL is a better team then Washington, IMO. You act like Grossman is a stud, lmao. Thats why they got torched in the air because they were looking to stop the run since NFL coaches dont even respect Grossman. This week I look for the banged up D to focus on stopping Bradford, which leaves Caddy to drive nicely. Stafford and Dickson not a sleeper, but Blount and Moss is? lolYes anyone can put up yards, but scoring a TD helps put up more points, hence why I think these guys are sleepers.Are you coming in here and talking about kickers? lolOh and...who are you? I never see anything of great value that you post...but after your last post, I understand why. lol
 
'DeaLerZ said:
alright.. seriously i think people need to quit arguing about dumb crap... who cares if Stafford fits the description of a "Sleeper" or not... the point is "JuSt CuZ" thinks he is going to do great this week.. which is obviously the point of this post...

sometimes people just like to argue, and waste half of a good post arguing about this or that...

This is a great post... I really like all your picks.. and you have really good points to back them up.. keep up the good work man.. it will help all of us out every week..

I really like the "Ed Dickson" pick.. just dropped him for C.J. "lame" Spiller... the guy is 6'4" 255lbs.. reminds me of another great TE who is 6'4" 260lbs by the name of Antonio Gates... could be huge this year in that offense potentially...and you know the ravens would not have gotten rid of Todd Heap if they didn't believe in him...
Your name has a striking resemblance to the OP's... coincidence? DeaLerZ, JuSt CuZ :lmao:
 
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'MIMN said:
Keep it up Just Cuz. Anyone willing to go out on a limb on a weekly basis is worth it. If it all goes to pot by week 4 you can post each week just...(I can't do it)...for a laugh.I drafted Stafford as my #1 QB. 10th QB off the board. He is a sleeper to finish top 5 overall for the year, just not this week.
How is calling Stafford a sleeper going out on a limb?America gets dumber by the minute...
First of all, let it be known, I like the avatar. I only hate when needed.And now its needed. Have you not read my explanation on what I believe a sleeper is? Just because more people just now realized last week what I have been getting mocked for saying for 2 years now, still does not mean he is not a sleeper.Second, if this much grief is generated over putting a guy that many people drafted as a backup as my sleeper, I think I could do worse.But keep the feedback coming, even if its hate. On a side note, it goes to show how many people are prisoners of the moment. Mendy sucks because he put up 45 yards against a Balt D and is no longer a top 10 RB, but Stafford has a good game and is no longer a sleeper QB? I love this forum.If you do not like my write ups, do not read them.
 
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'DeaLerZ said:
alright.. seriously i think people need to quit arguing about dumb crap... who cares if Stafford fits the description of a "Sleeper" or not... the point is "JuSt CuZ" thinks he is going to do great this week.. which is obviously the point of this post...

sometimes people just like to argue, and waste half of a good post arguing about this or that...

This is a great post... I really like all your picks.. and you have really good points to back them up.. keep up the good work man.. it will help all of us out every week..

I really like the "Ed Dickson" pick.. just dropped him for C.J. "lame" Spiller... the guy is 6'4" 255lbs.. reminds me of another great TE who is 6'4" 260lbs by the name of Antonio Gates... could be huge this year in that offense potentially...and you know the ravens would not have gotten rid of Todd Heap if they didn't believe in him...
Your name has a striking resemblance to the OP's... coincidence? DeaLerZ, JuSt CuZ :lmao:
LOL, yes anyone with one or more capital letters in its name is me.No one can accuse me of not taking on all ballbreakers.

ETA: Had to edit to fix your edit that you made in the bolded.

 
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'MIMN said:
Keep it up Just Cuz. Anyone willing to go out on a limb on a weekly basis is worth it. If it all goes to pot by week 4 you can post each week just...(I can't do it)...for a laugh.

I drafted Stafford as my #1 QB. 10th QB off the board. He is a sleeper to finish top 5 overall for the year, just not this week.
How is calling Stafford a sleeper going out on a limb?America gets dumber by the minute...
OK...so in the Stafford thread you are saying you are starting Romo over Stafford. Link to your comment >>> http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=611512

So if he is not a starter on your team, or got him as a back up to Romo in the draft...how is he not a sleeper?

I want an answer to this, its obvious you are just talking out of your....

One thing you are right about....the bolded.

 
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Nice list.

On Jacoby Jones - he belongs on the sleeper list for sure, but I do want to throw out a note of caution.

Miami has a good secondary and a good defense. You did not see anything to validate this on Monday night, but you did see Tom Brady at his finest. The 2 minute offense killed Miami's defense, and they ran it to perfection for a large portion of the game. You saw all of the Miami defenders exhausted in the first quarter, and cramping up by the 3rd. I dont see this happening again for a number of obvious reasons. This is a Mike Nolan Defense with a very good, very deep DL (Langford, Starks, Soliai, Odrick), solid LBs (Dansby, Burnett, Wake, Misi), good safeties (Y.Bell, R.Jones), and 2 very good young CBs (V.Davis, S.Smith). I dont think that what you saw on Monday night is going to be indicative of what you see moving forward. I think they just ran into an unstoppable force.

Jones is still an excellent sleeper based upon the fact that he is starting on a potent offense with a highly competent QB. And you cannot rule out the validity of the fact that Miami has the worst pass D numbers after a week - but there were other variables at play to get them there, and I expect them to finish the season in the top half of the leagues pass defenses.

Disclaimer - Miami Homer

 
'MIMN said:
Keep it up Just Cuz. Anyone willing to go out on a limb on a weekly basis is worth it. If it all goes to pot by week 4 you can post each week just...(I can't do it)...for a laugh.I drafted Stafford as my #1 QB. 10th QB off the board. He is a sleeper to finish top 5 overall for the year, just not this week.
How is calling Stafford a sleeper going out on a limb?America gets dumber by the minute...
Get a life before the administrator performs some magic...and makes you disappear!
 
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'JuSt CuZ said:
'Multiple Scores said:
I enjoy his posts and thoughts. Only time I notice either of your names when I notice trolling and negativity. Don't click his threads if they bother you so much. I may have seen cobalt with some good posts but magic man contributes zero and is 100% pure troll.

'cobalt_27 said:
'Magic_Man said:
This guy is all schtick & he types like a 14 YeAr OlD gIrL. :thumbdown:
He whores for attention more than LHUCKS these days.LOoK aT MeEEeeeE jUsT CUz
Thank you, even when I try to explain myself they still want trouble.
cobalt=Troll - pay it no attention..
 
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'JuSt CuZ said:
'kencav said:
Love the Jacoby pick....If ur predicting a shootout sleeper qb has to be Henne!
Not if your league takes away points for turnovers, he is a turnover bomb waiting to happen. I thought of Henne, and researched it a bit... but the possible 97 thousand turnovers from him scare me.
He is my starter in a 10 team league...have no question if he stays healthy that he will be a top 8 QB by the end of the year, possibly top 5
 
'MIMN said:
Keep it up Just Cuz. Anyone willing to go out on a limb on a weekly basis is worth it. If it all goes to pot by week 4 you can post each week just...(I can't do it)...for a laugh.I drafted Stafford as my #1 QB. 10th QB off the board. He is a sleeper to finish top 5 overall for the year, just not this week.
How is calling Stafford a sleeper going out on a limb?America gets dumber by the minute...
Get a life before the administrator performs some magic...and makes you disappear!
What kind of life should I get? I really like the one I already have.E-thugs out in force today.
 
Would be well deserved. Not sure how this hasn't happened yet, admins must be snoozing.

'MIMN said:
Keep it up Just Cuz. Anyone willing to go out on a limb on a weekly basis is worth it. If it all goes to pot by week 4 you can post each week just...(I can't do it)...for a laugh.I drafted Stafford as my #1 QB. 10th QB off the board. He is a sleeper to finish top 5 overall for the year, just not this week.
How is calling Stafford a sleeper going out on a limb?America gets dumber by the minute...
Get a life before the administrator performs some magic...and makes you disappear!
 
'MIMN said:
Keep it up Just Cuz. Anyone willing to go out on a limb on a weekly basis is worth it. If it all goes to pot by week 4 you can post each week just...(I can't do it)...for a laugh.

I drafted Stafford as my #1 QB. 10th QB off the board. He is a sleeper to finish top 5 overall for the year, just not this week.
How is calling Stafford a sleeper going out on a limb?America gets dumber by the minute...
OK...so in the Stafford thread you are saying you are starting Romo over Stafford. Link to your comment >>> http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=611512

So if he is not a starter on your team, or got him as a back up to Romo in the draft...how is he not a sleeper?

I want an answer to this, its obvious you are just talking out of your....

One thing you are right about....the bolded.
Just b/c I drafted him 1 round later does not make him a sleeper. It's dynasty so I wanted 2 solid QBs.No one had Stafford as a sleeper. You need to revisit the definition of sleeper.

/thread

 
Would be well deserved. Not sure how this hasn't happened yet, admins must be snoozing.

'MIMN said:
Keep it up Just Cuz. Anyone willing to go out on a limb on a weekly basis is worth it. If it all goes to pot by week 4 you can post each week just...(I can't do it)...for a laugh.I drafted Stafford as my #1 QB. 10th QB off the board. He is a sleeper to finish top 5 overall for the year, just not this week.
How is calling Stafford a sleeper going out on a limb?America gets dumber by the minute...
Get a life before the administrator performs some magic...and makes you disappear!
Gees, why should I get reported?I have strong opinions yes, but nothing deserving of a suspension or being reported.I'm just defending myself from the unbelievable haters, I have no problem with the hating, but I should get to respond to them.
 
Sorry to pile on, but I have to agree that Stafford can't be considered a sleeper. With your target audience here (Shark Pool), I'd wager that in 80% of cases, Stafford was drafted with the hopes of being the QB1 for their team. After last week's performance and with the defense he's facing, I can't imagine anyone not starting him against the Chiefs.

That said, I agree on Dickson. I think he's a great value play this week if you are weak at TE, and he likely went undrafted in pretty much every league.

 
If you do not like my write ups, do not read them.
If you don't expect/can't handle people to disagree don't post.
I have no problem, and I have been saying that. Infact I welcome it, as I'm not one who believes I only should be the one to critisize. You seem to be the one who has an issue with my opinion.Also, you still have not responded my Romo starting over my not sleeper Stafford wuestion.
 
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Would be well deserved. Not sure how this hasn't happened yet, admins must be snoozing.

'MIMN said:
Keep it up Just Cuz. Anyone willing to go out on a limb on a weekly basis is worth it. If it all goes to pot by week 4 you can post each week just...(I can't do it)...for a laugh.I drafted Stafford as my #1 QB. 10th QB off the board. He is a sleeper to finish top 5 overall for the year, just not this week.
How is calling Stafford a sleeper going out on a limb?America gets dumber by the minute...
Get a life before the administrator performs some magic...and makes you disappear!
Gees, why should I get reported?I have strong opinions yes, but nothing deserving of a suspension or being reported.I'm just defending myself from the unbelievable haters, I have no problem with the hating, but I should get to respond to them.
They're talking about Magic_Man
 
If you do not like my write ups, do not read them.
If you don't expect/can't handle people to disagree don't post.
I have no problem, and i have been saying that. You seem to be the one who has an issue with my opinion.Also, you still have not responded my Romo starting over my not sleeper Stafford wuestion.
How am I the one w/the issue when people started attacking me labeling me a troll for no good reason?Yes, I replied to that post of yours.
 
Would be well deserved. Not sure how this hasn't happened yet, admins must be snoozing.

'MIMN said:
Keep it up Just Cuz. Anyone willing to go out on a limb on a weekly basis is worth it. If it all goes to pot by week 4 you can post each week just...(I can't do it)...for a laugh.I drafted Stafford as my #1 QB. 10th QB off the board. He is a sleeper to finish top 5 overall for the year, just not this week.
How is calling Stafford a sleeper going out on a limb?America gets dumber by the minute...
Get a life before the administrator performs some magic...and makes you disappear!
Gees, why should I get reported?I have strong opinions yes, but nothing deserving of a suspension or being reported.I'm just defending myself from the unbelievable haters, I have no problem with the hating, but I should get to respond to them.
They're talking about Magic_Man
Ahhhh :thumbup:
 
Sorry to pile on, but I have to agree that Stafford can't be considered a sleeper. With your target audience here (Shark Pool), I'd wager that in 80% of cases, Stafford was drafted with the hopes of being the QB1 for their team. After last week's performance and with the defense he's facing, I can't imagine anyone not starting him against the Chiefs.That said, I agree on Dickson. I think he's a great value play this week if you are weak at TE, and he likely went undrafted in pretty much every league.
I agree that Stafford is probably more of an obvious starter at this point, but I'd disagree that he was typically drafted as a starter.
 
Would be well deserved. Not sure how this hasn't happened yet, admins must be snoozing.

'MIMN said:
Keep it up Just Cuz. Anyone willing to go out on a limb on a weekly basis is worth it. If it all goes to pot by week 4 you can post each week just...(I can't do it)...for a laugh.I drafted Stafford as my #1 QB. 10th QB off the board. He is a sleeper to finish top 5 overall for the year, just not this week.
How is calling Stafford a sleeper going out on a limb?America gets dumber by the minute...
Get a life before the administrator performs some magic...and makes you disappear!
Gees, why should I get reported?I have strong opinions yes, but nothing deserving of a suspension or being reported.I'm just defending myself from the unbelievable haters, I have no problem with the hating, but I should get to respond to them.
Sorry Just Cuz, you are misunderstanding, we are both speaking of Magic Man getting reported, which I just did. You have nothing to worry about.
 
Sorry to pile on, but I have to agree that Stafford can't be considered a sleeper. With your target audience here (Shark Pool), I'd wager that in 80% of cases, Stafford was drafted with the hopes of being the QB1 for their team. After last week's performance and with the defense he's facing, I can't imagine anyone not starting him against the Chiefs.That said, I agree on Dickson. I think he's a great value play this week if you are weak at TE, and he likely went undrafted in pretty much every league.
I agree that Stafford is probably more of an obvious starter at this point, but I'd disagree that he was typically drafted as a starter.
That is my point, and what I consider a sleeper at QB would be different at RB as you start fewer QBs so a sleeper can look a little better than normal at QB. Just my opinion, I mean we are all fantasy people, if you do not agree i think some can see where I am coming from...thats the only point I'm trying to make.I'll be sure to post more "DEEP" sleepers at QB for those qwho are interested.On another note. Freeman was ranked higher than Stafford in more than a few rankings I've seen. I have a funny feeling if I said Freeman i would not be suffering so much hate. lol
 
Sorry to pile on, but I have to agree that Stafford can't be considered a sleeper. With your target audience here (Shark Pool), I'd wager that in 80% of cases, Stafford was drafted with the hopes of being the QB1 for their team. After last week's performance and with the defense he's facing, I can't imagine anyone not starting him against the Chiefs.That said, I agree on Dickson. I think he's a great value play this week if you are weak at TE, and he likely went undrafted in pretty much every league.
I agree that Stafford is probably more of an obvious starter at this point, but I'd disagree that he was typically drafted as a starter.
Well, I guess that depends on how we're defining "drafted as a starter." We all have those late round guys that we pick up with the hope that they explode this year. Most of those drafting Stafford had that in mind when they drafted him. In my opinion, I'd call that drafting Stafford "with the hopes of being [your] QB1." But again, that's just my opinion.
 
'MIMN said:
Keep it up Just Cuz. Anyone willing to go out on a limb on a weekly basis is worth it. If it all goes to pot by week 4 you can post each week just...(I can't do it)...for a laugh.

I drafted Stafford as my #1 QB. 10th QB off the board. He is a sleeper to finish top 5 overall for the year, just not this week.
How is calling Stafford a sleeper going out on a limb?America gets dumber by the minute...
OK...so in the Stafford thread you are saying you are starting Romo over Stafford. Link to your comment >>> http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=611512

So if he is not a starter on your team, or got him as a back up to Romo in the draft...how is he not a sleeper?

I want an answer to this, its obvious you are just talking out of your....

One thing you are right about....the bolded.
Just b/c I drafted him 1 round later does not make him a sleeper. It's dynasty so I wanted 2 solid QBs.No one had Stafford as a sleeper. You need to revisit the definition of sleeper.

/thread
I think he was likely drafted as a sleeper to out produce his ADP in most cases... Not a deep or late round sleeper, but a sleeper none the less...What a ridiculous tangent this thread is off on.. Who cares whether he's by definition a sleeper this week.. Why can't everyone just discuss the possibilities for the players in the discussion like the thread was intended..

Troll-ville today...

 
Love the iStalking in the Stafford thread . That wouldn't fly in the FFA

Don't see how Stafford is a sleeeper . Maybe in a 6 team league

good call on Cddy & Dickson . I've been burnt on JJ before. He has an opportunity now and better seize it

 
How am I the one w/the issue when people started attacking me labeling me a troll for no good reason?Yes, I replied to that post of yours.
How dense are you? This is why people call you a troll and it's deserved -
'Magic_Man said:
This guy is all schtick & he types like a 14 YeAr OlD gIrL. :thumbdown:
How is calling Stafford a sleeper going out on a limb?America gets dumber by the minute...
If you can't see how this is being a troll then you really need a vacation to reflect upon yourself. And I did report you if you get a vacation and want to brood on who reported you.
 
Absolutely Laughing my #### off at GROWN MEN threatening, or actually reporting members to mods for suspension.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

You cannot be serious. Pieces fall together.

95% never had the balls to play a sport.

 
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Sorry to pile on, but I have to agree that Stafford can't be considered a sleeper. With your target audience here (Shark Pool), I'd wager that in 80% of cases, Stafford was drafted with the hopes of being the QB1 for their team. After last week's performance and with the defense he's facing, I can't imagine anyone not starting him against the Chiefs.That said, I agree on Dickson. I think he's a great value play this week if you are weak at TE, and he likely went undrafted in pretty much every league.
I agree that Stafford is probably more of an obvious starter at this point, but I'd disagree that he was typically drafted as a starter.
Well, I guess that depends on how we're defining "drafted as a starter." We all have those late round guys that we pick up with the hope that they explode this year. Most of those drafting Stafford had that in mind when they drafted him. In my opinion, I'd call that drafting Stafford "with the hopes of being [your] QB1." But again, that's just my opinion.
Well, I think we draft most players hoping they can become a starter. But in many cases, you draft a player as the #2 or back up in case it doesn't work out that way..Stafford was more likely drafted as a 2nd QB then a 1st...The point is, he's likely going to light it up against KC and seems like Just Cuz is the first to bring that to the boards this week.
 
How am I the one w/the issue when people started attacking me labeling me a troll for no good reason?Yes, I replied to that post of yours.
How dense are you? This is why people call you a troll and it's deserved -
'Magic_Man said:
This guy is all schtick & he types like a 14 YeAr OlD gIrL. :thumbdown:
How is calling Stafford a sleeper going out on a limb?America gets dumber by the minute...
If you can't see how this is being a troll then you really need a vacation to reflect upon yourself. And I did report you if you get a vacation and want to brood on who reported you.
Seems like MM is being harassed here. Only trolling I'd say is the 14yo comment but that goes to the font ScHtIcK
 
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How am I the one w/the issue when people started attacking me labeling me a troll for no good reason?Yes, I replied to that post of yours.
How dense are you? This is why people call you a troll and it's deserved -
'Magic_Man said:
This guy is all schtick & he types like a 14 YeAr OlD gIrL. :thumbdown:
How is calling Stafford a sleeper going out on a limb?America gets dumber by the minute...
If you can't see how this is being a troll then you really need a vacation to reflect upon yourself. And I did report you if you get a vacation and want to brood on who reported you.
Seems like MM is being harassed here. Only trolling I'd say is the 14yo comment but that goes to the font ScHtIcK
I thought the list was pretty good. although Stafford isn't a sleeper. While he was my 2nd QB drafted, the idea was to ride him until injury as a starter.As far as all the trolling, it is what it is. JuSt CuZ jumps around from thread to thread making hostile comments so obviously, once he starts a thread it's a perfect opportunity for people to come in & hit him right back. Like Joe says, "Be Excellent to One Another." and most off the thread crapping would stop.
 
How am I the one w/the issue when people started attacking me labeling me a troll for no good reason?Yes, I replied to that post of yours.
How dense are you? This is why people call you a troll and it's deserved -
'Magic_Man said:
This guy is all schtick & he types like a 14 YeAr OlD gIrL. :thumbdown:
How is calling Stafford a sleeper going out on a limb?America gets dumber by the minute...
If you can't see how this is being a troll then you really need a vacation to reflect upon yourself. And I did report you if you get a vacation and want to brood on who reported you.
Seems like MM is being harassed here. Only trolling I'd say is the 14yo comment but that goes to the font ScHtIcK
I thought the list was pretty good. although Stafford isn't a sleeper. While he was my 2nd QB drafted, the idea was to ride him until injury as a starter.As far as all the trolling, it is what it is. JuSt CuZ jumps around from thread to thread making hostile comments so obviously, once he starts a thread it's a perfect opportunity for people to come in & hit him right back. Like Joe says, "Be Excellent to One Another." and most off the thread crapping would stop.
First off, I never think anyone should get suspended for anything unless they cross the line of evilness. If a person has an opinion, strong or not...it should not warrent a suspension. As far as I'm concerned with some of my opinions, I feel my opinions are strong and I do voice it a lot, but notice I am not a hypocrite. I welcome strong opinions, but lets keep them on base of topic...bashing me for my belief on stafford as a sleeper is not really knocking ones knowledge, just my opinion...and as a memeber of the media, I like to generate debate. but there is a such thing as beating a dead horse, true/
 
Sorry to pile on, but I have to agree that Stafford can't be considered a sleeper. With your target audience here (Shark Pool), I'd wager that in 80% of cases, Stafford was drafted with the hopes of being the QB1 for their team. After last week's performance and with the defense he's facing, I can't imagine anyone not starting him against the Chiefs.

That said, I agree on Dickson. I think he's a great value play this week if you are weak at TE, and he likely went undrafted in pretty much every league.
I agree that Stafford is probably more of an obvious starter at this point, but I'd disagree that he was typically drafted as a starter.
Well, I guess that depends on how we're defining "drafted as a starter." We all have those late round guys that we pick up with the hope that they explode this year. Most of those drafting Stafford had that in mind when they drafted him. In my opinion, I'd call that drafting Stafford "with the hopes of being [your] QB1." But again, that's just my opinion.
Well, I think we draft most players hoping they can become a starter. But in many cases, you draft a player as the #2 or back up in case it doesn't work out that way..

Stafford was more likely drafted as a 2nd QB then a 1st...

The point is, he's likely going to light it up against KC and seems like Just Cuz is the first to bring that to the boards this week.
Well, obviously. But I think its a bit disingenuous to act like Stafford was drafted with the same low expectations as someone like Jacoby Ford. From my own experience and the indications of most Stafford owners on these boards, they drafted Stafford to be their QB1, but took a safety net with him. How that worked out varies from person to person, but I'm sure that many people did, in fact, draft him as the QB2 after taking a "safer" pick at QB earlier in the draft. But I think with Stafford in particular, people took him with the expectation that, when healthy, he's their QB1. Not really sure that is needed to be "brought." Do we need to tell everyone to start their QB that put up 300 yards and 3 TDs last week, given Stafford's pedigree, offensive system, and general expectations?

 
Sorry to pile on, but I have to agree that Stafford can't be considered a sleeper. With your target audience here (Shark Pool), I'd wager that in 80% of cases, Stafford was drafted with the hopes of being the QB1 for their team. After last week's performance and with the defense he's facing, I can't imagine anyone not starting him against the Chiefs.

That said, I agree on Dickson. I think he's a great value play this week if you are weak at TE, and he likely went undrafted in pretty much every league.
I agree that Stafford is probably more of an obvious starter at this point, but I'd disagree that he was typically drafted as a starter.
Well, I guess that depends on how we're defining "drafted as a starter." We all have those late round guys that we pick up with the hope that they explode this year. Most of those drafting Stafford had that in mind when they drafted him. In my opinion, I'd call that drafting Stafford "with the hopes of being [your] QB1." But again, that's just my opinion.
Well, I think we draft most players hoping they can become a starter. But in many cases, you draft a player as the #2 or back up in case it doesn't work out that way..

Stafford was more likely drafted as a 2nd QB then a 1st...

The point is, he's likely going to light it up against KC and seems like Just Cuz is the first to bring that to the boards this week.
Well, obviously. But I think its a bit disingenuous to act like Stafford was drafted with the same low expectations as someone like Jacoby Ford. From my own experience and the indications of most Stafford owners on these boards, they drafted Stafford to be their QB1, but took a safety net with him. How that worked out varies from person to person, but I'm sure that many people did, in fact, draft him as the QB2 after taking a "safer" pick at QB earlier in the draft. But I think with Stafford in particular, people took him with the expectation that, when healthy, he's their QB1. Not really sure that is needed to be "brought." Do we need to tell everyone to start their QB that put up 300 yards and 3 TDs last week, given Stafford's pedigree, offensive system, and general expectations?
You would be surprised, lol.
 
Sorry to pile on, but I have to agree that Stafford can't be considered a sleeper. With your target audience here (Shark Pool), I'd wager that in 80% of cases, Stafford was drafted with the hopes of being the QB1 for their team. After last week's performance and with the defense he's facing, I can't imagine anyone not starting him against the Chiefs.

That said, I agree on Dickson. I think he's a great value play this week if you are weak at TE, and he likely went undrafted in pretty much every league.
I agree that Stafford is probably more of an obvious starter at this point, but I'd disagree that he was typically drafted as a starter.
Well, I guess that depends on how we're defining "drafted as a starter." We all have those late round guys that we pick up with the hope that they explode this year. Most of those drafting Stafford had that in mind when they drafted him. In my opinion, I'd call that drafting Stafford "with the hopes of being [your] QB1." But again, that's just my opinion.
Well, I think we draft most players hoping they can become a starter. But in many cases, you draft a player as the #2 or back up in case it doesn't work out that way..

Stafford was more likely drafted as a 2nd QB then a 1st...

The point is, he's likely going to light it up against KC and seems like Just Cuz is the first to bring that to the boards this week.
Well, obviously. But I think its a bit disingenuous to act like Stafford was drafted with the same low expectations as someone like Jacoby Ford. From my own experience and the indications of most Stafford owners on these boards, they drafted Stafford to be their QB1, but took a safety net with him. How that worked out varies from person to person, but I'm sure that many people did, in fact, draft him as the QB2 after taking a "safer" pick at QB earlier in the draft. But I think with Stafford in particular, people took him with the expectation that, when healthy, he's their QB1. Not really sure that is needed to be "brought." Do we need to tell everyone to start their QB that put up 300 yards and 3 TDs last week, given Stafford's pedigree, offensive system, and general expectations?
You would be surprised, lol.
Some people do like to think themselves out of success :D

 
Maybe you should name the thread "Just Cuz these are guys I like to have big weeks. You may or may not have drafted them to start but if you own them they should be in your lineup. Week 3 Edition".
lol, noted. But....Isnt that what a sleeper means?
We're nitpicking now, the point is you think these guys will perform, the rest is irrelevant. Now if you'd come out and said I expect Brady, Rice, Fitz and Gates to have a good week I'd understand the criticism a bit more.
 
Sorry to pile on, but I have to agree that Stafford can't be considered a sleeper. With your target audience here (Shark Pool), I'd wager that in 80% of cases, Stafford was drafted with the hopes of being the QB1 for their team. After last week's performance and with the defense he's facing, I can't imagine anyone not starting him against the Chiefs.

That said, I agree on Dickson. I think he's a great value play this week if you are weak at TE, and he likely went undrafted in pretty much every league.
I agree that Stafford is probably more of an obvious starter at this point, but I'd disagree that he was typically drafted as a starter.
Well, I guess that depends on how we're defining "drafted as a starter." We all have those late round guys that we pick up with the hope that they explode this year. Most of those drafting Stafford had that in mind when they drafted him. In my opinion, I'd call that drafting Stafford "with the hopes of being [your] QB1." But again, that's just my opinion.
Well, I think we draft most players hoping they can become a starter. But in many cases, you draft a player as the #2 or back up in case it doesn't work out that way..

Stafford was more likely drafted as a 2nd QB then a 1st...

The point is, he's likely going to light it up against KC and seems like Just Cuz is the first to bring that to the boards this week.
Well, obviously. But I think its a bit disingenuous to act like Stafford was drafted with the same low expectations as someone like Jacoby Ford. From my own experience and the indications of most Stafford owners on these boards, they drafted Stafford to be their QB1, but took a safety net with him. How that worked out varies from person to person, but I'm sure that many people did, in fact, draft him as the QB2 after taking a "safer" pick at QB earlier in the draft. But I think with Stafford in particular, people took him with the expectation that, when healthy, he's their QB1. Not really sure that is needed to be "brought." Do we need to tell everyone to start their QB that put up 300 yards and 3 TDs last week, given Stafford's pedigree, offensive system, and general expectations?
You would be surprised, lol.
Some people do like to think themselves out of success :D
:whistle:
 
How am I the one w/the issue when people started attacking me labeling me a troll for no good reason?

Yes, I replied to that post of yours.
How dense are you? This is why people call you a troll and it's deserved -
'Magic_Man said:
This guy is all schtick & he types like a 14 YeAr OlD gIrL. :thumbdown:
How is calling Stafford a sleeper going out on a limb?

America gets dumber by the minute...
If you can't see how this is being a troll then you really need a vacation to reflect upon yourself. And I did report you if you get a vacation and want to brood on who reported you.
Seems like MM is being harassed here. Only trolling I'd say is the 14yo comment but that goes to the font ScHtIcK
I thought the list was pretty good. although Stafford isn't a sleeper. While he was my 2nd QB drafted, the idea was to ride him until injury as a starter.As far as all the trolling, it is what it is. JuSt CuZ jumps around from thread to thread making hostile comments so obviously, once he starts a thread it's a perfect opportunity for people to come in & hit him right back. Like Joe says, "Be Excellent to One Another." and most off the thread crapping would stop.
I agree, but it doesn't make it right..

 
Sorry to pile on, but I have to agree that Stafford can't be considered a sleeper. With your target audience here (Shark Pool), I'd wager that in 80% of cases, Stafford was drafted with the hopes of being the QB1 for their team. After last week's performance and with the defense he's facing, I can't imagine anyone not starting him against the Chiefs.

That said, I agree on Dickson. I think he's a great value play this week if you are weak at TE, and he likely went undrafted in pretty much every league.
I agree that Stafford is probably more of an obvious starter at this point, but I'd disagree that he was typically drafted as a starter.
Well, I guess that depends on how we're defining "drafted as a starter." We all have those late round guys that we pick up with the hope that they explode this year. Most of those drafting Stafford had that in mind when they drafted him. In my opinion, I'd call that drafting Stafford "with the hopes of being [your] QB1." But again, that's just my opinion.
Well, I think we draft most players hoping they can become a starter. But in many cases, you draft a player as the #2 or back up in case it doesn't work out that way..

Stafford was more likely drafted as a 2nd QB then a 1st...

The point is, he's likely going to light it up against KC and seems like Just Cuz is the first to bring that to the boards this week.
Well, obviously. But I think its a bit disingenuous to act like Stafford was drafted with the same low expectations as someone like Jacoby Ford. From my own experience and the indications of most Stafford owners on these boards, they drafted Stafford to be their QB1, but took a safety net with him. How that worked out varies from person to person, but I'm sure that many people did, in fact, draft him as the QB2 after taking a "safer" pick at QB earlier in the draft. But I think with Stafford in particular, people took him with the expectation that, when healthy, he's their QB1. Not really sure that is needed to be "brought." Do we need to tell everyone to start their QB that put up 300 yards and 3 TDs last week, given Stafford's pedigree, offensive system, and general expectations?
Open forum right? Shouldn't one be able to bring whatever topic he so chooses? Within the rules of the forum of course..

 
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