Justin Blackmon Can't Put the Bottle Down! (1 Viewer)

[Hoosier16]

3 days of sobriety? Well done.Rotoworld.com

Justin Blackmon stated at a Wednesday press conference that he has given up drinking "for right now" following a second DUI arrest in a 20-month span.Blackmon denied that he has a drinking problem, even if the facts suggest otherwise. "We're obviously very disappointed in this incident," GM Gene Smith said. "This type of behavior is unacceptable." Smith indicated that any discipline for Blackmon would be a "league matter," and not come from the Jaguars.

For right now.

You expect him to say he'll never drink again?

He probably would have been better off not saying anything than saying "for right now".

 

[cstu]

this would be an awesome jerseyhttp://www.bigcatcountry.com/2012/6/4/3064111/the-new-justin-blackmon-jerseys-are-in

Blacklabel.

 

[Hoosier16]

I may be a little bias, since Blackmon is now on my idiots list. But, he didn't make any statements that made me change my opinion of him. Or, believe that he is truly sorry and really understands what he did wrong. I have no doubt that he knows he is in trouble and it could effect him, but I'm willing to bet there is a 63% chance that he has another off field problem in the next 18 months.I would have liked to hear him say - "I may have a problem understanding how my body reacts to alcohol. Due to the support of my team and coaches, I am fortunate to have the tools to help me understand if I have an alcohol abuse problem. At this point in my life, I dismiss my actions as being poor judgement, but with the help the NFL and the Jaguars organization, I can move forward in a positive way"Oh well, maybe next time.

I think that would have been worse. I'm pretty sure he would not have understood what you just wrote and nobody would have believed those words could have come from him.

 

[imagroid]

Bunch of squares in this thread.

 

[KCitons]

Bunch of squares in this thread.

Says the guy with a kitty avatar.

 

[imagroid]

it's a stock avatar...

now more on why that sappy, cliche statement you wrote, would change your opinion of him...???

 

[werdnoynek]

it's a stock avatar...now more on why that sappy, cliche statement you wrote, would change your opinion of him...???

 

[KCitons]

it's a stock avatar...now more on why that sappy, cliche statement you wrote, would change your opinion of him...???

it wouldn't. But the statement he did make just made him look even dumber. P.S. Maybe you should "butch" up your avatar. Maybe beer cans would be more manly.

 

[imagroid]

it's a stock avatar...now more on why that sappy, cliche statement you wrote, would change your opinion of him...???

it wouldn't. But the statement he did make just made him look even dumber. P.S. Maybe you should "butch" up your avatar. Maybe beer cans would be more manly.

I may have a problem with the use of cats as an avatar. Due to the support of Joe and David, I am fortunate to have the tools to help me understand if I have a kitty avatar abuse problem. At this point in my life, I dismiss my actions as being womanly, but with the help of FBG and super macho posters like you, I can move forward in a positive way.

 

[KCitons]

it's a stock avatar...now more on why that sappy, cliche statement you wrote, would change your opinion of him...???

it wouldn't. But the statement he did make just made him look even dumber. P.S. Maybe you should "butch" up your avatar. Maybe beer cans would be more manly.

I may have a problem with the use of cats as an avatar. Due to the support of Joe and David, I am fortunate to have the tools to help me understand if I have a kitty avatar abuse problem. At this point in my life, I dismiss my actions as being womanly, but with the help of FBG and super macho posters like you, I can move forward in a positive way.

OK then. That's all you needed to say. I'm now your biggest fan.and you're welcome.

 

[Faust]

Unfair to judge Blackmon's words 'right now'

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

Jacksonville Jaguars wide receiver Justin Blackmon apologized for his recent DUI on Wednesday. These sort of things are always unsatisfying, and the apologies almost always get criticized afterwards for how the apology went down.

In Blackmon's case, a lot of outlets jumped on the fact that Blackmon is only giving up drinking "right now."

"I'm done," he said. "Right now, I'm done with all that. . . . I can't promise you 10 years down the road that I'm going to be done. I just know that as of right now and what I can speak of. I'm looking forward to getting ready to play football and putting this in the past.

This has predictably caused a lot of phony hand-wringing. Is it now fully expected that athletes that drink and drive give up drinking entirely? I don't want Blackmon near an automobile and his behavior is unacceptable, but it seems like we would rather Blackmon lie than merely say that he doesn't know if he's going to drink in the distant future.

Of course he doesn't know. Blackmon's behavior, as coach Mike Mularkey pointed out, was disappointing because he had just been warned about.

"Two attorneys from town ... talked about not just alcohol but guns, speeding, all the things that if you don't do it right these are the consequences of your actions," Mularkey said. "That's what's frustrating. It was just presented that Friday morning and we had an incident over the weekend."

We hope Blackmon learned from the incident. We have no idea if he truly will change his behavior, but we aren't going to find out by parsing his words and playing armchair psychologist after a press conference. Blackmon said it best.

"Words are words," he said. "It's my actions that are going to have to show."

 

[werdnoynek]

Mort just said on NFL Live that it's "very unlikely" that blackmon will face a suspension.

Rotoworld link

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported on NFL Live Wednesday that Justin Blackmon is "very unlikely" to face a suspension from the league following his July 3 drunken-driving arrest.

Blackmon's case will only be reviewed under the NFL's personal conduct policy if he pleads guilty or is convicted. For now, he's only subject to the substance abuse program. "Very unlikely -- suspension -- because there's no extenuating circumstances in this instance," Mort said. "They could fine him half a game check, up to $50,000 maximum, but they can tack on a little more on that fine because they can take into consideration that prior DUI in college. ... Unlikely, I'd say, to be suspended, unless extenuating circumstances are found."

 

[CapnJB]

Mort just said on NFL Live that it's "very unlikely" that blackmon will face a suspension.

For right now.

 

[moderated]

I hate how everyone reports he had a prior DUI. It was resolved as an underage possession ticket, if he was 21 at the time it would have been nothing.

Blackmon has ONE DUI, these reporters need to get educated.

 

[KCitons]

I hate how everyone reports he had a prior DUI. It was resolved as an underage possession ticket, if he was 21 at the time it would have been nothing.Blackmon has ONE DUI, these reporters need to get educated.

True, he wasn't convicted of DUI, it was reduced to a lesser offense.But, by the same rule, Brandon Marshall has had a lot of brushes with the law, almost all of them were dropped or he was found not guilty. Still doesn't make him a stand up citizen.

 

[CapnJB]

I hate how everyone reports he had a prior DUI. It was resolved as an underage possession ticket, if he was 21 at the time it would have been nothing.Blackmon has ONE DUI, these reporters need to get educated.

Yeah... just underage drinking. No big deal. Everyone does it! Right?But you know what? Everyone does it but only a small percentage actually get arrested for it.You know who those folks are?The stupid ones.

 

[moderated]

I hate how everyone reports he had a prior DUI. It was resolved as an underage possession ticket, if he was 21 at the time it would have been nothing.Blackmon has ONE DUI, these reporters need to get educated.

True, he wasn't convicted of DUI, it was reduced to a lesser offense.But, by the same rule, Brandon Marshall has had a lot of brushes with the law, almost all of them were dropped or he was found not guilty. Still doesn't make him a stand up citizen.

The first DUI wasnt really ever a legit DUI. He was underage and told the cop he has a couple drinks, he was under the legal limit but due to being underage they still ticketed him for DUI.I don't think a 19 year old having a couple drinks is a bad thing at all, 99% of college kids have a few drinks, and that time he was responsible enough not to have too many.

 

[moderated]

I hate how everyone reports he had a prior DUI. It was resolved as an underage possession ticket, if he was 21 at the time it would have been nothing.Blackmon has ONE DUI, these reporters need to get educated.

Yeah... just underage drinking. No big deal. Everyone does it! Right?.

Underage drinking isn't a big deal, especially when he only had a couple when he was ticketed the first time. It shows he was responsible.This past one was inexcusable, but the prior was no big deal and it's a shame he even got ticketed. The underagers driving at over the legal limit are being irresponsible, not the ones at .02.

 

[CapnJB]

I don't think a 19 year old having a couple drinks is a bad thing at all, 99% of college kids have a few drinks, and that time he was responsible enough not to have too many.

Was he driving?

 

[moderated]

I don't think a 19 year old having a couple drinks is a bad thing at all, 99% of college kids have a few drinks, and that time he was responsible enough not to have too many.

Was he driving?

At under the legal limit, which isn't a crime if he was a year older. He was a responsible designated driver that night, unfortunately he ran into an over zealous cop.I actually commend him for his maturity at only having a couple drinks on his prior incident.

 

[CapnJB]

I don't think a 19 year old having a couple drinks is a bad thing at all, 99% of college kids have a few drinks, and that time he was responsible enough not to have too many.

Was he driving?

At under the legal limit, which isn't a crime if he was a year older. He was a responsible designated driver that night, unfortunately he ran into an over zealous cop.I actually commend him for his maturity at only having a couple drinks on his prior incident.

So you think it's ok for teenagers to drink and drive? Regardless of the legal limit? Fine.Do you support his .24 and driving a vehicle? I was in highschool in the late 80's and I've got three friends that never made it to 19 because of guys like this. Commend him for not killing anyone this time. You're a doosh.

 

[KCitons]

I don't think a 19 year old having a couple drinks is a bad thing at all, 99% of college kids have a few drinks, and that time he was responsible enough not to have too many.

Was he driving?

At under the legal limit, which isn't a crime if he was a year older. He was a responsible designated driver that night, unfortunately he ran into an over zealous cop.I actually commend him for his maturity at only having a couple drinks on his prior incident.

WOW. I think it's time to take a break from this thread. I don't understand how you can commend his actions as a designated driver. Although he didn't break one law by being old enough, he broke a different law by drinking under age.

What other laws should we just ignore and write off as a a by-product of college youth?

 

[moderated]

I don't think a 19 year old having a couple drinks is a bad thing at all, 99% of college kids have a few drinks, and that time he was responsible enough not to have too many.

Was he driving?

At under the legal limit, which isn't a crime if he was a year older. He was a responsible designated driver that night, unfortunately he ran into an over zealous cop.I actually commend him for his maturity at only having a couple drinks on his prior incident.

Do you support his .24 and driving a vehicle? .

Of course not, he was an idiot for drivin around at .24I only support the past incident where he was responsible enough to control himself enough at a big party by only having a couple drinks.

 

[Deamon]

I wouldn't say Blackmon drinks more then any other NFL player necessarily. He just drove while drunk.

I also wouldn't say Blackmon drives drunk more then any other NFL player, he just got caught.

Either way, he DID get caught, so he better adjust his lifestyle big time because of how he's being perceived. He's got a lot of growing up to do.

 

[Wadsworth]

I don't think a 19 year old having a couple drinks is a bad thing at all, 99% of college kids have a few drinks, and that time he was responsible enough not to have too many.

Was he driving?

At under the legal limit, which isn't a crime if he was a year older. He was a responsible designated driver that night, unfortunately he ran into an over zealous cop.I actually commend him for his maturity at only having a couple drinks on his prior incident.

So doing 90 in a 60 after having "a couple" of drinks is responsible?

 

[Warrior]

I hate how everyone reports he had a prior DUI. It was resolved as an underage possession ticket, if he was 21 at the time it would have been nothing.

Blackmon has ONE DUI, these reporters need to get educated.

Yeah... just underage drinking. No big deal. Everyone does it! Right?.

Underage drinking isn't a big deal, especially when he only had a couple when he was ticketed the first time. It shows he was responsible.This past one was inexcusable, but the prior was no big deal and it's a shame he even got ticketed. The underagers driving at over the legal limit are being irresponsible, not the ones at .02.

clearly if not...

 

[DoubleG]

I hate how everyone reports he had a prior DUI. It was resolved as an underage possession ticket, if he was 21 at the time it would have been nothing.

Blackmon has ONE DUI, these reporters need to get educated.

Yeah... just underage drinking. No big deal. Everyone does it! Right?.

Underage drinking isn't a big deal, especially when he only had a couple when he was ticketed the first time. It shows he was responsible.This past one was inexcusable, but the prior was no big deal and it's a shame he even got ticketed. The underagers driving at over the legal limit are being irresponsible, not the ones at .02.

clearly if not...

Actually, if it's not a fishing trip, than CapnJB got it right in the final 3 words of post 274 above."FBGs in the SP - defending reprehensible behavior and not counting 'that one big play' since 2003."

 

[zDragon]

I don't think a 19 year old having a couple drinks is a bad thing at all, 99% of college kids have a few drinks, and that time he was responsible enough not to have too many.

Was he driving?

At under the legal limit, which isn't a crime if he was a year older. He was a responsible designated driver that night, unfortunately he ran into an over zealous cop.I actually commend him for his maturity at only having a couple drinks on his prior incident.

Nothing responsible about being the designated driver and drinking.

 

[Whoosah]

All I know is I drafted him before this situation and now I am considering changing my team name to Johnnie Walker BLACKmon

 

[CapnJB]

I actually commend him for his maturity at only having a couple drinks on his prior incident.

The sophomore wide receiver, who does not turn 21 until January, and three friends were returning to Oklahoma after having attended the Dallas Cowboys’ game Monday night in Arlington.

As Blackmon drove a Chevy Silverado pickup north on I-35, police radar determined his speed as having been 92 mph in a 60 mph zone.

“There were field sobriety tests given on the side of the road,” said Dustin Bartram, the public information officer for the Carrollton Police Department. “The officer determined that there was a detectable amount (of alcohol) on (Blackmon).”

I actually commend him for his maturity at only having a couple drinks on his prior incident.

Just so we're clear... you applaud this. You condone this. And you commend this. I'm not going to turn this into a 'woe is me' post, but 23 years ago I saw what happens when a very real Oldsmobile runs a red light at 80 miles an hour and t-bones a VW bus full of kids. There is nothing to commend. In fact.. there is very little left. Except for the families who lose everything.

If I had one wish, it would be to be the doctor that gets to tell you that you have ball cancer. Cheers.

 

[moderated]

I actually commend him for his maturity at only having a couple drinks on his prior incident.

The sophomore wide receiver, who does not turn 21 until January, and three friends were returning to Oklahoma after having attended the Dallas Cowboys’ game Monday night in Arlington.

As Blackmon drove a Chevy Silverado pickup north on I-35, police radar determined his speed as having been 92 mph in a 60 mph zone.

“There were field sobriety tests given on the side of the road,” said Dustin Bartram, the public information officer for the Carrollton Police Department. “The officer determined that there was a detectable amount (of alcohol) on (Blackmon).”

I actually commend him for his maturity at only having a couple drinks on his prior incident.

Just so we're clear... you applaud this. You condone this. And you commend this. I'm not going to turn this into a 'woe is me' post, but 23 years ago I saw what happens when a very real Oldsmobile runs a red light at 80 miles an hour and t-bones a VW bus full of kids. There is nothing to commend. In fact.. there is very little left. Except for the families who lose everything.

If I had one wish, it would be to be the doctor that gets to tell you that you have ball cancer.Cheers.

Stay classy.

 

[CapnJB]

Stay classy.

I've been called worse by better. Get that check up.

 

[werdnoynek]

as an auto claim adjuster in the insurance industry, i deal with accidents every day. they're called accidents for a reason... to the people saying he could have killed someone: so could the girl texting while driving, or the 85 year old man who didn't see that the light had changed, or the completely sober guy with a perfect driving record who spilled his coffee and was distracted. to those of you who have lost friends/loved ones to drunk drivers or any accidents for that matter, i'm sorry for your losses... but i'm not sure what blackmon getting a dui has to do with that. while drinking then driving certainly increases the risk of an accident, so does doing multitudes of other things. so instead of saying "oh, he could have killed someone...", how about we just be thankful he didn't and move on. you could have killed someone driving to work today too, i don't berate you for it.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

as an auto claim adjuster in the insurance industry, i deal with accidents every day. they're called accidents for a reason... to the people saying he could have killed someone: so could the girl texting while driving, or the 85 year old man who didn't see that the light had changed, or the completely sober guy with a perfect driving record who spilled his coffee and was distracted. to those of you who have lost friends/loved ones to drunk drivers or any accidents for that matter, i'm sorry for your losses... but i'm not sure what blackmon getting a dui has to do with that. while drinking then driving certainly increases the risk of an accident, so does doing multitudes of other things. so instead of saying "oh, he could have killed someone...", how about we just be thankful he didn't and move on. you could have killed someone driving to work today too, i don't berate you for it.

classic shark pool..24 dui equates to spilling coffee or driving to work!btw, I think if you plow into somebody and blow a .24 it isn't called an accident -- it might be called manslaughter, or second degree murder.

 

[werdnoynek]

as an auto claim adjuster in the insurance industry, i deal with accidents every day. they're called accidents for a reason... to the people saying he could have killed someone: so could the girl texting while driving, or the 85 year old man who didn't see that the light had changed, or the completely sober guy with a perfect driving record who spilled his coffee and was distracted. to those of you who have lost friends/loved ones to drunk drivers or any accidents for that matter, i'm sorry for your losses... but i'm not sure what blackmon getting a dui has to do with that. while drinking then driving certainly increases the risk of an accident, so does doing multitudes of other things. so instead of saying "oh, he could have killed someone...", how about we just be thankful he didn't and move on. you could have killed someone driving to work today too, i don't berate you for it.

classic shark pool..24 dui equates to spilling coffee or driving to work!btw, I think if you plow into somebody and blow a .24 it isn't called an accident -- it might be called manslaughter, or second degree murder.

you're right, but it didn't happen. so why do we keep bringing it up?

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

well, my guess is we keep bringing it up because there's somewhat more of a causality relationship between killing someone and blowing .24 than driving to work or drinking coffee.

that's just my guess.

when driving to work is punishable by losing your license and a felony charge you might have a good point.

 

[werdnoynek]

well, my guess is we keep bringing it up because there's somewhat more of a causality relationship between killing someone and blowing .24 than driving to work or drinking coffee.

that's just my guess.

when driving to work is punishable by losing your license and a felony charge you might have a good point.

to reiterate what i said vs what i meant, i think talking about what could have happened is pretty pointless here. a lot of things could have happened. he could have gotten home wasted and we wouldn't be here talking about this. i just think we should move on from this hypothetical talk and discuss something a bit more productive. i apologize for confusing you into thinking i'm comparing drunk driving and drinking coffee or driving to work... i could have perhaps worded it differently, but i think it just goes to show how pointless all this could have talk really is. again, lets be thankful he didn't kill anyone and move on.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

you do realize you get arrested for dui because of what could have happened, right?

I doubt telling the officer that pulls you over that you didn't kill anybody yet gets you much leniency.

edit: btw, I agree with you.

he got arrested for blowing a .24 and driving -- let's stick to talking about what actually happened.

 

[werdnoynek]

you do realize you get arrested for dui because of what could have happened, right?

I doubt telling the officer that pulls you over that you didn't kill anybody yet gets you much leniency.

edit: btw, I agree with you.

he got arrested for blowing a .24 and driving -- let's stick to talking about what actually happened.

i do. i'm glad (& hope) we can move on.

 

[KCitons]

The thing that I keep thinking about is how this situation would play out if it was any one of us? If I had two alcohol related driving offenses in two years, I would hope my job and the judge would treat me the way Blackmon is being treated. I understand, things are more magnified because he's an NFL player. But,there are no message boards to discuss every Joe Schmo that gets arrested for DUI.

I know someone that had a second offense DUI in about a 4-5 year span. He lost his license for a year, and his job as a Postal Carrier. I think all too often, athletes or celebrities are hardly effected when something like this happens to them. (I know Blackmon will take a financial hit since he wasn't under contract)

If you applied Blackmon's circumstances to a normal middle class worker, it would turn their lives upside down (as it should) This is why I am all for Goodell hitting him with a stiff penalty. (But that doesn't appear likely)

So, what is really going to happen to Blackmon? What makes anyone think he has learned anything and won't repeat these actions?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

as an auto claim adjuster in the insurance industry, i deal with accidents every day. they're called accidents for a reason... to the people saying he could have killed someone: so could the girl texting while driving, or the 85 year old man who didn't see that the light had changed, or the completely sober guy with a perfect driving record who spilled his coffee and was distracted. to those of you who have lost friends/loved ones to drunk drivers or any accidents for that matter, i'm sorry for your losses... but i'm not sure what blackmon getting a dui has to do with that. while drinking then driving certainly increases the risk of an accident, so does doing multitudes of other things. so instead of saying "oh, he could have killed someone...", how about we just be thankful he didn't and move on. you could have killed someone driving to work today too, i don't berate you for it.

classic shark pool..24 dui equates to spilling coffee or driving to work!btw, I think if you plow into somebody and blow a .24 it isn't called an accident -- it might be called manslaughter, or second degree murder.

Or it could just be George Zimmerman making sure that jaywalker isnt causing any problems on his watch.

 

[Faust]

Dez Bryant can't believe ex-teammate Blackmon in trouble

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

Dez Bryant can't quite believe that his former Oklahoma State teammate Justin Blackmon got in trouble so soon after joining the league.

"He's a great guy," Bryant recently told FoxSportsSouthwest.com. "If you knew him, you'd be like, 'I can't believe it.' It's just a lesson that he's going to have to learn. I feel like he's going to get through it.

"I know he is, just because of the type of guy he is. I wish the best for him, and I know he's going to come through and bounce back and do what he needs to do."

Bryant admitted that he has been too busy with OTAs to reach out to Blackmon, but he can certainly identify with a player getting negative attention during his early days as a pro. Bryant doesn't have a criminal record, but he is still visibly trying to mature.

"Some guys make the right decisions, some guys make the wrong ones," Bryant said. "When you make a wrong decision it's your choice if you want to learn from it or not."

Bryant and Blackmon have often been compared as players because they both went to the same school. We think Bryant is easily more talented. Hall of Fame quarterback Warren Moon viewed the two players differently in a radio interview back in January.

"He's like Dez Bryant with all of his brain cells," Moon said of Blackmon. "He's a guy that has all those skills that Dez Bryant has, but he's not the knucklehead that Dez Bryant has turned out to be with Dallas."

Those are harsh words. Blackmon has arguably already proven Moon wrong. It's on Bryant to prove Moon wrong, too.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Dez Bryant can't believe ex-teammate Blackmon in trouble

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

Dez Bryant can't quite believe that his former Oklahoma State teammate Justin Blackmon got in trouble so soon after joining the league.

"He's a great guy," Bryant recently told FoxSportsSouthwest.com. "If you knew him, you'd be like, 'I can't believe it.' It's just a lesson that he's going to have to learn. I feel like he's going to get through it.

"I know he is, just because of the type of guy he is. I wish the best for him, and I know he's going to come through and bounce back and do what he needs to do."

Bryant admitted that he has been too busy with OTAs to reach out to Blackmon, but he can certainly identify with a player getting negative attention during his early days as a pro. Bryant doesn't have a criminal record, but he is still visibly trying to mature.

"Some guys make the right decisions, some guys make the wrong ones," Bryant said. "When you make a wrong decision it's your choice if you want to learn from it or not."

Bryant and Blackmon have often been compared as players because they both went to the same school. We think Bryant is easily more talented. Hall of Fame quarterback Warren Moon viewed the two players differently in a radio interview back in January.

"He's like Dez Bryant with all of his brain cells," Moon said of Blackmon. "He's a guy that has all those skills that Dez Bryant has, but he's not the knucklehead that Dez Bryant has turned out to be with Dallas."

Those are harsh words. Blackmon has arguably already proven Moon wrong. It's on Bryant to prove Moon wrong, too.

o.m.g.

 

[fatness]

I was in highschool in the late 80's and I've got three friends that never made it to 19 because of guys like this. Commend him for not killing anyone this time. You're a doosh.

Surely there has to be a better way to honor your friends than to trot them out and use them in an online argument.

 

[moderated]

I was in highschool in the late 80's and I've got three friends that never made it to 19 because of guys like this. Commend him for not killing anyone this time. You're a doosh.

Surely there has to be a better way to honor your friends than to trot them out and use them in an online argument.

The guy wished me cancer, I doubt he has many friends.

 

[Sabertooth]

I hope he slides to me at 1.9.

 

[Donnybrook]

Blackmon arrest video: http://www.firstcoas...UI-arrest-video

He doesn't seem that drunk to me. I have to wonder how accurate the police breathalyzer is.

 

[lbouchard]

Blackmon arrest video: http://www.firstcoas...UI-arrest-video

He doesn't seem that drunk to me. I have to wonder how accurate the police breathalyzer is.

But when you can blow a .24 and still start up a car and drive reasonably well, it says something. Body is probably used to heavy amounts of alcohol to an extent

 

[Slapdash]

Ugh. Someone shut this thread down. Terrible.

 

[DoubleG]

Ugh. Someone shut this thread down. Terrible.

It's gone from terrible to terribler.