Marques Colston (1 Viewer)

[mjohnell]

I started a thread a couple days ago asking people to list their top 12 WR's. A couple people had Colston outside the top 12, one as low as 15, and few others with Colston outside the top 10. My question is directed to those people or anyone with the same inclination, not as a call out, but as a different perspective.

Why is Marques Colston not a top 10 WR? What's not to like?

 

[Moldy Potato]

I started a thread a couple days ago asking people to list their top 12 WR's. A couple people had Colston outside the top 12, one as low as 15, and few others with Colston outside the top 10. My question is directed to those people or anyone with the same inclination, not as a call out, but as a different perspective.Why is Marques Colston not a top 10 WR? What's not to like?

In his first two years, Colston has caught more passes than ANY wide receiver in his first two years in NFL HISTORY. Anyone who knows anything about football should have him ranked in their top ten.

 

[Couch Potato]

I started a thread a couple days ago asking people to list their top 12 WR's. A couple people had Colston outside the top 12, one as low as 15, and few others with Colston outside the top 10. My question is directed to those people or anyone with the same inclination, not as a call out, but as a different perspective.Why is Marques Colston not a top 10 WR? What's not to like?

In his first two years, Colston has caught more passes than ANY wide receiver in his first two years in NFL HISTORY. Anyone who knows anything about football should have him ranked in their top ten.

But he was a 7th round pick. NFL teams don't make mistakes in judgment. He can't possibly ever be any good. And that's why, again this year, we should only pay attention to the 1st round picks. Plus those guys never bust either.EDIT to add -- hey, that might be a first, two different Potatoes posting back-to-back. I just noticed.

 

[footloose]

He's in my top 5. He finished 8th in my ppr league last year and several players ahead of him play in cold weather stadiums. The points are close enough that if I take him ahead of those few I should still make the playoffs and once weeks 14-16 begin I find him more valuable than someone in Ceveland or Cincy or even NE.

 

[Brewzers]

I started a thread a couple days ago asking people to list their top 12 WR's. A couple people had Colston outside the top 12, one as low as 15, and few others with Colston outside the top 10. My question is directed to those people or anyone with the same inclination, not as a call out, but as a different perspective.Why is Marques Colston not a top 10 WR? What's not to like?

He is top 10. Most people just have not come to grips with it yet because he is young and 7th round pick (not proven). With Dree Brees as his QB for the forseeable future, there is no reason not to expect top 10 production every year.

 

[Interseptopus]

Top 5 for me. Major steal for most fantasy leagues this year. It's clear most people view him as a 15ish WR... he is the only WR in NO and will continue to make noise quietly. Chad Johnson did the same his first couple years... was quiet for the most part, at least in my league. Now he's big news, given the respect he's earned. After this year I think people don't forget the name Colston...

 

[stbugs]

I love Colston and there aren't many WRs I would take over him. He is just getting started and finished off last year well enough to make you think of Moss/Boldin career starts instead of Michael Clayton type career starts.

He finished 17th in my PPR league in 2006 even though he basically played 12 games (0 catches week 11 when he got hurt in Q1 and 0 catched in week 17 when NO had no way to improve/worsen their playoff spot and then).

He was the #1 WR after week 10 in 2006 as a rookie. Finishing 17th when only having 12 real games and having a Meh last 3 after missing 3 weeks with injury was pretty impressive.

He finished 11th in 2007, which also wasn't bad considering the atrocious start Brees and NO had on offense. In his first 6 games he had more than 10 points once. In his last 11 games, he had less than 20 points only twice. So in Weeks 1-6, he was basically a 10 or less (10.3 average) and in Weeks 7-16 he was basically a 20 or more (19.4 average). Only Moss, Welker, Wayne and TO averaged more than 19.4 ppg for the season and those guys had career seasons. Out of the 4 people who averaged better than Colston's last 11 games, 1 set the NFL TD record, 1 had the second most receptions in NFL history, 1 had 11 TDs and only 12 receptions less than what was the second most receptions in NFL history before 2007, and 1 had 16 TDs which is a lot since only 4 times in NFL history have WRs had 18 or more in a season. 2007 was an abberration at the top of the WRs and Colston in his last 11 games was better than everyone except a handful of guys with some of the best ever WR seasons.

 

[Phurfur]

I have him ranked 6th.

I have owned him for the last two years. What may be scaring people off is his inconsistency last year. He had 7 games with 6 or fewer points, most of them were early in the season but in week 16 he only scored 1 point (4 in PPR). I agree with a previous poster that he may be a value pick this year; I think his ADP will be between 10-15.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Colston was such a bargin last off-season... wish I got in on it.

 

[renesauz]

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

 

[Interseptopus]

I think his ADP will be between 10-15.

ADP among WRs yes... that makes him a value pick. You have him ranked 6th... if you could get the 6th best WR on your list when about 10 WRs have gone before him... that's value.Think about it, let's say you have the 5th pick out of 10 in your draft... Let's say you go RB round 1, WR round 2, and then WR round 3... you could potentialy get Colston round 3, that's huge.

 

[sfl49er]

I started a thread a couple days ago asking people to list their top 12 WR's. A couple people had Colston outside the top 12, one as low as 15, and few others with Colston outside the top 10. My question is directed to those people or anyone with the same inclination, not as a call out, but as a different perspective.Why is Marques Colston not a top 10 WR? What's not to like?

In his first two years, Colston has caught more passes than ANY wide receiver in his first two years in NFL HISTORY. Anyone who knows anything about football should have him ranked in their top ten.

But he was a 7th round pick. NFL teams don't make mistakes in judgment. He can't possibly ever be any good. And that's why, again this year, we should only pay attention to the 1st round picks. Plus those guys never bust either.EDIT to add -- hey, that might be a first, two different Potatoes posting back-to-back. I just noticed.

You MUST be kidding thinking he cant "possibly ever be any good.'" There must be sarcasm there, because teams make mistakes in judgement-alllll the time when it comes to the draft. Look at his game film. Put him with Romo and he gets as many catches, TDs, Pro Bowl votes AND media coverage as TO!

 

[Interseptopus]

I started a thread a couple days ago asking people to list their top 12 WR's. A couple people had Colston outside the top 12, one as low as 15, and few others with Colston outside the top 10. My question is directed to those people or anyone with the same inclination, not as a call out, but as a different perspective.Why is Marques Colston not a top 10 WR? What's not to like?

In his first two years, Colston has caught more passes than ANY wide receiver in his first two years in NFL HISTORY. Anyone who knows anything about football should have him ranked in their top ten.

But he was a 7th round pick. NFL teams don't make mistakes in judgment. He can't possibly ever be any good. And that's why, again this year, we should only pay attention to the 1st round picks. Plus those guys never bust either.EDIT to add -- hey, that might be a first, two different Potatoes posting back-to-back. I just noticed.

You MUST be kidding thinking he cant "possibly ever be any good.'" There must be sarcasm there, because teams make mistakes in judgement-alllll the time when it comes to the draft. Look at his game film. Put him with Romo and he gets as many catches, TDs, Pro Bowl votes AND media coverage as TO!

He laid the sarcasm on real thick the entire post... surprised you didn't catch it

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I started a thread a couple days ago asking people to list their top 12 WR's. A couple people had Colston outside the top 12, one as low as 15, and few others with Colston outside the top 10. My question is directed to those people or anyone with the same inclination, not as a call out, but as a different perspective.

Why is Marques Colston not a top 10 WR? What's not to like?

In his first two years, Colston has caught more passes than ANY wide receiver in his first two years in NFL HISTORY. Anyone who knows anything about football should have him ranked in their top ten.

But he was a 7th round pick. NFL teams don't make mistakes in judgment. He can't possibly ever be any good. And that's why, again this year, we should only pay attention to the 1st round picks. Plus those guys never bust either.

EDIT to add -- hey, that might be a first, two different Potatoes posting back-to-back. I just noticed.

all eyes are on you

 

[eric rymer]

I started a thread a couple days ago asking people to list their top 12 WR's. A couple people had Colston outside the top 12, one as low as 15, and few others with Colston outside the top 10. My question is directed to those people or anyone with the same inclination, not as a call out, but as a different perspective.Why is Marques Colston not a top 10 WR? What's not to like?

In his first two years, Colston has caught more passes than ANY wide receiver in his first two years in NFL HISTORY. Anyone who knows anything about football should have him ranked in their top ten.

But he was a 7th round pick. NFL teams don't make mistakes in judgment. He can't possibly ever be any good. And that's why, again this year, we should only pay attention to the 1st round picks. Plus those guys never bust either.EDIT to add -- hey, that might be a first, two different Potatoes posting back-to-back. I just noticed.

You MUST be kidding thinking he cant "possibly ever be any good.'" There must be sarcasm there, because teams make mistakes in judgement-alllll the time when it comes to the draft. Look at his game film. Put him with Romo and he gets as many catches, TDs, Pro Bowl votes AND media coverage as TO!

He laid the sarcasm on real thick the entire post... surprised you didn't catch it

I rather enjoyed all the sarcasm too. That's good stuff.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

I really like Colston.

My only worry with him is that almost all of his patterns are over the middle and he takes a lot of hits and misses time fairly often (though not for extended lengths).

 

[az_prof]

I really like Colston.

My only worry with him is that almost all of his patterns are over the middle and he takes a lot of hits and misses time fairly often (though not for extended lengths).

I consider him top ten but I am watching his injury situation also. There has been no attention on here to the fact that he had off season surgery and in fact he struggled at times last year while having to play with an injury. Most of the time arthocopic surgery goes well, but it is surgery and there is the possiblity of complications and you never want a WR to be having procedures done on their knee as it may imply more serious problems down the road.Saints | Colston should be ready for April training

Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:37:31 -0700

The NFL Network reports New Orleans Saints WR Marques Colston (knee) underwent arthroscopic knee surgery but should be ready for the team's April training sessions.

http://www.kffl.com/player/13701/NFL

 

[LBH]

I really like Colston.

My only worry with him is that almost all of his patterns are over the middle and he takes a lot of hits and misses time fairly often (though not for extended lengths).

I consider him top ten but I am watching his injury situation also. There has been no attention on here to the fact that he had off season surgery and in fact he struggled at times last year while having to play with an injury. Most of the time arthocopic surgery goes well, but it is surgery and there is the possiblity of complications and you never want a WR to be having procedures done on their knee as it may imply more serious problems down the road.Saints | Colston should be ready for April training

Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:37:31 -0700

The NFL Network reports New Orleans Saints WR Marques Colston (knee) underwent arthroscopic knee surgery but should be ready for the team's April training sessions.

http://www.kffl.com/player/13701/NFL

It was a knee scope from what ive read. Dont think its a big deal at all.

 

[ericttspikes]

Can't argue with his grabs, and for reception leagues he is probably gold. But for distance scoring leagues he is average. He seems to get most of his TDs from close in and doesn't seem to do that great after the catch.

 

[Chase Stuart]

One thing worth noting is that Brees completed 440 passes last season, by far the most in league history. He completed "only" 356 passes in 2006. If Colston is on the other end of between 20 and 25% of Brees' completions again this season, he might end up with closer to 80 receptions than the 98 he had in 2007.

 

[Phlash]

One thing worth noting is that Brees completed 440 passes last season, by far the most in league history. He completed "only" 356 passes in 2006. If Colston is on the other end of between 20 and 25% of Brees' completions again this season, he might end up with closer to 80 receptions than the 98 he had in 2007.

And lets be honest, last year he and Reggie are the only guys who were really good receiving options on that team last year. He IS getting a bulk of the throws, so it all rests on Brees to get him his normal volume of looks that he'll need to continue putting up the great numbers he is.

 

[thehornet]

colston is a stud. was there any question about it? he's the number one pass option on an extremely pass oriented team that has a pro bowl quarterback.

 

[meanjoegreen]

I think Colston is a top 10 WR.

 

[mjohnell]

Well, anyone who doesn't think Colston is top 10 care to respond? I just want to hear another perspective.

 

[Ozymandias]

I have him ranked 6th.I have owned him for the last two years. What may be scaring people off is his inconsistency last year. He had 7 games with 6 or fewer points, most of them were early in the season but in week 16 he only scored 1 point (4 in PPR). I agree with a previous poster that he may be a value pick this year; I think his ADP will be between 10-15.

He underperformed in the early season last year, and it killed me. I was losing games by 2 or 3 points, and by the time he came around, I was in deep doodoo. Still, he will be one of my 5 keepers.

 

[travdogg]

One possible reason he wouldn't be in a top-10 is because he doesn't have much upside from where he is already at. It's not like Brees is gonna throw more. 1200-11 might be where Colston tops out. I think that's top-10 material but I can see if some people downgrade him thinking he doesn't have top-5 upside

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Looking for criticism of Colston?

From Pro Football Weeklys' Audibles. The following quotes are from NFL scouts, coaches and front-office personnel, speaking on condition of anonymity. This one ran December 18th, 2007.

“(Saints WR) Marques Colston is a big stiff. He cannot run.”

Don't kill the messenger!

 

[sheerterror]

One possible reason he wouldn't be in a top-10 is because he doesn't have much upside from where he is already at. It's not like Brees is gonna throw more. 1200-11 might be where Colston tops out. I think that's top-10 material but I can see if some people downgrade him thinking he doesn't have top-5 upside

I know I've discussed this with you in the past so not trying to beat a dead horse here - but how do you figure that he doesn't have much upside? He has been in the league for 2 seasons. And in those 2 seasons - he has caught more balls than any other WR in NFL history has in their first 2 seasons. What about his play has led you to believe that he cannot or will not continue to improve both his level of play and his production?

 

[Jedimaster21]

I like Colston a lot, but I'm not ready to put him in the Fitz/Braylon tier yet. The lack of pedigree still scares me a little, and with Meachem and Bush there to steal catches, I just don't know if he will be long term #1 fantasy WR. He also lacks the top end speed needed to turn 8-9 TDs into 13-14. I tend to be down on him compared to many, but wanted to give a different perspective.

 

[Sweet Love]

I like Colston a lot, but I'm not ready to put him in the Fitz/Braylon tier yet. The lack of pedigree still scares me a little, and with Meachem and Bush there to steal catches, I just don't know if he will be long term #1 fantasy WR. He also lacks the top end speed needed to turn 8-9 TDs into 13-14. I tend to be down on him compared to many, but wanted to give a different perspective.

Here are the people I would probably draft before him:MossOwensWayneFitzEdwardsCJHoushThat puts him at WR8, and I guess he would lead my next tier of Welker, Holt, Roy Williams and Boldin. But the smallest thing over the next month or even training camp could drop him to that WR10 spot for me, but he could just as easily move up, I guess. I think he is doing an amazing job, but I can see last year being a "top out" point for him just as easy as I can see it being the next step.

 

[Jedimaster21]

I like Colston a lot, but I'm not ready to put him in the Fitz/Braylon tier yet. The lack of pedigree still scares me a little, and with Meachem and Bush there to steal catches, I just don't know if he will be long term #1 fantasy WR. He also lacks the top end speed needed to turn 8-9 TDs into 13-14. I tend to be down on him compared to many, but wanted to give a different perspective.

Here are the people I would probably draft before him:MossOwensWayneFitzEdwardsCJHoushThat puts him at WR8, and I guess he would lead my next tier of Welker, Holt, Roy Williams and Boldin. But the smallest thing over the next month or even training camp could drop him to that WR10 spot for me, but he could just as easily move up, I guess. I think he is doing an amazing job, but I can see last year being a "top out" point for him just as easy as I can see it being the next step.

I don't like Colston as much as some do, but I would definitely take him over both Housh and Owens. TO is 34 and is the type of player that will break down very quickly due to his physical style. Housh is the #2 WR on his team, and is better suited for that role regardless of whether Chad stays or not. Fitz, Braylon, Moss, Wayne, and CJ (whether it be Chad or Calvin) I agree with. I would also include Andre Johnson in that list, but after that it would be hard to say no to Colston, despite my lingering questions...

 

[saintfool]

Looking for criticism of Colston?

From Pro Football Weeklys' Audibles. The following quotes are from NFL scouts, coaches and front-office personnel, speaking on condition of anonymity. This one ran December 18th, 2007.

“(Saints WR) Marques Colston is a big stiff. He cannot run.”

Don't kill the messenger!

i think there is a morsel of information in that statement. colston doesn't have a great per reception average or yards after the catch. that part of his game is lacking. he played TE in college, so he's not a burner. however, that's not quite the same as saying "he's not a big play WR". he posted at least one reception of 30+ yards in 7 games. colston is a stud in that offense. he's going to be even better once the saints get a legit #2 WR in place to draw some coverage away from him. meachem, fwiw, is not a solid #2 yet.

 

[Sweet Love]

I like Colston a lot, but I'm not ready to put him in the Fitz/Braylon tier yet. The lack of pedigree still scares me a little, and with Meachem and Bush there to steal catches, I just don't know if he will be long term #1 fantasy WR. He also lacks the top end speed needed to turn 8-9 TDs into 13-14. I tend to be down on him compared to many, but wanted to give a different perspective.

Here are the people I would probably draft before him:MossOwensWayneFitzEdwardsCJHoushThat puts him at WR8, and I guess he would lead my next tier of Welker, Holt, Roy Williams and Boldin. But the smallest thing over the next month or even training camp could drop him to that WR10 spot for me, but he could just as easily move up, I guess. I think he is doing an amazing job, but I can see last year being a "top out" point for him just as easy as I can see it being the next step.

I don't like Colston as much as some do, but I would definitely take him over both Housh and Owens. TO is 34 and is the type of player that will break down very quickly due to his physical style. Housh is the #2 WR on his team, and is better suited for that role regardless of whether Chad stays or not. Fitz, Braylon, Moss, Wayne, and CJ (whether it be Chad or Calvin) I agree with. I would also include Andre Johnson in that list, but after that it would be hard to say no to Colston, despite my lingering questions...

My original post was done in haste and failed to mention that I was thinking redraft only. With that said, I did forget about Andre Johnson, Steve Smith and Plax Burress who I think are in the same tier with Colston, so honestly, I could see one day ranking him WR8 and the next WR12. The more I think about it, I find it interesting that many are so certain he is Top 5-6. While he has accomplished great things, another former Hofstra WR used to hold the record for most receptions to start a career and while he was a fine Jet, he was far from elite.

 

[Mr. Pink]

I like Colston a lot, but I'm not ready to put him in the Fitz/Braylon tier yet. The lack of pedigree still scares me a little, and with Meachem and Bush there to steal catches, I just don't know if he will be long term #1 fantasy WR. He also lacks the top end speed needed to turn 8-9 TDs into 13-14. I tend to be down on him compared to many, but wanted to give a different perspective.

Here are the people I would probably draft before him:MossOwensWayneFitzEdwardsCJHoushThat puts him at WR8, and I guess he would lead my next tier of Welker, Holt, Roy Williams and Boldin. But the smallest thing over the next month or even training camp could drop him to that WR10 spot for me, but he could just as easily move up, I guess. I think he is doing an amazing job, but I can see last year being a "top out" point for him just as easy as I can see it being the next step.

I don't like Colston as much as some do, but I would definitely take him over both Housh and Owens. TO is 34 and is the type of player that will break down very quickly due to his physical style. Housh is the #2 WR on his team, and is better suited for that role regardless of whether Chad stays or not. Fitz, Braylon, Moss, Wayne, and CJ (whether it be Chad or Calvin) I agree with. I would also include Andre Johnson in that list, but after that it would be hard to say no to Colston, despite my lingering questions...

I already own TO in a 3 player keeper league, but I agree, I would take Colston over Housh. Colston had a reception/target ratio of 68.5%. That is a great ratio, and one that Housh would hit back when he wasn't getting quite the number of targets he got last year. Colston will get more targets. Colston will have more value.

 

[Da Guru]

I had Drew Bress last year. around week 4 after the Saints got off to a slow start I traded Donald Driver for Colston..Brees and Colston were money.

 

[sheerterror]

Looking for criticism of Colston?

From Pro Football Weeklys' Audibles. The following quotes are from NFL scouts, coaches and front-office personnel, speaking on condition of anonymity. This one ran December 18th, 2007.

“(Saints WR) Marques Colston is a big stiff. He cannot run.”

Don't kill the messenger!

i think there is a morsel of information in that statement. colston doesn't have a great per reception average or yards after the catch. that part of his game is lacking. he played TE in college, so he's not a burner. however, that's not quite the same as saying "he's not a big play WR". he posted at least one reception of 30+ yards in 7 games. colston is a stud in that offense. he's going to be even better once the saints get a legit #2 WR in place to draw some coverage away from him. meachem, fwiw, is not a solid #2 yet.

He played WR in college.

 

[LBH]

I like Colston a lot, but I'm not ready to put him in the Fitz/Braylon tier yet. The lack of pedigree still scares me a little, and with Meachem and Bush there to steal catches, I just don't know if he will be long term #1 fantasy WR. He also lacks the top end speed needed to turn 8-9 TDs into 13-14. I tend to be down on him compared to many, but wanted to give a different perspective.

Here are the people I would probably draft before him:MossOwensWayneFitzEdwardsCJHoushThat puts him at WR8, and I guess he would lead my next tier of Welker, Holt, Roy Williams and Boldin. But the smallest thing over the next month or even training camp could drop him to that WR10 spot for me, but he could just as easily move up, I guess. I think he is doing an amazing job, but I can see last year being a "top out" point for him just as easy as I can see it being the next step.

I don't like Colston as much as some do, but I would definitely take him over both Housh and Owens. TO is 34 and is the type of player that will break down very quickly due to his physical style. Housh is the #2 WR on his team, and is better suited for that role regardless of whether Chad stays or not. Fitz, Braylon, Moss, Wayne, and CJ (whether it be Chad or Calvin) I agree with. I would also include Andre Johnson in that list, but after that it would be hard to say no to Colston, despite my lingering questions...

While he has accomplished great things, another former Hofstra WR used to hold the record for most receptions to start a career and while he was a fine Jet, he was far from elite.

Chrebet and Colston have nothing in common as far as how they play, and how they are built