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Wouldn't count on it. Even used, I think the 3070/80 are going to be in high-demand for the next year+.jrt103 said:Absolutely, I'll probably snag one of those next year around this time for hopefully under $300
Wouldn't count on it. Even used, I think the 3070/80 are going to be in high-demand for the next year+.jrt103 said:Absolutely, I'll probably snag one of those next year around this time for hopefully under $300
Wow! Looks really nice but more than I want to spend on a monitor.Any suggestions out there on gaming monitor? Looking for a 27" with G-Sync and was considering this LG 27GL850-B but thought I'd ask around first.
Yup. I’ve been on EVGA’s waiting list forever for a new 3080. These things are nowhere to be found other than EBay.Wouldn't count on it. Even used, I think the 3070/80 are going to be in high-demand for the next year+.Absolutely, I'll probably snag one of those next year around this time for hopefully under $300
Just seems to be the way of things for decent monitors right now. Even the "budget" ones are around $300 from what I can find.Wow! Looks really nice but more than I want to spend on a monitor.
https://pcpartpicker.com/My daughter wants a PC gaming set up but neither of us know where to start? Need something budget friendly, she’s obviously a beginner.....
You’re lucky to have one of these.So I finally got my parts in after 2 months and built my new rig. Hope it lasts as long as my previous one got me (some upgrades here and there but still is a great machine after 8 years).
- AMD Ryzen 5600X
- Nvidia 3070
- Asus B550 Mobo
- 32 GB Ram
- 2 TB M2 NVME storage
Gotta be tempting to flip that 3070 on ebay, you can probably double your money at leastSo I finally got my parts in after 2 months and built my new rig. Hope it lasts as long as my previous one got me (some upgrades here and there but still is a great machine after 8 years).
- AMD Ryzen 5600X
- Nvidia 3070
- Asus B550 Mobo
- 32 GB Ram
- 2 TB M2 NVME storage
Yep but I waited 2 months for it It is really nice.Gotta be tempting to flip that 3070 on ebay, you can probably double your money at least7 hours ago, Corporation said:
So I finally got my parts in after 2 months and built my new rig. Hope it lasts as long as my previous one got me (some upgrades here and there but still is a great machine after 8 years).
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- AMD Ryzen 5600X
- Nvidia 3070
- Asus B550 Mobo
- 32 GB Ram
- 2 TB M2 NVME storage
Don't jinx me. I haven't built a rig for 8 years either. I remember back when it seemed like 5 years life was the max.So I finally got my parts in after 2 months and built my new rig. Hope it lasts as long as my previous one got me (some upgrades here and there but still is a great machine after 8 years).
- AMD Ryzen 5600X
- Nvidia 3070
- Asus B550 Mobo
- 32 GB Ram
- 2 TB M2 NVME storage
Looks like a good start. Only change I'd consider is to make sure you plan for your video card that you may want in the future, and make sure that power supply is big enough for it. I haven't been tracking things well enough lately to call it good or not, but that's the one thing. I'd hate for you to plan to buy a video card in 2 years and need a new PS, because you didn't spend $20 extra this time.I'm looking at building a budget rig to run non-AAA games. Some older stuff like the Total War series, Crusader Kings 3, Fallout 76, World of Warcraft, Civilization 6 is what I expect it to run. I priced out some parts and built around the idea that I will not be getting a GPU anytime soon.
Puts me in at around $500. I originally intended to go with an AMD processor but those things are pricey right now.
- Intel Core i5-10400 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor - $150
- ASRock H410M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard - $130
- PNY CS900 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive - $53
- Kingston ValueRAM 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 CL19 Memory x 2 - $35 each - $70
- Zalman S2 ATX Mid Tower Case - $50
- Corsair CV 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply - $45
Criticisms?
What's the alternate here? Son has expressed interest in building a machine and our HOME PC is on it's last leg so I thought I'd show him how to build a PC and make a pretty decent gaming one in the process. Cards are nowhere to be found.Yup. I’ve been on EVGA’s waiting list forever for a new 3080. These things are nowhere to be found other than EBay.Wouldn't count on it. Even used, I think the 3070/80 are going to be in high-demand for the next year+.Absolutely, I'll probably snag one of those next year around this time for hopefully under $300
Wait or try to scrounge an older card for now I guess.What's the alternate here? Son has expressed interest in building a machine and our HOME PC is on it's last leg so I thought I'd show him how to build a PC and make a pretty decent gaming one in the process. Cards are nowhere to be found.
Is it across all the different vendors? Is there a #2 to graphics cards or is it a waste of time with anyone other than nvidia? Obviously, it's been a while since I built one and am pretty shocked at how cheap things have gotten in this day and age.Wait or try to scrounge an older card for now I guess.
Pretty much all vendors. There’s some new somewhat comparable Radeon cards that might be out now, but I’m not 100% sure. I’m waiting for a 3080, bit I’m in no hurry since I just built mine last Sumner.Is it across all the different vendors? Is there a #2 to graphics cards or is it a waste of time with anyone other than nvidia? Obviously, it's been a while since I built one and am pretty shocked at how cheap things have gotten in this day and age.
And what are you upgrading from? Looks like some sites out there will build to spec, but that sort of defeats the purpose of building with my son. They have the equipment though.Pretty much all vendors. There’s some new somewhat comparable Radeon cards that might be out now, but I’m not 100% sure. I’m waiting for a 3080, bit I’m in no hurry since I just built mine last Sumner.
Higher end 2080. Just sub TI. If I had a 3080 or 3090, I’d give you my old one at this point.And what are you upgrading from? Looks like some sites out there will build to spec, but that sort of defeats the purpose of building with my son. They have the equipment though.
Seem to be some 3070s out there as "upgrades" in some of the built sites....but either way with that, AMD R7 and an Aorus board, it's getting close to $3K.Higher end 2080. Just sub TI. If I had a 3080 or 3090, I’d give you my old one at this point.
Sounds about rightSeem to be some 3070s out there as "upgrades" in some of the built sites....but either way with that, AMD R7 and an Aorus board, it's getting close to $3K.
I assume it's chip shortages? Is it the GPUs or another necessary chip on the board?I'm still rocking an 1080 TI. Would love to build a new pc but I haven't seen a newer card in stock in months.
There are several factors actually, scalpers, bitcoin miners and the worldwide chip shortage and there are bots set up to buy them up as they become available. Article here does a pretty job of explaining it. Even renting a bot doesn't necessarily guarantee you gpu either. Lastly, you can do what I did, which is that I just keep one window open on my pc and watch youtube, there are dedicated channels there for watching gpu availability, I'm not linking that, it's readily seen on youtube with a simple search.I assume it's chip shortages? Is it the GPUs or another necessary chip on the board?
I think I have an 4gb R9-380 sitting at home not being used. I'm not sure how that stacks up anymore.Seem to be some 3070s out there as "upgrades" in some of the built sites....but either way with that, AMD R7 and an Aorus board, it's getting close to $3K.
If you don’t mind an unfinished project, then sure. It would drive me crazy. You can use the on board graphics from the mobo I guess (assuming it has it).Seriously thinking of just buying what I can get my hands on now (forgoing the GPU) and going through the build process then just maintain the hunt for the card...once found, I can go back and install. Thoughts?
Well, this is primarily a "replace the dying family computer" project, but he's so into games that I thought I'd try and make a decent game PC out of it and show him how it all goes together. So for 90% of what we'd use it for, on board will be more than sufficient, but if I want to hop on COD with him (which he asks me all the time) then we'd need some juice for that.If you don’t mind an unfinished project, then sure. It would drive me crazy. You can use the on board graphics from the mobo I guess (assuming it has it).
Been looking at prebuilt...and found several for just a couple hundred bucks more with the AMD processor sets....I'd really like to build it with my son, but I may have to pass. Newegg does have a daily "raffle" that has some combo 3080 (maybe it's a 3070) / Raydon 7 5800 chips for around $900 which is pretty good. If I could land that, then I could get the rest on Amazon and be done with it.If I were desperate for a 3080, I would consider a very good pre-built system like this one on NewEgg for $2,700. If you consider the fact that 3080's are selling for $2,500+ all over the interwebz, $2,700 for an 8-core i7, 16GB of RAM, 1 TB NVMe, ASUS mobo, case, fans, 750 W PSU on top of the 3080 is a damn good deal imho.
In ordinary times, I wouldn't really consider it as I like to build my own systems but these days, I'd jump all over it if I didn't already have two decent GPU's. Just offering this up for anyone looking.
I've read that your chances of getting a card through shuffle are <1%.The Commish said:Been looking at prebuilt...and found several for just a couple hundred bucks more with the AMD processor sets....I'd really like to build it with my son, but I may have to pass. Newegg does have a daily "raffle" that has some combo 3080 (maybe it's a 3070) / Raydon 7 5800 chips for around $900 which is pretty good. If I could land that, then I could get the rest on Amazon and be done with it.
yeah....it's probably a long shot for sure....had put this together for about $2500:I've read that your chances of getting a card through shuffle are <1%.
I really enjoy building new rigs and it's a shame that you might have to just buy a prebuilt. But honestly, if you want a modern graphics card, a prebuilt is the only way to go right now.
At xmas I built myself a rockin new ITX rig:
But had to cannibalize my GTX 1070 from my old gaming rig because I just couldn't find a new video card for the new one. And things have just gone downhill from there.
- Dancase A4
- AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
- 64GB RAM (yes, overkill)
- 2TB NVME Gen4 SSD
- Corsair SFX 700W PSU (ready to rock a modern GPU)
Is this a prebuilt? If not, mind if I make some suggestions?yeah....it's probably a long shot for sure....had put this together for about $2500:
Motherboard:
MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI
Processor:
AMD RYZEN 7 5800X 8C/16T 4.7GHz
Xidax Extreme DDR4 3200MHz Memory - 8GB
Power Supply:
Seasonic FOCUS PLUS 850W GOLD
Graphics Card:
NVIDIA RTX 3080 10GB
HDD/SSD:
Seagate Barracuda 1TB - 7200RPM 3.5" HDD
CPU Cooling:
be quiet! PURE ROCK SLIM
This is prebuilt through Xidax...and I was going to keep it all the same, just add some ram to itIs this a prebuilt? If not, mind if I make some suggestions?
- Downgrade the CPU to a 5600X and the mobo to a B550 chipset, and use the savings for
16GB RAM minimum, 32GB preferred
- NVME SSD, at least 256GB for the OS, but preferably 512GB or 1TB to put some games on it
The PC will feel really slow with only 8GB of ram and a platter HDD.
If you're prebuilding, I can whip something up for you on PCPartPicker with that budget (minus the GPU, of course -- that's a wildcard).
I would argue that an SSD is the one thing you can't forego. Platter HDDs slow down your system so much.This is prebuilt through Xidax...and I was going to keep it all the same, just add some ram to it
I wasn't sure on the MB either and I'm still trying to get a handle on SSD vs traditional hard drives. The drives are probably the thing I know the least about these days. It's been a loooooooooooooooooooong time since I messed with this kind of thing.
I think that's the conclusion I've come to. I'm also trying to balance the fact that this won't be just for games. It will be for games "here and there" with my son and I. My wife does a TON if imaging for her job (professor and heart development research) so I'm wondering if a SSD/Standard combo set up might be worth the look. We'll go through a TB easily between a couple games and all her imaging.I would argue that an SSD is the one thing you can't forego. Platter HDDs slow down your system so much.
I would make sure to have an SSD even on super-budget builds.
AgreedI would argue that an SSD is the one thing you can't forego. Platter HDDs slow down your system so much.
I would make sure to have an SSD even on super-budget builds.
If you’re gaming, I recommend staying away from M2 SSDs. They get hot af no matter what add ons you try to use to cool them down. Traditional SSDs work great and you can get get good deals on 1 TB+ pretty much all the time.I would argue that an SSD is the one thing you can't forego. Platter HDDs slow down your system so much.
I would make sure to have an SSD even on super-budget builds.
Depends how much you're saving.If you’re gaming, I recommend staying away from M2 SSDs. They get hot af no matter what add ons you try to use to cool them down. Traditional SSDs work great and you can get get good deals on 1 TB+ pretty much all the time.
I hear ya. I was all about how sleek and how directly embedded they are (sans cables), but I had a nice Samsung M2 SSD fry out on me and the temps are noticeably more than for standard SSDs. Plus, with Samsung's S.M.A.R.T, the write speed on a standard SSD is twice as much. I hope these things get to point where they run a little cooler or add-on tech cooling improves (tried one of those fan assemblies and it was no bueno), but for now I am staying with the standard SSDs. I do have a few M2 SSDs (one on board and two now used as external hard drives in M2 enclosures), but I don't use the on board one for the OS. That one fried last time and I had to rebuild the whole thing. Right now, the M2 SSD (Samsung 980 Pro) is running at 42 C and it's just idling. The Samsung 860 Pro I am using for the OS is only at 34 C. Crazy difference imo.Depends how much you're saving.
M.2/NVMe is the future (can pretty much argue that it's the present, as well). Games do load a little faster with the latter, and for I/O-intensive operations (video/photo editing) you can see larger gains.
GPUs are starting to access textures directly on PCIE gen4 NVMe drives now (called "direct storage"), which removes the CPU/bus from the equation. Tech is still immature, but could bring gains in gaming, especially with 4K textures.
Finally, an NVMe drive is cableless. So you get a cleaner build. Just sits on the mobo (or behind it). No need to run SATA and power cables to it.
These drives have been out for years now, and there aren't mass reports of heat-related failures. I have one in my latest rig, and all is good. AnandTech doesn't even bother including SATA drives in their bench anymore.
So, yeah, if you're saving a ton, a SATA SSD could still be part of the equation. But I'd go for NVMe. You might be lucky to save $15 on a 2TB drive. And be giving up a lot of synthetic performance. Some real-world and future performance as well.
Lol. Bargain rate. Maybe the Next Gen hype is for real.Is it me or are GPUs coming down? I'm seeing 3070s now at only DOUBLE msrp....I might be able to get this thing built before the end of the year!!!
I don't even see them available at that price. Can't get my hands on a card. Very frustrating.Is it me or are GPUs coming down? I'm seeing 3070s now at only DOUBLE msrp....I might be able to get this thing built before the end of the year!!!