Tillmanisahero
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What do you think of this guy? Does he have much chance to contribute or have value this year?
ThanksFleurDeLeap said:Tillman, I think Keiland has some potential to be a starting RB for them (own him in a dynasty). Portis is aging and we know Johnson/Parkers best days are behind them. Torain is in the mix as well, but the injury bug seems to always bite him. We also know Shanny's history with unknown RB's...i'd def would wait-and-see on Keiland.any more opinions on this?
As expected, the Redskins cut Formerly Fast Willie Parker Saturday, meaning Larry Johnson has made the team as Clinton Portis' backup. More interesting is the fact that the Redskins also waived Mike Shanahan pet Ryan Torian, though they're expected to try and get Torain through waivers and send him to their practice squad. Most revealing in these couple moves is how quickly undrafted rookie Keiland Williams has gotten himself into position to make a fantasy impact this season. Williams is the third-stringer in D.C. behind two veterans who seem well past their primes. Williams might not be that deep a sleeper all of a sudden.
This. Plus lj has lost a step. Portia could keep Williams little known if he stays healthy.I don't think Portis or LJ can last all 16 games this season...so this guy really has some upside!
I don't think they have a choice regarding Portis with that line and those WR's. They need to have a strong running game and protect McNabb on 3rd downs, and nobody's shown they can (still/at all) do it in real games other than Portis; LJ's washed up and Williams is unproven. Besides, it's not like they want to preserve Portis at this point in his career. They'll now wring all of the mileage they can out of him - he's nearing the end anyway, though he's still very effective with support. The good news for Portis is that as their favored 3rd down back, he figures to get some nice ypc in those situations where they opt to run draws, not to mention PPR value as a guy receiving swing passes and looks on wheel routes or screens. I think Portis may be more valuable this year than he has been since 2006 or so.Any chance Willaims gets 6-8 carries a game? I think 275 carries plus 3rd down duties is a lot for Portis at this point. Plus some think blocking takes a bigger toll on the body than running the ball.Portis starter and solid RB1 in fantasy (275+ carries) due to his and system's superiority and the preference to keep him in on 3rd downs (he's probably the best blitz-picker upper -ha! - in the league), so he'll even get his share of receptions too. LJ is primary backup but a plodder; may get some goalline carries but I expect no more than 5-8 touches per game absent a Portis injury.How do homers assess the RB situation now that Torain and Parker have been cut?
Keiland Williams is solidly a third backup and special teamer absent injuries and or LJ completely sucking, however in dynasty I'd take him over LJ as he may be one of those classic bargain basement RB's that Shanny's spotted and who blossoms to become the RB of the future.
To answer your question, yes, I could see Williams getting 6-8 carries given that they'll have a lot of carries anyway (probably on 1st and 2nd downs) and Portis will need a blow from time to time. This is especially true of LJ just outright sucks and can't muster even, say, 3.5 ypc.
I think it is absolutely laughable to suggest Portis and/or Larry Johnson are going to play anything remotely close to 16 games. Both LJ and Portis are what they are at this point in their career trajectory that is in the sunset phase for each.Keiland Williams has been the most consistent RB for Washington this pre-season. Nobody is talking about him. We all know Shanny's history taking no-name runners into the spotlight.Shake, rinse, repeat. I've seen this movie before.All of the tea leaves are lining up beautifully for Keiland Williams to be the next Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, Rheuben Droughns etc. making him the absolute true definition of a deep sleeper. I would've previously put Kareem Huggins in that box, but he has now jumped the shark and can no longer be considered a deep sleeper.Sleep on Keiland Williams to your own detriment.JohnnyU said:My guess is that Williams has no impact at all during the regular season unless there is an injury to Larry Johnson and would have to also see a serious injury to Portis to have a serious impact. IMO he's WW fodder in leagues with < 22 roster spots
I think it is absolutely laughable to suggest Portis and/or Larry Johnson are going to play anything remotely close to 16 games. Both LJ and Portis are what they are at this point in their career trajectory that is in the sunset phase for each.Keiland Williams has been the most consistent RB for Washington this pre-season. Nobody is talking about him. We all know Shanny's history taking no-name runners into the spotlight.Shake, rinse, repeat. I've seen this movie before.All of the tea leaves are lining up beautifully for Keiland Williams to be the next Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, Rheuben Droughns etc. making him the absolute true definition of a deep sleeper. I would've previously put Kareem Huggins in that box, but he has now jumped the shark and can no longer be considered a deep sleeper.Sleep on Keiland Williams to your own detriment.JohnnyU said:My guess is that Williams has no impact at all during the regular season unless there is an injury to Larry Johnson and would have to also see a serious injury to Portis to have a serious impact. IMO he's WW fodder in leagues with < 22 roster spots
I think it is absolutely laughable to suggest Portis and/or Larry Johnson are going to play anything remotely close to 16 games. Both LJ and Portis are what they are at this point in their career trajectory that is in the sunset phase for each.Keiland Williams has been the most consistent RB for Washington this pre-season. Nobody is talking about him. We all know Shanny's history taking no-name runners into the spotlight.Shake, rinse, repeat. I've seen this movie before.All of the tea leaves are lining up beautifully for Keiland Williams to be the next Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, Rheuben Droughns etc. making him the absolute true definition of a deep sleeper. I would've previously put Kareem Huggins in that box, but he has now jumped the shark and can no longer be considered a deep sleeper.Sleep on Keiland Williams to your own detriment.JohnnyU said:My guess is that Williams has no impact at all during the regular season unless there is an injury to Larry Johnson and would have to also see a serious injury to Portis to have a serious impact. IMO he's WW fodder in leagues with < 22 roster spots
9. Shanahan said this about Keiland Williams and why he made the roster, “He’s good on blitz pickups and he can run the ball, he can catch the ball. He’s a heady kid. Very few times you find a guy that young that comes in and plays that well consistently in practice and in games.
Portis will be fine this year. I'm confident he'll be north of 4 ypc, and he'll definitely get carries given that the team desperately needs a running game to blunt pass pressure on McNabb, and also given their lack of WR talent. Portis is even their preferred 3rd down back given his blocking talents, so he'll even get more than his average receptions. I would actually predict top-10 stats for him, especially in PPR, to the extent that he gets in the end zone enough, i.e. double digit TD's.Keiland might not even need a LJ/ Clinton to have value..LJ/ Clinton could suck their way to the bench....
Just in case I'm wrong I picked him up in a few leaguesI think it is absolutely laughable to suggest Portis and/or Larry Johnson are going to play anything remotely close to 16 games. Both LJ and Portis are what they are at this point in their career trajectory that is in the sunset phase for each.Keiland Williams has been the most consistent RB for Washington this pre-season. Nobody is talking about him. We all know Shanny's history taking no-name runners into the spotlight.Shake, rinse, repeat. I've seen this movie before.All of the tea leaves are lining up beautifully for Keiland Williams to be the next Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, Rheuben Droughns etc. making him the absolute true definition of a deep sleeper. I would've previously put Kareem Huggins in that box, but he has now jumped the shark and can no longer be considered a deep sleeper.Sleep on Keiland Williams to your own detriment.My guess is that Williams has no impact at all during the regular season unless there is an injury to Larry Johnson and would have to also see a serious injury to Portis to have a serious impact. IMO he's WW fodder in leagues with < 22 roster spots
Interesting - it may not mean anything except Williams won't be called upon unless Portis AND LJ get hurt, but when Shanahan gives effusive praise like that to an RB, it makes sense to listen.Definitely a guy to stash away considering the tread on the tires of both Portis and LJ.Link
9. Shanahan said this about Keiland Williams and why he made the roster, “He’s good on blitz pickups and he can run the ball, he can catch the ball. He’s a heady kid. Very few times you find a guy that young that comes in and plays that well consistently in practice and in games.