LHUCKS' 2006 QB Rankings (1 Viewer)

[LHUCKS]

I post my rankings every year prior to the season kickoff due to numerous requests. I also obviously enjoy the strategy discussion. This year I’m creating a separate thread for each position as I’m adding my basic strategy for each of the positions.

Some points to consider when taking a look at these rankings.

a) These are rankings based on where I’d draft players, not projection rankings like what FBG puts out. Most people requesting my rankings want to know the order in which I’d draft players. These rankings are vastly different than my projection rankings as I put an increased emphasis on ppg and playoff schedule.

b) Rankings are based on the WCOFF scoring format, but are not based on the WCOFF playoff format. I put emphasis on weeks 14-16 for playoffs. Basic WCOFF format is PPR, flex RB/WR position, deep roster, H2H.

c) Rankings are for expert/veteran leagues, not guppy leagues

d) Players should be drafted right before their ADP, NOT where I have them ranked. Read this line twice if you don’t get it.

Players to Target: Palmer, Plummer, Bledsoe, Warner, Leftwich

Why: All will have ppg’s that will outperform their ADP

Overall Strategy: Wait on QB while taking RB/WR early unless Palmer slides. Try to land a combination of the above players. Make sure your combo covers playoff weeks 14-16.

QB RANKINGS

**= Players with stellar PPG to ADP ratio

$$ = Nice Playoff Schedule

1. Manning

2. Palmer**

3. Bledsoe**

4. Hasselbeck $$

5. Brady

6. Delhomme**

7. Plummer** $$

8. Warner**

9. McNabb

10 E. Manning

11. Bulger

12. Favre $$

13. Green

14. Leftwich** $$

15. Culpepper

16. McNair

17. Brooks $$

18. Roethlisberger

19. Simms**

20. Vick

21. Kitna**

22. Brunell**

23. Brees

24. Rivers

25. Johnson

26. Collins

27. Leinart - suggested handcuff

28. Carr

29. Griese

30. Schaub

31. Romo - suggested handcuff

32. Garrard - suggested handcuff

Don’t waste valuable roster spots on QBs not on this list.

RunningBacks Up Next

 

[Burning Sensation]

I post my rankings every year prior to the season kickoff due to numerous requests. I also obviously enjoy the strategy discussion. This year I’m creating a separate thread for each position as I’m adding my basic strategy for each of the positions.

Some points to consider when taking a look at these rankings.

a) These are rankings based on where I’d draft players, not projection rankings like what FBG puts out. Most people requesting my rankings want to know the order in which I’d draft players. These rankings are vastly different than my projection rankings as I put an increased emphasis on ppg and playoff schedule.

b) Rankings are based on the WCOFF scoring format, but are not based on the WCOFF playoff format. I put emphasis on weeks 14-16 for playoffs. Basic WCOFF format is PPR, flex RB/WR position, deep roster, H2H.

c) Rankings are for expert/veteran leagues, not guppy leagues

d) Players should be drafted right before their ADP, NOT where I have them ranked. Read this line twice if you don’t get it.

Players to Target: Palmer, Plummer, Bledsoe, Warner, Leftwich

Why: All will have ppg’s that will outperform their ADP

Overall Strategy: Wait on QB while taking RB/WR early unless Palmer slides. Try to land a combination of the above players. Make sure your combo covers playoff weeks 14-16.

QB RANKINGS

**Players with stellar PPG to ADP ratio

$$ Nice Playoff Schedule

1. Manning

2. Palmer**

3. Bledsoe**

4. Hasselbeck $$

5. Brady

6. Delhomme**

7. Plummer**

8. Warner**

9. McNabb

10 E. Manning

11. Bulger

12. Favre $$

13. Green

14. Leftwich** $$

15. Culpepper

16. McNair

17. Brooks $$

18. Roethlisberger

19. Simms**

20. Vick

21. Kitna**

22. Brunell**

23. Brees

24. Rivers

25. Johnson

26. Collins

27. Leinart

28. Carr

29. Griese

30. Schaub

31. Romo

32. Garrard

Don’t waste valuable roster spots on QBs not on this list.

RunningBacks Up Next

While i wouldnt want to ever be in a position to start Pennington(which i am in one league) i would think he has more value than Garrard and a few other QB's on your list.

 

[LHUCKS]

While i wouldnt want to ever be in a position to start Pennington(which i am in one league) i would think he has more value than Garrard and a few other QB's on your list.

I'm never in that position and I'd suggest to others that they don't put themselves in that situation as well.

 

[Patoons]

No Losman either?

Garrard, I would think, is not going to finish ahead of him just based on playing time.

 

[jerseydevil20]

I like the Plummer and Delhomme rankings. Both have great potential this year with 2 high quality receivers (depending on how you feel about Meshawn and Javon, I am optimistic) - not the case last year. Both can be had relatively late.

Nice job.

 

[LHUCKS]

No Losman either?Garrard, I would think, is not going to finish ahead of him just based on playing time.

Again, these are not projection rankings. I obviously believe Losman will outscore Garrard on the year.To reiterate, these are players I draft...you will never find Losman on any of my redraft teams, thus he is not on the list.Additionally, all rankings should be living organisms during drafts. Garrard become more valuable if you draft Leftwich etc. etc.

 

[Patoons]

Vick too low unless he gets a serious injury early. With his rushing totals it's difficult to put him outside of top 15 IMO.

 

[gregjcross]

nice rankings. mcnabb seems low, but i agree due to continued health issues and carson palmer at 2 with the health makes sense

 

[LHUCKS]

Vick too low unless he gets a serious injury early. With his rushing totals it's difficult to put him outside of top 15 IMO.

Have a fun time with that playoff schedule. Also have fun with his inconistency.No thanks.

 

[Patoons]

Vick too low unless he gets a serious injury early. With his rushing totals it's difficult to put him outside of top 15 IMO.

Have fun time with that playoff schedule. Also have fun with his inconistency.No thanks.

Despite those two things, you play him consistently, he will get you the points. He is still likely to rank up there.

 

[LHUCKS]

nice rankings. mcnabb seems low

McNabb is tough to rank and could end up 3rd in scoring this year. I like the eight guys ranked ahead of him more for various reasons.

 

[Patoons]

Vick too low unless he gets a serious injury early. With his rushing totals it's difficult to put him outside of top 15 IMO.

Have fun time with that playoff schedule. Also have fun with his inconistency.No thanks.

Despite those two things, you play him consistently, he will get you the points. He is still likely to rank up there.

Sorry just reread your post- players you draft, not rankings.

 

[LHUCKS]

Vick too low unless he gets a serious injury early. With his rushing totals it's difficult to put him outside of top 15 IMO.

Have fun time with that playoff schedule. Also have fun with his inconistency.No thanks.

Despite those two things, you play him consistently, he will get you the points. He is still likely to rank up there.

Again, these are not projection rankings. Vick would be higher in my projection rankings. Too unpredictable and too tough of a playoff schedule for me to put any higher on my redraft list.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

I think this list would look pretty damn good if you just flip-flopped Bledsoe and McNabb.

Bledsoe = suck

 

[LHUCKS]

I think this list would look pretty damn good if you just flip-flopped Bledsoe and McNabb. Bledsoe = suck

T.O. and any decent QB = Top 5 PPGBledsoe finished top 5 last year without TO.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

I think this list would look pretty damn good if you just flip-flopped Bledsoe and McNabb. Bledsoe = suck

TO and any QB = Top 5 PPG

I think that equation will not survive the Bledsoe Suck Factor. We'll see.

 

[LHUCKS]

I think this list would look pretty damn good if you just flip-flopped Bledsoe and McNabb. Bledsoe = suck

TO and any QB = Top 5 PPG

I think that equation will not survive the Bledsoe Suck Factor. We'll see.

Romo is a suggested handcuff, which is why he is on my draft list.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

I think this list would look pretty damn good if you just flip-flopped Bledsoe and McNabb. Bledsoe = suck

TO and any QB = Top 5 PPG

I think that equation will not survive the Bledsoe Suck Factor. We'll see.

Romo is a suggested handcuff, which is why he is on my draft list.

Ahhh...didn't notice that. I would strongly suggest it. I think that you'll see a lesser Dallas OLine this year and the negative effects that will have on Drew.

 

[SouthJersey]

c) Rankings are for expert/veteran leagues, not guppy leagues

How do you change your draft strategy, with regards to this list, when you're in a league that's a mix of veterans & guppies?

 

[PahtyTom]

Vick too low unless he gets a serious injury early. With his rushing totals it's difficult to put him outside of top 15 IMO.

Have fun time with that playoff schedule. Also have fun with his inconistency.No thanks.

Despite those two things, you play him consistently, he will get you the points. He is still likely to rank up there.

Again, these are not projection rankings. Vick would be higher in my projection rankings. Too unpredictable and too tough of a playoff schedule for me to put any higher on my redraft list.

Contrary to popular belief, Vick is not that unpredictable. Play him at home vs anyone, play him on the road only versus bad defenses. $$$

 

[LHUCKS]

c) Rankings are for expert/veteran leagues, not guppy leagues

How do you change your draft strategy, with regards to this list, when you're in a league that's a mix of veterans & guppies?

Guppy leagues I draft knowing that I can get my sleepers...expert leagues you need to be a bit more agressive going after upside...guys like Warner are going Significantly before his FBG ranking.

 

[trader jake]

Most people requesting my rankings

 

[LHUCKS]

Vick too low unless he gets a serious injury early. With his rushing totals it's difficult to put him outside of top 15 IMO.

Have fun time with that playoff schedule. Also have fun with his inconistency.No thanks.

Despite those two things, you play him consistently, he will get you the points. He is still likely to rank up there.

Again, these are not projection rankings. Vick would be higher in my projection rankings. Too unpredictable and too tough of a playoff schedule for me to put any higher on my redraft list.

Contrary to popular belief, Vick is not that unpredictable. Play him at home vs anyone, play him on the road only versus bad defenses.

The home vs. road assertion is correct, but throw in the injury factor and he becomes way too risky for your QBBC IMHO.

 

[LHUCKS]

Most people requesting my rankings

I'll let other speak for themselves, I could publish a list of at least 50 persons requesting my rankings/and or advice/opinion...including several staffers. Now scamper off to your Yahoo league.

 

[PahtyTom]

Vick too low unless he gets a serious injury early. With his rushing totals it's difficult to put him outside of top 15 IMO.

Have fun time with that playoff schedule. Also have fun with his inconistency.No thanks.

Despite those two things, you play him consistently, he will get you the points. He is still likely to rank up there.

Again, these are not projection rankings. Vick would be higher in my projection rankings. Too unpredictable and too tough of a playoff schedule for me to put any higher on my redraft list.

Contrary to popular belief, Vick is not that unpredictable. Play him at home vs anyone, play him on the road only versus bad defenses.

The home vs. road assertion is correct, but throw in the injury factor and he becomes way too risky for your QBBC IMHO.

Certainly an injury risk, but not more so than Warner or Bulger. I guess their higher upsides is the big difference in their relative rankings.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I think this list would look pretty damn good if you just flip-flopped Bledsoe and McNabb. Bledsoe = suck

T.O. and any decent QB = Top 5 PPGBledsoe finished top 5 last year without TO.

Yet you have Brooks ranked EXTREMELY low.

 

[LHUCKS]

Vick too low unless he gets a serious injury early. With his rushing totals it's difficult to put him outside of top 15 IMO.

Have fun time with that playoff schedule. Also have fun with his inconistency.No thanks.

Despite those two things, you play him consistently, he will get you the points. He is still likely to rank up there.

Again, these are not projection rankings. Vick would be higher in my projection rankings. Too unpredictable and too tough of a playoff schedule for me to put any higher on my redraft list.

Contrary to popular belief, Vick is not that unpredictable. Play him at home vs anyone, play him on the road only versus bad defenses.

The home vs. road assertion is correct, but throw in the injury factor and he becomes way too risky for your QBBC IMHO.

Certainly an injury risk, but not more so than Warner or Bulger. I guess their higher upsides is the big difference in their relative rankings.

correct

 

[LHUCKS]

I think this list would look pretty damn good if you just flip-flopped Bledsoe and McNabb. Bledsoe = suck

T.O. and any decent QB = Top 5 PPGBledsoe finished top 5 last year without TO.

Yet you have Brooks ranked EXTREMELY low.

yeah...I'm not sold on the coaching staff. I have him ranked at the end of his tier. I think you'll see a lot of inconsistency from Brooks this year.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

I'm curious about your ranking of Favre at 12 - I have him as part of a QB platoon and I'm obviously concerned given his recent performances. What do you like there to make him a low-end QB1 besides the easy playoff schedule?

 

[trader jake]

Most people requesting my rankings

I'll let other speak for themselves, I could publish a list of at least 50 persons requesting my rankings/and or advice/opinion...including several staffers. Now scamper off to your Yahoo league.

I'm sure your legions of fans appreciate your input. The fact that 99% of drafts have already taken place adds real value to your much awaited insight. Almost as much as your constant screaming for attention here.I'll wait for the 50 names.

 

[LHUCKS]

I'm curious about your ranking of Favre at 12 - I have him as part of a QB platoon and I'm obviously concerned given his recent performances. What do you like there to make him a low-end QB1 besides the easy playoff schedule?

His defense sucks and so does his running game.GB will be forced to throw the ball in the second half...last year that was good for Favre.

 

[LHUCKS]

Almost as much as your constant screaming for attention here.

I "scream" for intelligent fantasy football discussion.Thanks for leaving the thread.

 

[jerseydevil20]

I'm curious about your ranking of Favre at 12 - I have him as part of a QB platoon and I'm obviously concerned given his recent performances. What do you like there to make him a low-end QB1 besides the easy playoff schedule?

His defense sucks and so does his running game.GB will be forced to throw the ball in the second half...last year that was good for Favre.

Don't be surprised if Favre drops a few 3 and 4 TD games vs. bad defenses this year. He needs his 25 TDs to break the record either a) before he retires or b) if he leaves the Pack next year. Also a reason to target Driver this year as well.

 

[SouthJersey]

c) Rankings are for expert/veteran leagues, not guppy leagues

How do you change your draft strategy, with regards to this list, when you're in a league that's a mix of veterans & guppies?

Guppy leagues I draft knowing that I can get my sleepers...expert leagues you need to be a bit more agressive going after upside...guys like Warner are going Significantly before his FBG ranking.

That's interesting...cause I was gonna say the same thing about a mixed Guppy/veteran league. In 2 of the leagues i'm in...the only QBs of the 5 you were planning on targeting that you could've gotten around their ADP would've been Plummer and Leftwich. The other 3 went at least a round earlier if not more.That being said there was a lot of value at other positions still on the board because guys were jumping after QBs early.

 

[LHUCKS]

That's interesting...cause I was gonna say the same thing about a mixed Guppy/veteran league. In 2 of the leagues i'm in...the only QBs of the 5 you were planning on targeting that you could've gotten around their ADP would've been Plummer and Leftwich. The other 3 went at least a round earlier if not more.That being said there was a lot of value at other positions still on the board because guys were jumping after QBs early.

In general QBs go earlier in guppy leagues so I'm not surprised by that. Two different kinds of ADP, Positional ADP and overall ADP. I'm talking about positional ADP and you're talking about overall ADP.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

I'm curious about your ranking of Favre at 12 - I have him as part of a QB platoon and I'm obviously concerned given his recent performances. What do you like there to make him a low-end QB1 besides the easy playoff schedule?

His defense sucks and so does his running game.GB will be forced to throw the ball in the second half...last year that was good for Favre.

Don't be surprised if Favre drops a few 3 and 4 TD games vs. bad defenses this year. He needs his 25 TDs to break the record either a) before he retires or b) if he leaves the Pack next year. Also a reason to target Driver this year as well.

What I also found interesting was that Favre threw 14 of his 20 TD's in the first six games of the season, which also happens to be the six games that Ahman Green was in the lineup. Once Green went out, Favre tanked. May be a coincedence, but warrants mentioning now that Green is back.

 

[joffer]

pretty good list, but i can't believe Vick doesn't qualify as a good value right now. you can get him in the 9th/10th round and he's got serious upside if he stays healthy. you just have to back him up a little earlier.

 

[cobalt_27]

The unintentional comedy in this thread is just priceless.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I don't understand where all the Plummer love is coming from. I like Javon Walker as much as the next guy, but Denver's always been a run first team, and Walker is coming off of a serious knee injury. After Walker and Smith (who is falling off), there is nothing, including TE.

Perhaps I'm missing something, but I think Denver's receiving corps is worse this year and Plummer wasn't a fantasy starter last year.

 

[LHUCKS]

I don't understand where all the Plummer love is coming from. I like Javon Walker as much as the next guy, but Denver's always been a run first team, and Walker is coming off of a serious knee injury. After Walker and Smith (who is falling off), there is nothing, including TE.Perhaps I'm missing something, but I think Denver's receiving corps is worse this year and Plummer wasn't a fantasy starter last year.

I think the addition of Walker is a huge difference. I also don't have very much confidence in the Bell combo lasting the year. This could easily be a pass first team by week 4. I also forgot to add the tasty playoff schedule symbol.

 

[joffer]

I don't understand where all the Plummer love is coming from. I like Javon Walker as much as the next guy, but Denver's always been a run first team, and Walker is coming off of a serious knee injury. After Walker and Smith (who is falling off), there is nothing, including TE.Perhaps I'm missing something, but I think Denver's receiving corps is worse this year and Plummer wasn't a fantasy starter last year.

2004 - 27 passing TDs, 12 rushing TDs, finished 5th2005 - 17 passing TDs, 22 rushing TDs, finished 11th.if that split swings back towards passing even a little bit, he's a bargain. and Walker is an upgrade.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

I'm curious about your ranking of Favre at 12 - I have him as part of a QB platoon and I'm obviously concerned given his recent performances. What do you like there to make him a low-end QB1 besides the easy playoff schedule?

GB will be forced to throw the ball in the second half...last year that was good for Favre.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Just go look at the numbers Favre put up in the second half of games last season.

 

[hook014]

I don't understand where all the Plummer love is coming from. I like Javon Walker as much as the next guy, but Denver's always been a run first team, and Walker is coming off of a serious knee injury. After Walker and Smith (who is falling off), there is nothing, including TE.Perhaps I'm missing something, but I think Denver's receiving corps is worse this year and Plummer wasn't a fantasy starter last year.

I think the addition of Walker is a huge difference. I also don't have very much confidence in the Bell combo lasting the year. This could easily be a pass first team by week 4. I also forgot to add the tasty playoff schedule symbol.

I agree. People are gonna be when they see what j walker can do in mile high.Have we forgotten so soon?Bledsoe and Plummer were both good values in my 2 drafts. Nice writeup.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I don't understand where all the Plummer love is coming from. I like Javon Walker as much as the next guy, but Denver's always been a run first team, and Walker is coming off of a serious knee injury. After Walker and Smith (who is falling off), there is nothing, including TE.Perhaps I'm missing something, but I think Denver's receiving corps is worse this year and Plummer wasn't a fantasy starter last year.

I think the addition of Walker is a huge difference. I also don't have very much confidence in the Bell combo lasting the year. This could easily be a pass first team by week 4. I also forgot to add the tasty playoff schedule symbol.

You have far more faith in Walker being back to 100% than I do. While I think he's an eventual upgrade for Denver long term, I don't think he'll be anywhere near 2004 form until 2007.

 

[LHUCKS]

I don't understand where all the Plummer love is coming from. I like Javon Walker as much as the next guy, but Denver's always been a run first team, and Walker is coming off of a serious knee injury. After Walker and Smith (who is falling off), there is nothing, including TE.Perhaps I'm missing something, but I think Denver's receiving corps is worse this year and Plummer wasn't a fantasy starter last year.

I think the addition of Walker is a huge difference. I also don't have very much confidence in the Bell combo lasting the year. This could easily be a pass first team by week 4. I also forgot to add the tasty playoff schedule symbol.

You have far more faith in Walker being back to 100% than I do. While I think he's an eventual upgrade for Denver long term, I don't think he'll be anywhere near 2004 form until 2007.

He has looked pretty damn good this preseason. Better than Lelie ever did that's for damn sure.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I don't understand where all the Plummer love is coming from. I like Javon Walker as much as the next guy, but Denver's always been a run first team, and Walker is coming off of a serious knee injury. After Walker and Smith (who is falling off), there is nothing, including TE.Perhaps I'm missing something, but I think Denver's receiving corps is worse this year and Plummer wasn't a fantasy starter last year.

2004 - 27 passing TDs, 12 rushing TDs, finished 5th2005 - 17 passing TDs, 22 rushing TDs, finished 11th.

Point taken.

if that split swings back towards passing even a little bit, he's a bargain. and Walker is an upgrade.

Immediately? Perhaps I'm living in the past, when ACL tears meant that a player wasn't 100% for at least 2 years. Obviously folks here are giving Walker the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps I'm wrong on this one, but I'm not sold that Walker's cuts and burst are going to be there. And that cutting and burst is the difference between a solid WR2 and the instant upgrade many are penciling in, IMO.

 

[LHUCKS]

I'm curious about your ranking of Favre at 12 - I have him as part of a QB platoon and I'm obviously concerned given his recent performances. What do you like there to make him a low-end QB1 besides the easy playoff schedule?

GB will be forced to throw the ball in the second half...last year that was good for Favre.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Just go look at the numbers Favre put up in the second half of games last season.

Favre ranked first in pass attempts in the second halves of games last year and he ranked 11th in fantasy points.From the data dominator:

1 Brett Favre qb 2005 182 318 1930 6.07 99 8 17 114.00 2 Kerry Collins qb 2005 167 307 2029 6.61 96 10 7 143.95 3 Eli Manning qb 2005 141 271 1797 6.63 83 10 10 124.65 4 Tom Brady qb 2005 159 248 1996 8.05 91 13 7 148.80 5 Gus Frerotte qb 2005 122 245 1509 6.16 73 11 7 115.95 6 Trent Green qb 2005 157 243 2048 8.43 98 11 6 144.90 7 Drew Bledsoe qb 2005 141 241 1736 7.20 82 10 7 119.70 8 Steve McNair qb 2005 144 237 1626 6.86 79 8 3 122.40 9 Aaron Brooks qb 2005 123 229 1432 6.25 73 4 10 98.10 10 Carson Palmer qb 2005 149 228 1722 7.55 85 12 7 134.00 11 Drew Brees qb 2005 130 215 1385 6.44 72 8 10 100.75 12 David Carr qb 2005 132 214 1336 6.24 69 6 7 96.90

 

[joffer]

Obviously folks here are giving Walker the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps I'm wrong on this one, but I'm not sold that Walker's cuts and burst are going to be there. And that cutting and burst is the difference between a solid WR2 and the instant upgrade many are penciling in, IMO.

70% of Walker is better than LelieScheffler is also looking like an upgrade over Putzier, even though i usually don't expect much from rook TEs.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Sorry for the hi-jack LHUCKS - back to your QB rankings.

Are you down on Brady because of Branch's holdout?

And Culpepper behind Leftwich?

 

[LHUCKS]

Sorry for the hi-jack LHUCKS - back to your QB rankings. Are you down on Brady because of Branch's holdout? And Culpepper behind Leftwich?

I have him ranked fifth so I'm not totally down on him, but I have tempered expectations for the following reasons:a) Running game is vastly improved with Maroney and Healthy Dillon/Faulkb) Defense could improve c) WRs are a mess