My 10 team league (redraft, standard scoring) has changed from QB TD pass = 6pts from 4pts. Any thoughts to strategy change? I generally wait until mid to late mid rounds for my first qb and load up on RBs/WRs. Howver, not sure how much that should change based on this or if my strategy might play out even better now with teams jumping for QBs early while i stack up on WR/RB. Thoughts? What is the "last" qb you would take and be confortable with with 6pt scoring? Thanks everyobne.
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League scoring QB TD pass 6pts vs. 4pts (1 Viewer)
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redBourne
Footballguy
I don't think this changes things too much. Yes, QB's will score 40 (20 tds) to 60 (30 tds) more points than they would have, but all QBs are on that scoring system. So if QB1 throws 30 and QB6 throws 24, that's a difference of 12 pts over the year. In 16 games, that's .75 pts a week. If you don't make playoffs, it's still averaging out to just under 1 pt a week. I wouldn't move QB's up your draft board at all.
However, if your league is QB hungry you don't want to be stuck with a super sleeper for your starting QB (see Alex Smith). Having the best RB/WR core in the league does nothing if you can't start them.
However, if your league is QB hungry you don't want to be stuck with a super sleeper for your starting QB (see Alex Smith). Having the best RB/WR core in the league does nothing if you can't start them.
Agreed, Eagle, but by doing that I can also have great chips to trade with. Gonna be much easier to trade for a QB than a RB/WR if I have a lot of depth at the positions. I generally like to load up through the middle rounds on WR/RB to catch a sleeper and to also get some depth for trading.
Good thoughts though and good to know about that math (though i didnt check it
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Good thoughts though and good to know about that math (though i didnt check it
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rzrback77
Footballguy
I think that due to increased passing in the past few years that the pool of potential 3,000 yard passers is much deeper than it has been. Addin that your league has changed the scoring rule for QBs, I would suspect that your league mates will move much quicker on QBs. If you have previously been one of the last guys to get one and you keep that strategy, then you should be rewarded as more QBs will go earlier allowing value at other positions to slip/ Just determine ahead of hte draft who you would be satisfied with at QB and be prepared to act when needed.
Good Luck!
Good Luck!
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Yours is a very shallow league - I would be glad to roll with projected QB#10 (maybe even backing him up with Roethliberger) and being better at RB/WR/TE.....stick to the plan
redBourne
Footballguy
Oh, absolutely. I was just trying to reinforce that every draft is different and your original strategies hardly ever work out. My leagues don't usually have much trading, and as such runs on positions influence the decisions of other owners more so than other leagues were you can trade around more often. Good luck!Agreed, Eagle, but by doing that I can also have great chips to trade with. Gonna be much easier to trade for a QB than a RB/WR if I have a lot of depth at the positions. I generally like to load up through the middle rounds on WR/RB to catch a sleeper and to also get some depth for trading.Good thoughts though and good to know about that math (though i didnt check it)
So been reading that most dont think the QB spot is that deep this year. Many appear to be of the belief that there are more gambles than usual as you go down the list. Is the #10ish-12ish QB spot (obviously that will vary site to site) pretty much the last spot you would want to draft your #1 from and still feel as though he may not flop?
-jb-
Footballguy
I've always done well by waiting on QB, but am reticent to do so this year. I think you have Brees, Manning, Rodgers, Romo, Brady, Schaub, Rivers, Favre in whatever order you want them in, followed by a cliff down to Cutler and Eli. I'm usually the last guy, or close to it, to pick a QB but am now looking at moving the needle to around 6-8. That's approximately one round earlier than I would normally pull the trigger, but it will cost me at least two rounds to get the guy I want (Romo). Perhaps I just need to research the position a little more than I have so far. Kolb is definitely intriguing, but everyone else seems to offer little in terms of upside.
I ALWAYS wait too. I have never drafted a QB in this league earlier than the 7th round or so. Since I am the last one to draft my starter, 10 or 11 QBs have generally already fallen. At that point, i might as well wait to the later rounds until the backup qbs are about to go. I havent studied the QBs that much this year, but I find that there usually a few WW QBs you can pick up too and plug in if need be. I think part of my problem is that i just dont value the position that much after the top ones go and I NEVER get the top ones.
Marked
Footballguy
I compared FBG 160 Cheatsheet Perf v1 (4pts) and Perf v2 (6pts) using 1/2/3/1/1/1.
Top QBs ranked (overall):
Perf v1: 09, 10, 12, 15, 24, 35 & 46
Perf v2: 06, 07, 08, 12, 19, 27 & 42
Intitially you would think there would be a larger shift. But if you take into account in VBD that in both cases the baseline QB = 13 (E. Manning), even though QBs score "more" in Perf v2 they are all adjusted against QB#13 whose VBD value = 0. It's practically a wash, a shift of about 1/2 a round.
However, that does not factor in how your league drafts or will react to the new rule. ADP are misleading often because most are based on a myriad of scoring systems, number of teams and team sizes. What should happen and what will happen can be (and probably will be) quite different.
The last QB I would be comfortable with is the same in either case. In the above comparison QB 7 (46/42) is Rivers. After that comes Cutler, Kolb, Favre, Eli, Ryan, Flacco & McNabb.
No thanks, not for QB#1, not for me. Now if your going QBBC that's a different animal.
