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Lions have worst owner in the NFL (1 Viewer)

'Aaron Rudnicki said:
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201111/nfls-worst-owner-over-last-five-yearsworst 5:1. Lions2. Raiders3. Bills4. Browns5. Bengals3 of these teams play in new stadiums.best 5:1. Giants2. Patriots3. Colts4. Packers5. Cowboys
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Ford has been a pretty awful owner. The Lions appear to have turned things around but the fact is, the Lions have won only one playoff game since Super Bowl 1 and that's about as pathetic as you get.For me, I'd rank the Patriots 1 and the Packers 2.I'm not sure if I'd put the Cowboys in the top 5, because Jerry Jones can do just as much bad as he does good. Is he involved, yes, probably as much or more so than any other owner. Is that a good thing that he's sooo involved, you will get mixed opinions on that, although he could care less what our opinion is on that subject. I'm surprised the Eagles didn't make top 5 with all the success they've had the last 15 years or so.
 
The only reason Dan Snyder isn't at the top of this list is because the writers are afraid he would sue them for libel.

 
'Sweet Love said:
'Aaron Rudnicki said:
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201111/nfls-worst-owner-over-last-five-years

worst 5:

1. Lions

2. Raiders

3. Bills

4. Browns

5. Bengals

3 of these teams play in new stadiums.

best 5:

1. Giants

2. Patriots

3. Colts

4. Packers

5. Cowboys
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I smell it...what are you trying to draw us out to? They have not been awful owners because they have lobbied successfully for new stadiums? Where are you going?
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This is not new news to most Lions fans. The fact that he finally hired some guys that have things moving in the right direction does not change all the years leading up to this year. The Lions need to be good for several years for Ford to get off this list.
 
'Sweet Love said:
I smell it...what are you trying to draw us out to? They have not been awful owners because they have lobbied successfully for new stadiums? Where are you going?
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the focus of the article appears to be based on revenue and improving the value of the franchise. surprising to see 3 of the bottom 5 teams playing in state of the art facilities since that (i.e., outdated facilites, lack of luxury boxes, etc.) is often the reason given for why teams can't compete in today's NFL.
 
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'Aaron Rudnicki said:
'Sweet Love said:
I smell it...what are you trying to draw us out to? They have not been awful owners because they have lobbied successfully for new stadiums? Where are you going?
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the focus of the article appears to be based on revenue and improving the value of the franchise. surprising to see 3 of the bottom 5 teams playing in state of the art facilities since that (i.e., outdated facilites, lack of luxury boxes, etc.) is often the reason given for why teams can't compete in today's NFL.
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And if that's the purpose of the article, then how aren't the Bears on the list? The same publication reported this just over 2 years ago and nothing, outside of George taking over Mike, has changed since then.http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0913/nfl-values-10-bears-chicago-football-money-midgets-midway.html
 
Saints in top 10? Wasn't their owner going to move the team until Katrina and the team actually getting good?

Funny how the list correlates to winning percentage over the last decade so heavily. Are we really prepared to argue that the difference between winning and losing teams is the owner?

And FWIW, I think it's a sham to call Robert Kraft a great owner too. Without getting lucky and having a 7th round pick turn into one of the greatest QBs of all time, that team is nothing more than mediocre and their fickle fanbase wouldn't be half what it is now and the team's value would reflect that.

 
'GroveDiesel said:
I think it's a sham to call Robert Kraft a great owner too. Without getting lucky and having a 7th round pick turn into one of the greatest QBs of all time, that team is nothing more than mediocre and their fickle fanbase wouldn't be half what it is now and the team's value would reflect that.
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The Irsays do not belong on that "Best" list.

The idea of the Saints ownership being on the "Best" is hilarious; wow how far they have come. From hiring an astronaut as GM, trading the starting QB for dating the owner's secretary, to coaches flipping birds at fans, trading away, releasing and passing on multiple Hall of Famers... to workouts in parking lots and getting into yelling tiffs at Tiger Stadium and being within a breath of taking the team to San Antonio or L.A. .... to having one of the most valuable teams in all of sports. Unbelievable; the people of New Orleans and LA/MS are the best, Benson is an old curmudgeon whose greed and tenacity meeting with luck got him here.

 
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I'll take Jerry's meddling all day over teams like the Bears or Bills not wanting to pay their best player. I'll even take Jerry over "successful" owners like Mara or Kraft who alienate (or get rid of) some of their best players b/c they don't want to pay them either. Especially Kraft, he'll be in for a rude awakening when Belichick and Brady are gone. Kraft's gotten by on a hall of fame QB/Coach combo that's taught him cutting ties with superstars before their big payday can be a successful formula.

That might work when you got two hall of famers leading your team, but that formula will send the Patriots to their doom once those two are gone.

Jerry made a few big mistakes, notably the Roy Williams/Galloway trades. A few bad contracts as well. But he doesn't get enough credit for some of the under the table positive stuff he does. Locking up the best players on the team seems like an obvious thing to do, and Jerry's the most willing to do it.

Also, I heard a few years ago when the Cowboys had 2 first rounders, Parcells was actually going to take Spears at 9 or 10 instead of Ware. Apparently Jerry desperately wanted Ware and convinced Parcells that taking Ware 1st was the right move b/c he was sure Spears would still be there in the 20s. I'd call that meddling.

 
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'LargeMouthBass said:
Browns will take over the worst spot after this year...
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Don't confuse the Browns sucking with having a bad owner. Lerner gets the eff out of the way and opens his checkbook. That's all I really want an owner to do.The main problem he's had is hiring the right people. I think Holmgren is a pretty good hire. It's his show now. Lerner just writes the checks.Also, in terms of revenue I think the Browns are doing fine. They consistently sell out their games. It's not like those teams in Florida where you have blackouts all the time.I don't think Lerner should be in the bottom 5. Now, if you were to make a list of "crappiest football teams", then sure put the Browns at the top of that one.
 
The Cardinals don't make the bottom 10?? I don't care what the criteria is. Any list of "worst NFL owners" not including the Cardinals is bunch of hooey.

 
Setting the financials aside (and I realize $$ have a bunch to do with how this list is ordered) - just from a fan's perspective - I'd put the Rooneys at #1.

As a Ravens fan, I love Bisciotti as an owner. Spends money on first-class facilities and personnel, then stays out of the way until he has to step in (some say he stayed out of the way about 2 years too long with Billick). He lets Ozzie and the personnel department do their thing. He's relatively young, dynamic, self-made, and is a realist. I've met him and he's very impressive.

 
This article isn't about the "best" or "worst" owners.. it's about which owners make the most money with their organization...

You could be an extreme ####### of an owner, but make SHIPLOADS with your team and you'd be in the top 5 "best" owners...

Not surprising to see that the "best" owners have a tradition of winning team (thus = more revenue) and the "worst" are or were

perennial losers... I'd like to see where the Lions & Bills place in a few more years.

 
Forbes is dumb for calling it best/worst owners. Look at the top and bottom 10 - it's basically a list of the teams that have been good and bad recently (respectively).

While the are certain considerations (stadium, market, owners' willingness to invest, etc) being a good team and making the playoffs means more money and more interested fans buying tickets, etc. during the season.

 
The Bills make money. That certainly isn't the problem with Ralph Wilson. With the 78 mil. they pulled in with the Toronto deal and the fact that they're operating 20 mil. under the cap. The whole premise of this article is pretty flawed.

 
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'GroveDiesel said:
And FWIW, I think it's a sham to call Robert Kraft a great owner too. Without getting lucky and having a 7th round pick turn into one of the greatest QBs of all time, that team is nothing more than mediocre and their fickle fanbase wouldn't be half what it is now and the team's value would reflect that.
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Well, let's see. The Patriots have sold out every game since the opener in 1994, which was the year Kraft bought the team. They won two division titles and made the playoffs 4-of-6 seasons (including one Super Bowl) before Belichick and/or Brady ever arrived. Not to mention that he got plans approved for Gillette Stadium and broke ground before Belichick ever coached one game in Foxboro.It remains to be seen whether the success can continue post-Belichick/Brady, but let's not pretend the franchise didn't have any success or a fanbase before 2001.
 
'Area51Inhabitant said:
The Bills make money. That certainly isn't the problem with Ralph Wilson. With the 78 mil. they pulled in with the Toronto deal and the fact that they're operating 20 mil. under the cap. The whole premise of this article is pretty flawed.
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Well, yeah, if you read the title of the article, every NFL team "made money" except for the Lions. It's just that 29 other teams made more money than the Bills, leaving them as the third worst.I agree that the article is flawed by saying they have the "worst owners"...I think it would be much more accurate to say they are the "worst teams to own", since they are the least profitable.
 
Really too lazy to look, but I could've sworn I heard a report about the Bills being one of the most profitable teams in the NFL, just a month or so ago.

 
There is no question that Dan Snyder is the worst owner in the history of professional sports. You will never, ever convince me otherwise. Try being a Redskins fan for the last decade.

 
'Dippa said:
'rizzler said:
Really too lazy to look, but I could've sworn I heard a report about the Bills being one of the most profitable teams in the NFL, just a month or so ago.
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Actually, you're right...NFL's Most Profitable TeamsNot sure why Forbes said they were the 10th most profitable a couple months ago, and now say they're the third worst...
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I see how it works... They're one of the most profitable, but 29th when it comes to Net worth.

Says the report.

 
'rizzler said:
Really too lazy to look, but I could've sworn I heard a report about the Bills being one of the most profitable teams in the NFL, just a month or so ago.
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I don't think this is possible.They spend very little, but they generate very little revenue as well. Their stadium is probably one of the larger ones and they sell out consistently now, but they rank among the lowest in ticket costs and can't charge a fortune for luxury boxes and stuff.EDIT: I guess I was wrong. Still surprising to me.
 
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'Aaron Rudnicki said:
'rizzler said:
Really too lazy to look, but I could've sworn I heard a report about the Bills being one of the most profitable teams in the NFL, just a month or so ago.
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I don't think this is possible.They spend very little, but they generate very little revenue as well. Their stadium is probably one of the larger ones and they sell out consistently now, but they rank among the lowest in ticket costs and can't charge a fortune for luxury boxes and stuff.EDIT: I guess I was wrong. Still surprising to me.
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Yes, but they also have no debt load, unlike a lot of other teams. That goes a LONG way towards generating a net profit. I remember reading that Jerry Jones would have been in a LOT of trouble if the labor situation had canceled this season due to his required debt payments and losing the guaranteed DirecTv money.
 
Lions may have one of if not the worst owners in the league. However, their fans are some of the best in the league. Sticking to that team for the post Barry years has been difficult.

 
'DrapedInVelvet said:
There is no question that Dan Snyder is the worst owner in the history of professional sports. You will never, ever convince me otherwise. Try being a Redskins fan for the last decade.
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When Bill Tobin owned the Chicago Blackhawks he was an employee/puppet of James Norris, who owned the Red Wings. The Blackhawks were just used to stack the Red Wings' roster for over a decade. How would you like that? :lmao:
 
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'Aaron Rudnicki said:
'rizzler said:
Really too lazy to look, but I could've sworn I heard a report about the Bills being one of the most profitable teams in the NFL, just a month or so ago.
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I don't think this is possible.They spend very little, but they generate very little revenue as well. Their stadium is probably one of the larger ones and they sell out consistently now, but they rank among the lowest in ticket costs and can't charge a fortune for luxury boxes and stuff.EDIT: I guess I was wrong. Still surprising to me.
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