Lance Armstrong is a 0 Time Winner of the Tour de France (1 Viewer)

[uconnalum]

After the fact still doesn't deny him that he came first in those 7 races when they took place.

UCI strips Lance of Tour Titles

"Lance Armstrong has no place in cycling," UCI President Pat McQuaid told a news conference as he outlined how cycling would have to start again.

"The UCI wishes to begin that journey on that path forward today by confirming that it will not appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport and that it will recognise the sanction that USADA has imposed."

"I was sickened by what I read in the USADA report," McQuaid added.

"It is very difficult to accept and understand that that went on.

"Lance Armstrong deserves to be forgotten in cycling."

 

[goonsquad]

Wow. Has there ever been a bigger fall from grace in all of sports? Unbelievable.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

and nobody cares

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

and nobody cares

 

[NCCommish]

I didn't give a hairy rat's butt about cycling before Lance didn't win and I care even less now. Apparently the rules were written in such a way as they allowed doping. Given that normal humans don't approach the levels allowed to start with. So IMO they encouraged it and apparently an awful lot of people got the message. Basically he out doped the other dopers? So what? Just like baseball.

 

[The Z Machine]

There's essentially a lost decade (more like 15 years) in professional cycling. Performance enhancing drugs have been around a long time. Maybe only 10% of the TdF competitors weren't doping during that era. Lance is a cheater and acted like a complete ****-bag during his coverup. For that he should be criticized, but not the actual doping.

 

[Da Guru]

Who is the winner of these races now? The second, third and fourth place finishers were probably doping as well. It is a way of life in cycling.

 

[B-Deep]

I didn't give a hairy rat's butt about cycling before Lance didn't win and I care even less now. Apparently the rules were written in such a way as they allowed doping. Given that normal humans don't approach the levels allowed to start with. So IMO they encouraged it and apparently an awful lot of people got the message. Basically he out doped the other dopers? So what? Just like baseball.

if that was all it was, no one would care.But Lance was standing on the mountain as an example of goodness in sport and he denied this to extreme levels continually, and still does. That should matter to people. Complete orchestrated bold faced lying to everyone SHOULD matter, and to most it does.I care much less about him doping than I do about the extended farce he has pulled off since then.

 

[Jobber]

They ought to just cancel cycling as a competitive sport. Since it seems everyone near the top in these races are cheating somehow. Why even bother?

 

[Jewell]

Wow. Has there ever been a bigger fall from grace in all of sports?

O.J.

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

Wow. Has there ever been a bigger fall from grace in all of sports?

O.J.

Paterno?But I am surprised at bicycle_seat_sniffer's nonchalance about this.

 

[Otis]

and nobody cares

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

If only this could have happened before we spent a trillion dollars in transportation funds to "Share the Road".

 

[El Floppo]

Who is the winner of these races now? The second, third and fourth place finishers were probably doping as well. It is a way of life in cycling.

This is exactly waht I was thinking. So how long was the doping pervasiveness in place? Im gueaaing even longer than in baseball...

 

[Flying V]

I didn't give a hairy rat's butt about cycling before Lance didn't win and I care even less now. Apparently the rules were written in such a way as they allowed doping. Given that normal humans don't approach the levels allowed to start with. So IMO they encouraged it and apparently an awful lot of people got the message. Basically he out doped the other dopers? So what? Just like baseball.

if that was all it was, no one would care.But Lance was standing on the mountain as an example of goodness in sport and he denied this to extreme levels continually, and still does. That should matter to people. Complete orchestrated bold faced lying to everyone SHOULD matter, and to most it does.I care much less about him doping than I do about the extended farce he has pulled off since then.

I don't get your logic. You can't cheat without lying. Lance was just more successful at it than all the other cheaters. If he didn't have the Livestrong thing going on, would you have more respect for him?

 

[El Floppo]

And strange all the people who "dont care" but still feel compelled to post.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

It didn't happen.

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

I didn't give a hairy rat's butt about cycling before Lance didn't win and I care even less now. Apparently the rules were written in such a way as they allowed doping. Given that normal humans don't approach the levels allowed to start with. So IMO they encouraged it and apparently an awful lot of people got the message. Basically he out doped the other dopers? So what? Just like baseball.

if that was all it was, no one would care.But Lance was standing on the mountain as an example of goodness in sport and he denied this to extreme levels continually, and still does. That should matter to people. Complete orchestrated bold faced lying to everyone SHOULD matter, and to most it does.I care much less about him doping than I do about the extended farce he has pulled off since then.

I don't get your logic. You can't cheat without lying. Lance was just more successful at it than all the other cheaters. If he didn't have the Livestrong thing going on, would you have more respect for him?

There was a level of hero worship around Armstrong that exceeded normal sports levels. The cancer was a big part of it. Also, dominating in a sport that Americans haven't generally been successful in. I don't really know the extent to which Armstrong himself was responsible for it, though.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Doping or not, it/was is still pretty incredible.

 

[Jaysus]

Doping or not, it/was is still pretty incredible.

I agree... and to be honest, I prefer my professional athletes on dope

 

[B-Deep]

I didn't give a hairy rat's butt about cycling before Lance didn't win and I care even less now. Apparently the rules were written in such a way as they allowed doping. Given that normal humans don't approach the levels allowed to start with. So IMO they encouraged it and apparently an awful lot of people got the message. Basically he out doped the other dopers? So what? Just like baseball.

if that was all it was, no one would care.But Lance was standing on the mountain as an example of goodness in sport and he denied this to extreme levels continually, and still does. That should matter to people. Complete orchestrated bold faced lying to everyone SHOULD matter, and to most it does.I care much less about him doping than I do about the extended farce he has pulled off since then.

I don't get your logic. You can't cheat without lying. Lance was just more successful at it than all the other cheaters. If he didn't have the Livestrong thing going on, would you have more respect for him?

i have a problem with liars, i have a problem with liars who perpetuate the lie over decades, i have a problem with liars that use intimidation to cover their lie, and i have a problem with liars who lie when everyone knows they lie.Most of all I have a problem that other people don;t have a problem with these things. Lying seems simply an accepted part of modern life.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Doping or not, it/was is still pretty incredible.

Why? Because he had the better scientists working for him than the other guys did?This is the problem with PEDs in sports like cycling. It's one thing in the skill sports like baseball where the impact on performance is arguable and you're still seeing the best of the best. But in sports where you are literally conducting a simple test of strength or endurance, PEDs turn the sport into a science fair. There's no reason to assume Lance's advantage over the field was anything other than a scientific advantage. After all, before he got cancer he never got close to winning the Tour.

 

[pittstownkiller]

Wow. Has there ever been a bigger fall from grace in all of sports? Unbelievable.

I agree, the Tour de France has lost its biggest star and will go back into the shadows of European sports, right behind motorcycle racing. I think they would of been better off of stripping him of some medals but not all.

 

[Arizona Ron]

So they do what? Give it to the second place guys? Because they weren't doping right???

 

[Guest]

Who is the winner of these races now? The second, third and fourth place finishers were probably doping as well. It is a way of life in cycling.

The wins will be vacated. There will be no "winner". Just like vacated MNCs.

 

[NCCommish]

Wow. Has there ever been a bigger fall from grace in all of sports? Unbelievable.

I agree, the Tour de France has lost its biggest star and will go back into the shadows of European sports, right behind motorcycle racing. I think they would of been better off of stripping him of some medals but not all.

Maybe they should only strip him of the titles for races where no one was doping. Oh right there were no such races.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Doping or not, it/was is still pretty incredible.

Why? Because he had the better scientists working for him than the other guys did?This is the problem with PEDs in sports like cycling. It's one thing in the skill sports like baseball where the impact on performance is arguable and you're still seeing the best of the best. But in sports where you are literally conducting a simple test of strength or endurance, PEDs turn the sport into a science fair. There's no reason to assume Lance's advantage over the field was anything other than a scientific advantage. After all, before he got cancer he never got close to winning the Tour.

Because I am pretty sure he is/was not the only one doing it and yet he is the only one to dominate year after year.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Wow. Has there ever been a bigger fall from grace in all of sports? Unbelievable.

I agree, the Tour de France has lost its biggest star and will go back into the shadows of European sports, right behind motorcycle racing. I think they would of been better off of stripping him of some medals but not all.

Maybe they should only strip him of the titles for races where no one was doping. Oh right there were no such races.

Right. That's why your idea was terrible and they need to strip him of all titles regardless of whether and to what extent anyone else might have cheated. Well put.

 

[NCCommish]

I will say I am disappointed because he made a big deal out of being clean in a dirty sport. In fact he made millions off that lie. That is on him and he deserves the fall we are seeing for that. But the doping as part of competition itself seems to be the norm in that sport and as I alluded to earlier that side if it is like baseball

 

[NCCommish]

Wow. Has there ever been a bigger fall from grace in all of sports? Unbelievable.

I agree, the Tour de France has lost its biggest star and will go back into the shadows of European sports, right behind motorcycle racing. I think they would of been better off of stripping him of some medals but not all.

Maybe they should only strip him of the titles for races where no one was doping. Oh right there were no such races.

Right. That's why your idea was terrible and they need to strip him of all titles regardless of whether and to what extent anyone else might have cheated. Well put.

No my idea is fine. If doping is going to cause no one to win then why even bother acknowledging the races happened? Apparently everyone with a few bucks and doctor was doping. What part of the race was fair legal?

 

[TobiasFunke]

I will say I am disappointed because he made a big deal out of being clean in a dirty sport. In fact he made millions off that lie. That is on him and he deserves the fall we are seeing for that. But the doping as part of competition itself seems to be the norm in that sport and as I alluded to earlier that side if it is like baseball

You kind of undersold how disgraceful his behavior was in defending his lie. He didn't just make a big deal of being clean. He publicly slammed and ridiculed anyone who dared to say otherwise. What kind of monstrous ###hole do you have to be to drag otherwise mostly anonymous people into the public spotlight and call them names because they told the truth? I guess probably the same kind of ###hole who starts a "cancer" charity that's mostly dedicated to your own glory and doesn't actually contribute money for cancer research.Sure, everyone else probably doped too. But there are degrees. There's no reason to assume they were on a level playing field, given the stories about how he forced his teammates to dope too. And more generally, the guy is the biggest sleaze in American sports since OJ. There's little question in my mind that whatever anyone was doing to gain a competitive advantage, he was doing it ten times over. He's a total fraud, so giving him a pass because "everyone else does it" lets him off way too easy for my tastes.

 

[Please See Mine]

Wow. Has there ever been a bigger fall from grace in all of sports?

O.J.

Paterno?But I am surprised at bicycle_seat_sniffer's nonchalance about this.

There's a thread about this exact topic.

 

[Please See Mine]

I will say I am disappointed because he made a big deal out of being clean in a dirty sport. In fact he made millions off that lie. That is on him and he deserves the fall we are seeing for that. But the doping as part of competition itself seems to be the norm in that sport and as I alluded to earlier that side if it is like baseball

I think that this is the main story. Yes, the Tour De France and the cycling organization is a joke and hypocritical, so getting on them about this witch hunt is justified.But Armstrong was put up as such a hero and totally cultivated that image and profited from it and denied his involvement at Clemens-like levels. His turning out to be a liar is the bigger story.

 

[Flying V]

I will say I am disappointed because he made a big deal out of being clean in a dirty sport. In fact he made millions off that lie. That is on him and he deserves the fall we are seeing for that. But the doping as part of competition itself seems to be the norm in that sport and as I alluded to earlier that side if it is like baseball

You kind of undersold how disgraceful his behavior was in defending his lie. He didn't just make a big deal of being clean. He publicly slammed and ridiculed anyone who dared to say otherwise. What kind of monstrous ###hole do you have to be to drag otherwise mostly anonymous people into the public spotlight and call them names because they told the truth? I guess probably the same kind of ###hole who starts a "cancer" charity that's mostly dedicated to your own glory and doesn't actually contribute money for cancer research.Sure, everyone else probably doped too. But there are degrees. There's no reason to assume they were on a level playing field, given the stories about how he forced his teammates to dope too. And more generally, the guy is the biggest sleaze in American sports since OJ. There's little question in my mind that whatever anyone was doing to gain a competitive advantage, he was doing it ten times over. He's a total fraud, so giving him a pass because "everyone else does it" lets him off way too easy for my tastes.

That's the part I find most amazing. Usually it is the blackmailer that has the dirt on his victim, not the other way around.

 

[walnutz]

I just finished Tyler Hamilton's book The Secret Race. In it he talks about his time with Postal and riding with Lance. I thought it was a good book. Kind of gives a new picture of Lance. I always knew Lance was a bully but really the guy was just ruthless. Everyone was / is doping in the TDF. Lance took it to a new level. When Tyler was getting close to being in a place where he could beat Lance - Lance called the UCI and ratted Tyler out. Hamilton got called into the UCI HQ. This was right after Hamilton rode away from him on the summit of Ventoux.

My new opinion is - Screw Lance Armstrong. There are other organizations out there that are dedicated to fighting cancer. I will find a new one and give my money there. I am glad they stripped him of his titles. It really doesn't do anything. The only thing that will hurt Lance will be if there is financial damage to him which there has been. Nike, AB and others dropped him. I don't see many other sponsors holding on.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I will say I am disappointed because he made a big deal out of being clean in a dirty sport. In fact he made millions off that lie. That is on him and he deserves the fall we are seeing for that. But the doping as part of competition itself seems to be the norm in that sport and as I alluded to earlier that side if it is like baseball

You kind of undersold how disgraceful his behavior was in defending his lie. He didn't just make a big deal of being clean. He publicly slammed and ridiculed anyone who dared to say otherwise. What kind of monstrous ###hole do you have to be to drag otherwise mostly anonymous people into the public spotlight and call them names because they told the truth? I guess probably the same kind of ###hole who starts a "cancer" charity that's mostly dedicated to your own glory and doesn't actually contribute money for cancer research.Sure, everyone else probably doped too. But there are degrees. There's no reason to assume they were on a level playing field, given the stories about how he forced his teammates to dope too. And more generally, the guy is the biggest sleaze in American sports since OJ. There's little question in my mind that whatever anyone was doing to gain a competitive advantage, he was doing it ten times over. He's a total fraud, so giving him a pass because "everyone else does it" lets him off way too easy for my tastes.

To be honest, OJ did nothing wrong while being 'in American sports'. He probably smacked a ##### up here and there, but nothing to this magnitude. It's what he did after that fame propped him up that's sleaze. Armstrong is bottom the barrel sleaze when it comes to what he did while actually active in sports. And now you couple that with what he did after that sports fame was achieved?

This guy scaled the backs of cancer patients to better himself and his livelihood.

The guy is filth.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I just finished Tyler Hamilton's book The Secret Race. In it he talks about his time with Postal and riding with Lance. I thought it was a good book. Kind of gives a new picture of Lance. I always knew Lance was a bully but really the guy was just ruthless. Everyone was / is doping in the TDF. Lance took it to a new level. When Tyler was getting close to being in a place where he could beat Lance - Lance called the UCI and ratted Tyler out. Hamilton got called into the UCI HQ. This was right after Hamilton rode away from him on the summit of Ventoux.

My new opinion is - Screw Lance Armstrong. There are other organizations out there that are dedicated to fighting cancer. I will find a new one and give my money there. I am glad they stripped him of his titles. It really doesn't do anything. The only thing that will hurt Lance will be if there is financial damage to him which there has been. Nike, AB and others dropped him. I don't see many other sponsors holding on.

Especially since his organization isn't dedicated to fighting cancer.To me this crime is just as bad as his sports fraud. Think of all the people who made charitable donations based on the assumption that they were donating to a cancer charity when they were actually donating to a Lance Armstrong PR charity. That lost time and money that should have gone to cancer research and treatment can't be recovered.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I just finished Tyler Hamilton's book The Secret Race. In it he talks about his time with Postal and riding with Lance. I thought it was a good book. Kind of gives a new picture of Lance. I always knew Lance was a bully but really the guy was just ruthless. Everyone was / is doping in the TDF. Lance took it to a new level. When Tyler was getting close to being in a place where he could beat Lance - Lance called the UCI and ratted Tyler out. Hamilton got called into the UCI HQ. This was right after Hamilton rode away from him on the summit of Ventoux.

My new opinion is - Screw Lance Armstrong. There are other organizations out there that are dedicated to fighting cancer. I will find a new one and give my money there. I am glad they stripped him of his titles. It really doesn't do anything. The only thing that will hurt Lance will be if there is financial damage to him which there has been. Nike, AB and others dropped him. I don't see many other sponsors holding on.

He is of no use to them anymore, they can't run away fast enough.

 

[Flying V]

I didn't give a hairy rat's butt about cycling before Lance didn't win and I care even less now. Apparently the rules were written in such a way as they allowed doping. Given that normal humans don't approach the levels allowed to start with. So IMO they encouraged it and apparently an awful lot of people got the message. Basically he out doped the other dopers? So what? Just like baseball.

if that was all it was, no one would care.But Lance was standing on the mountain as an example of goodness in sport and he denied this to extreme levels continually, and still does. That should matter to people. Complete orchestrated bold faced lying to everyone SHOULD matter, and to most it does.I care much less about him doping than I do about the extended farce he has pulled off since then.

I don't get your logic. You can't cheat without lying. Lance was just more successful at it than all the other cheaters. If he didn't have the Livestrong thing going on, would you have more respect for him?

i have a problem with liars, i have a problem with liars who perpetuate the lie over decades, i have a problem with liars that use intimidation to cover their lie, and i have a problem with liars who lie when everyone knows they lie.Most of all I have a problem that other people don;t have a problem with these things. Lying seems simply an accepted part of modern life.

Oh, I have a problem with liars, but I rank them by how much damage they cause. Madoff is many tiers above Armstrong. I save all my venom for guys like him.

 

[NCCommish]

I will say I am disappointed because he made a big deal out of being clean in a dirty sport. In fact he made millions off that lie. That is on him and he deserves the fall we are seeing for that. But the doping as part of competition itself seems to be the norm in that sport and as I alluded to earlier that side if it is like baseball

You kind of undersold how disgraceful his behavior was in defending his lie. He didn't just make a big deal of being clean. He publicly slammed and ridiculed anyone who dared to say otherwise. What kind of monstrous ###hole do you have to be to drag otherwise mostly anonymous people into the public spotlight and call them names because they told the truth? I guess probably the same kind of ###hole who starts a "cancer" charity that's mostly dedicated to your own glory and doesn't actually contribute money for cancer research.Sure, everyone else probably doped too. But there are degrees. There's no reason to assume they were on a level playing field, given the stories about how he forced his teammates to dope too. And more generally, the guy is the biggest sleaze in American sports since OJ. There's little question in my mind that whatever anyone was doing to gain a competitive advantage, he was doing it ten times over. He's a total fraud, so giving him a pass because "everyone else does it" lets him off way too easy for my tastes.

I'm slamming the whole sport. When you look at what was "acceptable" those levels are unheard of in normal humans. To acheive them without doping would mean they should be studying you genetically. So in essence they basically told everyone to dope. Anyone who wasn't wasn't trying. The sport itself is dirty and has been for a long time. Further you'll forgive me if I don't buy quite every accusation against the evil overlord. A lot of these guys have spent years trying to blame someone else for why they got popped, why they did it and have changed their stories many times.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I didn't give a hairy rat's butt about cycling before Lance didn't win and I care even less now. Apparently the rules were written in such a way as they allowed doping. Given that normal humans don't approach the levels allowed to start with. So IMO they encouraged it and apparently an awful lot of people got the message. Basically he out doped the other dopers? So what? Just like baseball.

if that was all it was, no one would care.But Lance was standing on the mountain as an example of goodness in sport and he denied this to extreme levels continually, and still does. That should matter to people. Complete orchestrated bold faced lying to everyone SHOULD matter, and to most it does.I care much less about him doping than I do about the extended farce he has pulled off since then.

I don't get your logic. You can't cheat without lying. Lance was just more successful at it than all the other cheaters. If he didn't have the Livestrong thing going on, would you have more respect for him?

i have a problem with liars, i have a problem with liars who perpetuate the lie over decades, i have a problem with liars that use intimidation to cover their lie, and i have a problem with liars who lie when everyone knows they lie.Most of all I have a problem that other people don;t have a problem with these things. Lying seems simply an accepted part of modern life.

Oh, I have a problem with liars, but I rank them by how much damage they cause. Madoff is many tiers above Armstrong. I save all my venom for guys like him.

Madoff preyed upon the greedy. You think that's worse than preying upon the sick?

 

[Flying V]

I didn't give a hairy rat's butt about cycling before Lance didn't win and I care even less now. Apparently the rules were written in such a way as they allowed doping. Given that normal humans don't approach the levels allowed to start with. So IMO they encouraged it and apparently an awful lot of people got the message. Basically he out doped the other dopers? So what? Just like baseball.

if that was all it was, no one would care.But Lance was standing on the mountain as an example of goodness in sport and he denied this to extreme levels continually, and still does. That should matter to people. Complete orchestrated bold faced lying to everyone SHOULD matter, and to most it does.

I care much less about him doping than I do about the extended farce he has pulled off since then.

I don't get your logic. You can't cheat without lying. Lance was just more successful at it than all the other cheaters. If he didn't have the Livestrong thing going on, would you have more respect for him?

i have a problem with liars, i have a problem with liars who perpetuate the lie over decades, i have a problem with liars that use intimidation to cover their lie, and i have a problem with liars who lie when everyone knows they lie.Most of all I have a problem that other people don;t have a problem with these things. Lying seems simply an accepted part of modern life.

Oh, I have a problem with liars, but I rank them by how much damage they cause. Madoff is many tiers above Armstrong. I save all my venom for guys like him.

Madoff preyed upon the greedy. You think that's worse than preying upon the sick?

Armstrong took money from the sick? I wasn't aware of that. I thought his foundation was to raise money for them.

 

[squistion]

Wow. Has there ever been a bigger fall from grace in all of sports?

O.J.

Arguably yes, but he is still in the HOF and neither his rushing numbers nor his wins with Buffalo been erased from the record books.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I didn't give a hairy rat's butt about cycling before Lance didn't win and I care even less now. Apparently the rules were written in such a way as they allowed doping. Given that normal humans don't approach the levels allowed to start with. So IMO they encouraged it and apparently an awful lot of people got the message. Basically he out doped the other dopers? So what? Just like baseball.

if that was all it was, no one would care.But Lance was standing on the mountain as an example of goodness in sport and he denied this to extreme levels continually, and still does. That should matter to people. Complete orchestrated bold faced lying to everyone SHOULD matter, and to most it does.

I care much less about him doping than I do about the extended farce he has pulled off since then.

I don't get your logic. You can't cheat without lying. Lance was just more successful at it than all the other cheaters. If he didn't have the Livestrong thing going on, would you have more respect for him?

i have a problem with liars, i have a problem with liars who perpetuate the lie over decades, i have a problem with liars that use intimidation to cover their lie, and i have a problem with liars who lie when everyone knows they lie.Most of all I have a problem that other people don;t have a problem with these things. Lying seems simply an accepted part of modern life.

Oh, I have a problem with liars, but I rank them by how much damage they cause. Madoff is many tiers above Armstrong. I save all my venom for guys like him.

Madoff preyed upon the greedy. You think that's worse than preying upon the sick?

Armstrong took money from the sick? I wasn't aware of that. I thought his foundation was to raise money for them.

Nope. His foundation was mostly there to raise money mostly for his own PR and PR for the for-profit organization by the same name. Here's the full takedown if you care to read it.

 

[joffer]

this just ruins the end of Dodgeball for me

 

[tdoss]

Do his sponsors have the right to demand their money back? They paid for a 7 time winner and clean athlete.

I'm wondering if there's any legal footing in going after the money that was paid to him throughout the years.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Do his sponsors have the right to demand their money back? They paid for a 7 time winner and clean athlete.I'm wondering if there's any legal footing in going after the money that was paid to him throughout the years.

Wheel's already turninghttp://www.cnn.com/2012/10/19/us/lance-armstrong/index.html

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

Do his sponsors have the right to demand their money back? They paid for a 7 time winner and clean athlete.I'm wondering if there's any legal footing in going after the money that was paid to him throughout the years.

Probably depends on what the endorsement contracts said.

 

[Disc Shark]

Dopestrong.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Do his sponsors have the right to demand their money back? They paid for a 7 time winner and clean athlete.I'm wondering if there's any legal footing in going after the money that was paid to him throughout the years.

Wheel's already turninghttp://www.cnn.com/2012/10/19/us/lance-armstrong/index.html

Although this is more about the donors than the sponsors