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Lets Make Some Money - WEEK 1 FANDUEL PICKS (1 Viewer)

'Red Herring said:
I love flip flopping them around... As for TE, I don't think you can afford not to have a graham/gronk, maybe AHern or Gates depending on matchup. ITs just too big an advantage to give away
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This. Spend the money on a premium TE each week.
 
'eoMMan said:
'Red Herring said:
I love flip flopping them around... As for TE, I don't think you can afford not to have a graham/gronk, maybe AHern or Gates depending on matchup. ITs just too big an advantage to give away
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This. Spend the money on a premium TE each week.
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Its all relative. Spend big money in a TE and you really need to find value at WR3. Bottom line is to try to outscore your opponents entire starting lineup, not individual positions.
 
'Wingnut said:
'eoMMan said:
'Red Herring said:
I love flip flopping them around... As for TE, I don't think you can afford not to have a graham/gronk, maybe AHern or Gates depending on matchup. ITs just too big an advantage to give away
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This. Spend the money on a premium TE each week.
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Its all relative. Spend big money in a TE and you really need to find value at WR3. Bottom line is to try to outscore your opponents entire starting lineup, not individual positions.
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Therein lies the rub. You can find value at WR3, but there really isn't any value at TE. EG this week: Garcon & lloyd @ 6000, Wayne @ 6300, Harvin @ 6600, Thomas @ 6700, & Smiff @ 6800 all have a great shot (IMHO) at high WR1 #s (lets call that top 6) and out-scoring their top 6-8 (the 7k and above club) this week. However, looking at TE, who is a value pick with a great chance at outpointing you if you take one of those top 4 (6400-7500), or especially the top 2? The only one I see this week is Gonzo @ 5400, and I'm not personally awful confident in that one.
 
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I an expert league, deciding btw

AJ Green and TE Chandler

Vrs

Stevie Johnson and TE Hernandez

I have the former locked in currently. A lot harder finding WR3 in the expert league.

RG3

Spiller, Ridley

Green, Wayne, Decker

Chandler

 
'Red Herring said:
'Wingnut said:
'eoMMan said:
'Red Herring said:
I love flip flopping them around... As for TE, I don't think you can afford not to have a graham/gronk, maybe AHern or Gates depending on matchup. ITs just too big an advantage to give away
Click to expand...
This. Spend the money on a premium TE each week.
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Its all relative. Spend big money in a TE and you really need to find value at WR3. Bottom line is to try to outscore your opponents entire starting lineup, not individual positions.
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Therein lies the rub. You can find value at WR3, but there really isn't any value at TE. EG this week: Garcon & lloyd @ 6000, Wayne @ 6300, Harvin @ 6600, Thomas @ 6700, & Smiff @ 6800 all have a great shot (IMHO) at high WR1 #s (lets call that top 6) and out-scoring their top 6-8 (the 7k and above club) this week. However, looking at TE, who is a value pick with a great chance at outpointing you if you take one of those top 4 (6400-7500), or especially the top 2? The only one I see this week is Gonzo @ 5400, and I'm not personally awful confident in that one.
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I 100% agree with this but am going with Cook on one of my teams. I just..have that feeling.
 
'BigA said:
'eoMMan said:
Do you guys play the exact same line-up multiple times or do you switch it up with different combinations?
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Wondering this myself.
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It was my first week at this last week and I played a few different lineups to see what tended to work. Granted it was a small smaple size, but my week 1 conclusions were: Don't get killed at QB, but you don't need to invest heavily. Getting a very good QB with a good matchup at value $$ lets you spend on other positions with more variance in stats from the studs to the almost studs.Trying to find too much value at RB can hurt. I had the best results with picking one "cant miss stud," either DMac or Rice last week, and pairing them with my favorite value play, which happened to be KSmith. Invest heavy at WR. There are very few "cant miss studs" at wide receiver and even those few can throw up duds, its just the nature of the position. I had the best results when I played at least 1 stud (last week it was Julio at a criminal 7200), 1 near stud with a good to great matchup at good value (Marshall at 6800 was also insanely good), and the best value i thought would be in the top 6-8 (harvin last week). I tried getting cute with some deeper values i thought had at least a 50/50 shot at that top tier, namely Lloyd and torrey smith, and got burned a couple times because of it.Get a top TE, period. Only Pitta, Gonzo, Lewis, H Miller, Tamme, and the Black Unicorn even got close to the top 4's production, with Gates dropping out of that group due to another injury. Of those 6, I'd only take Gonzo in very good TE matchups to match with the top guys, as I don't trust the other 5 to produce like that consistently. From this point on for me, its either Graham or Gronk, maybe Hernandez if I really need the $ for a player I really feel strongly about. Kicker is kicker. I'm going with the 5k kicker thats highest on Herman's list, and it helps me save money elsewhere. Its the last place I'll put leftover money too.D/St is worth a bit, but you dont need a top option here. I can easily find a 5k defense with a good matchup, and use any $ left over from skill positions to upgrade D/ST if its available (last week that equaled HOU, this week its NE)the 50/50's seem to be the easiest to "win," I didn't "lose" a single one. head to head were also all wins. I had mixed results in larger leagues and no luck in the tourney style games, mainly due to going with lloyd, torrey, gates. I had the most success going with the lineup I thought was strongest, and had more problems when I tried hedging, getting cute, or going boom/bust for the tourneys. This week I'm sticking with the strongest lineup I can put together, though I may go slightly safer when playing 50/50s, just because of how easy it seems to be to place in them.
 
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'Red Herring said:
'Wingnut said:
'eoMMan said:
'Red Herring said:
I love flip flopping them around... As for TE, I don't think you can afford not to have a graham/gronk, maybe AHern or Gates depending on matchup. ITs just too big an advantage to give away
Click to expand...
This. Spend the money on a premium TE each week.
Click to expand...
Its all relative. Spend big money in a TE and you really need to find value at WR3. Bottom line is to try to outscore your opponents entire starting lineup, not individual positions.
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Therein lies the rub. You can find value at WR3, but there really isn't any value at TE. EG this week: Garcon & lloyd @ 6000, Wayne @ 6300, Harvin @ 6600, Thomas @ 6700, & Smiff @ 6800 all have a great shot (IMHO) at high WR1 #s (lets call that top 6) and out-scoring their top 6-8 (the 7k and above club) this week.

However, looking at TE, who is a value pick with a great chance at outpointing you if you take one of those top 4 (6400-7500), or especially the top 2? The only one I see this week is Gonzo @ 5400, and I'm not personally awful confident in that one.
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I get what youre saying here, but lets look at 2 made up rosters - one with a value WR3, and one with a value TE. Team one players are in my lineup this week, team 2 was picked based on what a starting lineup might have looked like last week using the Stud TE/value WR3 strategy.Team one:

A Johnson ($7500)

V Cruz ($7000)

R Wayne ($6300)

Pettigrew ($5700, the #7 TE, which I consider to be a "value" TE pick)

Cost: $26,500

Team two:

Calvin Johnson ($8400)

Fitz ($7700)

S Holmes ($5700)

Gronk ($7500)

Cost: $29,300

Team one scored 59 points, team 2 scored 45 in week one. Will team 1 outscore team 2 in week two? Maybe, maybe not. Im not saying it will always happen that way, just that it can and does sometimes.

You could swap out Holmes for players like S Rice, DeSean Jackson, Decker, (all cost more than Holmes) and still have less points than team one (and yes, you could probably pick a few that cost less than Holmes that scored nice, but no names jumped out at me on the list below him that I would have felt comfy as my WR3.)

Now, its just as easy to throw out a bunch of different players to prove the exact opposite - It all depends on the week and how it plays out. My point is both strategies do in fact work, and neither way has an advantage over the other, IMO. Its hit and miss as to which strategy will work any given week, so I just go by my gut feeling and dont stick to one strategy or the other.

 
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'Wingnut said:
'Red Herring said:
'Wingnut said:
'eoMMan said:
'Red Herring said:
I love flip flopping them around... As for TE, I don't think you can afford not to have a graham/gronk, maybe AHern or Gates depending on matchup. ITs just too big an advantage to give away
Click to expand...
This. Spend the money on a premium TE each week.
Click to expand...
Its all relative. Spend big money in a TE and you really need to find value at WR3. Bottom line is to try to outscore your opponents entire starting lineup, not individual positions.
Click to expand...
Therein lies the rub. You can find value at WR3, but there really isn't any value at TE. EG this week: Garcon & lloyd @ 6000, Wayne @ 6300, Harvin @ 6600, Thomas @ 6700, & Smiff @ 6800 all have a great shot (IMHO) at high WR1 #s (lets call that top 6) and out-scoring their top 6-8 (the 7k and above club) this week.

However, looking at TE, who is a value pick with a great chance at outpointing you if you take one of those top 4 (6400-7500), or especially the top 2? The only one I see this week is Gonzo @ 5400, and I'm not personally awful confident in that one.
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I get what youre saying here, but lets look at 2 made up rosters - one with a value WR3, and one with a value TE. Team one players are in my lineup this week, team 2 was picked based on what a starting lineup might have looked like last week using the Stud TE/value WR3 strategy.Team one:

A Johnson ($7500)

V Cruz ($7000)

R Wayne ($6300)

Pettigrew ($5700, the #7 TE, which I consider to be a "value" TE pick)

Cost: $26,500

Team two:

Calvin Johnson ($8400)

Fitz ($7700)

S Holmes ($5700)

Gronk ($7500)

Cost: $29,300

Team one scored 59 points, team 2 scored 45 in week one. Will team 1 outscore team 2 in week two? Maybe, maybe not. Im not saying it will always happen that way, just that it can and does sometimes.

You could swap out Holmes for players like S Rice, DeSean Jackson, Decker, (all cost more than Holmes) and still have less points than team one (and yes, you could probably pick a few that cost less than Holmes that scored nice, but no names jumped out at me on the list below him that I would have felt comfy as my WR3.)

Now, its just as easy to throw out a bunch of different players to prove the exact opposite - It all depends on the week and how it plays out. My point is both strategies do in fact work, and neither way has an advantage over the other, IMO. Its hit and miss as to which strategy will work any given week, so I just go by my gut feeling and dont stick to one strategy or the other.
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Definitely another good strategy. I just see there being less of the hit or miss aspect to having graham gronk, as they seem to "get theirs" no matter what. Loving this discussion though. :thumbup: FTR, i was going with a Harvin/Marshall/Julio/graham which cost 27,800 and scored 61.6 and as mentioned in my tl;dr post above, the few times I substituted Torrey or Lloyd for Harvin and Gates for Graham, I got burned. So some of my feelings may be reaction to last week as well.

ETA: I think both strategies depend on where we think we best identify value. I'm much more comfortable picking a value WR3 i think will produce top numbers than a TE that can hang with the top 2. But you seem to be comfortable with your ability to pick the right TE value for the week than I am, likely making that the better strategy for you.

 
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I dunno if im in the minority but I think the strategy of rostering value WRs isnt as good as rostering value RBs and stud WRs.

BJGE (6.1k)

Ridley (5.9k)

Also, avoid the Thursday games like a plague.

 
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Reminder. If you play the 1pm games only then you can enter the "prime time specials" which are the sun mon and next weeks thur games. Pretty fun.

Also in total agreement on the TE. I looked through a 50 team 50/50 and 23 of the winners had graham gronk or Hernandez

 
'shader said:
Reminder. If you play the 1pm games only then you can enter the "prime time specials" which are the sun mon and next weeks thur games. Pretty fun.Also in total agreement on the TE. I looked through a 50 team 50/50 and 23 of the winners had graham gronk or Hernandez
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last week I won a couple of Monday/Thursday games. Good stuff
 
Week 2. After what RGIII did to the Saints I have to take Cam. Bush is a steal.

QB Cam NewtonNO@CAR$9,000

RB Reggie BushOAK@MIA$6,400

RB C.J. SpillerKC@BUF$6,600

WR Percy HarvinMIN@IND$6,600

WR Victor CruzTB@NYG$7,000

WR Reggie WayneMIN@IND$6,300

TE Jimmy GrahamNO@CAR$7,400

K David AkersDET@SF$5,500

D Cincinnati BengalsCLE@CIN $5,000

 
Changed lineups a bunch of times. Need Ponder @Ind to have a decent game relative to the top guys. Went with Ponder as a value, strong at WR/TE, and value at RB. Bengals D could be big...

Here's my 60k cap entry:

QB

Christian Ponder

RB

C.J. Spiller

Darren McFadden

WR

Julio Jones

Larry Fitzgerald

Percy Harvin

TE

Jimmy Graham

K

Nate Kaeding

D

Cincinnati Bengals

And here's my 55k cap entry (experts):

QB

Christian Ponder

RB

C.J. Spiller

Doug Martin

WR

Demaryius Thomas

Percy Harvin

Reggie Wayne

TE

Aaron Hernandez

K

Nate Kaeding

D

Cincinnati Bengals

 
Didnt start spiller in any of my rosters, have never been impressed by him - until today. Running just as well as FJax.

Most of my rosters:

QB: RG3

RB: BJGE, A. Morris

WR: Megatron, Julio, A. Johnson

TE: J. Graham

K: Kaeding

D/ST: Bengals/Skins

 
All last season I had either Graham or Gronk. Today in half of my games I went with Hernandez :cry:

my FBG lineup

QB

Cam Newton

CAR v NO (In progress)

RB

C.J. Spiller

BUF v KC (In progress)

RB

Stevan Ridley

NE v ARI (In progress)

WR

A.J. Green

CIN v CLE (In progress)

WR

Percy Harvin

MIN @ IND (In progress)

WR

Julio Jones

ATL v DEN (Pre-game)

TE

Aaron Hernandez

NE v ARI (In progress)

K

Matt Bryant

ATL v DEN (Pre-game)

D

New England Patriots

NE v ARI (In progress)

 
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'ShaHBucks said:
Week 2. After what RGIII did to the Saints I have to take Cam. Bush is a steal.QB Cam NewtonNO@CAR$9,000RB Reggie BushOAK@MIA$6,400RB C.J. SpillerKC@BUF$6,600WR Percy HarvinMIN@IND$6,600WR Victor CruzTB@NYG$7,000WR Reggie WayneMIN@IND$6,300TE Jimmy GrahamNO@CAR$7,400K David AkersDET@SF$5,500D Cincinnati BengalsCLE@CIN $5,000
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1/276 right now :boxing:
 
'ShaHBucks said:
'ShaHBucks said:
Week 2. After what RGIII did to the Saints I have to take Cam. Bush is a steal.QB Cam NewtonNO@CAR$9,000RB Reggie BushOAK@MIA$6,400RB C.J. SpillerKC@BUF$6,600WR Percy HarvinMIN@IND$6,600WR Victor CruzTB@NYG$7,000WR Reggie WayneMIN@IND$6,300TE Jimmy GrahamNO@CAR$7,400K David AkersDET@SF$5,500D Cincinnati BengalsCLE@CIN $5,000
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1/276 right now :boxing:
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You should have done the FBG freeroll. You probably would have taken first and a free entry into $15,000 week 16 contest. I just moved into 22 with Alex Smith going right now. Free $$$
 
Finished 15/100 in the 1pm $10 one. Top 13 pay :thumbdown:

Sitting in good shape in my others

2/10 in $50, 50/50 Expert with Decker to go.

51/557 in $10 one with J Jones still to go. Top 55 pay

6/50 in $5, 50/50 with J Jones also

 
I'll be doubling up or better on fanduel but getting totally cleaned out on draftstreet unless Decker blows up for like 30 points.

edit - Actually, the rake on fanduel is keeping me well under doubling up.

 
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'turfman said:
'ShaHBucks said:
'ShaHBucks said:
Week 2. After what RGIII did to the Saints I have to take Cam. Bush is a steal.QB Cam NewtonNO@CAR$9,000RB Reggie BushOAK@MIA$6,400RB C.J. SpillerKC@BUF$6,600WR Percy HarvinMIN@IND$6,600WR Victor CruzTB@NYG$7,000WR Reggie WayneMIN@IND$6,300TE Jimmy GrahamNO@CAR$7,400K David AkersDET@SF$5,500D Cincinnati BengalsCLE@CIN $5,000
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1/276 right now :boxing:
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You should have done the FBG freeroll. You probably would have taken first and a free entry into $15,000 week 16 contest. I just moved into 22 with Alex Smith going right now. Free $$$
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I'm not even a subscriber. I did a few freerolls from other sites, none as good as FBG's though. damGood luck with Smith!
 
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After a good week last week, I struck out on all my leagues this week.

Starting McFadden and Marshall in nearly all of them will do that for you...

 
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