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LaMont Jordan (1 Viewer)

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This is a guy that I've been higher and higher on as I get closer to draft day. He had a great 2005 and then a terrible year last year marred by injuries, terrible coaching and just an all around horrific Raider team. I'm not expecting a huge jump for the Raiders, but I think that Jordan could bounce back and be a top 15 RB. I may be crazy, but I think that he's great value right now in drafts.

 
This is a guy that I've been higher and higher on as I get closer to draft day. He had a great 2005 and then a terrible year last year marred by injuries, terrible coaching and just an all around horrific Raider team. I'm not expecting a huge jump for the Raiders, but I think that Jordan could bounce back and be a top 15 RB. I may be crazy, but I think that he's great value right now in drafts.
I think that if the o-line and the zone blocking scheme is even halfway decent, you could be right.
 
The Raiders entire 2006 season was a disaster. Jordan showed what he is capable of in 2005 and perhaps, with the addition of an enthused coaching staff who has time to prepare, he (Jordan) and the offense will deliver improved results. Quite honestly, how could they do worse?

With D. Rhodes out on suspension the first 4 weeks, Jordan has an opportunity to seize the starter's role. In consideration of Michael Bush and Rhodes looking to be the favorites at RB going into next season, we may see a much more motivated Jordan who is auditioning for a starting role for a different team next year.

The unsettledness of the QB position in Oakland is the only thing that really dampens any enthusiasm for Jordan making what should be considered almost guaranteed improvement over last year's horrible performance. The Raiders defense should be in the better half of the league this year and keep the offense in a position to at least be competitve. With just solid QB play (no turnovers, and respectable 3rd down conversions), I think he could produce as an RB3, maybe even RB2 fantasy RB. BAsed on what he has shown before and his current ADP, why not take a chance on him in the 7th or 8th round?

230 carries for 900 yards and 6 TD's

25 receptions for 180 yards receiving and 1 TD

 
The Raiders entire 2006 season was a disaster. Jordan showed what he is capable of in 2005 and perhaps, with the addition of an enthused coaching staff who has time to prepare, he (Jordan) and the offense will deliver improved results. Quite honestly, how could they do worse? With D. Rhodes out on suspension the first 4 weeks, Jordan has an opportunity to seize the starter's role. In consideration of Michael Bush and Rhodes looking to be the favorites at RB going into next season, we may see a much more motivated Jordan who is auditioning for a starting role for a different team next year.The unsettledness of the QB position in Oakland is the only thing that really dampens any enthusiasm for Jordan making what should be considered almost guaranteed improvement over last year's horrible performance. The Raiders defense should be in the better half of the league this year and keep the offense in a position to at least be competitve. With just solid QB play (no turnovers, and respectable 3rd down conversions), I think he could produce as an RB3, maybe even RB2 fantasy RB. BAsed on what he has shown before and his current ADP, why not take a chance on him in the 7th or 8th round?230 carries for 900 yards and 6 TD's25 receptions for 180 yards receiving and 1 TD
I agree..Jordan could be a mini steal this season.he looks good so far. he will be the lone RB during the first four weeks of the season. By then, I'd expect him to have locked himself into the starting RB role, with Rhodes assuming 3rd down duties..Jordan has good value as a #3/4 RB..
 
He's dropped so much in FF drafts he presents a nice value IMO. However in any drafts I've actually participated in, it's Rhodes that drops.

Unlike most where their AVERAGE draft position is but a round or so sway, I think these two have a very large variance. In my experience, if you like Jordan you may have to draft him a little before his ADP.

BTW I felt like Jordan was Jekyl and Hide with the Jets too so none of this surprises me. I remember him dominating in a support role and struggling when Curtis was out or hurt and barely playing. I can't stand the guy for FF as I just can't predict when he'll do well and when he won't. The D's run defense ranking didn't seem to matter and I've always figured it was a motivational thing. For example-he could do well against Zach Thomas and Miami's D but struggle against Spikes and the Bills one year, opposite the next. Each IMO were good Ds.

 
I am not sure I see a top 15 year, but when I think of his struggles last year, I think the main two issues were coaching and injuries. Both of those should be better this year, so I see him improving on his season last year.

 
I was impressed with what I saw from him last night,

but can he do it on a week in week out basis

against the top NFL defenses ?

 
I was impressed with what I saw from him last night,but can he do it on a week in week out basisagainst the top NFL defenses ?
I think it all depends on their starting QB. If defenses respect the passing game, they won't be able to stack the line. If Culpepper (best chance IMO) is healthy and plays (and plays well), it will open things up for Jordan.
 
Ron_Mexico said:
I was impressed with what I saw from him last night,but can he do it on a week in week out basisagainst the top NFL defenses ?
I agree. It was only one game, but he pretty much single-handedly turned the game around against what I believe was still the first team defense. The Raiders (Rhodes in particular) were getting stuffed, dropping passes, and making mistakes. Then Jordan came in for Rhodes with pretty much no other changes (Walter was still at QB at that point) and made several nifty cuts on interior runs, caught a pass, and jump started the offense (he had over half the yards on a 92-yard scoring drive); it reminded me why people were so high on him a few years ago. The consistency question is huge, but odds are that the team will likely go as he goes, due to the lack of weapons & QB questions. The first three games are sweet (DET, @DEN, CLE), so he'll have max trade value right before the Miami game.
 
Two years ago, I told everyone that would listen that Lamont would be good value due to his receiving ability in the Norv Turner offense.

Then last year, I told the same group to stay far away due to the Art Shell/Tom Walsh offense.

After paying close attention this offseason, I can say that Kiffin has been a God send so far for this team's chemistry and morale. The offense looks light years ahead of where it was last season, and guess what??? They're throwing to the RBs again.

The ongoing problems are

1. the OLine looks MUCH better, but is still average at this point. Gallery seems to be settling in well at LG, but Grove is still unimpressive. He got hurt last night (not sure about severity) and Newberry came in and looked much better.

2. competition - Kiff has been very big about instilling competition everywhere on the team a la his mentor Pete Carroll. It seems to have really worked to get these guys motivated, but could also prove to be real dangerous for anyone counting on LaMont being the main guy. Having Rhodes out for the 1st four games will give Jordan a shot to take hold of the starting spot. I'm not worried about Fargas as he's a backup talent, but watch out for a guy name Adim Echemandu. He's been tearing it up in camp/preseason and Kiff's been gushing. Another dark horse is Michael Bush, but he seems headed for PUP or IR as it stands now.

3. injury - Jordan has been nicked up a lot in the last two years and he already has had a back problem this preseason. I'm not convinced of his durability at this point.

Right now you can get Jordan VERY late as a good boom/bust type. He looks in line to be the starter on what might be an okay offense despite all the hate and laughter that comment will likely generate. Just remember, this is a coaches/system league and the Raiders have a completely new offensive staff and system from last year's debacle.

I like Jordan for where you can get him right now. And if he keeps having games like last night, the cost is only going to rise from here.

 
I have to admit I missed the boat on Jordan this year. I could have gotten him instead of Betts in my draft. :lmao:

 
Just to keep it straight - Jordan came off the bench last night as Rhodes started.

Rhodes has started each preseason game. Seeing who starts week 3 is a must.

 
Isn't echemandu a FB type?
Not on the Raiders this year. And I don't think in the past either. Pretty sure he's always been a tail back.Definitely a dark horse but keep him in mind if Jordan struggles and you have some sort of insatiable thirst for Raiders running backs.Another thought with this guy is that Kiff ran RBBC at SC. If that's his MO (and I'm not saying it is for sure) a guy like Echemandu early or Rhodes after game 5, might seriously cut into any value Jordan may have as a starting FF RB.
 
Just to keep it straight - Jordan came off the bench last night as Rhodes started. Rhodes has started each preseason game. Seeing who starts week 3 is a must.
Yeah, but Rhodes is suspended for the first four games and Jordan has been nursing a back injury, which is probably the bigger reason why Rhodes has been starting.
 
Just to keep it straight - Jordan came off the bench last night as Rhodes started. Rhodes has started each preseason game. Seeing who starts week 3 is a must.
Yeah, but Rhodes is suspended for the first four games and Jordan has been nursing a back injury, which is probably the bigger reason why Rhodes has been starting.
That an assumption I'm not ready to make. Im actually not making any assumptions. Just stating the facts.Jordans hurt back is a fact. But he was healthy enough to play and play a solid chunk and did not start.He certainly looked good. And week 3 will be very telling.
 
Just to keep it straight - Jordan came off the bench last night as Rhodes started. Rhodes has started each preseason game. Seeing who starts week 3 is a must.
No it's not, really.You'll have to google or search these boards for it but there's a quote from Kiffin(which he has since restated similarly a few times) wherein he says they are both doing well, it's a 2 RB league, will need to play both etc. The further this goes on the more it is all fitting all too perfectly in as a RBBC. I know FFers don't want that but from playing time to coaches quotes to success of each to practice time with 1s.....it's all fitting.One is gonna have to blow up IMO, otherwise it's RBBC
 
Just to keep it straight - Jordan came off the bench last night as Rhodes started. Rhodes has started each preseason game. Seeing who starts week 3 is a must.
No it's not, really.You'll have to google or search these boards for it but there's a quote from Kiffin(which he has since restated similarly a few times) wherein he says they are both doing well, it's a 2 RB league, will need to play both etc. The further this goes on the more it is all fitting all too perfectly in as a RBBC. I know FFers don't want that but from playing time to coaches quotes to success of each to practice time with 1s.....it's all fitting.One is gonna have to blow up IMO, otherwise it's RBBC
I have to agree with this. Unless Jordan really grabs hold of the playing time through some blow up performances, it looks and smells like RBBC in Oakland this year. Maybe not 50/50, but 60/40 or along those lines. Enough to kill fantasy value for both players probably.
 
It's strange to see the fantasy profile of Jordan over the years. He started off as one of the top handcuffs for CMart, then got his starting gig and did well. Last year he was a bust and now he's considered a possible steal. I don't think the talent is the question. IMO, he's a far superior RB to Dom Rhodes and that will show up during the games. If anything, Rhodes' skill set/size makes him more of a 3rd down/change of pace type RB. Should be interesting to see what happens after Rhodes gets off his suspension. Does anyone know if the Raiders plan on keeping Zack Crockett as the short-yardage guy? That would drop Jordan's value a little as well.

 
Does anyone know if the Raiders plan on keeping Zack Crockett as the short-yardage guy? That would drop Jordan's value a little as well.
He hasn't been the short yardage runner in about 3 or 4 years, so I imagine the Raiders won't use him in that role.
 
Isn't echemandu a FB type?
Not on the Raiders this year. And I don't think in the past either. Pretty sure he's always been a tail back.Definitely a dark horse but keep him in mind if Jordan struggles and you have some sort of insatiable thirst for Raiders running backs.
pretty sure this is the kid the Browns cut a year or so ago.just sayin.
 
massraider said:
jbz said:
Does anyone know if the Raiders plan on keeping Zack Crockett as the short-yardage guy? That would drop Jordan's value a little as well.
He hasn't been the short yardage runner in about 3 or 4 years, so I imagine the Raiders won't use him in that role.
There was a successful goaline play with Crockett set as the lead blocker and Fargas toting the rock. For what its worth, crockett did not have many reps with the 1st team...maybe even only that play. I would cut Crockett. He hasn't been very useful lately. In Lamonts 1st season, Jordan was the main short-yardage rb. After Crockett did not establish himself as the person to gain those crucial 1-3 yard runs at the goaline or for 1st downs. Lamont looked very husky on the field btw. Do you guys think his torn-mcl is completely secure under all that weight?
 
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in my 10-team re-draft league - i'm hoping to get him in round 13... as RB4

but runs like he had a few days ago being highlighted on sportscenter hurt those chances...

 
Just to keep it straight - Jordan came off the bench last night as Rhodes started. Rhodes has started each preseason game. Seeing who starts week 3 is a must.
Very true. If the Raiders manage to start a suspended Dominic Rhodes in week 3, that will be quite telling. (it's a 4 week suspension. they're on bye week 5. you are trying to say that week 6 is important.)
 
Just to keep it straight - Jordan came off the bench last night as Rhodes started. Rhodes has started each preseason game. Seeing who starts week 3 is a must.
Very true. If the Raiders manage to start a suspended Dominic Rhodes in week 3, that will be quite telling. (it's a 4 week suspension. they're on bye week 5. you are trying to say that week 6 is important.)
Actually I think he's referring to week 3 in the preseason, but I could be wrong. :thumbup:
 

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