fred_1_15301
Footballguy
You've mentioned Blount a few times in this thread but he hasn't exactly been a big factor for the Eagles in quite some time now. He's not even the same RB that he was in NE.
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Anarchy99
Footballguy
Even with Blount and Ajayi, PHI averaged 50 fewer rushing yards per game in December than they did in their first 11 games. Dropping from 147 yards and change to 98 yards per game. Defensively, they've allowed 110 yards per game vs. 65 yds/gm the first 11 weeks. Both of those are trending in the wrong direction. And they haven't faced a backfield like Ingram and Kamara.
Can't remember where I heard this, but apparently one of Wentz's underappreciated talents was pre-snap reads. In other words, the running game did better when he was under center because he set them up for success.
Of course, there's also the more straightforward effect where the running game performs worse because teams no longer have to worry about an MVP candidate destroying them through the air and can get away with stacking the box.
In terms of talent, maybe. But one was a vet at the tail end of his career and the other was a rookie. They combined for less than 1,500 YFS that year.
Then again, Ajayi and Blount only had 1,200 this year.
I think the moral of the story is that the Eagles have never had much RB depth.
Agreed. And throw in Clemons and they are really solid.
But like the poster above mentioned, if they have zero fear of Foles, it's not hard to stop the run.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
This somewhat applies to Brady too and his sudden end of season "decline." Yes, he had more INTs and fewer completions, and people have pointed to him throwing for fewer yards. But the Pats took what was available and had 3 December games with almost 200 yards rushing. Yards are yards, points are points, and wins are wins.It's a quarterback's job to move the ball.
Put another way, the Patriots are a whopping 54-1 when they rush for 150 yards with Brady at QB since he came to town. So the Patriots probably don't care if Brady throws for fewer yards when they can run the football.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I agree but MVP voting almost always comes down to pretty stats. Under Bill Cowher the Steelers had a ridiculous record when the team rushed for more than 100 yards but no one was clamoring for MVP awards for Neil O'Donnell, Mike Tomczak and Kordell Stewart.
Brady's overall numbers for the 2017 season are good enough to qualify for MVP consideration but if you're going to use them you have to acknowledge they were pretty pedestrian in the second half of the season. And let's not forget that in season's past Brady & Belichick have always had the reputation of running up the score via the air whether they had a running game or not.
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Anarchy99
Footballguy
As I mentioned in the MVP thread, Brady is probably banged up but look at what he had to deal with this year . . .
No Edelman or Mitchell all year. Only half a year of Hogan. Gronk out for a couple games (and essentially written out of the game plan for Week 17). Burkhead missed 6 games and White was dinged down the stretch. All of the fill ins did close to nothing (Bennett, Dorsett, Britt).
The O line had its own issues. Marcus Cannon missed half the year and went on IR. Sebastian Vollmer retired. Cameron Fleming missed a quarter of the season. Nate Solder was banged up the entire season. Brady got hit and sacked a ton this year.
So sure, they ended up relying on the run more because they had a bunch of guys hurt. But they still won. And Brady still put up big numbers early to mid season (which has been his M.O. most of his career . . . great early on, average later in the regular season). He still was at or near the top in all the traditional QB categories this year and the more modern analytical ones as well. Does it really matter what performances occurred when? The total numbers are the same no matter when the games were played. And Brady still did best at the end of games when it mattered to pull out wins.
This year, more than others, the Pats got the lead and went pretty conservative and didn't try to pile on the points late in games. They were more interested in keeping people healthy and running the clock. They had 8 wins where they had double digit leads in the second half. Ten years ago they would have tried to win by 30. Not so much this time around. Does having a big lead and not throwing as much hurt a QB's playoff chances? He still led the league in passing yards.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Wild Card:
Bills>Jags
Chiefs>Titans
Rams>Falcons
Saints>Panthers
Division:
Pats>Bills
Steelers>Chiefs
Saints>Eagles
Vikings>Rams
Conference:
Pats>Steelers
Vikings>Saints
Super Bowl:
Vikings>Pats
Bills>Jags
Chiefs>Titans
Rams>Falcons
Saints>Panthers
Division:
Pats>Bills
Steelers>Chiefs
Saints>Eagles
Vikings>Rams
Conference:
Pats>Steelers
Vikings>Saints
Super Bowl:
Vikings>Pats
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
If Cam is on sure. Panthers are nearly unbeatable if his throws are on and he is running. Cam also has a completion % of 52, 41, and 39% 3 of his last 7 games. Not really feeling confident with those numbers.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
As I said Brady's stats are good enough to make him a worthy MVP candidate so I'm not sure why we need to make excuses for him. All players have to deal with injuries to teammates and situations that affected their performances that may have been beyond their control. Why should Brady get a pass and no one else?
Bottom line is Brady's second half stats weren't anything to write home about. I'm not saying that should disqualify him for MVP because his team won but it should be a factor when considering him for MVP verses other players.
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
I kind of agree with all this except I think Min makes it to the SB.
FWIW, it wouldn't shock me if KC beat NE and or Jac beat Pit (especially if ab out) with the latter slightly more likely imho.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Anything is possible but without McCoy how do you think this happens? Do the bills D get a few pick 6s?
NeverEnough
Footballguy
Just give me a SB without the Steelers or Pats this year, thanks.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Tanner9919
Footballguy
defenses win champhionships right???
AFC Wild Card Playoff: Chiefs over Titans
NFC Wild Card Playoff: Rams
AFC Wild Card Playoff: Jaguars
NFC Wild Card Playoff: Panthers
NFC Divisional Playoff: Panthers over eagles
AFC Divisional Playoff: Patriots over chiefs
AFC Divisional Playoff: Jags clobber steelers like they did in Oct.
NFC Divisional Playoff: Vikings clobber Rams
AFC Championship: Jags pound the Pats with defense.
NFC Championship: Vikings over Panthers in a close one
Vikings V Jags
Vikings win SB..
those who think the Panthers wont win in N.O. are the same ones saying Saints will win in Philly the following week. .In cold January.outdoors. NOT happening..N.O. is a good story this season, but Carolina is peaking at the right time...ya need to check the Saints' record outdoors in cold weather, esp in playoffs ...no bueno..
Pats wont beat a Tom Coughlin Jaguars team. Steelers wont beat Jags either. you worry about Bortles but if i'm NE I'm worried about Jags run game, their WR's, and the ferocious defense..
I CANNOT believe how many Vikings non-believers there are in here.wow.they're the BEST team in the NFL bar none.they play indoors throughout the playoffs ( yes, I'm summarily dismissing the Eagles and any chance they have of even winning a game - they're 1-n-done).Vikings have been better and have been flying under the radar all season long..
I dont get it. Keenum has been playing lights out..usually when a guy gets on a streak like that, it continues..and that defense hits hard.
and Jags might have the best defense since Denver couple years back, or Legion of Boom.they're playing at a historically great level .
if there's one thing that could happen is that NE could be a bit iffy vs. Chiefs ..you saw a glimpse of this last season with the Texans in the Div round..Chiefs will give them fits.
but Andy Reid doesn't win playoff games, like, ever.so there's that..
AFC Wild Card Playoff: Chiefs over Titans
NFC Wild Card Playoff: Rams
AFC Wild Card Playoff: Jaguars
NFC Wild Card Playoff: Panthers
NFC Divisional Playoff: Panthers over eagles
AFC Divisional Playoff: Patriots over chiefs
AFC Divisional Playoff: Jags clobber steelers like they did in Oct.
NFC Divisional Playoff: Vikings clobber Rams
AFC Championship: Jags pound the Pats with defense.
NFC Championship: Vikings over Panthers in a close one
Vikings V Jags
Vikings win SB..
those who think the Panthers wont win in N.O. are the same ones saying Saints will win in Philly the following week. .In cold January.outdoors. NOT happening..N.O. is a good story this season, but Carolina is peaking at the right time...ya need to check the Saints' record outdoors in cold weather, esp in playoffs ...no bueno..
Pats wont beat a Tom Coughlin Jaguars team. Steelers wont beat Jags either. you worry about Bortles but if i'm NE I'm worried about Jags run game, their WR's, and the ferocious defense..
I CANNOT believe how many Vikings non-believers there are in here.wow.they're the BEST team in the NFL bar none.they play indoors throughout the playoffs ( yes, I'm summarily dismissing the Eagles and any chance they have of even winning a game - they're 1-n-done).Vikings have been better and have been flying under the radar all season long..
I dont get it. Keenum has been playing lights out..usually when a guy gets on a streak like that, it continues..and that defense hits hard.
and Jags might have the best defense since Denver couple years back, or Legion of Boom.they're playing at a historically great level .
if there's one thing that could happen is that NE could be a bit iffy vs. Chiefs ..you saw a glimpse of this last season with the Texans in the Div round..Chiefs will give them fits.
but Andy Reid doesn't win playoff games, like, ever.so there's that..
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Except for the fact that he has the 12th most postseason wins of any coach in the history of the game
Chaka
Footballguy
Dunno, just a feeling that Jax is primed for a let down.
Interestingly (or not... whatever) I think Jax has the best shot of upsetting the Pats if they make it past Buffalo.
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bud29
Footballguy
Disclaimer:
AFC Wild Card: Chiefs over Titans - How much does it really count when your only two wins against playoff teams this year are both against Blake Bortles?
AFC Wild Card: Jaguars over Bills - It seems like every season, there's a real mediocre AFC wild card team that sneaks in, gets hammered, and we watch every minute of that totally forgettable game, because playoff football baby! Anyways, this year we seem to be blessed with TWO such games. Truly the NFL gods have smiled down upon us. Shark move here is to root for the Bills in hopes of more dildo-throwing at the ensuing BUF/NE game, but that could be asking for a bit much.
NFC Wild Card: Saints over Panthers - Jerry Richardson is an ###.
NFC Wild Card: Rams over Falcons - Besides my homer team (KC) losing in the first round, the Falcons winning here would be the most upsetting outcome of wildcard weekend. The Rams are young and fun. The Falcons are not.
AFC Divisional: Patriots over Chiefs - LOL, this again. The AFC playoffs slogan since, like, 2004.
AFC Divisional: Steelers over Jaguars - If the Jags pull this off, shut off the TV and don't watch another game all year. Nothing will top the incredible Brown/Bell/Ben/JuJu juggernaut falling to Blake Bortles.
NFC Divisional: Saints over Eagles - They absolutely suck without Wentz.
NFC Divisional: Vikings over Rams - Will be hard to beat an elite, rested defense. I think this is where the LA gravy train comes to a stop.
AFC Championship: Patriots over Steelers - #######it
NFC Championship: Saints over Vikings - Look, I don't want a Case Keenum vs. Tom Brady super bowl. That doesn't even give me a shred of hope that the Pats will lose. I at least want a healthy dose of delusion before Darth Hoodie steps in and ruins the entire ####### season. 28-3, that was the good stuff.
Super Bowl: Saints over Patriots - Suck it!
I need to go to bed.
These are 100% correct
AFC Wild Card: Jaguars over Bills - It seems like every season, there's a real mediocre AFC wild card team that sneaks in, gets hammered, and we watch every minute of that totally forgettable game, because playoff football baby! Anyways, this year we seem to be blessed with TWO such games. Truly the NFL gods have smiled down upon us. Shark move here is to root for the Bills in hopes of more dildo-throwing at the ensuing BUF/NE game, but that could be asking for a bit much.
NFC Wild Card: Saints over Panthers - Jerry Richardson is an ###.
NFC Wild Card: Rams over Falcons - Besides my homer team (KC) losing in the first round, the Falcons winning here would be the most upsetting outcome of wildcard weekend. The Rams are young and fun. The Falcons are not.
AFC Divisional: Patriots over Chiefs - LOL, this again. The AFC playoffs slogan since, like, 2004.
AFC Divisional: Steelers over Jaguars - If the Jags pull this off, shut off the TV and don't watch another game all year. Nothing will top the incredible Brown/Bell/Ben/JuJu juggernaut falling to Blake Bortles.
NFC Divisional: Saints over Eagles - They absolutely suck without Wentz.
NFC Divisional: Vikings over Rams - Will be hard to beat an elite, rested defense. I think this is where the LA gravy train comes to a stop.
AFC Championship: Patriots over Steelers - #######it
NFC Championship: Saints over Vikings - Look, I don't want a Case Keenum vs. Tom Brady super bowl. That doesn't even give me a shred of hope that the Pats will lose. I at least want a healthy dose of delusion before Darth Hoodie steps in and ruins the entire ####### season. 28-3, that was the good stuff.
Super Bowl: Saints over Patriots - Suck it!
I need to go to bed.
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Riversco
Footballguy
Records of playoff teams vs other playoff teams & vs non playoff teams
Patriots: 5-2 (1 loss to non playoff teams) (vs miami in week 14)
Steelers: 3-2 (1 loss to non playoff teams) (vs chicago in week 3)
Jaguars: 1-3 (3 losses to non playoff teams)
Chiefs: 2-2 (4 losses to non playoff teams)
Titans: 2-2 (5 losses to non playoff teams)
Bills: 2-4 (3 losses to non playoff teams)
Eagles: 2-1 (2 losses to non playoff teams)
Vikings: 3-2 (1 loss to non playoff teams) (vs detroit in week 4)
Rams: 3-2 (3 losses to non playoff teams)
Saints: 4-4 (1 loss to non playoff teams) (vs tampa in week 17)
Panthers: 4-4 (1 loss to non playoff teams) (vs chicago in week 7)
Falcons: 2-5 (1 loss to non playoff teams) (vs miami in week 6)
Records in games where they did NOT force more than 1 turnover:
Patriots: 8-2
Steelers: 8-2
Jaguars: 3-4
Chiefs: 3-6
Titans: 4-6
Bills: 3-6
Eagles: 4-3
Vikings: 6-3
Rams: 3-3
Saints: 7-3
Panthers: 6-5
Falcons: 5-6
The Patriots are obviously the class of the NFL. Its the NFC that is murky.
Jaguars over Bills
Chiefs over Titans
Steelers over Jaguars
Patriots over Chiefs
Patriots over Steelers
Rams over Falcons
Saints over Panthers
Saints over Eagles
Vikings over Rams
Saints over Vikings
Patriots over Saints
Patriots: 5-2 (1 loss to non playoff teams) (vs miami in week 14)
Steelers: 3-2 (1 loss to non playoff teams) (vs chicago in week 3)
Jaguars: 1-3 (3 losses to non playoff teams)
Chiefs: 2-2 (4 losses to non playoff teams)
Titans: 2-2 (5 losses to non playoff teams)
Bills: 2-4 (3 losses to non playoff teams)
Eagles: 2-1 (2 losses to non playoff teams)
Vikings: 3-2 (1 loss to non playoff teams) (vs detroit in week 4)
Rams: 3-2 (3 losses to non playoff teams)
Saints: 4-4 (1 loss to non playoff teams) (vs tampa in week 17)
Panthers: 4-4 (1 loss to non playoff teams) (vs chicago in week 7)
Falcons: 2-5 (1 loss to non playoff teams) (vs miami in week 6)
Records in games where they did NOT force more than 1 turnover:
Patriots: 8-2
Steelers: 8-2
Jaguars: 3-4
Chiefs: 3-6
Titans: 4-6
Bills: 3-6
Eagles: 4-3
Vikings: 6-3
Rams: 3-3
Saints: 7-3
Panthers: 6-5
Falcons: 5-6
The Patriots are obviously the class of the NFL. Its the NFC that is murky.
Jaguars over Bills
Chiefs over Titans
Steelers over Jaguars
Patriots over Chiefs
Patriots over Steelers
Rams over Falcons
Saints over Panthers
Saints over Eagles
Vikings over Rams
Saints over Vikings
Patriots over Saints
Riversco
Footballguy
The Steelers, Patriots, and Broncos have collectively represented the AFC in just under half of ALL super bowls ever. Steelers 8 times, Patriots 9 times, Broncos 8 times for a total of 25 out of 51 super bowls. If the Patriots or Steelers reach the Super Bowl this year, the "Power 3" will reach 50%.
need2know
Footballguy
yeah. the correct response would be he doesnt win conference champs or super bowlsExcept for the fact that he has the 12th most postseason wins of any coach in the history of the game
need2know
Footballguy
by your defense logic then the eagles will beat carolina. carolinas offense has been just as bad in recent weeks as the eagles and the eagles defense > carolina and they are at home.
i think the saints beat carolina though
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Rams over Falcons
Saints over Panthers
Titans over Chiefs
Jaguars over Bills
Saints over Eagles
Vikings over Rams
Titans over Patriots
Jaguars over Steelers
Saints over Vikings
Titans over Jaguars
Saints over Titans
Saints over Panthers
Titans over Chiefs
Jaguars over Bills
Saints over Eagles
Vikings over Rams
Titans over Patriots
Jaguars over Steelers
Saints over Vikings
Titans over Jaguars
Saints over Titans
Titans over Patriots in New England? So you're predicting a Brady and Gronk injury the week before?
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Titans seem to play their best against good teams. I don't wish or predict injuries to anyone
-OZ-
Footballguy
Or rumored infighting actually amounts to something?
Titans are one of those teams that could get crushed this week or could catch lightning in a bottle. I'm not predicting the weather but would love to see it happen.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
TEN has gone 0-4 playing in New England in the TB/BB era, losing by an average score of 37-15. It would be pretty shocking if NE lost to TEN given the roster composition and coaching staffs.
Jayded
Footballguy
AFC Wild Card Playoff: Chiefs over Titans
NFC Wild Card Playoff: Rams over Falcons
AFC Wild Card Playoff: Bills over Jaguars (Jags look horrible lately)
NFC Wild Card Playoff: Saints over Panthers
NFC Divisional Playoff: Saints over Eagles
AFC Divisional Playoff: Patriots over Bills
AFC Divisional Playoff: Steelers over Chiefs
NFC Divisional Playoff: Vikings over Rams
AFC Championship: Steelers over Patriots
NFC Championship: Vikings over Saints
I will be honestly surprised if the four championship team I have aren't the four teams, but I could see either of the teams winning the respective games.
NFC Wild Card Playoff: Rams over Falcons
AFC Wild Card Playoff: Bills over Jaguars (Jags look horrible lately)
NFC Wild Card Playoff: Saints over Panthers
NFC Divisional Playoff: Saints over Eagles
AFC Divisional Playoff: Patriots over Bills
AFC Divisional Playoff: Steelers over Chiefs
NFC Divisional Playoff: Vikings over Rams
AFC Championship: Steelers over Patriots
NFC Championship: Vikings over Saints
I will be honestly surprised if the four championship team I have aren't the four teams, but I could see either of the teams winning the respective games.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
need2know
Footballguy
At least the bills have McCoy. Titans are so mediocre. Watch them win today because it makes no sense. Only way it happens is if Andy Reid does something really dumb
