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Sure it does, Meatwad II. Anyone in charge of executive enforcement and non-enforcement is important. By its very name, which is executory, or execution of the laws. It's not an obvious point, but it's a point. And I'd probably get a bit out my depth, but it would seem important that if you oversee executive agencies, often charged with now making law in a weird hybrid that we've agreed upon since the '30s, that it would be very important.
There's certainly merit to him and I hope he has his say.I think the more America learns about Bernie the more they will like him. Happened to me
Yes!
Sure, and he's light years ahead of anything the republican's are trotting out on their freakshow.
I'm at a loss that -- possibly, and many other smarter people can comment -- that a family's connections abroad have cost so many lives and that they would argue for more to be lost.
He's a self-described socialist, as SID pointed out in another thread. If that means anarcho-socialism, so be it, and I'd be more sympathetic to his actual point. At heart, I have sympathies for the red and black until it winds up in my ####.For the people/citizenry = catchphrase socialist? All for it, if that's the case.
Has anyone espoused turning over all the business to the government?
When I hear stuff like this, I have to admit it sounds bad, and intimate. And it is revolting to me.
I understand the distinction. As far as it filters down to me, Sanders has always described himself as a "socialist" and thus remains an independent member of the American legislature. He also has a radical student past, which I've recently read about and just kind of always assumed. I have trouble with a self-described "socialist" not knowing that socialism means owning the means of production and setting prices, wages, and proscribing labor. I could be dead wrong, but I'm not sure about that. Perhaps he made the distinction and I am unaware. I'm always surprised that anyone would take the "democratic socialist" moniker and then apply it to themselves in such a reductive way.
I enjoy reading about '60s radicals, so I'll check out the platform.
Bernie Sanders is a self-described social democrat.He's a self-described socialist, as SID pointed out in another thread. If that means anarcho-socialism, so be it, and I'd be more sympathetic to his actual point. At heart, I have sympathies for the red and black until it winds up in my ####.For the people/citizenry = catchphrase socialist? All for it, if that's the case.
Has anyone espoused turning over all the business to the government?
But my main thread title stands -- he's that radical. Maybe we need to change Trump's position if Trump's position becomes actual self-identified fascism, though he'd probably lie through his teeth until the death about it.
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Good enough for you?Bernie Sanders is a self-described social democrat.He's a self-described socialist, as SID pointed out in another thread. If that means anarcho-socialism, so be it, and I'd be more sympathetic to his actual point. At heart, I have sympathies for the red and black until it winds up in my ####.For the people/citizenry = catchphrase socialist? All for it, if that's the case.
Has anyone espoused turning over all the business to the government?
But my main thread title stands -- he's that radical. Maybe we need to change Trump's position if Trump's position becomes actual self-identified fascism, though he'd probably lie through his teeth until the death about it.
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No. But this should really be let go this morning. I do these things late at night to kill time. The Bernie Sanders thread is probably a good place for these things, as bananafish mentioned above.dickey moe said:Good enough for you?Todd Andrews said:Bernie Sanders is a self-described social democrat.rockaction said:He's a self-described socialist, as SID pointed out in another thread. If that means anarcho-socialism, so be it, and I'd be more sympathetic to his actual point. At heart, I have sympathies for the red and black until it winds up in my ####.BigSteelThrill said:For the people/citizenry = catchphrase socialist? All for it, if that's the case.
Has anyone espoused turning over all the business to the government?
But my main thread title stands -- he's that radical. Maybe we need to change Trump's position if Trump's position becomes actual self-identified fascism, though he'd probably lie through his teeth until the death about it.
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Heh. I'm still waiting -- and have been for what seems like a lifelong eternity -- to see if anybody can answer me how central planning and the conscription of labor means freedom.
He does. And he doesn't identify as a social democrat, he identifies as a democratic socialist. Specifically. And repeatedly. See the link in post #33.
Don't care. This guy calls himself a socialist. I know what the hell a democratic socialist is. He wants to own the means of production at a state level. This is an extreme position -- much more extreme than Republicans, which is what this thread is about.
Yeah, I do.
Has he really said anything remotely like that? I don't think so, but I'm open to some links to his quotes on that if you got them.
That's an ad hominem about the alcohol, and doesn't address anything about a happily extreme socialist candidate being revered as an avuncular figure by the media while the Republicans catch hell for their "extreme" positions on intimate issues.
No, I am a Jim Webb supporter.dickey moe said:Good enough for you?Todd Andrews said:Bernie Sanders is a self-described social democrat.rockaction said:He's a self-described socialist, as SID pointed out in another thread. If that means anarcho-socialism, so be it, and I'd be more sympathetic to his actual point. At heart, I have sympathies for the red and black until it winds up in my ####.BigSteelThrill said:For the people/citizenry = catchphrase socialist? All for it, if that's the case.
Has anyone espoused turning over all the business to the government?
But my main thread title stands -- he's that radical. Maybe we need to change Trump's position if Trump's position becomes actual self-identified fascism, though he'd probably lie through his teeth until the death about it.
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Nearly every politically contentious article I read these days has a comment section filled with Democrats gleefully yearning for the rapid demise of older white men.
You want to hear what Republicans sound like in comment sections?
I linked in post #33 and to the WSJ article, which is now sadly behind a pay wall (it wasn't before.)
