LHUCKS top 5 Undervalued ADP 30-75 (1 Viewer)

[LHUCKS]

How can the #72 guy be your favorite value from 30-60? you created the buckets, you might as well say from 30 to 75 or something.

Because his ADP is actually #57

Not according to Sportsline.

 

[Short Corner]

How can the #72 guy be your favorite value from 30-60? you created the buckets, you might as well say from 30 to 75 or something.

Because his ADP is actually #57

Not according to Sportsline.

 

[sho nuff]

Another look at me thread by LHucks, with a lot of "I think" and very little information.

The value in these is the discussion that follows from others IMO.I rip the guy too, but the topics end up being worthwhile if you sift through his ego stroking.

 

[cheese]

First of all great thread LHucks...I like all your picks.Am I the only one that likes Marshall more than Fitz this year? Speaking in PPR terms. Curios to hear what the peanut gallery thinks in regards to this?

Yes. It's possible that Marshall can put up top 5 numbers given Cutler, new team, etc. Fitzgerald puts up top 5 numbers every single year absolutely no matter what happens. I think you can put Fitz down in pen for what we're hoping for out of Marshall.

 

[Banger]

D. Brown is a guy I was looking to target not because I've been impressed with what I've seen from him but he seems/seemed to be the only guy in town so everything would likely fall to him. I'm starting to hear more and more about Vick Ballard (the coaching staff seems to be constantly raving about him and Brown is not their guy) so I'm starting to pump the brakes a bit with Brown. I think Brown will get the early work but the opportunity is there for someone to snatch the job IMO as Brown has never been particularly good.

 

[Keith1]

marshall's not gettin' out of the third, but if you're tabbing him top 5 I guess he's borderline fair game in here.

The ADP referenced is accurate, which meanas he is sliding to the 4th in plenty of 12 team drafts.

Much better reading in here!

not sure why there isn't room for both

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Note: ADPs obtained from the leading fantasy league website.

1. Brandon Marshall ADP #37 - Marshall has already proven he is not a system WR with the strong numbers he put up in Miami. Since his Sopohomore year Marshall has never put up a season below 1000 yards and has only one season under 1100 yards. Add in the fact that the current version of Cutler will be the best QB Marshall has played with...1400/10 is not out of the realm of possibility. Huge value here, with very little risk IMO.

2. Hakeem Nicks ADP #40 - 1192/7 last year. Obviously a great yardage total, but after 11 TDs in just 13 games in 2010, the low 2011 TD total was IMO an aberration. You should see Nicks bounce back in the TD colum with another 70+ reception year with another healthy YPC average. He is in the prime of his career and so is his QB. Take Nicks who has top 5 WR upside with a relatively high floor.

3. Willis McGahee - ADP #58 - 1200 rushing yards and a healthy 4.8YPC in 2011. In 2012 he gets what will likely be a much improved offense with little competition for carries. 1400 total yards and 12 TDs are well within reach IMO. Not huge upside, but at the thin RB position you can do a lot worse in the middle rounds.

4. Miles Austin - ADP#59 - Coming off a down year and dealing with a preseason injury, Austin's ADP has presented a rare opportunity to grab top 5 WR upside in the 5th round. If you want PPG production Austin is a great value play. He might not play all 16, but you're drafting him for PPG value. Further, the other primary targets (Witten and Bryant) haven't exactly had stellar preseasons. Austin may be the only reliable target Romo has to begin the season with which could mean huge numbers that we know Miles is capable of putting up. One of my favorite values of the year...at any position.

5. Donald Brown - ADP#72 - 4.8 YPC over 134 carries in 2011 with an absolutely terrible supporting cast. I like what I've seen from Luck and the Colts offense and Brown is in line to be a significant beneficary of a vastly improved offense, particularly with a lack of competition during the preseason. Brown is playing for his next contract and has the personal incentive to put it all on the line. HE is not a slam dunk, but if you're looking for a guy to come out of nowhere in the middle rounds at the crucial RB position, this might be your guy. Tremendous risk/reward play here.

Good list. The only one I disagree with is Austin. Donald Brown is a great Round 6 back for those that focus on QB, TE, and WR early.

 

[stbugs]

Good list IMHO, agree with all of them. Not all of them will hit, but I like their potentials, especially Nicks. If he continues to practice well, I have no injury concerns. He has played 3 years with Eli now, so not worried about a learning curve of a new offense, just health. If it was a knee thing, I would be more worried. I am more worried about Austin since the hammies affected him last year as well.

And, geez can we stop all the crappy posts. The amount of complaining is ridiculous, of course ADPs and rounds will vary based on league types and sizes. He threw out guys who he thinks will be values, simple as that.

 

[smackdaddies]

IMHO, Greg Jennings is severely undervalued at his current adp of 30.

Clearly the most talented receiver on the team, in the past five seasons he has scored less than 9 tds only once (clearly an aberration). With Nelson receiving more attention this year from coverage, Jennings should be able to increase his last year 9tds up to at least 12 tds. He will end up to 20 overall, to 5 for WR

 

[stbugs]

Note: ADPs obtained from the leading fantasy league website.

1. Brandon Marshall ADP #37 - Marshall has already proven he is not a system WR with the strong numbers he put up in Miami. Since his Sopohomore year Marshall has never put up a season below 1000 yards and has only one season under 1100 yards. Add in the fact that the current version of Cutler will be the best QB Marshall has played with...1400/10 is not out of the realm of possibility. Huge value here, with very little risk IMO.

2. Hakeem Nicks ADP #40 - 1192/7 last year. Obviously a great yardage total, but after 11 TDs in just 13 games in 2010, the low 2011 TD total was IMO an aberration. You should see Nicks bounce back in the TD colum with another 70+ reception year with another healthy YPC average. He is in the prime of his career and so is his QB. Take Nicks who has top 5 WR upside with a relatively high floor.

3. Willis McGahee - ADP #58 - 1200 rushing yards and a healthy 4.8YPC in 2011. In 2012 he gets what will likely be a much improved offense with little competition for carries. 1400 total yards and 12 TDs are well within reach IMO. Not huge upside, but at the thin RB position you can do a lot worse in the middle rounds.

4. Miles Austin - ADP#59 - Coming off a down year and dealing with a preseason injury, Austin's ADP has presented a rare opportunity to grab top 5 WR upside in the 5th round. If you want PPG production Austin is a great value play. He might not play all 16, but you're drafting him for PPG value. Further, the other primary targets (Witten and Bryant) haven't exactly had stellar preseasons. Austin may be the only reliable target Romo has to begin the season with which could mean huge numbers that we know Miles is capable of putting up. One of my favorite values of the year...at any position.

5. Donald Brown - ADP#72 - 4.8 YPC over 134 carries in 2011 with an absolutely terrible supporting cast. I like what I've seen from Luck and the Colts offense and Brown is in line to be a significant beneficary of a vastly improved offense, particularly with a lack of competition during the preseason. Brown is playing for his next contract and has the personal incentive to put it all on the line. HE is not a slam dunk, but if you're looking for a guy to come out of nowhere in the middle rounds at the crucial RB position, this might be your guy. Tremendous risk/reward play here.

Good list. The only one I disagree with is Austin. Donald Brown is a great Round 6 back for those that focus on QB, TE, and WR early.

Exactly, having these types of guys in mind helps when your early rounds get dictated by folks available and you find yourself light on certain positions. If you are weak at WR, it helps to find those undervalued guys who have the potential to fill in that hole. Turning your weaknesses into strengths by finding undervalued guys that perform helps you make the playoffs and compete for a title. I know that sounds obvious, but when looking at ADPs, there are often risky guys with far greater ceilings mixed in with guys who could do as well, but can't win you a title.

 

[shadyridr]

Another look at me thread by LHucks, with a lot of "I think" and very little information.

stop

 

[LHUCKS]

I am more worried about Austin since the hammies affected him last year as well.

But this is why I his ADP is low. Also, hamstrings can be treated. My guess is the Cowboys are ahead on this, not a lot of chronic hamstring issues that have kept players out year after year. It would be interesting to hear what Bell has to say about this.

 

[stbugs]

IMHO, Greg Jennings is severely undervalued at his current adp of 30.Clearly the most talented receiver on the team, in the past five seasons he has scored less than 9 tds only once (clearly an aberration). With Nelson receiving more attention this year from coverage, Jennings should be able to increase his last year 9tds up to at least 12 tds. He will end up to 20 overall, to 5 for WR

Tonight will be a good indicator. Collie was looking good in pre-season, but I watched the Pittsburgh game and he went into the locker room after one hit and that pretty much nailed the coffin in me drafting him. Jennings has been out a couple weeks now, so I worry about another hit.According to a freshly updated DD, he is 2.11 ADP and I would much rather have Nicks, Cruz, Marshall, White and Green, all of whom have 3rd round ADPs. I think all of those guys have as high a ceiling and right now, a much lower risk.

 

[Pipes]

Note: ADPs obtained from the leading fantasy league website.

1. Brandon Marshall ADP #37 - Marshall has already proven he is not a system WR with the strong numbers he put up in Miami. Since his Sopohomore year Marshall has never put up a season below 1000 yards and has only one season under 1100 yards. Add in the fact that the current version of Cutler will be the best QB Marshall has played with...1400/10 is not out of the realm of possibility. Huge value here, with very little risk IMO.

2. Hakeem Nicks ADP #40 - 1192/7 last year. Obviously a great yardage total, but after 11 TDs in just 13 games in 2010, the low 2011 TD total was IMO an aberration. You should see Nicks bounce back in the TD colum with another 70+ reception year with another healthy YPC average. He is in the prime of his career and so is his QB. Take Nicks who has top 5 WR upside with a relatively high floor.

3. Willis McGahee - ADP #58 - 1200 rushing yards and a healthy 4.8YPC in 2011. In 2012 he gets what will likely be a much improved offense with little competition for carries. 1400 total yards and 12 TDs are well within reach IMO. Not huge upside, but at the thin RB position you can do a lot worse in the middle rounds.

4. Miles Austin - ADP#59 - Coming off a down year and dealing with a preseason injury, Austin's ADP has presented a rare opportunity to grab top 5 WR upside in the 5th round. If you want PPG production Austin is a great value play. He might not play all 16, but you're drafting him for PPG value. Further, the other primary targets (Witten and Bryant) haven't exactly had stellar preseasons. Austin may be the only reliable target Romo has to begin the season with which could mean huge numbers that we know Miles is capable of putting up. One of my favorite values of the year...at any position.

5. Donald Brown - ADP#72 - 4.8 YPC over 134 carries in 2011 with an absolutely terrible supporting cast. I like what I've seen from Luck and the Colts offense and Brown is in line to be a significant beneficary of a vastly improved offense, particularly with a lack of competition during the preseason. Brown is playing for his next contract and has the personal incentive to put it all on the line. HE is not a slam dunk, but if you're looking for a guy to come out of nowhere in the middle rounds at the crucial RB position, this might be your guy. Tremendous risk/reward play here.

Good list. The only one I disagree with is Austin. Donald Brown is a great Round 6 back for those that focus on QB, TE, and WR early.

 

[smackdaddies]

Cedric Benson is criminally undervalued - currently 102. With every other Packer RB injured/recovering someway, he is on board for at least 1000 yards and 7 tds. Kuhn, Seine, Starks, Green, Tyler - all either out, nicked up or recovering from serious injury.

 

[smackdaddies]

Note: ADPs obtained from the leading fantasy league website.

1. Brandon Marshall ADP #37 - Marshall has already proven he is not a system WR with the strong numbers he put up in Miami. Since his Sopohomore year Marshall has never put up a season below 1000 yards and has only one season under 1100 yards. Add in the fact that the current version of Cutler will be the best QB Marshall has played with...1400/10 is not out of the realm of possibility. Huge value here, with very little risk IMO.

2. Hakeem Nicks ADP #40 - 1192/7 last year. Obviously a great yardage total, but after 11 TDs in just 13 games in 2010, the low 2011 TD total was IMO an aberration. You should see Nicks bounce back in the TD colum with another 70+ reception year with another healthy YPC average. He is in the prime of his career and so is his QB. Take Nicks who has top 5 WR upside with a relatively high floor.

3. Willis McGahee - ADP #58 - 1200 rushing yards and a healthy 4.8YPC in 2011. In 2012 he gets what will likely be a much improved offense with little competition for carries. 1400 total yards and 12 TDs are well within reach IMO. Not huge upside, but at the thin RB position you can do a lot worse in the middle rounds.

4. Miles Austin - ADP#59 - Coming off a down year and dealing with a preseason injury, Austin's ADP has presented a rare opportunity to grab top 5 WR upside in the 5th round. If you want PPG production Austin is a great value play. He might not play all 16, but you're drafting him for PPG value. Further, the other primary targets (Witten and Bryant) haven't exactly had stellar preseasons. Austin may be the only reliable target Romo has to begin the season with which could mean huge numbers that we know Miles is capable of putting up. One of my favorite values of the year...at any position.

5. Donald Brown - ADP#72 - 4.8 YPC over 134 carries in 2011 with an absolutely terrible supporting cast. I like what I've seen from Luck and the Colts offense and Brown is in line to be a significant beneficary of a vastly improved offense, particularly with a lack of competition during the preseason. Brown is playing for his next contract and has the personal incentive to put it all on the line. HE is not a slam dunk, but if you're looking for a guy to come out of nowhere in the middle rounds at the crucial RB position, this might be your guy. Tremendous risk/reward play here.

Good list. The only one I disagree with is Austin. Donald Brown is a great Round 6 back for those that focus on QB, TE, and WR early.

Just to be fair, I actually think Huckster is pretty close on these.

 

[LHUCKS]

Cedric Benson is criminally undervalued - currently 102.

shhhhh...76-125 coming up next!!

 

[smackdaddies]

Whomever is throwing for Seattle is way undervalued. They have 8 games this year against opponents who allow just a ton of passing yards/tds. If you are a QBBC by committee guy, Flynn or Wilson will put up serious yards/points in half the games they play - Flynn is currently 171, Wilson not on the board.

 

[LHUCKS]

IMHO, Greg Jennings is severely undervalued at his current adp of 30.

Clearly the most talented receiver on the team, in the past five seasons he has scored less than 9 tds only once (clearly an aberration). With Nelson receiving more attention this year from coverage, Jennings should be able to increase his last year 9tds up to at least 12 tds. He will end up to 20 overall, to 5 for WR

Tonight will be a good indicator. Collie was looking good in pre-season, but I watched the Pittsburgh game and he went into the locker room after one hit and that pretty much nailed the coffin in me drafting him. Jennings has been out a couple weeks now, so I worry about another hit.According to a freshly updated DD, he is 2.11 ADP and I would much rather have Nicks, Cruz, Marshall, White and Green, all of whom have 3rd round ADPs. I think all of those guys have as high a ceiling and right now, a much lower risk.

exactly...to many other big time WRs available almost a full round later in the exact same tier

 

[Short Corner]

marshall's not gettin' out of the third, but if you're tabbing him top 5 I guess he's borderline fair game in here.

The ADP referenced is accurate, which means he is sliding to the 4th in plenty of 12 team drafts.

the first thing you need to do is to get rid of any website that housese FREE leagues. aka, yahoo Sportsline

 

[rascal]

Same question as in the other thread, what do you have for their positional rankings?

 

[LHUCKS]

Note: ADPs obtained from the leading fantasy league website.

1. Brandon Marshall ADP #37 - Marshall has already proven he is not a system WR with the strong numbers he put up in Miami. Since his Sopohomore year Marshall has never put up a season below 1000 yards and has only one season under 1100 yards. Add in the fact that the current version of Cutler will be the best QB Marshall has played with...1400/10 is not out of the realm of possibility. Huge value here, with very little risk IMO.

2. Hakeem Nicks ADP #40 - 1192/7 last year. Obviously a great yardage total, but after 11 TDs in just 13 games in 2010, the low 2011 TD total was IMO an aberration. You should see Nicks bounce back in the TD colum with another 70+ reception year with another healthy YPC average. He is in the prime of his career and so is his QB. Take Nicks who has top 5 WR upside with a relatively high floor.

3. Willis McGahee - ADP #58 - 1200 rushing yards and a healthy 4.8YPC in 2011. In 2012 he gets what will likely be a much improved offense with little competition for carries. 1400 total yards and 12 TDs are well within reach IMO. Not huge upside, but at the thin RB position you can do a lot worse in the middle rounds.

4. Miles Austin - ADP#59 - Coming off a down year and dealing with a preseason injury, Austin's ADP has presented a rare opportunity to grab top 5 WR upside in the 5th round. If you want PPG production Austin is a great value play. He might not play all 16, but you're drafting him for PPG value. Further, the other primary targets (Witten and Bryant) haven't exactly had stellar preseasons. Austin may be the only reliable target Romo has to begin the season with which could mean huge numbers that we know Miles is capable of putting up. One of my favorite values of the year...at any position.

5. Donald Brown - ADP#72 - 4.8 YPC over 134 carries in 2011 with an absolutely terrible supporting cast. I like what I've seen from Luck and the Colts offense and Brown is in line to be a significant beneficary of a vastly improved offense, particularly with a lack of competition during the preseason. Brown is playing for his next contract and has the personal incentive to put it all on the line. HE is not a slam dunk, but if you're looking for a guy to come out of nowhere in the middle rounds at the crucial RB position, this might be your guy. Tremendous risk/reward play here.

 

[sho nuff]

Note: ADPs obtained from the leading fantasy league website.

1. Brandon Marshall ADP #37 - Marshall has already proven he is not a system WR with the strong numbers he put up in Miami. Since his Sopohomore year Marshall has never put up a season below 1000 yards and has only one season under 1100 yards. Add in the fact that the current version of Cutler will be the best QB Marshall has played with...1400/10 is not out of the realm of possibility. Huge value here, with very little risk IMO.

2. Hakeem Nicks ADP #40 - 1192/7 last year. Obviously a great yardage total, but after 11 TDs in just 13 games in 2010, the low 2011 TD total was IMO an aberration. You should see Nicks bounce back in the TD colum with another 70+ reception year with another healthy YPC average. He is in the prime of his career and so is his QB. Take Nicks who has top 5 WR upside with a relatively high floor.

3. Willis McGahee - ADP #58 - 1200 rushing yards and a healthy 4.8YPC in 2011. In 2012 he gets what will likely be a much improved offense with little competition for carries. 1400 total yards and 12 TDs are well within reach IMO. Not huge upside, but at the thin RB position you can do a lot worse in the middle rounds.

4. Miles Austin - ADP#59 - Coming off a down year and dealing with a preseason injury, Austin's ADP has presented a rare opportunity to grab top 5 WR upside in the 5th round. If you want PPG production Austin is a great value play. He might not play all 16, but you're drafting him for PPG value. Further, the other primary targets (Witten and Bryant) haven't exactly had stellar preseasons. Austin may be the only reliable target Romo has to begin the season with which could mean huge numbers that we know Miles is capable of putting up. One of my favorite values of the year...at any position.

5. Donald Brown - ADP#72 - 4.8 YPC over 134 carries in 2011 with an absolutely terrible supporting cast. I like what I've seen from Luck and the Colts offense and Brown is in line to be a significant beneficary of a vastly improved offense, particularly with a lack of competition during the preseason. Brown is playing for his next contract and has the personal incentive to put it all on the line. HE is not a slam dunk, but if you're looking for a guy to come out of nowhere in the middle rounds at the crucial RB position, this might be your guy. Tremendous risk/reward play here.

1. One good week.2. One good week and now hurt

3. One good week

4. Both decent weeks and value play there.

5. TD made week one ok...

Pretty meh here...only bumping this to prove you are not patting yourself on the back for the other...or are you going to spin this to act like you are hitting on all of them?

 

[Wadsworth]

Note: ADPs obtained from the leading fantasy league website.

1. Brandon Marshall ADP #37 - Marshall has already proven he is not a system WR with the strong numbers he put up in Miami. Since his Sopohomore year Marshall has never put up a season below 1000 yards and has only one season under 1100 yards. Add in the fact that the current version of Cutler will be the best QB Marshall has played with...1400/10 is not out of the realm of possibility. Huge value here, with very little risk IMO.

2. Hakeem Nicks ADP #40 - 1192/7 last year. Obviously a great yardage total, but after 11 TDs in just 13 games in 2010, the low 2011 TD total was IMO an aberration. You should see Nicks bounce back in the TD colum with another 70+ reception year with another healthy YPC average. He is in the prime of his career and so is his QB. Take Nicks who has top 5 WR upside with a relatively high floor.

3. Willis McGahee - ADP #58 - 1200 rushing yards and a healthy 4.8YPC in 2011. In 2012 he gets what will likely be a much improved offense with little competition for carries. 1400 total yards and 12 TDs are well within reach IMO. Not huge upside, but at the thin RB position you can do a lot worse in the middle rounds.

4. Miles Austin - ADP#59 - Coming off a down year and dealing with a preseason injury, Austin's ADP has presented a rare opportunity to grab top 5 WR upside in the 5th round. If you want PPG production Austin is a great value play. He might not play all 16, but you're drafting him for PPG value. Further, the other primary targets (Witten and Bryant) haven't exactly had stellar preseasons. Austin may be the only reliable target Romo has to begin the season with which could mean huge numbers that we know Miles is capable of putting up. One of my favorite values of the year...at any position.

5. Donald Brown - ADP#72 - 4.8 YPC over 134 carries in 2011 with an absolutely terrible supporting cast. I like what I've seen from Luck and the Colts offense and Brown is in line to be a significant beneficary of a vastly improved offense, particularly with a lack of competition during the preseason. Brown is playing for his next contract and has the personal incentive to put it all on the line. HE is not a slam dunk, but if you're looking for a guy to come out of nowhere in the middle rounds at the crucial RB position, this might be your guy. Tremendous risk/reward play here.

1. One good week.2. One good week and now hurt

3. One good week

4. Both decent weeks and value play there.

5. TD made week one ok...

Pretty meh here...only bumping this to prove you are not patting yourself on the back for the other...or are you going to spin this to act like you are hitting on all of them?

Yea, Donald Brown looks like the only win so far on this list. The first four guys I think have played well enough while healthy to justify their ADP moving forward.

 

[flc735]

Note: ADPs obtained from the leading fantasy league website.

1. Brandon Marshall ADP #37 - Marshall has already proven he is not a system WR with the strong numbers he put up in Miami. Since his Sopohomore year Marshall has never put up a season below 1000 yards and has only one season under 1100 yards. Add in the fact that the current version of Cutler will be the best QB Marshall has played with...1400/10 is not out of the realm of possibility. Huge value here, with very little risk IMO.

2. Hakeem Nicks ADP #40 - 1192/7 last year. Obviously a great yardage total, but after 11 TDs in just 13 games in 2010, the low 2011 TD total was IMO an aberration. You should see Nicks bounce back in the TD colum with another 70+ reception year with another healthy YPC average. He is in the prime of his career and so is his QB. Take Nicks who has top 5 WR upside with a relatively high floor.

3. Willis McGahee - ADP #58 - 1200 rushing yards and a healthy 4.8YPC in 2011. In 2012 he gets what will likely be a much improved offense with little competition for carries. 1400 total yards and 12 TDs are well within reach IMO. Not huge upside, but at the thin RB position you can do a lot worse in the middle rounds.

4. Miles Austin - ADP#59 - Coming off a down year and dealing with a preseason injury, Austin's ADP has presented a rare opportunity to grab top 5 WR upside in the 5th round. If you want PPG production Austin is a great value play. He might not play all 16, but you're drafting him for PPG value. Further, the other primary targets (Witten and Bryant) haven't exactly had stellar preseasons. Austin may be the only reliable target Romo has to begin the season with which could mean huge numbers that we know Miles is capable of putting up. One of my favorite values of the year...at any position.

5. Donald Brown - ADP#72 - 4.8 YPC over 134 carries in 2011 with an absolutely terrible supporting cast. I like what I've seen from Luck and the Colts offense and Brown is in line to be a significant beneficary of a vastly improved offense, particularly with a lack of competition during the preseason. Brown is playing for his next contract and has the personal incentive to put it all on the line. HE is not a slam dunk, but if you're looking for a guy to come out of nowhere in the middle rounds at the crucial RB position, this might be your guy. Tremendous risk/reward play here.

1. One good week.2. One good week and now hurt

3. One good week

4. Both decent weeks and value play there.

5. TD made week one ok...

Pretty meh here...only bumping this to prove you are not patting yourself on the back for the other...or are you going to spin this to act like you are hitting on all of them?

please. sounds like jealousy to me. if we redrafted today, all of those guys, except for maybe brown would be picked high than what their adp was back when this was posted (hint: that means he was right). there is still a lot to go, but so far this is pretty good.

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

Note: ADPs obtained from the leading fantasy league website.

1. Brandon Marshall ADP #37 - Marshall has already proven he is not a system WR with the strong numbers he put up in Miami. Since his Sopohomore year Marshall has never put up a season below 1000 yards and has only one season under 1100 yards. Add in the fact that the current version of Cutler will be the best QB Marshall has played with...1400/10 is not out of the realm of possibility. Huge value here, with very little risk IMO.

2. Hakeem Nicks ADP #40 - 1192/7 last year. Obviously a great yardage total, but after 11 TDs in just 13 games in 2010, the low 2011 TD total was IMO an aberration. You should see Nicks bounce back in the TD colum with another 70+ reception year with another healthy YPC average. He is in the prime of his career and so is his QB. Take Nicks who has top 5 WR upside with a relatively high floor.

3. Willis McGahee - ADP #58 - 1200 rushing yards and a healthy 4.8YPC in 2011. In 2012 he gets what will likely be a much improved offense with little competition for carries. 1400 total yards and 12 TDs are well within reach IMO. Not huge upside, but at the thin RB position you can do a lot worse in the middle rounds.

4. Miles Austin - ADP#59 - Coming off a down year and dealing with a preseason injury, Austin's ADP has presented a rare opportunity to grab top 5 WR upside in the 5th round. If you want PPG production Austin is a great value play. He might not play all 16, but you're drafting him for PPG value. Further, the other primary targets (Witten and Bryant) haven't exactly had stellar preseasons. Austin may be the only reliable target Romo has to begin the season with which could mean huge numbers that we know Miles is capable of putting up. One of my favorite values of the year...at any position.

5. Donald Brown - ADP#72 - 4.8 YPC over 134 carries in 2011 with an absolutely terrible supporting cast. I like what I've seen from Luck and the Colts offense and Brown is in line to be a significant beneficary of a vastly improved offense, particularly with a lack of competition during the preseason. Brown is playing for his next contract and has the personal incentive to put it all on the line. HE is not a slam dunk, but if you're looking for a guy to come out of nowhere in the middle rounds at the crucial RB position, this might be your guy. Tremendous risk/reward play here.

1. One good week.2. One good week and now hurt

3. One good week

4. Both decent weeks and value play there.

5. TD made week one ok...

Pretty meh here...only bumping this to prove you are not patting yourself on the back for the other...or are you going to spin this to act like you are hitting on all of them?

please. sounds like jealousy to me. if we redrafted today, all of those guys, except for maybe brown would be picked high than what their adp was back when this was posted (hint: that means he was right). there is still a lot to go, but so far this is pretty good.

Who drafts players for weeks 1 and 2?

 

[SameSongNDance]

Note: ADPs obtained from the leading fantasy league website.

1. Brandon Marshall ADP #37 - Marshall has already proven he is not a system WR with the strong numbers he put up in Miami. Since his Sopohomore year Marshall has never put up a season below 1000 yards and has only one season under 1100 yards. Add in the fact that the current version of Cutler will be the best QB Marshall has played with...1400/10 is not out of the realm of possibility. Huge value here, with very little risk IMO.

2. Hakeem Nicks ADP #40 - 1192/7 last year. Obviously a great yardage total, but after 11 TDs in just 13 games in 2010, the low 2011 TD total was IMO an aberration. You should see Nicks bounce back in the TD colum with another 70+ reception year with another healthy YPC average. He is in the prime of his career and so is his QB. Take Nicks who has top 5 WR upside with a relatively high floor.

3. Willis McGahee - ADP #58 - 1200 rushing yards and a healthy 4.8YPC in 2011. In 2012 he gets what will likely be a much improved offense with little competition for carries. 1400 total yards and 12 TDs are well within reach IMO. Not huge upside, but at the thin RB position you can do a lot worse in the middle rounds.

4. Miles Austin - ADP#59 - Coming off a down year and dealing with a preseason injury, Austin's ADP has presented a rare opportunity to grab top 5 WR upside in the 5th round. If you want PPG production Austin is a great value play. He might not play all 16, but you're drafting him for PPG value. Further, the other primary targets (Witten and Bryant) haven't exactly had stellar preseasons. Austin may be the only reliable target Romo has to begin the season with which could mean huge numbers that we know Miles is capable of putting up. One of my favorite values of the year...at any position.

5. Donald Brown - ADP#72 - 4.8 YPC over 134 carries in 2011 with an absolutely terrible supporting cast. I like what I've seen from Luck and the Colts offense and Brown is in line to be a significant beneficary of a vastly improved offense, particularly with a lack of competition during the preseason. Brown is playing for his next contract and has the personal incentive to put it all on the line. HE is not a slam dunk, but if you're looking for a guy to come out of nowhere in the middle rounds at the crucial RB position, this might be your guy. Tremendous risk/reward play here.

1. One good week.2. One good week and now hurt

3. One good week

4. Both decent weeks and value play there.

5. TD made week one ok...

Pretty meh here...only bumping this to prove you are not patting yourself on the back for the other...or are you going to spin this to act like you are hitting on all of them?

please. sounds like jealousy to me. if we redrafted today, all of those guys, except for maybe brown would be picked high than what their adp was back when this was posted (hint: that means he was right). there is still a lot to go, but so far this is pretty good.

Nicks and Marshall are costing owners within these first couple weeks. Consistency is key. What are you talking about?

 

[Short Corner]

Note: ADPs obtained from the leading fantasy league website.

1. Brandon Marshall ADP #37 - Marshall has already proven he is not a system WR with the strong numbers he put up in Miami. Since his Sopohomore year Marshall has never put up a season below 1000 yards and has only one season under 1100 yards. Add in the fact that the current version of Cutler will be the best QB Marshall has played with...1400/10 is not out of the realm of possibility. Huge value here, with very little risk IMO.

2. Hakeem Nicks ADP #40 - 1192/7 last year. Obviously a great yardage total, but after 11 TDs in just 13 games in 2010, the low 2011 TD total was IMO an aberration. You should see Nicks bounce back in the TD colum with another 70+ reception year with another healthy YPC average. He is in the prime of his career and so is his QB. Take Nicks who has top 5 WR upside with a relatively high floor.

3. Willis McGahee - ADP #58 - 1200 rushing yards and a healthy 4.8YPC in 2011. In 2012 he gets what will likely be a much improved offense with little competition for carries. 1400 total yards and 12 TDs are well within reach IMO. Not huge upside, but at the thin RB position you can do a lot worse in the middle rounds.

4. Miles Austin - ADP#59 - Coming off a down year and dealing with a preseason injury, Austin's ADP has presented a rare opportunity to grab top 5 WR upside in the 5th round. If you want PPG production Austin is a great value play. He might not play all 16, but you're drafting him for PPG value. Further, the other primary targets (Witten and Bryant) haven't exactly had stellar preseasons. Austin may be the only reliable target Romo has to begin the season with which could mean huge numbers that we know Miles is capable of putting up. One of my favorite values of the year...at any position.

5. Donald Brown - ADP#72 - 4.8 YPC over 134 carries in 2011 with an absolutely terrible supporting cast. I like what I've seen from Luck and the Colts offense and Brown is in line to be a significant beneficary of a vastly improved offense, particularly with a lack of competition during the preseason. Brown is playing for his next contract and has the personal incentive to put it all on the line. HE is not a slam dunk, but if you're looking for a guy to come out of nowhere in the middle rounds at the crucial RB position, this might be your guy. Tremendous risk/reward play here.

1. One good week.2. One good week and now hurt

3. One good week

4. Both decent weeks and value play there.

5. TD made week one ok...

Pretty meh here...only bumping this to prove you are not patting yourself on the back for the other...or are you going to spin this to act like you are hitting on all of them?

please. sounds like jealousy to me. if we redrafted today, all of those guys, except for maybe brown would be picked high than what their adp was back when this was posted (hint: that means he was right). there is still a lot to go, but so far this is pretty good.

only 2 out of 5 are outperforming their ADP

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Nice work man, killing it so far.

 

[flc735]

Note: ADPs obtained from the leading fantasy league website.

1. Brandon Marshall ADP #37 - Marshall has already proven he is not a system WR with the strong numbers he put up in Miami. Since his Sopohomore year Marshall has never put up a season below 1000 yards and has only one season under 1100 yards. Add in the fact that the current version of Cutler will be the best QB Marshall has played with...1400/10 is not out of the realm of possibility. Huge value here, with very little risk IMO.

2. Hakeem Nicks ADP #40 - 1192/7 last year. Obviously a great yardage total, but after 11 TDs in just 13 games in 2010, the low 2011 TD total was IMO an aberration. You should see Nicks bounce back in the TD colum with another 70+ reception year with another healthy YPC average. He is in the prime of his career and so is his QB. Take Nicks who has top 5 WR upside with a relatively high floor.

3. Willis McGahee - ADP #58 - 1200 rushing yards and a healthy 4.8YPC in 2011. In 2012 he gets what will likely be a much improved offense with little competition for carries. 1400 total yards and 12 TDs are well within reach IMO. Not huge upside, but at the thin RB position you can do a lot worse in the middle rounds.

4. Miles Austin - ADP#59 - Coming off a down year and dealing with a preseason injury, Austin's ADP has presented a rare opportunity to grab top 5 WR upside in the 5th round. If you want PPG production Austin is a great value play. He might not play all 16, but you're drafting him for PPG value. Further, the other primary targets (Witten and Bryant) haven't exactly had stellar preseasons. Austin may be the only reliable target Romo has to begin the season with which could mean huge numbers that we know Miles is capable of putting up. One of my favorite values of the year...at any position.

5. Donald Brown - ADP#72 - 4.8 YPC over 134 carries in 2011 with an absolutely terrible supporting cast. I like what I've seen from Luck and the Colts offense and Brown is in line to be a significant beneficary of a vastly improved offense, particularly with a lack of competition during the preseason. Brown is playing for his next contract and has the personal incentive to put it all on the line. HE is not a slam dunk, but if you're looking for a guy to come out of nowhere in the middle rounds at the crucial RB position, this might be your guy. Tremendous risk/reward play here.

1. One good week.2. One good week and now hurt

3. One good week

4. Both decent weeks and value play there.

5. TD made week one ok...

Pretty meh here...only bumping this to prove you are not patting yourself on the back for the other...or are you going to spin this to act like you are hitting on all of them?

please. sounds like jealousy to me. if we redrafted today, all of those guys, except for maybe brown would be picked high than what their adp was back when this was posted (hint: that means he was right). there is still a lot to go, but so far this is pretty good.

only 2 out of 5 are outperforming their ADP

uh no, 5 are. do you have a subscription here? they have a thing called rankings going forward, which is the same thing as saying "if we redrafted today"marhsall is 23

nicks is 48

mcGahee is 40

austin is 47

brown is 64

according to them, nicks is the only one that was wrong and thats only because of his injury. was he suppose to predict injury as well?

 

[Das Boot]

Note: ADPs obtained from the leading fantasy league website.

1. Brandon Marshall ADP #37 - Marshall has already proven he is not a system WR with the strong numbers he put up in Miami. Since his Sopohomore year Marshall has never put up a season below 1000 yards and has only one season under 1100 yards. Add in the fact that the current version of Cutler will be the best QB Marshall has played with...1400/10 is not out of the realm of possibility. Huge value here, with very little risk IMO.

2. Hakeem Nicks ADP #40 - 1192/7 last year. Obviously a great yardage total, but after 11 TDs in just 13 games in 2010, the low 2011 TD total was IMO an aberration. You should see Nicks bounce back in the TD colum with another 70+ reception year with another healthy YPC average. He is in the prime of his career and so is his QB. Take Nicks who has top 5 WR upside with a relatively high floor.

3. Willis McGahee - ADP #58 - 1200 rushing yards and a healthy 4.8YPC in 2011. In 2012 he gets what will likely be a much improved offense with little competition for carries. 1400 total yards and 12 TDs are well within reach IMO. Not huge upside, but at the thin RB position you can do a lot worse in the middle rounds.

4. Miles Austin - ADP#59 - Coming off a down year and dealing with a preseason injury, Austin's ADP has presented a rare opportunity to grab top 5 WR upside in the 5th round. If you want PPG production Austin is a great value play. He might not play all 16, but you're drafting him for PPG value. Further, the other primary targets (Witten and Bryant) haven't exactly had stellar preseasons. Austin may be the only reliable target Romo has to begin the season with which could mean huge numbers that we know Miles is capable of putting up. One of my favorite values of the year...at any position.

5. Donald Brown - ADP#72 - 4.8 YPC over 134 carries in 2011 with an absolutely terrible supporting cast. I like what I've seen from Luck and the Colts offense and Brown is in line to be a significant beneficary of a vastly improved offense, particularly with a lack of competition during the preseason. Brown is playing for his next contract and has the personal incentive to put it all on the line. HE is not a slam dunk, but if you're looking for a guy to come out of nowhere in the middle rounds at the crucial RB position, this might be your guy. Tremendous risk/reward play here.

1. One good week.2. One good week and now hurt

3. One good week

4. Both decent weeks and value play there.

5. TD made week one ok...

Pretty meh here...only bumping this to prove you are not patting yourself on the back for the other...or are you going to spin this to act like you are hitting on all of them?

please. sounds like jealousy to me. if we redrafted today, all of those guys, except for maybe brown would be picked high than what their adp was back when this was posted (hint: that means he was right). there is still a lot to go, but so far this is pretty good.

only 2 out of 5 are outperforming their ADP

uh no, 5 are. do you have a subscription here? they have a thing called rankings going forward, which is the same thing as saying "if we redrafted today"marhsall is 23

nicks is 48

mcGahee is 40

austin is 47

brown is 64

according to them, nicks is the only one that was wrong and thats only because of his injury. was he suppose to predict injury as well?

What were these 5 listed by FBGs at the beginning of the season?lhucks used Sportsline for his ADP.

I'd guess FBGs had them higher.

Also we are 2 weeks in - it's a little early to be declaring success or failure.

 

[Short Corner]

Note: ADPs obtained from the leading fantasy league website.

1. Brandon Marshall ADP #37 - Marshall has already proven he is not a system WR with the strong numbers he put up in Miami. Since his Sopohomore year Marshall has never put up a season below 1000 yards and has only one season under 1100 yards. Add in the fact that the current version of Cutler will be the best QB Marshall has played with...1400/10 is not out of the realm of possibility. Huge value here, with very little risk IMO.

2. Hakeem Nicks ADP #40 - 1192/7 last year. Obviously a great yardage total, but after 11 TDs in just 13 games in 2010, the low 2011 TD total was IMO an aberration. You should see Nicks bounce back in the TD colum with another 70+ reception year with another healthy YPC average. He is in the prime of his career and so is his QB. Take Nicks who has top 5 WR upside with a relatively high floor.

3. Willis McGahee - ADP #58 - 1200 rushing yards and a healthy 4.8YPC in 2011. In 2012 he gets what will likely be a much improved offense with little competition for carries. 1400 total yards and 12 TDs are well within reach IMO. Not huge upside, but at the thin RB position you can do a lot worse in the middle rounds.

4. Miles Austin - ADP#59 - Coming off a down year and dealing with a preseason injury, Austin's ADP has presented a rare opportunity to grab top 5 WR upside in the 5th round. If you want PPG production Austin is a great value play. He might not play all 16, but you're drafting him for PPG value. Further, the other primary targets (Witten and Bryant) haven't exactly had stellar preseasons. Austin may be the only reliable target Romo has to begin the season with which could mean huge numbers that we know Miles is capable of putting up. One of my favorite values of the year...at any position.

5. Donald Brown - ADP#72 - 4.8 YPC over 134 carries in 2011 with an absolutely terrible supporting cast. I like what I've seen from Luck and the Colts offense and Brown is in line to be a significant beneficary of a vastly improved offense, particularly with a lack of competition during the preseason. Brown is playing for his next contract and has the personal incentive to put it all on the line. HE is not a slam dunk, but if you're looking for a guy to come out of nowhere in the middle rounds at the crucial RB position, this might be your guy. Tremendous risk/reward play here.

1. One good week.2. One good week and now hurt

3. One good week

4. Both decent weeks and value play there.

5. TD made week one ok...

Pretty meh here...only bumping this to prove you are not patting yourself on the back for the other...or are you going to spin this to act like you are hitting on all of them?

please. sounds like jealousy to me. if we redrafted today, all of those guys, except for maybe brown would be picked high than what their adp was back when this was posted (hint: that means he was right). there is still a lot to go, but so far this is pretty good.

only 2 out of 5 are outperforming their ADP

uh no, 5 are. do you have a subscription here? they have a thing called rankings going forward, which is the same thing as saying "if we redrafted today"marhsall is 23

nicks is 48

mcGahee is 40

austin is 47

brown is 64

according to them, nicks is the only one that was wrong and thats only because of his injury. was he suppose to predict injury as well?

We are not drafting again today. The only thing we have to go by is performance.Using FFCalc and Standard scoring

Marshall WR3 (actual WR26) -23

Nicks WR23 (actual WR28) -5

McGahee RB21 (actual RB6) +15

Austin WR24 (actual WR7) +17

Brown RB27 (actual RB31) -4

Given that performance vs ADP is pretty much 50-50, these predictions are average at best. Lots of guys in that range outperforming their ADP by a pretty good clip.

 

[LHUCKS]

We are not drafting again today. The only thing we have to go by is performance.Using FFCalc and Standard scoringMarshall WR3 (actual WR26) -23Nicks WR23 (actual WR28) -5 McGahee RB21 (actual RB6) +15Austin WR24 (actual WR7) +17 Brown RB27 (actual RB31) -4Given that performance vs ADP is pretty much 50-50, these predictions are average at best. Lots of guys in that range outperforming their ADP by a pretty good clip.

Who can point out the obvious flaws in this logic?

 

[Short Corner]

We are not drafting again today. The only thing we have to go by is performance.Using FFCalc and Standard scoringMarshall WR3 (actual WR26) -23Nicks WR23 (actual WR28) -5 McGahee RB21 (actual RB6) +15Austin WR24 (actual WR7) +17 Brown RB27 (actual RB31) -4Given that performance vs ADP is pretty much 50-50, these predictions are average at best. Lots of guys in that range outperforming their ADP by a pretty good clip.

Who can point out the obvious flaws in this logic?

Give it a go Sparky

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

lol nice work on marshall outproducing the 30-75 range.

aren't you the heyward-bey guy?

ps

brown is a slug, as I mentioned in a couple threads back then.

 

[sho nuff]

Note: ADPs obtained from the leading fantasy league website.

1. Brandon Marshall ADP #37 - Marshall has already proven he is not a system WR with the strong numbers he put up in Miami. Since his Sopohomore year Marshall has never put up a season below 1000 yards and has only one season under 1100 yards. Add in the fact that the current version of Cutler will be the best QB Marshall has played with...1400/10 is not out of the realm of possibility. Huge value here, with very little risk IMO.

2. Hakeem Nicks ADP #40 - 1192/7 last year. Obviously a great yardage total, but after 11 TDs in just 13 games in 2010, the low 2011 TD total was IMO an aberration. You should see Nicks bounce back in the TD colum with another 70+ reception year with another healthy YPC average. He is in the prime of his career and so is his QB. Take Nicks who has top 5 WR upside with a relatively high floor.

3. Willis McGahee - ADP #58 - 1200 rushing yards and a healthy 4.8YPC in 2011. In 2012 he gets what will likely be a much improved offense with little competition for carries. 1400 total yards and 12 TDs are well within reach IMO. Not huge upside, but at the thin RB position you can do a lot worse in the middle rounds.

4. Miles Austin - ADP#59 - Coming off a down year and dealing with a preseason injury, Austin's ADP has presented a rare opportunity to grab top 5 WR upside in the 5th round. If you want PPG production Austin is a great value play. He might not play all 16, but you're drafting him for PPG value. Further, the other primary targets (Witten and Bryant) haven't exactly had stellar preseasons. Austin may be the only reliable target Romo has to begin the season with which could mean huge numbers that we know Miles is capable of putting up. One of my favorite values of the year...at any position.

5. Donald Brown - ADP#72 - 4.8 YPC over 134 carries in 2011 with an absolutely terrible supporting cast. I like what I've seen from Luck and the Colts offense and Brown is in line to be a significant beneficary of a vastly improved offense, particularly with a lack of competition during the preseason. Brown is playing for his next contract and has the personal incentive to put it all on the line. HE is not a slam dunk, but if you're looking for a guy to come out of nowhere in the middle rounds at the crucial RB position, this might be your guy. Tremendous risk/reward play here.

1. One good week.2. One good week and now hurt

3. One good week

4. Both decent weeks and value play there.

5. TD made week one ok...

Pretty meh here...only bumping this to prove you are not patting yourself on the back for the other...or are you going to spin this to act like you are hitting on all of them?

please. sounds like jealousy to me. if we redrafted today, all of those guys, except for maybe brown would be picked high than what their adp was back when this was posted (hint: that means he was right). there is still a lot to go, but so far this is pretty good.

Jealous of what?And doubtful many of them have moved up from their ADP.

Care to breakdown what I was wrong about in my 1-5 of their performances over the 2 weeks (+1 for Nicks).

And yes...if he wants to say he is right about Jennings in the overvalued thread because of injury...he has to take the hit on Nicks' injury too.

 

[flc735]

Note: ADPs obtained from the leading fantasy league website.

1. Brandon Marshall ADP #37 - Marshall has already proven he is not a system WR with the strong numbers he put up in Miami. Since his Sopohomore year Marshall has never put up a season below 1000 yards and has only one season under 1100 yards. Add in the fact that the current version of Cutler will be the best QB Marshall has played with...1400/10 is not out of the realm of possibility. Huge value here, with very little risk IMO.

2. Hakeem Nicks ADP #40 - 1192/7 last year. Obviously a great yardage total, but after 11 TDs in just 13 games in 2010, the low 2011 TD total was IMO an aberration. You should see Nicks bounce back in the TD colum with another 70+ reception year with another healthy YPC average. He is in the prime of his career and so is his QB. Take Nicks who has top 5 WR upside with a relatively high floor.

3. Willis McGahee - ADP #58 - 1200 rushing yards and a healthy 4.8YPC in 2011. In 2012 he gets what will likely be a much improved offense with little competition for carries. 1400 total yards and 12 TDs are well within reach IMO. Not huge upside, but at the thin RB position you can do a lot worse in the middle rounds.

4. Miles Austin - ADP#59 - Coming off a down year and dealing with a preseason injury, Austin's ADP has presented a rare opportunity to grab top 5 WR upside in the 5th round. If you want PPG production Austin is a great value play. He might not play all 16, but you're drafting him for PPG value. Further, the other primary targets (Witten and Bryant) haven't exactly had stellar preseasons. Austin may be the only reliable target Romo has to begin the season with which could mean huge numbers that we know Miles is capable of putting up. One of my favorite values of the year...at any position.

5. Donald Brown - ADP#72 - 4.8 YPC over 134 carries in 2011 with an absolutely terrible supporting cast. I like what I've seen from Luck and the Colts offense and Brown is in line to be a significant beneficary of a vastly improved offense, particularly with a lack of competition during the preseason. Brown is playing for his next contract and has the personal incentive to put it all on the line. HE is not a slam dunk, but if you're looking for a guy to come out of nowhere in the middle rounds at the crucial RB position, this might be your guy. Tremendous risk/reward play here.

1. One good week.2. One good week and now hurt

3. One good week

4. Both decent weeks and value play there.

5. TD made week one ok...

Pretty meh here...only bumping this to prove you are not patting yourself on the back for the other...or are you going to spin this to act like you are hitting on all of them?

please. sounds like jealousy to me. if we redrafted today, all of those guys, except for maybe brown would be picked high than what their adp was back when this was posted (hint: that means he was right). there is still a lot to go, but so far this is pretty good.

Jealous of what?And doubtful many of them have moved up from their ADP.

Care to breakdown what I was wrong about in my 1-5 of their performances over the 2 weeks (+1 for Nicks).

And yes...if he wants to say he is right about Jennings in the overvalued thread because of injury...he has to take the hit on Nicks' injury too.

he got 4/5 right on this thread (d brown) and 4/5 right on the other thread (trent). i would be happy to take nicks as the #5 WR off the board. that's the best argument you have?

jealousy: Feeling or showing envy of someone or their achievements and advantages

he did pretty good here and you are going out of your way to poop on it.

 

[flc735]

We are not drafting again today. The only thing we have to go by is performance.Using FFCalc and Standard scoringMarshall WR3 (actual WR26) -23Nicks WR23 (actual WR28) -5 McGahee RB21 (actual RB6) +15Austin WR24 (actual WR7) +17 Brown RB27 (actual RB31) -4Given that performance vs ADP is pretty much 50-50, these predictions are average at best. Lots of guys in that range outperforming their ADP by a pretty good clip.

Who can point out the obvious flaws in this logic?

Give it a go Sparky

for one, your post implies danny amendola would be drafted higher and is worth more going forward than calvin and donnie avery would be drafted higher and is worth more going forward than brandon mashall for example. are you saying avery will be a better receiver than marshal from hear on out? if so, i have good news for ya, you should be able to make that trade in any league.

 

[Kenny Powers]

We are not drafting again today. The only thing we have to go by is performance.Using FFCalc and Standard scoringMarshall WR3 (actual WR26) -23Nicks WR23 (actual WR28) -5 McGahee RB21 (actual RB6) +15Austin WR24 (actual WR7) +17 Brown RB27 (actual RB31) -4Given that performance vs ADP is pretty much 50-50, these predictions are average at best. Lots of guys in that range outperforming their ADP by a pretty good clip.

Who can point out the obvious flaws in this logic?

Give it a go Sparky

for one, your post implies danny amendola would be drafted higher and is worth more going forward than calvin and donnie avery would be drafted higher and is worth more going forward than brandon mashall for example. are you saying avery will be a better receiver than marshal from hear on out? if so, i have good news for ya, you should be able to make that trade in any league.

Case in point why its a premature bump

 

[Assani Fisher]

I wish people would make threads out of a desire to make the board better rather than in order to bump them if/when they are correct to brag.

Theres so much variance in picking 5 players who play a sport that uses a 16 game schedule that I don't think results oriented analysis is the way to go at all. Rather, I think we only need to look at the reasoning and thought process behind someone's picks and analyze that in order to judge.

 

[sho nuff]

he got 4/5 right on this thread (d brown) and 4/5 right on the other thread (trent). i would be happy to take nicks as the #5 WR off the board. that's the best argument you have?

jealousy: Feeling or showing envy of someone or their achievements and advantages

he did pretty good here and you are going out of your way to poop on it.

So you can't dispute where I listed out how he did NOT get 4/5 right? Yet you still claim it..And its after 2 weeks.I don't think I stated anything about not being happy to take Nicks. The guy has had one very good week...missed a week, and had a bad week out of his 3 games.Can you dispute this?4/38 week one. 0 in week 3 due to injury.He did not do as well as you think...and I don't think its going out of my way to point out the flaws in bumping any of these threads after 2 weeks...especially when one by one I broke down how they performed (in a pretty simplistic manner) and you cant even dispute what I wrote...you just tell me I am jealous and wrong.

 

[flc735]

he got 4/5 right on this thread (d brown) and 4/5 right on the other thread (trent). i would be happy to take nicks as the #5 WR off the board. that's the best argument you have?

jealousy: Feeling or showing envy of someone or their achievements and advantages

he did pretty good here and you are going out of your way to poop on it.

So you can't dispute where I listed out how he did NOT get 4/5 right? Yet you still claim it..And its after 2 weeks.I don't think I stated anything about not being happy to take Nicks. The guy has had one very good week...missed a week, and had a bad week out of his 3 games.Can you dispute this?4/38 week one. 0 in week 3 due to injury.He did not do as well as you think...and I don't think its going out of my way to point out the flaws in bumping any of these threads after 2 weeks...especially when one by one I broke down how they performed (in a pretty simplistic manner) and you cant even dispute what I wrote...you just tell me I am jealous and wrong.

your reaching here. its very simple. with the information i have today, i would take 4 of these guys higher than what their adp was when this post was made. there is not much more to it.

 

[flc735]

We are not drafting again today. The only thing we have to go by is performance.Using FFCalc and Standard scoringMarshall WR3 (actual WR26) -23Nicks WR23 (actual WR28) -5 McGahee RB21 (actual RB6) +15Austin WR24 (actual WR7) +17 Brown RB27 (actual RB31) -4Given that performance vs ADP is pretty much 50-50, these predictions are average at best. Lots of guys in that range outperforming their ADP by a pretty good clip.

Who can point out the obvious flaws in this logic?

Give it a go Sparky

for one, your post implies danny amendola would be drafted higher and is worth more going forward than calvin and donnie avery would be drafted higher and is worth more going forward than brandon mashall for example. are you saying avery will be a better receiver than marshal from hear on out? if so, i have good news for ya, you should be able to make that trade in any league.

Case in point why its a premature bump

he's right so far. that was the point of the bump. it was a "look, im right so far" bump. i dont know why you have a problem with that.

 

[sho nuff]

he got 4/5 right on this thread (d brown) and 4/5 right on the other thread (trent). i would be happy to take nicks as the #5 WR off the board. that's the best argument you have?

jealousy: Feeling or showing envy of someone or their achievements and advantages

he did pretty good here and you are going out of your way to poop on it.

So you can't dispute where I listed out how he did NOT get 4/5 right? Yet you still claim it..And its after 2 weeks.I don't think I stated anything about not being happy to take Nicks. The guy has had one very good week...missed a week, Iand had a bad week out of his 3 games.Can you dispute this?4/38 week one. 0 in week 3 due to injury.He did not do as well as you think...and I don't think its going out of my way to point out the flaws in bumping any of these threads after 2 weeks...especially when one by one I broke down how they performed (in a pretty simplistic manner) and you cant even dispute what I wrote...you just tell me I am jealous and wrong.

your reaching here. its very simple. with the information i have today, i would take 4 of these guys higher than what their adp was when this post was made. there is not much more to it.

If I was reaching sobad you would be able to refute the points I made about the players...which you keep avoiding.

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

your reaching here. its very simple. with the information i have today, i would take 4 of these guys higher than what their adp was when this post was made. there is not much more to it.

I need to get in a league with you then.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I wish people would make threads out of a desire to make the board better rather than in order to bump them if/when they are correct to brag. Theres so much variance in picking 5 players who play a sport that uses a 16 game schedule that I don't think results oriented analysis is the way to go at all. Rather, I think we only need to look at the reasoning and thought process behind someone's picks and analyze that in order to judge.

Uh, yeah, good luck with that Assani. In my experience, very few people in the SP are here looking for intellectual honesty. (which is one reason I spend very, very little time in here anymore. too much like being at work).Kudos to LHUCKS for putting his ideas out there.