Justin Blackmon Can't Put the Bottle Down! (1 Viewer)

[cstu]

In my eyes Gordon and Blackmon are equal talents and both are one strike away. Because of Blackmons current suspension he is treated like the plague, but with Gordon after having a season he will never have again, is given the #3 overall spot. Same upside in production value and Blackmon could be had for wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy cheaper. If he wasn't suspended currently he would still be treated like the plague and Gordon would still be #3. Its fantasy football not real life, taking a flyer on a guy with talent like that is a no brainer at his current price.

It's funny, if Blackmon stays on the wagon and Gordon gets busted their values will flip.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Just to add one last thing. I don't like comparing Blackmon to guys like Rogers. They are out of the league because they couldn't function the football field with their off-field problems. Blackmon has played very well when he's played. His problem is the new standards. In previous years, I'm sure there are tons of guys who played well and had just as bad a problems as Blackmon has. No doubt the risk of getting suspended again is very real. But I also know he can play, even when he was supposedly wasted all the time.

For me, I bought at a discount. If he flames out of the league, I'm fine with that. It's a calculated gamble. I traded for McCoy after his concussion knowing there was a decent chance the guy might have problems and turn into Javon Best. But I thought the reward was worth the risk. What I see here is people giving an 80% discount because they are scared, not because it's a smart move.

His talent and production (in the limited time) put him on par with the elites. If there was no issues we would be talking about him at the top of the WR rankings. Then again Josh Gordon is there and he also has off the field issues. He is one thread away from being gone a year himself.

Totally agree here, but IMO people are wildly under-estimating the risk with Gordon as opposed to over-estimating it with Blackmon. I want no part of Josh Gordon at his current high 1st round startup pricetag.

Bloom and Parsons have him at #3 overall.

That's not out of line with other sites or mocks / startups at all, but no thanks IMO. I see the other top shelf young WRs as far more attractive -- equally talented, more proven, less risky.

Seems strange anyone would take a guy who is one mistake from a year off instead of young guys like Dez, Julio and DT.

Yeah. I think people are looking at it from a personal / emoitional / logical standpoint as opposed to basing things on league policy. Having a legal drink or smoking some weed is nowhere near say, wife beating, on any reasonable person's moral scale of "bad stuff people do." But current league policy on the two issues is out of whack with those beliefs. Having a beer is no big deal, as long as you don't get behind the wheel, unless you're in stage three of the NFL's substance abuse program, in which case it's worse than raping or beating women. Those priorites make zero sense to me, but I'll certainly adjust my FF valuation system to reflect them.

In my eyes Gordon and Blackmon are equal talents and both are one strike away. Because of Blackmons current suspension he is treated like the plague, but with Gordon after having a season he will never have again, is given the #3 overall spot. Same upside in production value and Blackmon could be had for wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy cheaper. If he wasn't suspended currently he would still be treated like the plague and Gordon would still be #3. Its fantasy football not real life, taking a flyer on a guy with talent like that is a no brainer at his current price.

I'm not jumping on either one right now, personally. Blackmon is still going in the 4th round on average in startup mocks. It's not totally unreasonable, IMO, like Gordon in the top 5 overall is, but that's no huge bargain either. I'm pretty anti-risk when we're talking that kind of pricetag, though, so YMMV.

 

[False Start]

In my eyes Gordon and Blackmon are equal talents and both are one strike away. Because of Blackmons current suspension he is treated like the plague, but with Gordon after having a season he will never have again, is given the #3 overall spot. Same upside in production value and Blackmon could be had for wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy cheaper. If he wasn't suspended currently he would still be treated like the plague and Gordon would still be #3. Its fantasy football not real life, taking a flyer on a guy with talent like that is a no brainer at his current price.

It's funny, if Blackmon stays on the wagon and Gordon gets busted their values will flip.

This is true. If Blackmon has half the pace he had in last years 4 games he would be Top 5 no doubt and stays off the sauce and Gordon gets pulled over leaving a bar one night. The fantasy world would go crazy.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

In my eyes Gordon and Blackmon are equal talents and both are one strike away. Because of Blackmons current suspension he is treated like the plague, but with Gordon after having a season he will never have again, is given the #3 overall spot. Same upside in production value and Blackmon could be had for wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy cheaper. If he wasn't suspended currently he would still be treated like the plague and Gordon would still be #3. Its fantasy football not real life, taking a flyer on a guy with talent like that is a no brainer at his current price.

It's funny, if Blackmon stays on the wagon and Gordon gets busted their values will flip.

one has showed the ability to stay clean once they got to the pros and one hasn't.

 

[False Start]

In my eyes Gordon and Blackmon are equal talents and both are one strike away. Because of Blackmons current suspension he is treated like the plague, but with Gordon after having a season he will never have again, is given the #3 overall spot. Same upside in production value and Blackmon could be had for wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy cheaper. If he wasn't suspended currently he would still be treated like the plague and Gordon would still be #3. Its fantasy football not real life, taking a flyer on a guy with talent like that is a no brainer at his current price.

It's funny, if Blackmon stays on the wagon and Gordon gets busted their values will flip.

one has showed the ability to stay clean once they got to the pros and one hasn't.

While that is true, maybe Blackmon has changed his support system now that it reached red levels. He get's one more chance with me from a fantasy standpoint because of talent alone.

 

[msommer]

Never had any DUI. Not when I was 24. Not ever. I had a job and no, they did not test for alcohol. If they had, I would have partied less.

I knew the police tested for alcohol, and consequently I took a taxi home when I was sloshed.

My work place did not have the right in the contract to suspend me without pay if I drank alcohol or smoked weed outside of working hours.

If they had, I would have partied less.

My work did not pay me millions. If it had I would probably have been behaving much more maturely in connection with partying after hours.

Now Blackmon's workplace does have those rules and they have exercised them not once, not twice, but three times.

Blackmon has not shown the mental ability to learn in this sequence of events, but keeps repeating the same mistake.

That's unbelievably stupid.

And tht's why I don't think he'll play in the NFL again

Too many mistakes over alcohol to chalk it up to mere stupidity - the most obvious conclusion is that he is an alcoholic that can't conrol himself. He was sent to rehab immediately after his last suspension so maybe he's getting the help he needs to deal with it.

As far as him playing again, if he stays clean until he applies for reinstatement he will play again. He's already stayed clean for 3 months and has 6 months to go before the season starts.

Since false start argued so vehemently against him being an alcoholic, I took this tack to show it did not matter what the reason was for him not being able to stay off the sauce...

 

[msommer]

Never had any DUI. Not when I was 24. Not ever. I had a job and no, they did not test for alcohol. If they had, I would have partied less.

I knew the police tested for alcohol, and consequently I took a taxi home when I was sloshed.

My work place did not have the right in the contract to suspend me without pay if I drank alcohol or smoked weed outside of working hours.

If they had, I would have partied less.

My work did not pay me millions. If it had I would probably have been behaving much more maturely in connection with partying after hours.

Now Blackmon's workplace does have those rules and they have exercised them not once, not twice, but three times.

Blackmon has not shown the mental ability to learn in this sequence of events, but keeps repeating the same mistake.

That's unbelievably stupid.

And tht's why I don't think he'll play in the NFL again

Too many mistakes over alcohol to chalk it up to mere stupidity - the most obvious conclusion is that he is an alcoholic that can't conrol himself. He was sent to rehab immediately after his last suspension so maybe he's getting the help he needs to deal with it.

As far as him playing again, if he stays clean until he applies for reinstatement he will play again. He's already stayed clean for 3 months and has 6 months to go before the season starts.

Since false start argued so vehemently against him being an alcoholic, I took this tack to show it did not matter what the reason was for him not being able to stay off the sauce...

 

[Truman]

In my eyes Gordon and Blackmon are equal talents and both are one strike away. Because of Blackmons current suspension he is treated like the plague, but with Gordon after having a season he will never have again, is given the #3 overall spot. Same upside in production value and Blackmon could be had for wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy cheaper. If he wasn't suspended currently he would still be treated like the plague and Gordon would still be #3. Its fantasy football not real life, taking a flyer on a guy with talent like that is a no brainer at his current price.

It's funny, if Blackmon stays on the wagon and Gordon gets busted their values will flip.

one has showed the ability to stay clean once they got to the pros and one hasn't.

Well, no. Gordon is in the same position Blackmon was at the start of last season. He faces a years suspension because he is on his third chance

 

[ghostguy123]

So Gordon will NEVER have a repeat of the season he just had as a 2nd year player, playing 14 games, with jack squat at QB. Alrighty.

I mean, sure, he MIGHT not. AJ Green might have already had his career year also. And Julio, and any other player.

I also don't really compare Gordon to Blackmon in the sense that Gordon strikes me as a much brighter individual. I am not talking about their mistakes and poor decisions, but just in general, Gordon appears much smarter than Blackmon, and quite possibly gives him the ability to screw up less often than Blackmon will.

That said, I think Blackmon can definitely stay clean, and I think all it takes for him it so be on the field and he will produce well.

 

[False Start]

So Gordon will NEVER have a repeat of the season he just had as a 2nd year player, playing 14 games, with jack squat at QB. Alrighty.

I mean, sure, he MIGHT not. AJ Green might have already had his career year also. And Julio, and any other player.

I also don't really compare Gordon to Blackmon in the sense that Gordon strikes me as a much brighter individual. I am not talking about their mistakes and poor decisions, but just in general, Gordon appears much smarter than Blackmon, and quite possibly gives him the ability to screw up less often than Blackmon will.

That said, I think Blackmon can definitely stay clean, and I think all it takes for him it so be on the field and he will produce well.

If I recall his season was highly impacted by the two games is a row where he totalled 24 catches for 498 and 3 TDs. Those two games accounted for almost 1/3 of his fantasy points. Are you suggesting that will be the norm for him? Those 93 targets will be the norm in the final 7 games too? My reasons other than the bloated stats, he will not have Turner and Chuds offense. Also, while I am not a fan of Campbell, his ability to throw the ball up to Gordon and the fact he only looked at Gordon was pretty helpful. Look at Camerons stats the second half of the season. They involved no one but Gordon, how long you think that lasts against other defenses with a years worth of tape. There are smart coaches out there who game plan.

I like Gordon, but NO, he will never have 300 fantasy points in a season again.

 

[ghostguy123]

So Gordon will NEVER have a repeat of the season he just had as a 2nd year player, playing 14 games, with jack squat at QB. Alrighty.

I mean, sure, he MIGHT not. AJ Green might have already had his career year also. And Julio, and any other player.

I also don't really compare Gordon to Blackmon in the sense that Gordon strikes me as a much brighter individual. I am not talking about their mistakes and poor decisions, but just in general, Gordon appears much smarter than Blackmon, and quite possibly gives him the ability to screw up less often than Blackmon will.

That said, I think Blackmon can definitely stay clean, and I think all it takes for him it so be on the field and he will produce well.

If I recall his season was highly impacted by the two games is a row where he totalled 24 catches for 498 and 3 TDs. Those two games accounted for almost 1/3 of his fantasy points. Are you suggesting that will be the norm for him? Those 93 targets will be the norm in the final 7 games too? My reasons other than the bloated stats, he will not have Turner and Chuds offense. Also, while I am not a fan of Campbell, his ability to throw the ball up to Gordon and the fact he only looked at Gordon was pretty helpful. Look at Camerons stats the second half of the season. They involved no one but Gordon, how long you think that lasts against other defenses with a years worth of tape. There are smart coaches out there who game plan.

I like Gordon, but NO, he will never have 300 fantasy points in a season again.

Still forgetting those two games in a row where he didn't play?

Like I said, he might never score 300 in a season again. Although, I think the chances are higher of him doing it a couple more times than never doing it again.

ALso, pretty sure teams gameplanned for him. Only other WRs were LIttle and Bess. Cmon.

I would say his season was MOSTLY impacted by his talent.

 

[False Start]

So Gordon will NEVER have a repeat of the season he just had as a 2nd year player, playing 14 games, with jack squat at QB. Alrighty.

I mean, sure, he MIGHT not. AJ Green might have already had his career year also. And Julio, and any other player.

I also don't really compare Gordon to Blackmon in the sense that Gordon strikes me as a much brighter individual. I am not talking about their mistakes and poor decisions, but just in general, Gordon appears much smarter than Blackmon, and quite possibly gives him the ability to screw up less often than Blackmon will.

That said, I think Blackmon can definitely stay clean, and I think all it takes for him it so be on the field and he will produce well.

If I recall his season was highly impacted by the two games is a row where he totalled 24 catches for 498 and 3 TDs. Those two games accounted for almost 1/3 of his fantasy points. Are you suggesting that will be the norm for him? Those 93 targets will be the norm in the final 7 games too? My reasons other than the bloated stats, he will not have Turner and Chuds offense. Also, while I am not a fan of Campbell, his ability to throw the ball up to Gordon and the fact he only looked at Gordon was pretty helpful. Look at Camerons stats the second half of the season. They involved no one but Gordon, how long you think that lasts against other defenses with a years worth of tape. There are smart coaches out there who game plan.

I like Gordon, but NO, he will never have 300 fantasy points in a season again.

Still forgetting those two games in a row where he didn't play?

Like I said, he might never score 300 in a season again. Although, I think the chances are higher of him doing it a couple more times than never doing it again.

ALso, pretty sure teams gameplanned for him. Only other WRs were LIttle and Bess. Cmon.

I would say his season was MOSTLY impacted by his talent.

Yes, he missed two games, does that mean he will have this type season every year? Does that mean he will get 93 Targets over the final 7 games every year? Does that mean he will catch 24 for 500 over two game stretches every year?

The kid has talent, where did I say he didnt? I love how some read the parts they want in posts and miss the points. Since you don't read my points anyways. It was all mostly his talent that got him those numbers, not the coaching, not the number of targets, not the offense, nothing impacted his stats but his talent. Talent is the only factor into producing points. I am understanding this game of football better. Why did that same player with that same exact talent not do it the year before? Even though he was a rookie, his talent is still there. Why not the same exact stats? Thats right, because mostly talent is NOT the only thing that matters.

Edelman never had 100 catches but it was all his talent that did that for him this year, not the scheme coaching or play calling, right?

 

[False Start]

This is not a Gordon thread, but since it came up in discussion of the two being compared.

Gordon is a highly talented WR. He has the chance to be a great WR with the right surroundings. Now he may get traded one day, but who knows, but here are some factors that could inhibit Gordon this season and the next few.

1. New coaching: This will not be the offensive minded team that Chud and Turner had in mind. Pettine? Shannahan? Yuck. While Garcon caught 113 balls under Shanahan, how many deep routes did he run? How many TDs did he get? While Gordon will be used a lot, his routes may not get him the TDs we think he will get. I like his upside for more catches and underneath routes. We have seen this kid make plays from them before.

2. QB situation: Campbell was highly capable of throwing a good deep ball and only looked Gordons way. If you can look at 93 targets over the final 7 games and not think that was a huge factor in production. Lets just change the topic of conversation right now. Those are crazy numbers. The guy played two less games than Calvin but had 3 more targets.

2b) Rookie QB: We already know most rookies have a learning process and can always hurt production of the players around them. There are No Cams or Lucks in this draft so any of the QBs coming in not names Mallett or Cousins are going to struggle and still they even might. I think the Hoyer hype is a joke, so if you like him thats your choice. I would love to see the MSU guy prove me wrong though.

3. A second WR: They are looking to get one in FA or in the draft and may take Watkins. Who knows? But this next season will not see Little or Bess as the #2 WR and anything is better then that. There is a possibility the WR2 could steal some production from him.

4: Cameron: Quite simply Shanahan will call more plays for the TE, I can argue he likes his tight ends more than Turner. Turner is great for the X WR. Its why Patterson is getting some good hype right now. But we all know Campbell did not go through his progressions as much to throw to Cameron and Turner was going Gordon all the time.

5: The Browns: Quite simply, he still plays for the Browns. This franchise is cursed, I really want no part if any Brown this year or ever. I do own Gordon in some leagues and would love to keep him but I am looking into all options for reasons i just stated. The return you will get for Gordon almost will be assured to work out better than Gordon, at least for the next few years.

I am a Gordon fan, I want him to succeed. But I believe he reached his ceiling and may have many great seasons but if people are expecting this every year, i think they will be disappointed. Sunday morning, kids are still in bed, just figured I would write my reasons why.

 

[Gandalf]

Gordon >> Blackmon in terms of future, in my opinion.

That said I don't think this is about intelligence. It's about insight and accepting help. Turning over control of your habits to a process. You know AA stuff. I don't know who ranks higher in that department and it isn't a static process. Any addiction is a lifelong illness where relapses can occur basically at any time.

 

[ghostguy123]

Yes, he missed two games, does that mean he will have this type season every year? Does that mean he will get 93 Targets over the final 7 games every year? Does that mean he will catch 24 for 500 over two game stretches every year?

The kid has talent, where did I say he didnt? I love how some read the parts they want in posts and miss the points. Since you don't read my points anyways. It was all mostly his talent that got him those numbers, not the coaching, not the number of targets, not the offense, nothing impacted his stats but his talent. Talent is the only factor into producing points. I am understanding this game of football better. Why did that same player with that same exact talent not do it the year before? Even though he was a rookie, his talent is still there. Why not the same exact stats? Thats right, because mostly talent is NOT the only thing that matters.

Edelman never had 100 catches but it was all his talent that did that for him this year, not the scheme coaching or play calling, right?

Are you for real?

You should probably look up the definition of "mostly".

You are right though when you said "Thats right, because mostly talent is NOT the only thing that matters.".............It's not the only thing. Which is why I said mostly. Mostly doesn't equal only. Dead horse, beat, but it needed it there.

So you think a guy with his talent AND ability, and now a dominant year under his belt, is going to go the next 10 years of his career without going one more year with a very high number of targets? And quite possibly another 300 point season?

Of course Norv helped, but that's about it. Whether you agree or not, Campbell sucked, and I don't think it would be very hard for the team to get another QB at some point who can throw the ball to Gordon just as well, or better.

BUt again, yeah, it was MOSTLY his talent that got him those numbers. Mostly, not all.

 

[ghostguy123]

Gordon >> Blackmon in terms of future, in my opinion.

That said I don't think this is about intelligence. It's about insight and accepting help. Turning over control of your habits to a process. You know AA stuff. I don't know who ranks higher in that department and it isn't a static process. Any addiction is a lifelong illness where relapses can occur basically at any time.

That is assuming either of them actually have an addiction.

 

[False Start]

Yes, he missed two games, does that mean he will have this type season every year? Does that mean he will get 93 Targets over the final 7 games every year? Does that mean he will catch 24 for 500 over two game stretches every year?

The kid has talent, where did I say he didnt? I love how some read the parts they want in posts and miss the points. Since you don't read my points anyways. It was all mostly his talent that got him those numbers, not the coaching, not the number of targets, not the offense, nothing impacted his stats but his talent. Talent is the only factor into producing points. I am understanding this game of football better. Why did that same player with that same exact talent not do it the year before? Even though he was a rookie, his talent is still there. Why not the same exact stats? Thats right, because mostly talent is NOT the only thing that matters.

Edelman never had 100 catches but it was all his talent that did that for him this year, not the scheme coaching or play calling, right?

Are you for real?

You should probably look up the definition of "mostly".

You are right though when you said "Thats right, because mostly talent is NOT the only thing that matters.".............It's not the only thing. Which is why I said mostly. Mostly doesn't equal only. Dead horse, beat, but it needed it there.

So you think a guy with his talent AND ability, and now a dominant year under his belt, is going to go the next 10 years of his career without going one more year with a very high number of targets? And quite possibly another 300 point season?

Of course Norv helped, but that's about it. Whether you agree or not, Campbell sucked, and I don't think it would be very hard for the team to get another QB at some point who can throw the ball to Gordon just as well, or better.

BUt again, yeah, it was MOSTLY his talent that got him those numbers. Mostly, not all.

You miss the point every and all the time.

 

[Phenix]

Gordon >> Blackmon in terms of future, in my opinion.

That said I don't think this is about intelligence. It's about insight and accepting help. Turning over control of your habits to a process. You know AA stuff. I don't know who ranks higher in that department and it isn't a static process. Any addiction is a lifelong illness where relapses can occur basically at any time.

Can we get back to Blackmon please.

I like Blackmon, suspension or not, how can you doubt his talent and upside?

Someone is trying to get him from me now, and it is tough because we have seen who he is on the field.

Is he not at Gordons level on the field? I think so, while he may be suspended, it is the off season that will be lifted at some point.

 

[ghostguy123]

You miss the point every and all the time.

It's incredibly simple. I disagree with your points as to how they relate to Gordon NEVER having another 300 point season.

He might not. But being convinced he never will and has basically no chance of ever doing it again is borderline..........no it is delusional.

 

[ghostguy123]

Gordon >> Blackmon in terms of future, in my opinion.

That said I don't think this is about intelligence. It's about insight and accepting help. Turning over control of your habits to a process. You know AA stuff. I don't know who ranks higher in that department and it isn't a static process. Any addiction is a lifelong illness where relapses can occur basically at any time.

Can we get back to Blackmon please.

I like Blackmon, suspension or not, how can you doubt his talent and upside?

Someone is trying to get him from me now, and it is tough because we have seen who he is on the field.

Is he not at Gordons level on the field? I think so, while he may be suspended, it is the off season that will be lifted at some point.

No I don't think Blackmon is at Gordon's level. Really really really good, but not great like I think Gordon can and will be.

That said, definitely, no question as to what Blackmon can do on the field. Say you cut his value in half. Let's assume he never had and off field issues. He would probably be a top 15 dynasty player, not just WR, but player. Now let's assume he struggles his whole career with off field stuff and maybe plays 2-3 more productive years for his career.

If you take the middle ground of that, that is still a pretty valuable player, because he might just never have another problem, or he night have several. People are trying to trade for him assuming he will have more problems. No way I can let him go under that assumption.

 

[Milkman]

Putting Blackmon on the block soon. I'll take a late 1st or early second this year or a 2015 1st. If there is no interest I'll hold him until he has his first big game and put him back on the block. He's a lock to drink again.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Gordon >> Blackmon in terms of future, in my opinion.

That said I don't think this is about intelligence. It's about insight and accepting help. Turning over control of your habits to a process. You know AA stuff. I don't know who ranks higher in that department and it isn't a static process. Any addiction is a lifelong illness where relapses can occur basically at any time.

That is assuming either of them actually have an addiction.

There has been a lot of buzz for a while now (before his latest suspension) that he is an alcoholic

 

[5-ish Finkle]

While Garcon caught 113 balls under Shanahan, how many deep routes did he run?

The most of any WR in the league. Shannahan's offense should not be impacting Gordon's deep targets in any meaningful way.

If Justin Blackmon isn't totally an alcoholic he's freaking close. He's an extreme binge drinker, if nothing else. Too much smoke here for there to be no fire. He is also stupid. It does not have to be merely one or the other.

He will also absolutely be playing football again at some point. Donte Stallworth straight up ran a guy over with his car while drunk and on weed, yet got reinstated eventually by the sitting commish. Blackmon will get back on the field at some point.

 

[Gandalf]

Gordon >> Blackmon in terms of future, in my opinion.

That said I don't think this is about intelligence. It's about insight and accepting help. Turning over control of your habits to a process. You know AA stuff. I don't know who ranks higher in that department and it isn't a static process. Any addiction is a lifelong illness where relapses can occur basically at any time.

That is assuming either of them actually have an addiction.

We know Blackmon has an alcohol use disorder. If you want to argue whether it is mild or severe I will grant you that.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

While Garcon caught 113 balls under Shanahan, how many deep routes did he run?

The most of any WR in the league. Shannahan's offense should not be impacting Gordon's deep targets in any meaningful way.

If Justin Blackmon isn't totally an alcoholic he's freaking close. He's an extreme binge drinker, if nothing else. Too much smoke here for there to be no fire. He is also stupid. It does not have to be merely one or the other.

He will also absolutely be playing football again at some point. Donte Stallworth straight up ran a guy over with his car while drunk and on weed, yet got reinstated eventually by the sitting commish. Blackmon will get back on the field at some point.

You're missing the point that Goddell has no discretion in substance abuse cases. If it were up to him, sure. Blackmon can help sell tickets and jerseys. But it's not up to him. I'm not going to try to pull a % out of thin air, but there's certainly a non-zero chance he fails one of the 60 or so drug / alcohol tests he will take before even getting to sit down and talk about reinstatement.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Even if I was missing that point, it's still very, very likely that Blackmon gets back on the field. He's almost certainly got people sitting on him right now to ensure it. He's already been subject to the third stage testing for, what, 6 months now? If he'd have missed/failed a test in that time it'd have been reported everywhere and he'd already be toast. Obviously, that hasn't happened yet.

Never said he'd stay on the field once it happens, since I pretty much think he's an alcoholic and will likely relapse, but he's going to get reinstated at some point. The relapse probably won't come until after he isn't being babysat anymore.

Anyway, y'all can keep chewing on this if you want. I was here more to point out that Gordon's deep targets won't be affected that much in '14.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

You miss the point every and all the time.

It's incredibly simple. I disagree with your points as to how they relate to Gordon NEVER having another 300 point season.

He might not. But being convinced he never will and has basically no chance of ever doing it again is borderline..........no it is delusional.

Dude nobody cares about you man crush on Gordon. This is a Blackmon thread. Go start your own thread proclaiming your love for Gordon, it will be relevant there.

Exact reason shark pool continues to decline.

 

[cvnpoka]

2. QB situation: Campbell was highly capable of throwing a good deep ball and only looked Gordons way. If you can look at 93 targets over the final 7 games and not think that was a huge factor in production. Lets just change the topic of conversation right now. Those are crazy numbers. The guy played two less games than Calvin but had 3 more targets.

he only played 1 less game than calvin. and calvin was noticeably injured for an entire other game where he was hardly on the field.

 

[ghostguy123]

You miss the point every and all the time.

It's incredibly simple. I disagree with your points as to how they relate to Gordon NEVER having another 300 point season.

He might not. But being convinced he never will and has basically no chance of ever doing it again is borderline..........no it is delusional.

Dude nobody cares about you man crush on Gordon. This is a Blackmon thread. Go start your own thread proclaiming your love for Gordon, it will be relevant there. Exact reason shark pool continues to decline.

But your post just got it right back on track. The biggest threat to the shark pool is probably people commenting on stuff telling other people they shouldn't be commenting on the stuff that they are commenting on. You are well within your rights to move on to the next post and stop dedicating your time to telling us why the shark pool is going under.My apologies for hijacking a blackoin thread with some Gordon posts after a gordon comparison was made by someone else. Shame on me. I have singlehandedly destroyed the shark pool.

 

[False Start]

For people wondering where he has been, there have been sightings. Not that they are the greatest sources of proof but if multiple people have seen him he is not in rehab currently or just got out not too long ago if thats where he was.

Austin Janney ‏@aus10jag Mar 3
So justin Blackmon is back in Jax, seems like a good thing.

Trill Gene Smith ‏@jags_brick 25m
My dad saw Justin Blackmon at Metro Diner this morning. Glad he's back in town.

Wale Olaogun ‏@theMCwale Mar 3
So Justin Blackmon was at the scrimmage yesterday.

 

[Warpig]

For people wondering where he has been, there have been sightings. Not that they are the greatest sources of proof but if multiple people have seen him he is not in rehab currently or just got out not too long ago if thats where he was.

Trill Gene Smith ‏@jags_brick 25m
My dad saw Justin Blackmon at Metro Diner this morning. Glad he's back in town.

Was he sipping on a Jack and Coke?

 

[False Start]

For people wondering where he has been, there have been sightings. Not that they are the greatest sources of proof but if multiple people have seen him he is not in rehab currently or just got out not too long ago if thats where he was.

Trill Gene Smith ‏@jags_brick 25m
My dad saw Justin Blackmon at Metro Diner this morning. Glad he's back in town.

Was he sipping on a Jack and Coke?

 

[Milkman]

Lol i am trying so hard to dump this kid. No takers. I guess I'm stuck with him. Come on Justin beat the odds!

 

[False Start]

No alcohol involved at least.

Justin Blackmon was involved in a single-vehicle accident early Saturday morning in Jacksonville.

The right-rear tire on Blackmon's Denali blew out on the highway, sending him into a road-side guard rail. Thankfully, Blackmon was uninjured, and alcohol was not involved. Blackmon is indefinitely suspended for multiple violations of the league's substance abuse policy. It is still unclear when Blackmon's suspension will end, but he should be able to apply for reinstatement before the beginning of 2014.

 

[KellysHeroes]

No alcohol involved at least.

Justin Blackmon was involved in a single-vehicle accident early Saturday morning in Jacksonville.

The right-rear tire on Blackmon's Denali blew out on the highway, sending him into a road-side guard rail. Thankfully, Blackmon was uninjured, and alcohol was not involved. Blackmon is indefinitely suspended for multiple violations of the league's substance abuse policy. It is still unclear when Blackmon's suspension will end, but he should be able to apply for reinstatement before the beginning of 2014.

Glad this is a non-issue story, but whenever u see his name pop up you always gotta be a little nervous

 

[cstu]

No alcohol involved at least.

Justin Blackmon was involved in a single-vehicle accident early Saturday morning in Jacksonville.

The right-rear tire on Blackmon's Denali blew out on the highway, sending him into a road-side guard rail. Thankfully, Blackmon was uninjured, and alcohol was not involved. Blackmon is indefinitely suspended for multiple violations of the league's substance abuse policy. It is still unclear when Blackmon's suspension will end, but he should be able to apply for reinstatement before the beginning of 2014.

It's a relief to find out he's driving late at night and not drunk.

 

[False Start]

Ugh!

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/03/suspended-wr-justin-blackmon-cited-for-reckless-driving-after-car-crash/

The good news is Blackmon wasn’t injured, didn’t hurt anyone else and no drugs or alcohol were involved.

The bad news is Blackmon once again is involved in something that shows him in a negative light. Not the best thing to happen when you are suspended indefinitely by the NFL. News 4 in Jacksonville has the details.



State troopers with the Florida Highway Patrol said suspended Jaguars football player Justin Blackmon was involved in an early morning crash.


Blackmon, 24, was cited for careless driving.
Read more at http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/03/suspended-wr-justin-blackmon-cited-for-reckless-driving-after-car-crash/#3EbFxMakjf1bmM2b.99

 

[KellysHeroes]

Ugh!

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/03/suspended-wr-justin-blackmon-cited-for-reckless-driving-after-car-crash/

The good news is Blackmon wasn’t injured, didn’t hurt anyone else and no drugs or alcohol were involved.

The bad news is Blackmon once again is involved in something that shows him in a negative light. Not the best thing to happen when you are suspended indefinitely by the NFL. News 4 in Jacksonville has the details.



State troopers with the Florida Highway Patrol said suspended Jaguars football player Justin Blackmon was involved in an early morning crash.


Blackmon, 24, was cited for careless driving.

Read more at http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/03/suspended-wr-justin-blackmon-cited-for-reckless-driving-after-car-crash/#3EbFxMakjf1bmM2b.99

I can't open the link, but I thought his tire blew out... hell thats happen to me.

 

[cstu]

Ugh!

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/03/suspended-wr-justin-blackmon-cited-for-reckless-driving-after-car-crash/

The good news is Blackmon wasn’t injured, didn’t hurt anyone else and no drugs or alcohol were involved.

The bad news is Blackmon once again is involved in something that shows him in a negative light. Not the best thing to happen when you are suspended indefinitely by the NFL. News 4 in Jacksonville has the details.



State troopers with the Florida Highway Patrol said suspended Jaguars football player Justin Blackmon was involved in an early morning crash.


Blackmon, 24, was cited for careless driving.

Read more at http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/03/suspended-wr-justin-blackmon-cited-for-reckless-driving-after-car-crash/#3EbFxMakjf1bmM2b.99

@WJXTChris : FHP issues new press release, saying that careless driving charges against Justin Blackmon have been rescinded. 47 minutes ago

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Ugh!

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/03/suspended-wr-justin-blackmon-cited-for-reckless-driving-after-car-crash/

The good news is Blackmon wasn’t injured, didn’t hurt anyone else and no drugs or alcohol were involved.

The bad news is Blackmon once again is involved in something that shows him in a negative light. Not the best thing to happen when you are suspended indefinitely by the NFL. News 4 in Jacksonville has the details.

State troopers with the Florida Highway Patrol said suspended Jaguars football player Justin Blackmon was involved in an early morning crash.

Blackmon, 24, was cited for careless driving.

Read more at http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/03/suspended-wr-justin-blackmon-cited-for-reckless-driving-after-car-crash/#3EbFxMakjf1bmM2b.99http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2...-driving-after-car-crash/#3EbFxMakjf1bmM2b.99

@WJXTChris : FHP issues new press release, saying that careless driving charges against Justin Blackmon have been rescinded. 47 minutes ago

Makes sense. When I read the story, couldn't understand how a blown tire = a citation. To me this story was actually a positive for Blackmon.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Blown tire = 'careless driving' citation? WTF? This state trooper also working for the media?

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Ugh!

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/03/suspended-wr-justin-blackmon-cited-for-reckless-driving-after-car-crash/

The good news is Blackmon wasn’t injured, didn’t hurt anyone else and no drugs or alcohol were involved.

The bad news is Blackmon once again is involved in something that shows him in a negative light. Not the best thing to happen when you are suspended indefinitely by the NFL. News 4 in Jacksonville has the details.State troopers with the Florida Highway Patrol said suspended Jaguars football player Justin Blackmon was involved in an early morning crash.Blackmon, 24, was cited for careless driving.Read more at http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/03/suspended-wr-justin-blackmon-cited-for-reckless-driving-after-car-crash/#3EbFxMakjf1bmM2b.99http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2...-driving-after-car-crash/#3EbFxMakjf1bmM2b.99

@WJXTChris : FHP issues new press release, saying that careless driving charges against Justin Blackmon have been rescinded. 47 minutes ago

Makes sense. When I read the story, couldn't understand how a blown tire = a citation. To me this story was actually a positive for Blackmon.

Only in the sense that he wasn't drunk.... which is good news I guess.

That is the good news. In the past he probably rarely drove sober.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Blown tire = 'careless driving' citation? WTF? This state trooper also working for the media?

don't they almost always assign fault to one of the drivers in an accident? i guess if you're the only one in the accident they don't have a choice.

 

[Riffraff]

Good news: No one hurt and no alcohol involved.
Bad news: He's driving around at 4am in the morning.

Not exactly keeping pro football hours.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Good news: No one hurt and no alcohol involved.

Bad news: He's driving around at 4am in the morning.

Not exactly keeping pro football hours.

Sounds exactly like pro football hours in the offseason. But I get your point.

 

[Gandalf]

Overall I would say it's a negative.

 

[thecardiackid]

In my eyes Gordon and Blackmon are equal talents and both are one strike away. Because of Blackmons current suspension he is treated like the plague, but with Gordon after having a season he will never have again, is given the #3 overall spot. Same upside in production value and Blackmon could be had for wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy cheaper. If he wasn't suspended currently he would still be treated like the plague and Gordon would still be #3. Its fantasy football not real life, taking a flyer on a guy with talent like that is a no brainer at his current price.

It's funny, if Blackmon stays on the wagon and Gordon gets busted their values will flip.

one has showed the ability to stay clean (not get caught) once they got to the pros and one hasn't.

 

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

I was just thinking this AM when I originally posted this thread and how much flack I took. "How dare You say Blackmon has a problem!?!" " A young guy just having fun like all 22 year olds do!". "0.27 at 7 am in the morning isn't a problem!".

I sure am glad I went with my gut on this one and I passed on him in all my rookie drafts. Instead of getting a drunk I got Andrew Luck, Doug Martin, Alshon Jeffery, RG3.........I'm sure glad I didn't listen to y'all.

 

[Eminence]

I started Justin Blackmon once and he scored me a bunch of points.

 

[Bojang0301]

I was just thinking this AM when I originally posted this thread and how much flack I took. "How dare You say Blackmon has a problem!?!" " A young guy just having fun like all 22 year olds do!". "0.27 at 7 am in the morning isn't a problem!".

I sure am glad I went with my gut on this one and I passed on him in all my rookie drafts. Instead of getting a drunk I got Andrew Luck, Doug Martin, Alshon Jeffery, RG3.........I'm sure glad I didn't listen to y'all.

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