Kelley Washington (1 Viewer)

[HellToupee]

Reche Caldwell's reaction upon hearing about Washington's signing:

the use of for RC never gets old

 

[Pat Patriot]

2007 Roster

QB

Tom Brady

Matt Cassel

RB

Laurence Maroney

Sammy Morris

Kevin Faulk

Heath Evans

WR

Donte Stallworth

Reche Caldwell

Wes Welker

Jabar Gaffney

Kelly Washington

Chad Jackson

TE

Ben Watson

Kyle Brady

Dave Thomas

OL

Matt Light

Logan Mankins

Dan Koppen

Stephen Neal

Nick Kaczur

Ryan O'Callaghan

Billy Yates

Russ Hockstein

Lonnie Paxton

DL

Richard Seymour

Vince Wilfork

Ty Warren

Jarvis Green

Marquisse Hill

Michael Wright

LB

Roosevelt Colvin

Adalius Thomas

Mike Vrabel

Tedy Bruschi

Eric Alexander

Larry Izzo

DB

Rodney Harrison

Eugene Wilson

Assante Samuel

Ellis Hobbs

Artrell Hawkins

James Sanders

Chad Scott

Mel Mitchell

Randall Gay

K

Stephen Gostkowski

P

Josh Miller/Todd Sauerbrun

Thats 47 guys. Question Marks include Junior Seau, Troy Brown and probably a couple of others I dont have listed.

Not a lot of room left for rookies.

 

[Rovers]

I figure Washington is David Terrell II, and Jackson could be an IR casualty. Plenty of room for rooks.

 

[Gatorman]

Dear New England

Please continue to pay for injury prone semi talented WRs so My team won't waste money on them.

Sincerely,

A Dolphin Fan

 

[Pat Patriot]

I figure Washington is David Terrell II, and Jackson could be an IR casualty. Plenty of room for rooks.

I'm sure there is still plenty of room on the Jets for our castoffs.

 

[Rovers]

I figure Washington is David Terrell II, and Jackson could be an IR casualty. Plenty of room for rooks.

I'm sure there is still plenty of room on the Jets for our castoffs.

Naw, we learned out lesson with Chatham... we didn't go after Banta-Cain. So.... you think Washigton is all that? I mean the guy was considered a bad character guy on a team that has the NFL record for most arrests in a season. Stallworth is an upgrade over Branch, and gives the Pats a deep threat they didn't have without Branch last year. Welker has better hands than Caldwell or Gaffney, so upgrade there too. Still, Brady doesn't have a proven #1 WR.... Stallworth makes for a great #2 though. The rest all all role player/#3 WR's. Let me project here, since I'm sure another anti-Jets comment will come from the Pats homer here.... yeah, the Jets don't have a #1 WR either, but they have TWO #2's.

 

[David Yudkin]

Let me project here, since I'm sure another anti-Jets comment will come from the Pats homer here.... yeah, the Jets don't have a #1 WR either, but they have TWO #2's.

Even with two #2s, the Jets scored around 70 fewer points than NE did last year.

 

[Ducegonads]

What these moves say to me is that the Patriots are not going to use the draft to fill needs. They will use the draft to take BPA.And for that, I'm really excited.

To me, it reads that they will go defense with those two first rounders. Probably a LB and a S/CB or some combo of two of those...

Agreed, they go D all day long. I personally think the braintrust feels like they can judge the defensive talent better then offensive talent. Usually don't see them going with the sexy offensive positions early in the draft.

 

[Ducegonads]

Reche Caldwell's reaction upon hearing about Washington's signing:

the use of for RC never gets old

Yeah, he's a hammer head shark.

 

[David Yudkin]

What these moves say to me is that the Patriots are not going to use the draft to fill needs. They will use the draft to take BPA.And for that, I'm really excited.

To me, it reads that they will go defense with those two first rounders. Probably a LB and a S/CB or some combo of two of those...

Agreed, they go D all day long. I personally think the braintrust feels like they can judge the defensive talent better then offensive talent. Usually don't see them going with the sexy offensive positions early in the draft.

Since Belichick came to town, here's the Pats track record in the 1st and second rounds. They've actually drafted offensive players by a 2 to 1 margin . . .2004 1-21 21 Vince Wilfork DT Miami (FL) 2004 2-31 63 Marquise Hill DE Louisiana State 2003 1-13 13 Ty Warren DT Texas A&M 2003 2-4 36 Eugene Wilson DB Illinois 2001 1-6 6 Richard Seymour DT Georgia 2006 1-21 21 Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota 2006 2-4 36 Chad Jackson WR Florida 2005 1-32 32 Logan Mankins G Fresno State 2004 1-32 32 Ben Watson TE Georgia 2003 2-13 45 Bethel Johnson WR Texas A&M 2002 1-21 21 Dan Graham TE Colorado 2002 2-33 65 Deion Branch WR Louisville 2001 2-17 48 Matt Light T Purdue 2000 2-15 46 Adrian Klemm T Hawaii

 

[Rovers]

Let me project here, since I'm sure another anti-Jets comment will come from the Pats homer here.... yeah, the Jets don't have a #1 WR either, but they have TWO #2's.

Even with two #2s, the Jets scored around 70 fewer points than NE did last year.

Thanks for the news flash! Really? No kidding?Pats O line>JetsPats RB's>JetsPats QB>JetsThought I'd save you some trouble.

 

[Fat Nick]

The thing going against Washington is that while he's new to the league, he's a bit older than most players with his experience. He's a year older than Stallworth and has less time in the league because he played baseball for a few years. Add in the fact that he's basically sat around for 2 years, and I'm surprised that anybody still considers him a "project." I'm not saying he can't be productive, but at this point, being 28 come opening day, and with no substantial playing experience, I can't see him being considered "starting caliber." A good #3 WR? Maybe. A good red-zone WR? Maybe.

 

[Workhorse]

$300,000 signing bonus? This is another one-year tryout, much like the Stallworth deal. Nothing more. Total no lose proposition for the Pats.

This idea of signing guys to big deals with a one-year escape clause for the team seems like a pretty smart move.

 

[Ducegonads]

What these moves say to me is that the Patriots are not going to use the draft to fill needs. They will use the draft to take BPA.And for that, I'm really excited.

To me, it reads that they will go defense with those two first rounders. Probably a LB and a S/CB or some combo of two of those...

Agreed, they go D all day long. I personally think the braintrust feels like they can judge the defensive talent better then offensive talent. Usually don't see them going with the sexy offensive positions early in the draft.

Since Belichick came to town, here's the Pats track record in the 1st and second rounds. They've actually drafted offensive players by a 2 to 1 margin . . .2004 1-21 21 Vince Wilfork DT Miami (FL) 2004 2-31 63 Marquise Hill DE Louisiana State 2003 1-13 13 Ty Warren DT Texas A&M 2003 2-4 36 Eugene Wilson DB Illinois 2001 1-6 6 Richard Seymour DT Georgia 2006 1-21 21 Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota 2006 2-4 36 Chad Jackson WR Florida 2005 1-32 32 Logan Mankins G Fresno State 2004 1-32 32 Ben Watson TE Georgia 2003 2-13 45 Bethel Johnson WR Texas A&M 2002 1-21 21 Dan Graham TE Colorado 2002 2-33 65 Deion Branch WR Louisville 2001 2-17 48 Matt Light T Purdue 2000 2-15 46 Adrian Klemm T Hawaii

I guess what I was trying to say was WR's, RB's and QB's in the 1st or 2nd rounds. Maroney looks like the real deal, C.Jackson has Hartley Dykes "SP (Hart Lee Dykes) SP" written all over him, Watson and Graham are what they are and one of them is now much richer then the other, Branch, arghhhh that one still hurts. I think it sheds a little light on the Pats perspective on what they don't want to deal with though, the offensive "pay me' attitude. Always love the DL and OL picks when those guys win you Championships.

 

[Pat Patriot]

What these moves say to me is that the Patriots are not going to use the draft to fill needs. They will use the draft to take BPA.

And for that, I'm really excited.

To me, it reads that they will go defense with those two first rounders. Probably a LB and a S/CB or some combo of two of those...

Agreed, they go D all day long. I personally think the braintrust feels like they can judge the defensive talent better then offensive talent. Usually don't see them going with the sexy offensive positions early in the draft.

Since Belichick came to town, here's the Pats track record in the 1st and second rounds. They've actually drafted offensive players by a 2 to 1 margin . . .2004 1-21 21 Vince Wilfork DT Miami (FL)

2004 2-31 63 Marquise Hill DE Louisiana State

2003 1-13 13 Ty Warren DT Texas A&M

2003 2-4 36 Eugene Wilson DB Illinois

2001 1-6 6 Richard Seymour DT Georgia

2006 1-21 21 Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota

2006 2-4 36 Chad Jackson WR Florida

2005 1-32 32 Logan Mankins G Fresno State

2004 1-32 32 Ben Watson TE Georgia

2003 2-13 45 Bethel Johnson WR Texas A&M

2002 1-21 21 Dan Graham TE Colorado

2002 2-33 65 Deion Branch WR Louisville

2001 2-17 48 Matt Light T Purdue

2000 2-15 46 Adrian Klemm T Hawaii

I guess what I was trying to say was WR's, RB's and QB's in the 1st or 2nd rounds. Maroney looks like the real deal, C.Jackson has Hartley Dykes written all over him, Watson and Graham are what they are and one of them is now much richer then the other, Branch, arghhhh that one still hurts. I think it sheds a little light on the Pats perspective on what they don't want to deal with though, the offensive "pay me' attitude. Always love the DL and OL picks when those guys win you Championships.

I think you might be a little off on your analogy. Hart Lee Dykes had an excellent rookie year (49/795/5) got hurt in year 2 playing 10 games (34/549/2) and was never heard from again. Chad Jackson hasnt even started his career. His rookie year was a waste. His 2nd year is likely gone. Chad Jackson needs to go some just to have a Hart Lee Dykes type of career.

 

[Bri]

I grabbed Kelley in a draft hoping he'd sign somewhere he can play. He does have alot of talent and good size for a WR.

Caldwell's not going anywhere.

Re-Gaffney comments. Troy Brown was way down on the depth chart and came thru when called upon. Gaffney was too and worked his way up. The Pats/Brady does that. 4th or 5th WR will get some key throws his way, more than on most teams.

No one has said this is the Pats 2007 roster. Trading any of these WRs is always a possibility once they're inked to a deal. There isn't much WRs left on the FA market IMO so...who knows.

 

[DropKick]

Dear New EnglandPlease continue to pay for injury prone semi talented WRs so My team won't waste money on them.Sincerely,A Dolphin Fan

Sad thing is (and I'm a Dolphin fan) that even if Miami had a good receiver... who would throw him the ball?Where have you gone, Danny Boy?(Code: should have signed Drew Brees)(PS. Losing Welker matters, too)

 

[Tag]

How the hell does Kelly Washington warrant 2 pages

 

[Kirby]

If he stays healthy... he's going to be good. Injuries and being behind great WRs kept him off the field, but when he was on it, he was a first down machine.

 

[NEUPJ]

Dear Miami,

Thanks for screwing up every decision for the last 3 years and filling your roster with enough average players to ensure you end up with an 8-8 record, mid-first round draft pick and miss the playoffs every year.

Sincerely,

The AFC East

 

[Davej626]

Dear New EnglandPlease continue to pay for injury prone semi talented WRs so My team won't waste money on them.Sincerely,A Dolphin Fan

No problem our good friend Miami. Please continue to sign washed-up, injury prone qbs that can't throw.Sincerely,Asante Samuel, Ty Law, Rodney Harrison, etc, etc...

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Dear New EnglandPlease continue to pay for injury prone semi talented WRs so My team won't waste money on them.Sincerely,A Dolphin Fan

LOL.. :IBTL: I find it puzzling that peopleSTILL question the ability of Bill Belichick and Scott Piolito recognize and sign talented playersthat other NFL GMs overlook.Remember, this is the NFL.If a player turns out to be a dud,he will get cut, it's not baseball.

 

[Ducegonads]

What these moves say to me is that the Patriots are not going to use the draft to fill needs. They will use the draft to take BPA.

And for that, I'm really excited.

To me, it reads that they will go defense with those two first rounders. Probably a LB and a S/CB or some combo of two of those...

Agreed, they go D all day long. I personally think the braintrust feels like they can judge the defensive talent better then offensive talent. Usually don't see them going with the sexy offensive positions early in the draft.

Since Belichick came to town, here's the Pats track record in the 1st and second rounds. They've actually drafted offensive players by a 2 to 1 margin . . .2004 1-21 21 Vince Wilfork DT Miami (FL)

2004 2-31 63 Marquise Hill DE Louisiana State

2003 1-13 13 Ty Warren DT Texas A&M

2003 2-4 36 Eugene Wilson DB Illinois

2001 1-6 6 Richard Seymour DT Georgia

2006 1-21 21 Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota

2006 2-4 36 Chad Jackson WR Florida

2005 1-32 32 Logan Mankins G Fresno State

2004 1-32 32 Ben Watson TE Georgia

2003 2-13 45 Bethel Johnson WR Texas A&M

2002 1-21 21 Dan Graham TE Colorado

2002 2-33 65 Deion Branch WR Louisville

2001 2-17 48 Matt Light T Purdue

2000 2-15 46 Adrian Klemm T Hawaii

I guess what I was trying to say was WR's, RB's and QB's in the 1st or 2nd rounds. Maroney looks like the real deal, C.Jackson has Hartley Dykes written all over him, Watson and Graham are what they are and one of them is now much richer then the other, Branch, arghhhh that one still hurts. I think it sheds a little light on the Pats perspective on what they don't want to deal with though, the offensive "pay me' attitude. Always love the DL and OL picks when those guys win you Championships.

I think you might be a little off on your analogy. Hart Lee Dykes had an excellent rookie year (49/795/5) got hurt in year 2 playing 10 games (34/549/2) and was never heard from again. Chad Jackson hasnt even started his career. His rookie year was a waste. His 2nd year is likely gone. Chad Jackson needs to go some just to have a Hart Lee Dykes type of career.

You know something? Right after I added my 2c's I realized that it was Hart Lee Dykes, not my butchered spelling of his name, my bad. As a Pats fan I'd love to see something come of CJ but as you mentioned, it was two and through for HLD. I'm feeling the same could be in CJ's future. The Stallworth, Welker & Washington signings signal some displeasure with the 2006 WR core. Not CJ's fault that the injury happened but I feel that this leaves him in a difficult position to recover from in 2007/8. The DS and KW deals could simply become one year deals and CJ will have his chance again but I don't see this team waiting for him to become an average NFL WR. He'll probably be put on IR or the PUP list as soon as they can do that. Your right though, he needs something to hang his hat on.

 

[Desert_Power]

Dear New EnglandPlease continue to pay for injury prone semi talented WRs so My team won't waste money on them.Sincerely,A Dolphin Fan

 

[cstu]

What these moves say to me is that the Patriots are not going to use the draft to fill needs. They will use the draft to take BPA.

And for that, I'm really excited.

To me, it reads that they will go defense with those two first rounders. Probably a LB and a S/CB or some combo of two of those...

Agreed, they go D all day long. I personally think the braintrust feels like they can judge the defensive talent better then offensive talent. Usually don't see them going with the sexy offensive positions early in the draft.

Since Belichick came to town, here's the Pats track record in the 1st and second rounds. They've actually drafted offensive players by a 2 to 1 margin . . .2004 1-21 21 Vince Wilfork DT Miami (FL)

2004 2-31 63 Marquise Hill DE Louisiana State

2003 1-13 13 Ty Warren DT Texas A&M

2003 2-4 36 Eugene Wilson DB Illinois

2001 1-6 6 Richard Seymour DT Georgia

2006 1-21 21 Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota

2006 2-4 36 Chad Jackson WR Florida

2005 1-32 32 Logan Mankins G Fresno State

2004 1-32 32 Ben Watson TE Georgia

2003 2-13 45 Bethel Johnson WR Texas A&M

2002 1-21 21 Dan Graham TE Colorado

2002 2-33 65 Deion Branch WR Louisville

2001 2-17 48 Matt Light T Purdue

2000 2-15 46 Adrian Klemm T Hawaii

I guess what I was trying to say was WR's, RB's and QB's in the 1st or 2nd rounds. Maroney looks like the real deal, C.Jackson has Hartley Dykes written all over him, Watson and Graham are what they are and one of them is now much richer then the other, Branch, arghhhh that one still hurts. I think it sheds a little light on the Pats perspective on what they don't want to deal with though, the offensive "pay me' attitude. Always love the DL and OL picks when those guys win you Championships.

I think you might be a little off on your analogy. Hart Lee Dykes had an excellent rookie year (49/795/5) got hurt in year 2 playing 10 games (34/549/2) and was never heard from again. Chad Jackson hasnt even started his career. His rookie year was a waste. His 2nd year is likely gone. Chad Jackson needs to go some just to have a Hart Lee Dykes type of career.

You know something? Right after I added my 2c's I realized that it was Hart Lee Dykes, not my butchered spelling of his name, my bad. As a Pats fan I'd love to see something come of CJ but as you mentioned, it was two and through for HLD. I'm feeling the same could be in CJ's future. The Stallworth, Welker & Washington signings signal some displeasure with the 2006 WR core. Not CJ's fault that the injury happened but I feel that this leaves him in a difficult position to recover from in 2007/8. The DS and KW deals could simply become one year deals and CJ will have his chance again but I don't see this team waiting for him to become an average NFL WR. He'll probably be put on IR or the PUP list as soon as they can do that. Your right though, he needs something to hang his hat on.

I don't remember what exactly happened to HLD, but injuries aren't the career-enders that they were in 1989(?). The good thing about Jackson is that he's young (22) and actually younger than many of the WR's in this year's draft.