Captain Quinoa
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Just heard on Cleveland radio. Something like 5/$25. Haven't found link yet.
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Laurent Robinson - Jacksonville (1 Viewer)
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B Maverick
Footballguy
Austin and Dez value up
Laurent down
Laurent down
Shutout
Footballguy
I think most owners would rather have him where he was in Dallas as a 3rd or 4th option than in Jax as a 1.
az_prof
Footballguy
Wow. I remember in 98 when Moss had that huge season and the Vikings went from an average team to a 15-1 team. There was talk then about whether or not a team needed an elite, game changing WR. The old wisdom was that WRs were secondary players and easily replaceable. You needed a QB, a RB, an OL, a pass rushing DE, and a run stopping MLB. Those were the most important positions. Now...it seems like the recent rule changes have really ramped up the importance of passing and we are starting to see the market reflect that.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Garçon's contract looks much better now, and I didn't hate it before.
MAC_32
Footballguy
My Morgan vs. Laurent decision just got a lot easier.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Henne just signed I think; I think Henne could at least get him the ball.Blaine Gabbert or maybe Tim Tebow...not liking the upside in Jax.
chasyone
Footballguy
now he will draw the other teams best corner.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Henne just signed I think; I think Henne could at least get him the ball.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
Glad that the guy got his nice pay day for one season worth of work on a pass first team with no defense that was ALWAYS playing from behind.
He may not even sniff 11 TD the rest of his career combined.
He may not even sniff 11 TD the rest of his career combined.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
I think LRob is a fine #3, able to beat nickel backs and look really good when guys named Dez, Miles, and Jason are taking the defensive coverage... as a #1, he'll just get himself knocked around by dbl-teams and hurt -- as usual.
But hey, what's $32 mil? Chump change. Who needs to buy defense anyway?
Gene Smith is one of the 2-3 worst GMs in the league, and the new owner is too new and clueless at this point to realize it. Carry on Jags, carry on!
But hey, what's $32 mil? Chump change. Who needs to buy defense anyway?
Gene Smith is one of the 2-3 worst GMs in the league, and the new owner is too new and clueless at this point to realize it. Carry on Jags, carry on!
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cstu
Footballguy
Great signing to get the team moved to LA. I'm sure there are more average players they can overpay and speed up the process.
cstu
Footballguy
It's amazing that a little over 6 months ago he was getting blasted by Chargers fans who saw nothing but speed and thought he was a bum.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
This is great news for Dez and Miles owners though.
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
What did you get for LROB?
bonesman
Footballguy
not sure how it translates to other leagues, but in a 16 team contract league with PPR for TE (.5 WR, .25 RB).... I got G. Olsen with 4 years (max of 5) and a pretty favorable salary (1.2 mill/45 mill)... for Lrob who only had 1 year with a .5 mill salary... and about the 30th rookie pick. With a big hole at TE this was a good deal for me. I offered the same deal but w/ Ridley instead of the 2nd a week or two prior.
I think going to Jax really downgrades Robinson. The TEAM had only one more passing TD than he did last season (12 vs 11)
I think going to Jax really downgrades Robinson. The TEAM had only one more passing TD than he did last season (12 vs 11)
Mr. Mojo
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Sabertooth
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I'm glad he got his payday too because he's always been a hard worker and finally got a chance to show his potential. He played every bit as good or better than Dez or Miles in Dallas.But getting back to Texasmouth's comment, Laurent's splits show the followingWhen tied or ahead he had:45 targets30 receptions409 yards5 touchdownsWhen trailing he had:35 targets24 catches439 yards6 touchdownsSo the assertion that he made ALL of his hay while trailing is faulty right from the start. Also, Jacksonville's defense only gave up 1 PPG less than Dallas' last season so the point of that whole post is kind of out the window.
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inzanitee
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I'm not so sure he vanishes into oblivion the way people are predicting. He's a good player *if* healthy.I'm glad he got his payday too because he's always been a hard worker and finally got a chance to show his potential. He played every bit as good or better than Dez or Miles in Dallas.
Sabertooth
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After watching Sam Hurd, Roy Williams, Ogletree, and countless others washout in that role, it was pretty indicative of his talen for him to step in and make the plays he did.I'm not so sure he vanishes into oblivion the way people are predicting. He's a good player *if* healthy.I'm glad he got his payday too because he's always been a hard worker and finally got a chance to show his potential. He played every bit as good or better than Dez or Miles in Dallas.
JaxBill
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Let's see where to begin
- Did the Jags overpay for Robinson? Yeah, probably but it was a seller's market at WR. The fact is, even an average WR is a major upgrade for this WR corp. Mike Thomas is an okay #3 WR but the rest of the group needs to be smothered and scattered.
- Gabbert / Tebow - This whole Tebow to Jags has almost zero chance of happening. Yeah Khan made his remarks but he has to realize that using his picks to help out a young QB struggling in the passing game is better than using those picks to pick up another young QB struggling in the passing game. Multiple writers have tweeted that Gene Smith and the Jags front office has no interest in Tebow. Was Gabbert scared at times in the pocket? Yes, in particular Houston's rush was so fierce that I was glad Gabbert got pulled just for his own safety. I thought he showed a little better poise the last few games of the year, That said, he was set up to fail last year with no WRs, avg at best OL, a TE dropping the ball, no OTAs, and a lame-duck coaching staff. We'll see what he does this year. I just want to see some progress, not expecting him to put up great numbers.
- Jags Defense - Jags actually had a Top 5 defense before they starting losing TEN defensive backs to injury and still ended up with a Top 10 defense. They re-signed critical FAs Mincey, Lowery, and Mathis. So they should at least be able to stay in some games.
- Did the Jags overpay for Robinson? Yeah, probably but it was a seller's market at WR. The fact is, even an average WR is a major upgrade for this WR corp. Mike Thomas is an okay #3 WR but the rest of the group needs to be smothered and scattered.
- Gabbert / Tebow - This whole Tebow to Jags has almost zero chance of happening. Yeah Khan made his remarks but he has to realize that using his picks to help out a young QB struggling in the passing game is better than using those picks to pick up another young QB struggling in the passing game. Multiple writers have tweeted that Gene Smith and the Jags front office has no interest in Tebow. Was Gabbert scared at times in the pocket? Yes, in particular Houston's rush was so fierce that I was glad Gabbert got pulled just for his own safety. I thought he showed a little better poise the last few games of the year, That said, he was set up to fail last year with no WRs, avg at best OL, a TE dropping the ball, no OTAs, and a lame-duck coaching staff. We'll see what he does this year. I just want to see some progress, not expecting him to put up great numbers.
- Jags Defense - Jags actually had a Top 5 defense before they starting losing TEN defensive backs to injury and still ended up with a Top 10 defense. They re-signed critical FAs Mincey, Lowery, and Mathis. So they should at least be able to stay in some games.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
This poor guy has had season ending injuries for almost every year of his career except last year with Dallas, if I recall correctly...
cstu
Footballguy
I'm not going to cry for a guy who got $13.8M guarantee off of one good year.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Bigger FA bust -- Meachem or Laurent?
You don't make reserve talents into your #1 WR's.
You don't make reserve talents into your #1 WR's.
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lod01
Footballguy
Now that's a toss up.
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
Robinson had Gabbert throwing his way...Meachem had Rivers throwing his way...Pick your poison
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
Not his fault the Jags gave him that.. to be fair he played for the Rams and was an afterthought on the Falcons early in his career. He's a decent WR
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Robinson made over $11 mil this year alone. (Guaranteed $13 mil)
Meachem will be back next year in SD because his $5 mil base salary is guaranteed. ($14 mil guaranteed ...while street FA Alexander is lighting it up)
Just amazing to me how badly the front office's botched the structure of these deals. With so much up front & guaranteed monies with these 2.
And yet, the Packers will pay Jordy Nelson under $14 mil total over 4 years. (Re-signed Oct 2011)
Meachem will be back next year in SD because his $5 mil base salary is guaranteed. ($14 mil guaranteed ...while street FA Alexander is lighting it up)
Just amazing to me how badly the front office's botched the structure of these deals. With so much up front & guaranteed monies with these 2.
And yet, the Packers will pay Jordy Nelson under $14 mil total over 4 years. (Re-signed Oct 2011)
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
^ cant fault the guy for playing well when it counted most financially. What WR is going to go to the Jaguars without being over payed?
I'd also bet Nelson would like rethink the deal he agreed to last October because I guarantee his agent comes calling sometime next year for a big contract extension.
I'd also bet Nelson would like rethink the deal he agreed to last October because I guarantee his agent comes calling sometime next year for a big contract extension.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
^You overpay them through the structure of the contracts.
Make it nice and pretty like Antonio Brown's and backload it.
I give Meachem's and Robinson's agents credit.
Make it nice and pretty like Antonio Brown's and backload it.
I give Meachem's and Robinson's agents credit.
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ThePittbully
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Yea the guy has talent, just cannot ever stay healthy. I cut him today in a dynasty for Edelman. I just can't see him every staying on the field, and guys with multiple concussions in a short period of time have not had a great track record of coming back lately.
Speculation that his career could be over due to multiple concussions over a short time span:
Coach Mike Mularkey admitted that he doesn't know if Laurent Robinson (IR, concussions) will play again.
Robinson has sustained four concussions in the last four months. The career of Jags LB Clint Session is likely over due to a similar string of blows to the head. "Each guy is different," Mularkey said. "Hopefully Laurent can come back from it, but I don't know. Clint hasn't yet." Robinson is owed $2.6 million in base salary in 2013.
Source: Florida Times Union Nov 22 - 9:42 AM
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4241/laurent-robinson
Coach Mike Mularkey admitted that he doesn't know if Laurent Robinson (IR, concussions) will play again.
Robinson has sustained four concussions in the last four months. The career of Jags LB Clint Session is likely over due to a similar string of blows to the head. "Each guy is different," Mularkey said. "Hopefully Laurent can come back from it, but I don't know. Clint hasn't yet." Robinson is owed $2.6 million in base salary in 2013.
Source: Florida Times Union Nov 22 - 9:42 AM
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4241/laurent-robinson
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
You think they might have considered shutting him down for the year at concussion 3 no? Sad, great player, just never could stay healthy.
Wadsworth
Footballguy
Meachem is a healthy bust. Robinson has looked decent in limited time but has battled 4 concussions. I don't think it is a reasonable comparison.Robinson by week:1. 5 for 662. 3 for 493. Injured4. Comes back and catches 1 for 19 before getting re-injured.5. out6. BYE7. out8. out9. 6 for 4110. 9 for 7711. Injured, IRWhen healthy he was decent, especially when you consider the poor production of that offense as a whole.
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