Bull Dozier
Footballguy
I've seen some keto recipes that look like rolls/popovers made mainly from egg, but I have to believe the consistency is quiche like, so I haven't even considered trying them.
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joker
Footballguy
Your mention of the rolls made me look up recipes, and I just found a low-carb bread recipe using almond flour, eggs, bread, baking powder, cream of tartar, and a little bit of Stevia to reduce the egg taste. The pictures look pretty great, and while it's a bit of work, I'm going to give it a shot and see if it turns out.
culdeus
Footballguy
Well the coaches are actually somewhat sort of useful now with their streaming thing. People can really get customized blends of their programs now that make sense for their ability level and ramps appropriately.Don't misunderstand me, I'm not a Beachbody pusher. I think it is classic MLM stuff, so when she told me she signed up to be a coach, I gave her crap. She said she hopes to just get enough customers to pay for her Shakeology (yes, still a big push from them), which she has done.Whatever.
I agree that Beachbody doesn't coach the scale stuff, which is why her social media posts don't talk about the scale. The problem is the scale is a lifetime obsession for a lot of women, and watching a DVD of skinny woman with fake boobs isn't going to shake you of that connection, regardless of success. That's my complaint.
I can't argue with the results of the program short term. I did P90X and lost weight, not even eating the meal plan. Burn out happened for me though, plus injury (don't recall if it was related). My wife is different, she's one of those crazy people that actully enjoys working out. Food is her problem though, so if having to be spoon fed (pun intended) what to eat every meal of the day works for her, then power to her. I don't think that works for most people though. Maybe if it is a "job" for her to keep it up, and money actually comes in a little bit, then maybe it could actually work long term. Unfortunately she is friends with one of the top coaches in the entire country, so while she denies it, I think she has some pie in the sky ideas.
I mean P90x has some good videos, but some are pretty cringeworthy now 10 years later. The ramp rate of insanity is too much for a novice, etc. etc.
With a good coach you should be able to guide someone through a blend of stuff they offer and with some consistency hit just about any goal you want. They really have a great cross section of products for the average out of shape individual.
I'm at the point where if I can't get to the gym I'll fall back to some of their stuff just to get a workout in and most of the time do a back to back. It's good content. I've never paid attention a second to their nutrition guides or done shakeology.
Tecumseh
Footballguy
I haven't made this yet because I don't have a hand mixer, but it may be worth a shot.
https://www.dietdoctor.com/recipes/keto-garlic-bread
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Why do these Beachbody coaches seem so pushy?
I had a fantasy football commissioner (complete stranger to all) pushing non-stop for people in the league to sign up for Beachbody a couple years back. It's bizarre to ask strangers one time (IMO) but to continually ask when people (solely joined to play fantasy football) are obviously ignoring your sales pitch is weird. Guess he was a coach. Whatever that entails. When no one joined his Beachbody program, he folded the dynasty league.
100% true story. The guy still recruits and starts dynasty leagues non-stop on this forum. Those poor people that join expecting a long term league.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Anyone else used shredded cheese as the pizza crust? Used last summer and thought was pretty good to satisfy pizza craving. I've never tried cauliflower crust before but may give that a try too.
I think this MAY be it: http://healthyketo.com/keto-cream-cheese/no-dough-low-carb-pizza-crust/
I think this MAY be it: http://healthyketo.com/keto-cream-cheese/no-dough-low-carb-pizza-crust/
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Tecumseh
Footballguy
Are you talking about the fathead recipe? Almond flour, eggs, cream cheese, mozzarella? It's pretty great. I probably make it once a week.
http://www.fathead-movie.com/index.php/2013/06/30/weekend-bonus-the-older-brothers-oldest-sons-faux-carb-pizza/
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
I haven't tried that one but may do if ever get a craving for pizza again. I've never tried almond flour.
I located a link to the cheese crust pizza I did last year and posted above. Lots of ways you can make a good tasting pizza on Keto. Just find a crust that best suits you.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I find eating a bunch of nuts helps with the desire for bread and carby crunchy things like chips and crackers. I stick to pecans macadamias walnuts and brazil nuts as they are lower in carbs than most. When I'm busy, I want convenient and rarely want to cook. Convenient grub that you can just grab and eat is mostly carby. A simple fix for a pizza craving is to make cauliflower or eggplant parmesan. I get two thick steaks from a head of cauli cutting straight through the stem and save the small pieces for something else. Coat in olive oil and then the topside in almond meal. Broil till crunchy. Ladle on the marinara and cover in Italian cheeses. Bake at 400 until the cheese is just starting to brown. It's simple and if you want it to taste more like pizza toss some pep and sausage on top the cheese. I've been low carb and sometimes ketogenic for a month with no eggs and very little meat. I wanted to drop 20 and I'm down 8-10.
John Bender
Footballguy
Fathead pizza dough is pretty much the Keto standard. It's really good - definitely the closest thing to actual pizza crust there is on this diet.
culdeus
Footballguy
Because the shakes are super lucrative. If you can get just a few on board it's free money.Why do these Beachbody coaches seem so pushy?
I had a fantasy football commissioner (complete stranger to all) pushing non-stop for people in the league to sign up for Beachbody a couple years back. It's bizarre to ask strangers one time (IMO) but to continually ask when people (solely joined to play fantasy football) are obviously ignoring your sales pitch is weird. Guess he was a coach. Whatever that entails. When no one joined his Beachbody program, he folded the dynasty league.
They sell whey and a multivitamin and mark it up a ton. Maybe 100% They are generous with commission.
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Why do these Beachbody coaches seem so pushy?
I had a fantasy football commissioner (complete stranger to all) pushing non-stop for people in the league to sign up for Beachbody a couple years back. It's bizarre to ask strangers one time (IMO) but to continually ask when people (solely joined to play fantasy football) are obviously ignoring your sales pitch is weird. Guess he was a coach. Whatever that entails. When no one joined his Beachbody program, he folded the dynasty league.
This, plus is the typical MLM market structure. The more they sell, plus the more they get signed up to sell under them, the more they make. It's a snowball and the people who really hustle make bank.
I think the only difference between this and most other MLM schemes is that the product isn't complete garbage. It's not the best in the world, but it is good for what it is, with prices jacked up to spread the commissions around. I couldn't believe how much my wife said she made from one person buying a month supply of shakeology.
matuski
Footballguy
I'm trying to keep an even keel on expectations. I know this can't keep going at this rate... can it? 13lbs 13 days.
I'm assuming a lot of this is water weight. I'm also easily running a 25% deficit. Really no will power involved to this point. I am in awe of this, I have always really struggled with carbs... but this whole heavy cream, sauces, dressings, cheese, etc makes it mindless for me.
I plan to start lifting more seriously again next week. Do I need to change anything? Just keep doing what I'm doing and workout or should I up the protein?
I'm assuming a lot of this is water weight. I'm also easily running a 25% deficit. Really no will power involved to this point. I am in awe of this, I have always really struggled with carbs... but this whole heavy cream, sauces, dressings, cheese, etc makes it mindless for me.
I plan to start lifting more seriously again next week. Do I need to change anything? Just keep doing what I'm doing and workout or should I up the protein?
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
No it can't. You will plateau, but the weight should continue to come off, just more slowly. I lost 18.5 pounds in my first full month on this last year. Month 2 was 4.5 lbs, then 3 lbs, then 7lbs, then flat until I had to go off because I couldn't do it on my winter schedule. When you get to that flat point over the course of the month it is time to look at what to do. until then it should be cruise control.
I did not lift, so I don't know what that will do to your progress.
Plainfield John
Footballguy
I lost 20 pounds in my first 2 weeks, then lost almost nothing the next 3 weeks or so, then started losing again. In total, I'm down just over 40 pounds since the start of the year. If your weight loss stagnates, stick with it and hopefully it'll start up again in a few weeks like it did for me.
seahawk 17
Footballguy
What are the plans for Easter? Looks like I will have some ham (1.5 carbs 3oz), mashed cauliflower, asparagus, prime rib, perhaps a salad.
matuski
Footballguy
Omelette (cheese/sausage/green peppers, onions).
I will skip the wife's traditional coffee cake.
Grilling up some prime filet mignon for din din. Mashed cauliflower, salad. Probably splurge on some wine.
John Bender
Footballguy
I made Keto lasagna tonight after much testing.
It is incredible. Will put up recipe tonight.
https://imgur.com/a/TvYbQ
Those are fake noodles but they taste like the real thing. Made out of cheese and spices.
It is incredible. Will put up recipe tonight.
https://imgur.com/a/TvYbQ
Those are fake noodles but they taste like the real thing. Made out of cheese and spices.
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Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Going off the rails. Well, that wasn't the plan but that's what happened.
Destroyed the toilet this morning, and back on plan this week.
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
It was funny when I woke up and took the morning leak. It was the shortest morning pee I can remember taking. My first thought was, "well, the scale is not going to be nice to me this morning."
E-Z Glider
Footballguy
Two weeks in. No cheats. 6lbs down 
. Half way to my goal (making it 30 days). Feeling pretty good overall. Really missing some fruit. Oh, and beer. 
3/19 - 185lbs
3/26 - 182lbs
4/2 - 179lbs
. Half way to my goal (making it 30 days). Feeling pretty good overall. Really missing some fruit. Oh, and beer. 3/19 - 185lbs
3/26 - 182lbs
4/2 - 179lbs
culdeus
Footballguy
So I think I've maybe figured out my 
issues, but not completely sure. I think I am reacting to certain cheeses and maybe also reacting to beers with higher yeast content. Each of those seem to be linked.
I think I'm going to try a few things, going to cut booze out entirely when I get back from the masters, and cut dairy out entirely, along with sugar. Basically Whole 30 lite. One thing I see is that eating lots of fermented foods and things can make things a bit worse so those are gone too.
I already run a diet that is basically about 80-100g carb a day so this will probably put me down to 50 unless I go heavy spud or something.
issues, but not completely sure. I think I am reacting to certain cheeses and maybe also reacting to beers with higher yeast content. Each of those seem to be linked. I think I'm going to try a few things, going to cut booze out entirely when I get back from the masters, and cut dairy out entirely, along with sugar. Basically Whole 30 lite. One thing I see is that eating lots of fermented foods and things can make things a bit worse so those are gone too.
I already run a diet that is basically about 80-100g carb a day so this will probably put me down to 50 unless I go heavy spud or something.
culdeus
Footballguy
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
My sis is ripped in her late 50s. No skin sagging on her arms, defined arms and legs. Abs. 5-3 115. 20 year olds leer from behind at the beach and then see her wrinkled sun dried face and get embarrassed. Her diet since the early 80s has been health food M-F and whatever the hell she wants on weekends. She's likes beer. She loves baked hot dogs and everything Cheesecake Factory. I've told her to take pics and write a diet book starting with a blog and social media. She can sure preach it. Health Food to her is a mostly vegetarian diet but she's known for going home at lunch and grilling a filet mignon. I've had her tell me exactly what she eats for a week and realized it isn't health food M-F. It's calorie restriction. She rarely gets 1000 calories M-F. I think the longevity research on calorie restriction hit some bumps here and there but will just get stronger and stronger. Food kills us.
She's a dedicated daily jogger, so that's part of it too.
John Bender
Footballguy
Dairy screws me up bad. I can go 2-3 days without a trip to the throne (typical on this diet BTW) but as soon as I eat a meal with heavy cheese. Things go kablooey
belljr
Footballguy
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I had an experience with a glass of milk a few months back and haven't touched it since. Some blood streaked gelatinous bright yellow membrane looking thing somehow got through the homogenization and into my glass. It poured out like a clump of snot. No mas.
matuski
Footballguy
John Bender
Footballguy
I posted this in the Pre-Diabetes thread but I'll give a condensed version here. I was diagnosed with diabetes last August. Since then, my A1C has gone from 11.7 to 5.1 (non diabetic). My weight has gone from 250 to 190. My overall cholesterol has gone from 362 to 220, my HDL (bad cholesterol) has gone from 42 to 32 and my LDL (good cholesterol) has gone from 106 to 158. Now I've been very militant with the Keto lifestyle - no cheat days, not even a cheat meal and I'm sure I'll find some areas to get more lax (i.e. allowing trace amount of maltodextrin, etc), but wanted to give some encouragement to those who are considering the diet lifestyle. It just works.
John Bender
Footballguy
https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/756652-keto-ii/?do=findComment&comment=20879932
all my recipes got nested into the spoiler tags, just unlock the first one and everything I've tested/created or tried is there. I'm typing up my lasagna recipe now
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Awesome. I was diagnosed many years ago when pushing 3 bills. I lost 100 pounds almost all of it keto style at the start of the whole paleo thing. I fluctuate with the seasons between 195 and 215 but I am off prescription meds. I use Berberine instead of Metformin. My GP considers me diabetic because of the decade old diagnosis and what would happen if I ate carbs like most do. But my endo says I'm cured, the little valves on my pancreas do what they're supposed to and my insulin sensitivity is high. My fasted glucose is always between 90-100 (where I was pushing 200 years ago) and my A1C has been under the 5.7 threshold for years. I've linked to him before, but again Dr. Fung is my guy. Fasting is his deal.
I have developed a helluva list of eliminated foods and as oppressive as it sounds to those without our issues, I really enjoy the way I have been eating lately probably because I feel so good. No grains, almost no fruit, no refined sugars, no milk, no beans, no pork, no asparagus, and no alcohol. Since recommitting recently it has been easier than I can remember. I did backslide through the holidays, but the current regimen feels permanent. We'll see, but something has changed about the way I say no to things I need to say no to. There's no consideration or hesitation. I feel too good.
Great job man.
steelerfan1
Footballguy
Hi John, Congrats on the great progress. Just wanted to mention the cholesterol thing though. I just got hit with a fairly high level, probably genitics. LDL is the bad type and it should be under 130. HDL is the good and should be above 41. I'm hoping you just had a typo, but if you didn't wanted to give you a heads-up.
John Bender
Footballguy
I definitely transposed those values. I'm not so good at reading these lab results, but they upload them to a patient portal for us to view and I definitely got them backwards.
I appreciate the clarification for sure. Thanks!
E-Z Glider
Footballguy
Need to go on the Naked and Afraid diet. Some dude on the last episode lost 44lbs in 15 days.
Of course, he ended up getting medically evacuated and almost died, so there's that.
Tecumseh
Footballguy
So we just got back from our mini-vacation. When we left Saturday morning, I weighed 230.4lbs. While away, I ate whatever I wanted. We had mexican one night, with tortilla chips galore, chicken and dumplings, desserts, bagels, english muffins, french fries, and whatever else. This morning I definitely noticed that my face was more puffy looking. When we got home, first thing I did was step on the scale. I was thinking 234.5-235. Try 238.8. Holy crap! I'm not upset or anything because I know it's all water, but my god...
FWIW, the only thing that I really enjoyed reuniting with was the Mexican food, especially the chips and salsa. The other crap I can comfortably leave behind.
E-Z Glider
Footballguy
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Tecumseh
Footballguy
I think if you revert to eating full carbs you just need to plan to carry around extra water weight. I'll defer to others for confirmation, but I believe that once you reach your goal weight you would ideally try to stay between 50-100g of carbs anyway to prevent gaining all of the weight back, and this would also help prevent storing all the water weight as well.
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