Where do you get ADP data? (1 Viewer)

[Scoresman]

I'm looking for a reliable source of RECENT ADP data. By recent, I would ideally like to have the option to choose my time period for the data. For example, I'm much more interested in ADP over the last week than ADP data that is counting drafts from a month ago.

All of the ADP data I am finding seems woefully out of date. For example, it's telling me I can draft Chase Brown at the beginning of round 3, but in many mocks, he's going mid round 2 now.

Would also like clear distinction between Bestball and Managed leagues ADP. So many of the sites that offer ADP dont give this distinction and I dont know what data I'm actually using.

Ideally, I'd like to find a site that allows for

- selection of time period
- selection of site specific ADP data since I play on multiple sites
- distinction between redraft and managed.

Does this exist? Preferably not paywalled?

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

Fantasy Mojo for ffpc. It has a fee but worth more than any other thing I slend for fantasy

 

[greenmountaingoat]

I haven't done any underdog drafts yet this year- and they skew WR heavy in that format -- but in years past, the positional ADP seems pretty current.
Edit- and looking is free.

 

[greenmountaingoat]

I haven't done any underdog drafts yet this year- and they skew WR heavy in that format -- but in years past, the positional ADP seems pretty current.
Edit- and looking is free.

Right now Underdog ADP

WR only
Chase
Lamb
Jefferson
Nacua
Nabers
Collins
ARSB
Thomas
London
AJB
McConkey
Hill
Higgins
MHJ
Wilson
Adams
JSN
Evans
Rice
McLaurin
Worthy
McMillan
DJM
Pickens
Metcalf
Jamo
Sutton
Smith
Waddle
Ridley
Hunter
Flowers
Odunze
Olave
Deebo
Jennings
Persall
Jeudy
Addison
Meyers
Diggs
Egbuka
Golden
Reed

 

[OrganizedChaos]

This topic is a huge issue for me. I don't know what source, if any, can be trusted. I like to try and lay out various options of players I really like (possibly more than the average person) at different points in the draft to come out with a how the draft might unfold and what decisions I might have to make as the draft goes along. For instance if I really like 3 different players but they all are going off the board in round 9 then chances are I am getting only 1 of them (at best) unless I reach earlier. One example of a player with ADPs all over the board is Ricky Pearsall. FBGs Draft Dominator in my 0.5 PPR has him right now at 138 overall ADP. ESPN's current ADP is 118. FantasyPros has a real time ADP which is focused on the last week and ADP is 82. another site I use has ADP at 94. So where the heck do I try to get him if I want him? Picks 82 to 138 is quite the variance. I doubt I am going for him as early as 82 but the latter half of that range is much more appealing. I could come up with plenty of other player examples. ADP is basically worthless as a tool if we can't rely on the data. Granted in any draft players can go way before or after ADP but I would like to at least be in the ballpark of what to expect.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

So it’s always best to get ADP data from your league host’s site.

ESPN, Yahoo, MFL, NFFC, CBS, etc all have ADP available.

Chances are good if your league mates are using ADP, it’s from the league host site.

For general purposes, the NFFC has their real draft ADP available here

Average Draft Position - NFFC | High Stakes Fantasy Football

High Stakes Fantasy Football | Baseball | Basketball | Best Ball

nfc.shgn.com

The ROC contests use 3RR, but that doesn’t change the ADP, just which team is taking the players 1-12.

FFPC also has their contest ADP available here:

ADP Page - FFPC

The Home of High Stakes Fantasy Football

myffpc.com

Selecting the correct date range helps - I try not to go too recent because then your sample size might be like 3 drafts. But going too far back won’t have the most accurate data to reflect recent risers and fallers. 1 weeks is a nice time-frame.

 

[OrganizedChaos]

So it’s always best to get ADP data from your league host’s site.

ESPN, Yahoo, MFL, NFFC, CBS, etc all have ADP available.

Chances are good if your league mates are using ADP, it’s from the league host site.

Thanks for the feedback. I agree that has a lot of merit and I do track it. My league is on ESPN and I do look at their ADP. I am not concerned so much at other teams looking at the site's ADP and using that vs. where they typically slot the player in their rankings and thus the round they may be picked. For instance, if Pearsall is ranked WR43 then the latter range I mentioned above is about where he is picked but if he jumps up to WR35 for someone then he jumps up rounds ahead. If Pearsall is really coming off ESPN at 118 overall as ESPNs ADP says then he'll probably be on my team but I feel like he'll go much sooner than expected.

 

[Scoresman]

So it’s always best to get ADP data from your league host’s site.

ESPN, Yahoo, MFL, NFFC, CBS, etc all have ADP available.

Chances are good if your league mates are using ADP, it’s from the league host site.

For general purposes, the NFFC has their real draft ADP available here

Average Draft Position - NFFC | High Stakes Fantasy Football

High Stakes Fantasy Football | Baseball | Basketball | Best Ball

nfc.shgn.com

The ROC contests use 3RR, but that doesn’t change the ADP, just which team is taking the players 1-12.

FFPC also has their contest ADP available here:

ADP Page - FFPC

The Home of High Stakes Fantasy Football

myffpc.com

Selecting the correct date range helps - I try not to go too recent because then your sample size might be like 3 drafts. But going too far back won’t have the most accurate data to reflect recent risers and fallers. 1 weeks is a nice time-frame.

The NFFC sites are probably the best mainly because it lets you specify a date range which to me is a huge must. But at a cursory glance, those leagues appear to have some non-standard rules like a third WR and 3rd round reversal which might affect ADP.

It's amazing there seems to be a void of this info.

But the date range is a must to me. I want to see where Omarion Hampton and TreVeyon Henderson have been going over the last week, not an ADP that includes data from mid-July.

@Joe Bryant there seems to be an opportunity for FBG to fill this hole. ADP not only by site, but by date range. Would be super valuable and not really widely available.

 

[OrganizedChaos]

I will take a look at the NFFC sites. I am down to one league now and I doubt they are as knowledgeable as the ones playing NFFC but I do like the date range option.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Thanks for the feedback. I agree that has a lot of merit and I do track it. My league is on ESPN and I do look at their ADP. I am not concerned so much at other teams looking at the site's ADP and using that vs. where they typically slot the player in their rankings and thus the round they may be picked. For instance, if Pearsall is ranked WR43 then the latter range I mentioned above is about where he is picked but if he jumps up to WR35 for someone then he jumps up rounds ahead. If Pearsall is really coming off ESPN at 118 overall as ESPNs ADP says then he'll probably be on my team but I feel like he'll go much sooner than expected.

ADP =/= rankings

Wholly different but related things. What I look for in ADP is where the host site has it wrong (players way too early or later than they should be)

But yeah - my only point about the host league is it’s a pretty safe bet that if others in your league are looking at ADP, they’re most likely looking at the host site. That says nothing about how you or your league-mates rank players. That’s an entirely different discussion.

Anyway, I posted a couple of useful links above.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The NFFC sites are probably the best mainly because it lets you specify a date range which to me is a huge must.

The FFPC allows for date range search as well.

it’s important on both to select the right format (1 QB vs SF, PPR, etc)

It would be nice if they had those as clickable filters rather than having to become familiar with which contests are which.

 

[Chaka]

My secret website for all things fantasy football, including ADP, is called footballguys.com

Please don't tell my league mates.

 

[OrganizedChaos]

My secret website for all things fantasy football, including ADP, is called footballguys.com

Please don't tell my league mates.

We will have to agree to disagree on FBG's ADP data. It has always seemed to me a bit slow to react and thus lagging in moving players up or down. Pearsall is (I think) one good example. FBG has his ADP as almost a 15th round pick in a 10 team league. I would trust all of the other sources I listed more than that one.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

This gets updated daily

ADP Fantasy Football Rankings | 4for4

Get the most accurate daily ADP rankings with the ability to create a custom league to sync rosters for enhanced personalized precision.

www.4for4.com

 

[TampaMike19]

This gets updated daily

ADP Fantasy Football Rankings | 4for4

Get the most accurate daily ADP rankings with the ability to create a custom league to sync rosters for enhanced personalized precision.

www.4for4.com

Filtering for ESPN, Sleeper, and Y looks like a nice tool to have.

 

[Chaka]

IMHO ADP is one of the most overused, overvalued and misunderstood metrics in fantasy football.

 

[Chaka]

My secret website for all things fantasy football, including ADP, is called footballguys.com

Please don't tell my league mates.

We will have to agree to disagree on FBG's ADP data. It has always seemed to me a bit slow to react and thus lagging in moving players up or down. Pearsall is (I think) one good example. FBG has his ADP as almost a 15th round pick in a 10 team league. I would trust all of the other sources I listed more than that one.

That's fair, I guess. I have never timed the pace changes of different ADP aggregators. I have also never looked into where they get their information, how they parse it relative to different relative league formats and how, or if, they weight their data.

So, what kind of edge do you believe that speed provides you?

 

[OrganizedChaos]

My secret website for all things fantasy football, including ADP, is called footballguys.com

Please don't tell my league mates.

We will have to agree to disagree on FBG's ADP data. It has always seemed to me a bit slow to react and thus lagging in moving players up or down. Pearsall is (I think) one good example. FBG has his ADP as almost a 15th round pick in a 10 team league. I would trust all of the other sources I listed more than that one.

That's fair, I guess. I have never timed the pace changes of different ADP aggregators. I have also never looked into where they get their information, how they parse it relative to different relative league formats and how, or if, they weight their data.

So, what kind of edge do you believe that speed provides you?

I can't quantify the edge I get but I think it helps me understand better how to put a more cohesive (realistic) draft plan together and also prepare me to pivot different directions as the draft unfolds. The closer the ADP data is to being correct the better the plan I have will be.

I try to put together various scenarios of players I like throughout the draft to better understand where I need to draft players and be able to pivot to another plan as things change throughout the draft. For instance, I like to draft QBs late and the same with TE but after looking at it the QBs I was considering go around the same time as the TE I was hoping to get. So I need to realize that plan most likely won't work and change my plan ahead of the draft.

I don't just use ADP. I use the site rankings where the league is hosted, FBG and two other fantasy content site rankings, and ADP to guesstimate as best I can where players might go. I also do mock drafts in advance to see what happens as I try those scenarios out.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

IMHO ADP is one of the most overused, overvalued and misunderstood metrics in fantasy football.

Counterpoint: It’s only over-valued if it misunderstood.

 

[menobrown]

Fantasy Mojo for ffpc. It has a fee but worth more than any other thing I slend for fantasy

Same. The site is priced higher then it should be IMO, looks like it was created in the late 90's and for the price should offer more tweaks but it's recent and real info on actual money drafts. Mocks and low to no money ADP data is trash.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

So, what kind of edge do you believe that speed provides you?

Real time data is always critical with ADP. I rarely search more than a week back.

For one recent example, JCM went from near total obscurity, to a 4th round rookie pick, to a 2nd round rookie pick. And in Redraft went from un-draftable, to a 13-15th round dart throw, to a 11th-12th rounder, to where he was picked 9.05 in my ROC draft yesterday, all in about a 10 day span.

I have a ROC draft today, and I might be the dude taking him at 9.03 based on comments from some of the folks here I trust the most.

So yeah - being up to date is critical. If you’re targeting the right players in the wrong rounds, it doesn’t matter how good your rankings/draft plan is.

I’ll add that aggregating ADP from various sites is far more damaging than it is useful. For the ADP to matter it must be in the context of the league in which you’re drafting. Otherwise it’s like jumping in a car in England but failing to drive on the correct side of the road. Your vehicle might be fine, but you’re using it wrong.

 

[Chaka]

IMHO ADP is one of the most overused, overvalued and misunderstood metrics in fantasy football.

Counterpoint: It’s only over-valued if it misunderstood.

Fair enough. Then again I did say: IMHO ADP is one of the most overused, overvalued and misunderstood metrics in fantasy football.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Fair enough. Then again I did say: IMHO ADP is one of the most overused, overvalued and misunderstood metrics in fantasy football.

Yes, I understood it without the tantalizing fonts.