Kevin Jones Cancels Workout (1 Viewer)

[JamesTheScot]

Then we have the other teams that were and weren't there. I think it's telling that the teams that DID attend were fairly obviously looking for backup purposes only. The Steelers have Parker, Mendenhall, and just signed Moore. They aren't looking at Jones to fill a need at RB1 or RB2. Same with Tennessee and Green Bay - they've got entrenched starters and backups (probably). So despite what the fantasy community and Jones' agent seem to think, nobody seems to want KJ as a starter. The teams that could use competition at RB1 (Chicago, etc) weren't there because they don't think he would fill that bill and/or they don't think they will be willing to give him anything close to what he will be asking for and they don't want to waste their time.As for why Jones would want to go to a particular place (e.g. Tennessee), as a previous poster mentioned, he's unemployed. He'll go wherever he can get a job, probably wherever they offer him the most money. It's not like teams are beating down his door at this point. If Tennessee or whoever offered him the same money as another team that needs a starter, I could see going to the team that needs a starter, but it's way too early for him to be filtering out his potential employers.I agree with some others that there is a disconnect between the fantasy community's evaluation of Jones' talent the and the NFL community's.In fairness, I also agree that this workout doesn't mean a whole lot either way - it's early. So while you can read into it a little bit, it's fair to say no one should going crazy with predictions based on this event. Private workouts in the middle of training camps will tell the story a lot better.

I think GB has a starter, but not necessarily an entrenched starter. Grant had a solid outing last year but that doesn't mean the front office thinks he's more talented than the free agents. He was a practice squad guy in '05 and an IR casualty in '06. I'm not down on him at all, but I don't think he's so charmed the front office they wouldn't even consider bringing in someone with more "perceived" talent to at least give him some competition.I don't think White is entrenched in Tennessee either. With his weight and commitment issues, I can see this being a real opportunity for someone to come in and take the job from him without a whole lot of effort. Even more so than GB, I can see them taking a look at KJ.Right now, no one knows if KJ is capable of carrying the ball this season.Right now, teams are simply waiting for camps to show them what their needs are and for time to show if KJ is healthy.I think Tennessee might be great opportunity for KJ.

 

[moderated]

I don't think he's so charmed the front office they wouldn't even consider bringing in someone with more "perceived" talent to at least give him some competition.

this is the major problem, while FF people are somehow in love with KJ, at this stage in the game i highly doubt any teams front office views KJ as more talented then Grant. He's not in college anymore where he looked great, he's in the NFL where he's been at best pedestrian.He's a gimp who was never that good even when healthy. Ryan Grant had a better year then KJ has ever had in his first year starting.GB isn't signing KJ, they are in his division so i'm pretty sure they know he isn't that good, plus he's coming up some of the most major injuries a RB can have. (the dreaded lis franc and an major knee injury).He would be behind both Grant and Brandon Jackson and i doubt he would sign the vet min to be a 3rd stringer.

 

[Boone22]

I don't think he's so charmed the front office they wouldn't even consider bringing in someone with more "perceived" talent to at least give him some competition.

this is the major problem, while FF people are somehow in love with KJ, at this stage in the game i highly doubt any teams front office views KJ as more talented then Grant. He's not in college anymore where he looked great, he's in the NFL where he's been at best pedestrian.He's a gimp who was never that good even when healthy. Ryan Grant had a better year then KJ has ever had in his first year starting.GB isn't signing KJ, they are in his division so i'm pretty sure they know he isn't that good, plus he's coming up some of the most major injuries a RB can have. (the dreaded lis franc and an major knee injury).He would be behind both Grant and Brandon Jackson and i doubt he would sign the vet min to be a 3rd stringer.

JamesTheScot is refering to GRANT not KJ in that quote. He's saying that while Grant performed well, KJ has more talent when healthy so if KJ can come back healthy, he could step into the starting role in GB since Grant is not a front office darling.

 

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I don't think he's so charmed the front office they wouldn't even consider bringing in someone with more "perceived" talent to at least give him some competition.

this is the major problem, while FF people are somehow in love with KJ, at this stage in the game i highly doubt any teams front office views KJ as more talented then Grant. He's not in college anymore where he looked great, he's in the NFL where he's been at best pedestrian.He's a gimp who was never that good even when healthy. Ryan Grant had a better year then KJ has ever had in his first year starting.GB isn't signing KJ, they are in his division so i'm pretty sure they know he isn't that good, plus he's coming up some of the most major injuries a RB can have. (the dreaded lis franc and an major knee injury).He would be behind both Grant and Brandon Jackson and i doubt he would sign the vet min to be a 3rd stringer.

JamesTheScot is refering to GRANT not KJ in that quote. He's saying that while Grant performed well, KJ has more talent when healthy so if KJ can come back healthy, he could step into the starting role in GB since Grant is not a front office darling.

I know what he was saying, i'm saying that i highly doubt there are many front offices who think KJ is more talented then Grant going forward.I really don't think GB has any interest in KJ. When KJ was more of a quick/speed RB in college he looked good, in the NFL he had to change his style to one that didn't fit his natural abilities and he's been nothing but a run-of-the-mill RB.Grant > KJ in every way, especially health, and i'm not even that high on Grant.Why is it just assumed KJ is so talented? He looked decent his rookie year, but being a decent yet injury prone RB doesn't get you far in the NFL.I think there is a HUGE gap in how FF people and NFL people view his "talent". His talent has been a figment of people's imagination due to being highly thought of coming out of college. KJ isn't the same back he was in college, he became more of a grinder and that is something he doesn't excel at.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Grant > KJ in every way

What does that mean?More speed? More acceleration? More quickness? Better vision? Better balance? Better hands? More power? Better blocker?Or just healthy in 2007 and on a better team?Grant was undrafted and spent 2005 on the Giant's practice squad. He then spent 2006 on their IR. He was traded to GB for a future 6th round pick. I'm not sure how that projects out for his career but I think it hints at his "perceived" talent.Is KJ's health a concern? Yes. Completely missing 13 starts in the last 3 years is a problem as is being marginal in many others due to nagging/unhealed injuries. So is ending the past 2 season on IR.Health is KJ's achilles heal - pardon the pun. Not his ability.

 

[snorlax]

Is anyone else still really confused about what happened here? One moment KJ's workout is cancelled, and the next he's working out for four teams. Maybe one of those four teams was putting out a false rumor to get other teams not to show up.

 

[moderated]

Maybe one of those four teams was putting out a false rumor to get other teams not to show up.

ya, the guys such a hot commodity that teams have to trick other teams to prevent them from signing him.

 

[snorlax]

Maybe one of those four teams was putting out a false rumor to get other teams not to show up.

ya, the guys such a hot commodity that teams have to trick other teams to prevent them from signing him.

I'm not really looking for a comment like that. Let it go.

 

[moderated]

Maybe one of those four teams was putting out a false rumor to get other teams not to show up.

ya, the guys such a hot commodity that teams have to trick other teams to prevent them from signing him.

I'm not really looking for a comment like that. Let it go.

All i'm pointing out is that the idea that teams are trying to trick other teams so they don't sign KJ doesn't really make any sense. KJ has been freely available to the entire NFL for months.