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Mark Meadows' text messages inner circle communications before and after January 6 (1 Viewer)

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https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/25/politics/read-mark-meadows-texts-sean-hannity-ivanka-trump-marjorie-taylor-greene/index.html

I post this separate from the 1/6 committee thread as it is imperative people understand what the mindset was and is regarding the 2020 election and the Republican attempts to actively cancel out the results of a free and fair election that did not go their way. I have had numerous conversations with some Maga folks and they to this day insist that the election was stolen and fraudulent. They truly believe this to be the case. The text messages in the link bear this out but also show that those who know better still insisted on coopting the constitution so their party could remain in power. This shows the depths of our collective state of affairs in this country where our divide is soo bad that we can not countenance Them being allowed to legislate because They are evil and hate this country. That attitude goes both ways but I have heard precisley these feelings on talk radio aimed in the my direction.

 
Rep. Andy Biggs to Mark Meadows

I'm sure you have heard of this proposal. It is to encourage the state legislatures to appoint a look doors in the various states where there's been shenanigans. If I understand right most of those states have Republican Legislature's. It seems to be comport with glorified Bush as well as the Constitution. And, well highly controversial, it can't be much more controversial than the lunacy that were sitting out there now. And It would be pretty difficult because he would take governors and legislators with collective will and backbone to do that. Is anybody on the team researching and considering lobbying for that?

Mark Meadows to Rep. Andy Biggs

I love it.

 
November 7, 2020

Rick Perry to Mark Meadows

We have the data driven program that can clearly show where the fraud was committed. This is the silver bullet.''Pam Biondi has seen and agrees!!'' Rick Perry

 
Rep. Scott Perry to Mark Meadows

Mark, just checking in as time continues to count down. 11 days to 1/6 and 25 days to inauguration. We gotta get going!

Rep. Scott Perry to Mark Meadows

Mark, you should call Jeff. I just got off the phone with him and he explained to me why the principal deputy won't work especially with the FBI. They will view it as as not having the authority to enforce what needs to be done.

Mark Meadows to Rep. Scott Perry

I got it. I think I understand. Let me work on the deputy position

 
Jason Miller to Mark Meadows

Assuming you knew this was coming down the pike, but the MSM is going to use this to drive a massive wedge between POTUS 'and everybody else in the party.' He's absolutely going to blow his stack on this if he isn't already aware. Oh boy I don't understand what the VP was thinking here: Pence urges court to throw out lawsuit aiming to help him overturn 2020 election results Politico Kyle Cheney & Josh Gerstein December 31, 2020 ' 6:06 PM

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/31/pence-overturn-election-results-lawsuit-453207

 
January 5, 2021

Rep. Jim Jordan to Mark Meadows

On January 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all -- in accordance with guidance from founding father Alexander Hamilton and judicial precedence. 'No legislative act,' wrote Alexander Hamilton in Federalist No. 78, 'contrary to the Constitution, can be valid.' 'The court in Hubbard v. Lowe reinforced this truth: ''That an unconstitutional statute is not a law at all is a proposition no longer open to discussion.' '226 F. 135, 137 (SDNY 1915), appeal dismissed, 242 U.S. 654 (1916). ' Following this rationale, an unconstitutionally appointed elector, like an unconstitutionally enacted statute, is no elector at all.

 
Jan 6:

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene to Mark Meadows

Mark I was just told there is an active shooter on the first floor of the Capitol Please tell the President to calm people This isn't the way to solve anything

Mick Mulvaney to Mark Meadows

Mark: he needs to stop this, now. Can I do anything to help?

Rep. Barry Loudermilk to Mark Meadows

It's really bad up here on the hill.

Rep. Barry Loudermilk to Mark Meadows

They have breached the Capitol.

Mark Meadows to Rep. Barry Loudermilk

POTUS is engaging

Rep. Barry Loudermilk to Mark Meadows

Thanks. This doesn't help our cause.

Rep. William Timmons to Mark Meadows

The president needs to stop this ASAP

Mark Meadows to Rep. William Timmons

We are doing it

Donald Trump Jr. to Mark Meadows

He's got to condem this ####. Asap. The captiol police tweet is not enough.

Donald Trump Jr. to Mark Meadows

This his one you go to the mattresses on. They will try to #### his entire legacy on this if it gets worse.

Reince Priebus to Mark Meadows

TELL THEM TO GO HOME !!!

Jason Miller to Mark Meadows and Dan Scavino

Call me crazy, but ideas for two tweets from POTUS: 1) Bad apples, likely ANTIFA or other crazed leftists, infiltrated today's peaceful protest over the fraudulent vote count. Violence is never acceptable! MAGA supporters embrace our police and the rule of law and should leave the Capitol now! 2) The fake news media who encouraged this summer's violent and radical riots are now trying to blame peaceful and innocent MAGA supporters for violent actions. This isn't who we are! Our people should head home and let the criminals suffer the consequences!

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene to Mark Meadows

Mark we don't think these attackers are our people. We think they are Antifa. Dressed like Trump supporters.

Rep. Louie Gohmert to Mark Meadows

Cap Police told me last night they'd been warned that today there'd be a lot of Antifa dressed in red Trump shirts & hats & would likely get violent. Good that Trump denounces violence but could add & well demand justice for those who became violent & well get to the bottom of what group they're with.

 
Jan 6:

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene to Mark Meadows

Mark I was just told there is an active shooter on the first floor of the Capitol Please tell the President to calm people This isn't the way to solve anything
MTG just moved up a notch in my books.  She's now at notch 1.

 
It's crazy to me that you can turn on the news or visit a newspaper's front page site and a bunch of stuff that isn't this, the Ukraine war or COVID.

Three of the biggest stories since WWII happening all at once and our politicians are picking fights with Disney princesses and bragging about their ability to not wear a surgical mask.

 
It's crazy to me that you can turn on the news or visit a newspaper's front page site and a bunch of stuff that isn't this, the Ukraine war or COVID.

Three of the biggest stories since WWII happening all at once and our politicians are picking fights with Disney princesses and bragging about their ability to not wear a surgical mask.
It will be interesting to see how Fox covers this (if at all).  They have been calling out the other channels on lack of coverage, now this comes along.

 
MSNBC : Mark Meadows texts

CNN: Mark Meadows text

Fox: Mickey Mouse just taught your kid what f*sting is...
Wow..thats pretty gross dude.  Shame on you.

really difficult to have a serious conversation with you when this is the kind of stuff you feel like posting

 
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Wow..thats pretty gross dude.  Shame on you.

really difficult to have a serious conversation with you when this is the kind of stuff you feel like posting
Sometimes situations need shock /humor to appreciate how messed up things are.  Apologies if that offended you --And never got the impression you wanted any serious conversations. 

 
Sometimes situations need shock /humor to appreciate how messed up things are.  Apologies if that offended you --And never got the impression you wanted any serious conversations. 
Apology accepted.   Try to not be so gross going forward?   Thanks!

 
This Election Day exchange between the White House Chief of Staff and Sean Hannity is bananas in its own right, totally unrelated to January 6. It would have been more than enough to earn both of them lifetime bans from politics and political media up until a few years ago. 

Mark Meadows to Sean Hannity

Stress every vote matters. Get out and vote

Mark Meadows to Sean Hannity

On radio

Sean Hannity to Mark Meadows

Yes sir

Sean Hannity to Mark Meadows

On it. Any place in particular we need a push



 
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This exchange between the White House Chief of Staff and Sean Hannity is bananas in its own right, totally unrelated to January 6. It would have been more than enough to earn both of them lifetime bans from politics and political media up until a few years ago. 
Just more proof of the evil left controlling the media again.  Oh, wait, ummm….

I’ll eagerly await the conservatives here who’ve railed against the left and the media countless time coming out hard against this too.  Just won’t hold my breath doing it.  

 
Just more proof of the evil left controlling the media again.  Oh, wait, ummm….

I’ll eagerly await the conservatives here who’ve railed against the left and the media countless time coming out hard against this too.  Just won’t hold my breath doing it.  
Woah woah there big fella.   I think ALL Media manipulation is bad and Hannity has shown, clearly, that he is not impartial and that's clear as day.

Now, many here would argue that he is just an opinion person..Like Lemon, Cuomo, etc...and we have seen how the leftist talking head media has tried to inflouence outcomes.

As long as we agree this is bad...On both sides, and this revelation about Hannity does in no way exonerate the left from their crimes either.  They are all scumbags and just another reason why NONE of them should be watched, or read, or listened to...if the goal is unbaised media coverage.

 
Woah woah there big fella.   I think ALL Media manipulation is bad and Hannity has shown, clearly, that he is not impartial and that's clear as day.

Now, many here would argue that he is just an opinion person..Like Lemon, Cuomo, etc...and we have seen how the leftist talking head media has tried to inflouence outcomes.

As long as we agree this is bad...On both sides, and this revelation about Hannity does in no way exonerate the left from their crimes either.  They are all scumbags and just another reason why NONE of them should be watched, or read, or listened to...if the goal is unbaised media coverage.
Doesn't seem like we agree on a whole lot @supermike80, but I certainly agree with you on this front. There are a lot of opinion hosts on tv today, on both sides. I am as liberal as they come, but I do find myself watching things like Tucker, Hannity, Maddow, Trump rallies... I am of the opinion that it's not a good idea to solely watch only the things you agree with. I find it almost necessary to watch what the other side says as well so you can be informed of what they're telling their audiences. In doing so, I regularly see the stark contrast between what one cable network news channel will show, compared to the others. It's apparent that it's all targeted towards the viewers who fall into one media silo vs. the other, but the state of our media is horrible today. Hannity is repugnant. He uses simple language, exhausting repetition, and feigned outrage to gin up his geriatric viewers. Tucker seems to just want to watch it all burn down and rebuild in his ideal authoritarian views.

BUT, when it comes to things like the Mark Meadows texts, that's news. Sure, there will be a lot of opinion based on those facts, but it doesn't negate the fact that these are real, they happened, and they aren't good. I don't know how you spin these as anything other than an attempted internal coup designed to stop the transition of power from one president (who lost), to another who was fairly elected (despite the ongoing lies about election fraud). Mark Meadows was neck deep in all of this and, if there is such a thing as justice, he will be held accountable (along with everyone else who was involved). Do I think that will happen, no, not really. But I can certainly hope it happens. 

 
Yes, this happened. Many, if not most, knew it was happening and called it out in advance, and at the time, and since afterwards. It was probably the single most un-democratic set of events that has ever taken place in our country since WWII, if not ever. When people don't accept these facts, or when people still claim the election was "stolen", that's where we're in big trouble as a democracy IMO. Not good. 

 
Yes, this happened. Many, if not most, knew it was happening and called it out in advance, and at the time, and since afterwards. It was probably the single most un-democratic set of events that has ever taken place in our country since WWII, if not ever. When people don't accept these facts, or when people still claim the election was "stolen", that's where we're in big trouble as a democracy IMO. Not good. 
Agreed 100%. We all "knew" this was happening in real-time, but these people continue to lie about their role in the events leading up to, and after, January 6. We are just now getting the receipts, and these same people (Meadows, MTG, etc...) are now in the position of lying about their lies, getting confronted with their lies with actual, real evidence, then acting as if what they did was no big deal. They feel above the law, and assume there will be no consequences. Until there are, they will continue to try and undermine our democracy at every opportunity. I can only imagine what our history books will say about this period of time in the next few decades.

 
Woah woah there big fella.   I think ALL Media manipulation is bad and Hannity has shown, clearly, that he is not impartial and that's clear as day.

Now, many here would argue that he is just an opinion person..Like Lemon, Cuomo, etc...and we have seen how the leftist talking head media has tried to inflouence outcomes.

As long as we agree this is bad...On both sides, and this revelation about Hannity does in no way exonerate the left from their crimes either.  They are all scumbags and just another reason why NONE of them should be watched, or read, or listened to...if the goal is unbaised media coverage.
That’s exactly my point (as I’ve stated in this topic before), this is not just a left issue, it’s a boff sides one. I’m certainly not excusing the left, quite the opposite.  My track record of disgust with both sides of the isle is well documented here. Personally I see very little difference between team red or blue in most regards.

But I am exonerating and calling the conservatives here who constantly fail to acknowledge that. I’d hope they’d acknowledge how unacceptable this is and how their sides hands are just as dirty.  Again I won’t hold my breath.  

 
That’s exactly my point (as I’ve stated in this topic before), this is not just a left issue, it’s a boff sides one. I’m certainly not excusing the left, quite the opposite.  My track record of disgust with both sides of the isle is well documented here. Personally I see very little difference between team red or blue in most regards.

But I am exonerating and calling the conservatives here who constantly fail to acknowledge that. I’d hope they’d acknowledge how unacceptable this is and how their sides hands are just as dirty.  Again I won’t hold my breath.  
I see a big difference.  Lemon and Maddow are opinion commentators that are very left in their opinions.  Hannity is an opinion commentator that is very right in his opinion, but also has the ear of the president and his top advisors.  He is actually trying to advise.  

 
I see a big difference.  Lemon and Maddow are opinion commentators that are very left in their opinions.  Hannity is an opinion commentator that is very right in his opinion, but also has the ear of the president and his top advisors.  He is actually trying to advise.  
Trump would bet a horse after asking Mr Ed.  

 
I see a big difference.  Lemon and Maddow are opinion commentators that are very left in their opinions.  Hannity is an opinion commentator that is very right in his opinion, but also has the ear of the president and his top advisors.  He is actually trying to advise.  
Interestingly, a lot of people who cry that the libs are in bed with the "Lamestream Media" and "Big Tech" never seemed to complain about the president having routine calls with a Fox News host.

 
While I have repeatedly complained about Trump, Guliani and Roger Stone in the current context, the excerpt from the above summary that I find terrifying is here:

Jason Miller to Mark Meadows and Dan Scavino

Call me crazy, but ideas for two tweets from POTUS: 1) Bad apples, likely ANTIFA or other crazed leftists, infiltrated today's peaceful protest over the fraudulent vote count. Violence is never acceptable! MAGA supporters embrace our police and the rule of law and should leave the Capitol now! 2) The fake news media who encouraged this summer's violent and radical riots are now trying to blame peaceful and innocent MAGA supporters for violent actions. This isn't who we are! Our people should head home and let the criminals suffer the consequences!

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene to Mark Meadows

Mark we don't think these attackers are our people. We think they are Antifa. Dressed like Trump supporters.

Rep. Louie Gohmert to Mark Meadows

Cap Police told me last night they'd been warned that today there'd be a lot of Antifa dressed in red Trump shirts & hats & would likely get violent. Good that Trump denounces violence but could add & well demand justice for those who became violent & well get to the bottom of what group they're with. 

Lest anyone think that all that followed Hitler were "just following orders"; there is evil here up and down the food chain.

 
While I have repeatedly complained about Trump, Guliani and Roger Stone in the current context, the excerpt from the above summary that I find terrifying is here:

Jason Miller to Mark Meadows and Dan Scavino

Call me crazy, but ideas for two tweets from POTUS: 1) Bad apples, likely ANTIFA or other crazed leftists, infiltrated today's peaceful protest over the fraudulent vote count. Violence is never acceptable! MAGA supporters embrace our police and the rule of law and should leave the Capitol now! 2) The fake news media who encouraged this summer's violent and radical riots are now trying to blame peaceful and innocent MAGA supporters for violent actions. This isn't who we are! Our people should head home and let the criminals suffer the consequences!

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene to Mark Meadows

Mark we don't think these attackers are our people. We think they are Antifa. Dressed like Trump supporters.

Rep. Louie Gohmert to Mark Meadows

Cap Police told me last night they'd been warned that today there'd be a lot of Antifa dressed in red Trump shirts & hats & would likely get violent. Good that Trump denounces violence but could add & well demand justice for those who became violent & well get to the bottom of what group they're with. 

Lest anyone think that all that followed Hitler were "just following orders"; there is evil here up and down the food chain.
How many of us heard family members and friends cite this exact thesis within days?

 
How many of us heard family members and friends cite this exact thesis within days?
I'm not sure.  But the antifa explanation and false media reporting trial balloons have been disproven so you have to ask if Jason Miller, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Louie Gohmert raised these points based on belief or as conscious strategy to perpetuate lies and deflection.  It's one thing if Uncle Rico spews Oathkeeper rhetoric at a family barbeque but when the elected official's political apparatus is demonstrated to be managing affairs in this way, you have to make a personal decision if this is how we think government should operate in the United States of America.

 
I'm not sure.  But the antifa explanation and false media reporting trial balloons have been disproven so you have to ask if Jason Miller, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Louie Gohmert raised these points based on belief or as conscious strategy to perpetuate lies and deflection.  It's one thing if Uncle Rico spews Oathkeeper rhetoric at a family barbeque but when the elected official's political apparatus is demonstrated to be managing affairs in this way, you have to make a personal decision if this is how we think government should operate in the United States of America.
I have no doubt Marjorie Taylor-Greene and Louie Gohmert are the Uncle Ricos of their families so I can believe their belief.

 
I'm not sure.  But the antifa explanation and false media reporting trial balloons have been disproven so you have to ask if Jason Miller, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Louie Gohmert raised these points based on belief or as conscious strategy to perpetuate lies and deflection.  It's one thing if Uncle Rico spews Oathkeeper rhetoric at a family barbeque but when the elected official's political apparatus is demonstrated to be managing affairs in this way, you have to make a personal decision if this is how we think government should operate in the United States of America.
All I know is that they began blaming BLM and Antifa as soon as they realized things were out of control, and that their plans to delay the vote count didn't work. It's not surprising that they would blame people that don't appear to be involved in any way as they are a party of projection. It's usually only a matter of time until most things they blame others for end up being the very things they themselves are involved in. It's always amusing to see what the right is screaming about, wait a bit, then watch the news reports that some MAGA goober is guilty of doing what they just warned everyone about. Just look at the leadup to the election, when Trump wailed about voter fraud. He knew before the votes were even fully counted that there were discussions about undermining the election. Do I have proof? No. But I have ears and eyes, and a fully functional brain.

 
That’s exactly my point (as I’ve stated in this topic before), this is not just a left issue, it’s a boff sides one. I’m certainly not excusing the left, quite the opposite.  My track record of disgust with both sides of the isle is well documented here. Personally I see very little difference between team red or blue in most regards.

But I am exonerating and calling the conservatives here who constantly fail to acknowledge that. I’d hope they’d acknowledge how unacceptable this is and how their sides hands are just as dirty.  Again I won’t hold my breath.  
MSNBC:  Some opinion shows hosted by liberals, other opinion shows hosted by conservatives.

FoxNews:  Entire network is a virtual arm of the Republican Party, so much so that prominent hosts/guests either go to work directly in the White House or they communicate regularly White House as de facto advisors.  
 

“Both sides”

 
I'm not sure.  But the antifa explanation and false media reporting trial balloons have been disproven so you have to ask if Jason Miller, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Louie Gohmert raised these points based on belief or as conscious strategy to perpetuate lies and deflection.  It's one thing if Uncle Rico spews Oathkeeper rhetoric at a family barbeque but when the elected official's political apparatus is demonstrated to be managing affairs in this way, you have to make a personal decision if this is how we think government should operate in the United States of America.
While I am missing steps between Jason Miller's text and Uncle Ron spewing the nonsense at the family BBQ, I feel pretty confident in guessing that one led directly to the other and, based on the way Miller phrased it, was the exact intent.

 
I think my favorite thing from this info drop is this... OOPS.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/25/politics/rick-perry-mark-meadows-text/index.html

"Previously disclosed text messages showed that former Trump administration Energy Secretary Rick Perry and Trump's son, Donald Trump Jr., each texted Meadows on November 4 and 5 with ideas for overturning the election.

"On November 7, hours before the election was called, Perry texted Meadows again: 'We have the data driven program that can clearly show where the fraud was committed. This is the silver bullet.'

"While Perry has previously denied CNN reporting about his text messages to Meadows, CNN has confirmed it's his cell phone and he signed this text, 'Rick Perry,' including his number."

So, in order to now believe Rick Perry's initial denials, you have to believe:

1. Someone got Perry's phone without him knowing about it.

2. That same person texted Meadows repeatedly about ways to possibly overturn the election.

3. That person, ingeniously, signed the texts "Rick Perry."

So, either you believe that or you believe that the texts from Rick Perry's phone and signed "Rick Perry" were, in fact, from Rick Perry.

 
I think my favorite thing from this info drop is this... OOPS.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/25/politics/rick-perry-mark-meadows-text/index.html

"Previously disclosed text messages showed that former Trump administration Energy Secretary Rick Perry and Trump's son, Donald Trump Jr., each texted Meadows on November 4 and 5 with ideas for overturning the election.

"On November 7, hours before the election was called, Perry texted Meadows again: 'We have the data driven program that can clearly show where the fraud was committed. This is the silver bullet.'

"While Perry has previously denied CNN reporting about his text messages to Meadows, CNN has confirmed it's his cell phone and he signed this text, 'Rick Perry,' including his number."

So, in order to now believe Rick Perry's initial denials, you have to believe:

1. Someone got Perry's phone without him knowing about it.

2. That same person texted Meadows repeatedly about ways to possibly overturn the election.

3. That person, ingeniously, signed the texts "Rick Perry."

So, either you believe that or you believe that the texts from Rick Perry's phone and signed "Rick Perry" were, in fact, from Rick Perry.
I'm going to play devil's advocate here: Is there anything inherently wrong with Perry's texts if he legitimately thinks there was provable fraud.  

I obviously see an issue if these people are knowingly throwing baseless haymakers just to gum up the transition of power. But what if they genuinely think the election was fraudulent and are trying to get the evidence to people that may be able to do something with it?

 
MSNBC:  Some opinion shows hosted by liberals, other opinion shows hosted by conservatives.

FoxNews:  Entire network is a virtual arm of the Republican Party, so much so that prominent hosts/guests either go to work directly in the White House or they communicate regularly White House as de facto advisors.  
 

“Both sides”
Yes you’re team blue. I think at this point we are all very aware of this. Red bad, blue good.  Got it.  Thanks.  

 
I'm going to play devil's advocate here: Is there anything inherently wrong with Perry's texts if he legitimately thinks there was provable fraud.  

I obviously see an issue if these people are knowingly throwing baseless haymakers just to gum up the transition of power. But what if they genuinely think the election was fraudulent and are trying to get the evidence to people that may be able to do something with it?
I am not diminishing Rick Perry's lack of intelligence, and it's totally believable that he would buy into all of the election hoopla. I just find it hilarious that he claims he never participated in any of this, only to find a text message putting him square in the middle. Not only that, but the goober signs his name and includes his phone number. I mean, I get that he probably thought the text would never see the light of day, but c'mon... he knew there were receipts. They just can't help themselves when it comes to the lies and coverup.

 
I am not diminishing Rick Perry's lack of intelligence, and it's totally believable that he would buy into all of the election hoopla. I just find it hilarious that he claims he never participated in any of this, only to find a text message putting him square in the middle. Not only that, but the goober signs his name and includes his phone number. I mean, I get that he probably thought the text would never see the light of day, but c'mon... he knew there were receipts. They just can't help themselves when it comes to the lies and coverup.


:heart:  You had me at

I am not diminishing Rick Perry's lack of intelligence...

 
I think my favorite thing from this info drop is this... OOPS.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/25/politics/rick-perry-mark-meadows-text/index.html

"Previously disclosed text messages showed that former Trump administration Energy Secretary Rick Perry and Trump's son, Donald Trump Jr., each texted Meadows on November 4 and 5 with ideas for overturning the election.

"On November 7, hours before the election was called, Perry texted Meadows again: 'We have the data driven program that can clearly show where the fraud was committed. This is the silver bullet.'

"While Perry has previously denied CNN reporting about his text messages to Meadows, CNN has confirmed it's his cell phone and he signed this text, 'Rick Perry,' including his number."

So, in order to now believe Rick Perry's initial denials, you have to believe:

1. Someone got Perry's phone without him knowing about it.

2. That same person texted Meadows repeatedly about ways to possibly overturn the election.

3. That person, ingeniously, signed the texts "Rick Perry."

So, either you believe that or you believe that the texts from Rick Perry's phone and signed "Rick Perry" were, in fact, from Rick Perry.
Rick Perry.  Isn’t he that guy from Dancing with Stars?  Enough said.  

 
I'm going to hijack this thread for a second to tell a funny story about Rick Perry. My oldest brother, who's way more conservative than I am, used to go to those RedState.org conferences with his wife. Years ago he went to one in New Orleans and was telling me afterward that they met Perry, and he found the guv to be  little too flirty with my sister-in-law. A few days after he tells me this story, I see an article about how Perry was giving a speech in New Orleans and made a gaffe by saying he was in Florida. I texted it to my brother and he wrote back, "We were talking to him five minutes before he gave that speech and [Sister-in-Law] mentioned that we had once met him at a fundraiser in Florida."

So I can't prove that Perry made that gaffe because he was dreaming of my SIL, but I'm going to nonetheless assume that's exactly what happened.

 

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