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Probably doesn't deserve a thread but we're talking about a 24 year old potential superstar who is contracted through 2015 and Arizona has officially put on the block.Who can do it? What will it take? I've been tracking some on MLB Traderumors and here was Wednesday's latest.

Justin Upton Rumors: WednesdayBy Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 11 at 1:06pm CST]The Diamondbacks are willing to listen to offers for Justin Upton, but they’re not looking for prospects. "We're still in win mode,” GM Kevin Towers told Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic. We’ll track the latest rumors on Upton here with the most recent updates up top.•Olney suggests the Braves could be a fit for Upton (Twitter links). Atlanta could build a deal around third baseman/outfielder Martin Prado and pitching prospects, Olney writes. Upton would balance the Braves' lineup and provide the team with cost certainty going forward, Olney adds.•The Diamondbacks believe they could obtain a package of perhaps three players for Upton, Piecoro writes. Towers said he’s not shopping the right fielder, but will listen in case an enticing offer emerges. “Clubs have asked; I've said, 'Hey, tell me what you would do.' We could either say yes or say no," the GM told Piecoro.•The Rangers could make sense as a suitor for Upton, ESPN.com’s Buster Olney suggests (all Twitter links). The Diamondbacks could be interested in third base prospect Mike Olt and the Rangers could like the idea of adding outfield depth with Josh Hamilton headed toward free agency.•Upton has no-trade protection that allows him to block deals to some big-market teams, including the Yankees, according to Olney.
 
Probably doesn't deserve a thread but we're talking about a 24 year old potential superstar who is contracted through 2015 and Arizona has officially put on the block.Who can do it? What will it take? I've been tracking some on MLB Traderumors and here was Wednesday's latest.

Justin Upton Rumors: WednesdayBy Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 11 at 1:06pm CST]The Diamondbacks are willing to listen to offers for Justin Upton, but they’re not looking for prospects. "We're still in win mode,” GM Kevin Towers told Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic. We’ll track the latest rumors on Upton here with the most recent updates up top.•Olney suggests the Braves could be a fit for Upton (Twitter links). Atlanta could build a deal around third baseman/outfielder Martin Prado and pitching prospects, Olney writes. Upton would balance the Braves' lineup and provide the team with cost certainty going forward, Olney adds.•The Diamondbacks believe they could obtain a package of perhaps three players for Upton, Piecoro writes. Towers said he’s not shopping the right fielder, but will listen in case an enticing offer emerges. “Clubs have asked; I've said, 'Hey, tell me what you would do.' We could either say yes or say no," the GM told Piecoro.•The Rangers could make sense as a suitor for Upton, ESPN.com’s Buster Olney suggests (all Twitter links). The Diamondbacks could be interested in third base prospect Mike Olt and the Rangers could like the idea of adding outfield depth with Josh Hamilton headed toward free agency.•Upton has no-trade protection that allows him to block deals to some big-market teams, including the Yankees, according to Olney.
Huh, first sentence says the team is not looking for prospects...then each speculation of where he could go involves the other team trading prospects. Makes it read like a totally useless article.
 
Probably doesn't deserve a thread but we're talking about a 24 year old potential superstar who is contracted through 2015 and Arizona has officially put on the block.Who can do it? What will it take? I've been tracking some on MLB Traderumors and here was Wednesday's latest.

Justin Upton Rumors: WednesdayBy Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 11 at 1:06pm CST]The Diamondbacks are willing to listen to offers for Justin Upton, but they’re not looking for prospects. "We're still in win mode,” GM Kevin Towers told Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic. We’ll track the latest rumors on Upton here with the most recent updates up top.•Olney suggests the Braves could be a fit for Upton (Twitter links). Atlanta could build a deal around third baseman/outfielder Martin Prado and pitching prospects, Olney writes. Upton would balance the Braves' lineup and provide the team with cost certainty going forward, Olney adds.•The Diamondbacks believe they could obtain a package of perhaps three players for Upton, Piecoro writes. Towers said he’s not shopping the right fielder, but will listen in case an enticing offer emerges. “Clubs have asked; I've said, 'Hey, tell me what you would do.' We could either say yes or say no," the GM told Piecoro.•The Rangers could make sense as a suitor for Upton, ESPN.com’s Buster Olney suggests (all Twitter links). The Diamondbacks could be interested in third base prospect Mike Olt and the Rangers could like the idea of adding outfield depth with Josh Hamilton headed toward free agency.•Upton has no-trade protection that allows him to block deals to some big-market teams, including the Yankees, according to Olney.
Huh, first sentence says the team is not looking for prospects...then each speculation of where he could go involves the other team trading prospects. Makes it read like a totally useless article.
That's why the Atlanta rumor with Prado included is interesting.
 
The key unknown that nobody outside looking in can see is how irreparable the relationship is between Upton and the organizaion.

Other than that, Arizona is in a position where they don't have to make a move. They're in contention, have Upton signed to a reasonable long term deal and have a young team that doesn't need blowing up. Towers is smart enough to not sell low.

 
The key unknown that nobody outside looking in can see is how irreparable the relationship is between Upton and the organizaion. Other than that, Arizona is in a position where they don't have to make a move. They're in contention, have Upton signed to a reasonable long term deal and have a young team that doesn't need blowing up. Towers is smart enough to not sell low.
fences can be mended with guys like Upton if he can live up to his potential. Really thought he would be in the thick of the MVP race this year, instead he's in the thick of the muffintop on a fat Northern Arizona chick.
 
In his latest insider article, Buster Olney talks about potential trade partners for Diamondbacks outfielder Justin Upton.

•There isn't going to be a lot of suitors for Upton. Many teams are wondering why the Diamondbacks seem so eager to part with the 24-year-old outfielder.

•The Blue Jays could use Upton, but they have a much bigger need for pitching right now. Upton would give the team some cost certainty, as he's signed through the 2015 season.

•The Pirates are a fit for Upton, but it's unclear if they would be able to get a deal done. Olney noted that Diamondbacks GM Kevin Towers and Pirates GM Neal Huntington may not be a good fit to pull off this deal.

•Upton could be a good replacement for Josh Hamilton, and the Rangers do have the pieces to acquire the young outfielder. Mike Olt would likely be involved in the deal.

•The Tigers could offer third baseman Nick Castellanos in a deal for Upton.

•The Braves could structure an offer built around Martin Prado and some pitching prospects.

•The Cubs would likely have to part with Starlin Castro if they want Upton.

•The Mariners believe Upton would be happy playing in their ballpark, but would have to give up their top prospects in a deal.

•Olney also mentioned the Mets, Reds and Indians as teams that could get a deal done.
Olney's thoughts. The bolded is the same thing I'm wondering. Why? Something ain't right.
 
from the freep:

Word on the street is the Diamondbacks are entertaining trade offers for outfielder Justin Upton, according to Nick Piecoro of The Arizona Republic.

Upton, a former No. 1 overall pick, is scuffling to say the least. He's hitting just .273 with seven home runs and 37 RBIs in 79 games. The good news? He's only 24, he just hit 31 home runs last season, has three seasons remaining on his current contract, could probably use a change of scenery and primarily plays right field, where Brennan Boesch is struggling mightily for the Tigers.

So could Detroit be interested in Upton? ESPN's Buster Olney thinks so.

Olney writes: "The addition of Upton would give the Tigers another basher in the middle of their lineup to go along with Miguel Cabrera and Prince Fielder, and Upton might benefit from a change of scenery. Nick Castellanos, the Tigers' elite third base prospect, is blocked at the big league level by Cabrera and could fill the Diamondbacks' desire to add an infielder who could play third base in the majors right now."

The caveat: The Tigers are already grooming Castellanos to play in the outfield with Cabrera set at third base. He debuted at right field for the first time at Double-A Erie tonight against Binghamton, and could see action at the major-league level before the end of the season.

Another caveat: A deal for Upton likely would require Castellanos and prized pitching prospect Jacob Turner, who's sporting a 3.16 ERA in 10 starts at Triple-A Toledo and could be a future ace to pair with Justin Verlander in the not-so-distant future.

ESPN.com's Jim Bowden writes:

"Like the Rangers, Upton probably requires the Tigers' top two prospects in third baseman Nick Castellanos and right-hander Jacob Turner. Castellanos, who stood out at this year’s Futures Game, has a chance to be one of the AL's best third basemen someday, but he is blocked in Detroit right now. He can really hit and his power should come in time.

Turner has a high ceiling as well, and to trot him out with young hurlers Trevor Bauer, Tyler Skaggs and Wade Miley would set up the D-backs’ rotation for years. For the Tigers, it would give them a third impact bat behind Miguel Cabrera and Prince Fielder and improve their defense in right field. And when Victor Martinez comes back in 2013, it would give the Tigers -- who are clearly in "win-now" mode -- arguably the best lineup in the AL. "

That's quite a price for the Tigers if they want to further bolster their batting lineup, which already features a struggling former No. 1 overall pick (Delmon Young, although he is on a 4-game home run streak).

However, the Tigers have had success trading prospects for proven talent. They traded outfielder Cameron Maybin and pitcher Andrew Miller to the Marlins for Cabrera (and Dontrelle Willis, who we'll leave alone) in 2008. They also traded outfielder Casper Wells and lefty Charlie Furbush to the Mariners for pitcher Doug Fister last season.

 
The upton brothers are certainly gifted, probably nice guys, but I think they both have ten cent heads and based on approach, they'll never realize their ceilings.

 
The upton brothers are certainly gifted, probably nice guys, but I think they both have ten cent heads and based on approach, they'll never realize their ceilings.
:goodposting: I was hoping Justin wouldn't follow in BJ's footsteps, but neither looks like they have the desire to match their talent.From going to Rays games, BJ comes off as a real sour punk. I don't think I've once seen him sign an autograph. Kids just clamoring for him near the dugout but he just ignores them every day. BJ is no Granderson.
 
The upton brothers are certainly gifted, probably nice guys, but I think they both have ten cent heads and based on approach, they'll never realize their ceilings.
:goodposting: I was hoping Justin wouldn't follow in BJ's footsteps, but neither looks like they have the desire to match their talent.From going to Rays games, BJ comes off as a real sour punk. I don't think I've once seen him sign an autograph. Kids just clamoring for him near the dugout but he just ignores them every day. BJ is no Granderson.
And whats frustrating about BJ is, when you can see him lock in and get on that big stage, I think he can be phenomenal, as evidenced by that 2008 postseason run. I dont think he has the day to day focus and intentsity to be worth the money and headache. I feel like Justin's similar, but seems to have more of an internal motor to be successful but he looks like he gives away dozens of ABs per year, BJ looks like he gives away hundreds. Giving away two top prospect for Justin, cost controlled or not, is crazy. You want to tell me, an A, a B and a couple of C's or three B's or something like that. I would like to see particularly Justin get in the right enviroment with the right people. I think him and Gibson may have just been two alphas who collided. Maybe you get him out of there motivated, and with a chip on his shoulder to stick it to AZ/Gibson, he's worth considering.
 
'Cliff Clavin said:
Jays should snatch up another "troubled" player.Would Gose, Snider and Hechavarria be enough?
NODiamondbacks want SS and/or 3B that is ready NOW ........and they have decent depth at OF and P ........besides despite the talent, Gose is even more of a head case than JUp ...........and Snider? may well be a AAAA player - rakes in the minors can't stay in a major league lineup
 
'Cliff Clavin said:
Jays should snatch up another "troubled" player.Would Gose, Snider and Hechavarria be enough?
NODiamondbacks want SS and/or 3B that is ready NOW ........and they have decent depth at OF and P ........besides despite the talent, Gose is even more of a head case than JUp ...........and Snider? may well be a AAAA player - rakes in the minors can't stay in a major league lineup
Lawrie for Upton straight up Cliff?
 
'Cliff Clavin said:
Jays should snatch up another "troubled" player.Would Gose, Snider and Hechavarria be enough?
NODiamondbacks want SS and/or 3B that is ready NOW ........and they have decent depth at OF and P ........besides despite the talent, Gose is even more of a head case than JUp ...........and Snider? may well be a AAAA player - rakes in the minors can't stay in a major league lineup
Lawrie for Upton straight up Cliff?
Nah. Lawrie's younger, cheaper and will be just as good, if not better IMO. Jays don't have anyone coming up at 3rd either. And he is a marketing bonanza for Toronto. He isn't getting traded anytime soon.I'm really not a good judge of trade value in baseball.
 
'Cliff Clavin said:
Jays should snatch up another "troubled" player.Would Gose, Snider and Hechavarria be enough?
NODiamondbacks want SS and/or 3B that is ready NOW ........and they have decent depth at OF and P ........besides despite the talent, Gose is even more of a head case than JUp ...........and Snider? may well be a AAAA player - rakes in the minors can't stay in a major league lineup
Lawrie for Upton straight up Cliff?
Nah. Lawrie's younger, cheaper and will be just as good, if not better IMO. Jays don't have anyone coming up at 3rd either. And he is a marketing bonanza for Toronto. He isn't getting traded anytime soon.I'm really not a good judge of trade value in baseball.
ya dont say
 
Justin Upton is available for the right offer, but his no-trade protection enables him to block trades to four teams. The Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs and Indians are the teams on Upton's list, Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports report. As the FOX reporters note, players often include high-revenue teams like the Yankees on no-trade lists to maximize their leverage. Here are todays latest Upton-related rumors:

Arizona GM Kevin Towers told Bob Nightengale of USA Today that hes getting more calls than ever as the trade deadline approaches. The volume of calls could be related to Uptons availability and to the increase in potential buyers.

Towers told Nightengale hell let Upton know if hes nearing a deal with another club and suggested he might even give the right fielder some input if two teams offer similar packages. "I told Justin that if we're at the 1-yard line, I'll tell you the teams that are interested," Towers said
Seems weird that the team would loop in the player that they're fielding calls on and may be considering offers for him. And that they'll bring him in to the conversation if they have choices....stupid football reference included.Sure does seem like they plan to move him.

 
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I would like to see particularly Justin get in the right enviroment with the right people. I think him and Gibson may have just been two alphas who collided. Maybe you get him out of there motivated, and with a chip on his shoulder to stick it to AZ/Gibson, he's worth considering.
Have you read anything about a rift between Gibson and Upton? Most of what I've read by Gibson has been full support of Upton and how hard he's been working to get out of his slump.
 
'scrumptrulescent said:
I would like to see particularly Justin get in the right enviroment with the right people. I think him and Gibson may have just been two alphas who collided. Maybe you get him out of there motivated, and with a chip on his shoulder to stick it to AZ/Gibson, he's worth considering.
Have you read anything about a rift between Gibson and Upton? Most of what I've read by Gibson has been full support of Upton and how hard he's been working to get out of his slump.
I don't know really whats going on, I thought I saw AZ posters from here alluding to "organziational problems" with JUP and the franchise, and at least partly to do with Gibson but I don't know chapter and verse on it.
 
•Agent Larry Reynolds told Bob Nightengale of USA Today that Upton hasn’t ruled out the possibility of accepting a trade to a team on his no-trade list (Twitter link). If nothing else, the no-trade list provides Upton and Reynolds with some potential leverage.•Olney spoke with officials who are convinced the Diamondbacks will trade Justin Upton.
From everything I read it appears that bridges are burning or burnt between Upton and Arizona.
 
•Agent Larry Reynolds told Bob Nightengale of USA Today that Upton hasn’t ruled out the possibility of accepting a trade to a team on his no-trade list (Twitter link). If nothing else, the no-trade list provides Upton and Reynolds with some potential leverage.•Olney spoke with officials who are convinced the Diamondbacks will trade Justin Upton.
From everything I read it appears that bridges are burning or burnt between Upton and Arizona.
Someone on the Rotoworld forums claims to know someone in the DBacks organization that said that Upton & Gibson had a heated argument in the dugout or clubhouse a few months ago (when Upton was benched for a week).
 
•Agent Larry Reynolds told Bob Nightengale of USA Today that Upton hasn’t ruled out the possibility of accepting a trade to a team on his no-trade list (Twitter link). If nothing else, the no-trade list provides Upton and Reynolds with some potential leverage.•Olney spoke with officials who are convinced the Diamondbacks will trade Justin Upton.
From everything I read it appears that bridges are burning or burnt between Upton and Arizona.
Someone on the Rotoworld forums claims to know someone in the DBacks organization that said that Upton & Gibson had a heated argument in the dugout or clubhouse a few months ago (when Upton was benched for a week).
huh. Maybe Smack Tripper was onto something. Did the argument happen before or after one of the owners publicly mentioned that Upton was a letdown?
 
•Agent Larry Reynolds told Bob Nightengale of USA Today that Upton hasn’t ruled out the possibility of accepting a trade to a team on his no-trade list (Twitter link). If nothing else, the no-trade list provides Upton and Reynolds with some potential leverage.•Olney spoke with officials who are convinced the Diamondbacks will trade Justin Upton.
From everything I read it appears that bridges are burning or burnt between Upton and Arizona.
Someone on the Rotoworld forums claims to know someone in the DBacks organization that said that Upton & Gibson had a heated argument in the dugout or clubhouse a few months ago (when Upton was benched for a week).
huh. Maybe Smack Tripper was onto something. Did the argument happen before or after one of the owners publicly mentioned that Upton was a letdown?
If memory serves, it was after
 
A handful of teams still don't know whether to buy, hold or sell with eight days remaining before the non-waiver trade deadline, Yahoo’s Jeff Passan reports. Expanded playoffs are on the horizon for the first time, so more teams than ever are within striking distance of a postseason berth, and the trade market is unsettled as a result. Here are the latest notes from Passan and colleague Tim Brown...

•The Diamondbacks “adore” Rangers third base prospect Mike Olt, Passan writes. Olt could help the Rangers put together a competitive trade offer for 24-year-old right-fielder Justin Upton.
 
Aaaaaand this ought to about wrap it up.

D'Backs Don’t Expect To Trade Upton Mid-SeasonBy Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 24 at 12:12pm CST]It sounds like Justin Upton isn’t going to be traded -- at least not any time soon. Diamondbacks managing partner Ken Kendrick told Scott Bordow of the Arizona Republic that it’s a “reasonable assumption” that Upton will stay put for the rest of the season."I think we're better off with him on our team," Kendrick said. "I this whole thing has gotten way more attention than it deserves."Rumors and speculation have followed Upton for much of the past month, as the Diamondbacks publicly acknowledged their willingness to listen to trade offers for their 24-year-old right fielder. Kendrick, who expressed disappointment in Upton earlier this year, didn’t deny that the Diamondbacks could consider trade offers again after the season ends.Kendrick predicted Arizona won't make a major trade in the week leading up to the July 31st non-waiver trade deadline. But he doesn’t expect GM Kevin Towers to be inactive. “I just wouldn't expect anything dramatic," Kendrick said.
:sadbanana:
 

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