BRETTSBUCKS
Footballguy
Will Ruben Drougns eat into Jacobs carries? Is this RRBC? Lynch fighting with A-Train, but could go off later in the season, i think, but a collarbone issue...?
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
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MARSHAWN LYNCH OR BRANDON JACOBS (1 Viewer)
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Jason Wood
Zoo York
Hey Brett...
Welcome to the boards
I encourage you to always give the Search a try, as you'll be impressed by how many discussions have already had a lot of flesh put on the bone. We've had a bunch of very detailed discussions about Brandon Jacobs and Marshawn Lynch, which should help you get your arms around your dilemma.
Welcome to the boards
I encourage you to always give the Search a try, as you'll be impressed by how many discussions have already had a lot of flesh put on the bone. We've had a bunch of very detailed discussions about Brandon Jacobs and Marshawn Lynch, which should help you get your arms around your dilemma.
evilempire
Footballguy
Lynch will be given every opportunity to win the job, and since he's an excellent pass catcher he's a three-down guy -- which makes him a lot better than Thomas. Lynch should be the starter from day one, but the Bills O-line isn't great, so he may have some tough sledding ahead. As for Jacobs, two things could hurt him -- Droughns isn't a total stiff, which means this could evolve into a RBBC; and Jacobs has an upright running style that allows defenders to get really good hits on him. That's going to shorten his shelf life and, in my opinion, lead to an injury this season. He's quick but not elusive in the open field, so he's not great at avoiding defenders. He's not a guy I would take as anything more than low-end RB2/high-end RB3 this season.BRETTSBUCKS said:
NYGus
Footballguy
Nothing personal evilempire but that "upright running style" theory that I keep seeing on this board is a load of crap. The guy is a beast and runs over people, not the other way around. His yardage may be low like 850-1050 range (maybe even lower than 850) but he will score between 12 and 15 TD's this season.Jacobs over unproven Lynch any day of the week.
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Rev
Footballguy
Calling Jacobs proven is like calling turd tasty. He's got a ways to go to earn that title, IMO. Both of these guys do.Nothing personal evilempire but that "upright running style" theory that I keep seeing on this board is a load of crap. The guy is a beast and runs over people, not the other way around. His yardage may be low like 850-1050 range (maybe even lower than 850) but he will score between 12 and 15 TD's this season.Jacobs over unproven Lynch any day of the week.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
NYGus
Footballguy
I called Jacobs PROVEN? You might want to read that again, REV.Calling Jacobs proven is like calling turd tasty. He's got a ways to go to earn that title, IMO. Both of these guys do.Nothing personal evilempire but that "upright running style" theory that I keep seeing on this board is a load of crap. The guy is a beast and runs over people, not the other way around. His yardage may be low like 850-1050 range (maybe even lower than 850) but he will score between 12 and 15 TD's this season.Jacobs over unproven Lynch any day of the week.
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nygiants56
Footballguy
Jacobs is a stop-gap until the new coaching regime comes to NY next season, bringing in perhaps Michael Turner in a trade.
Lynch is clearly the RB of the future for the Bills..if you're in a keeper, Lynch has significantly more value. If you're in a redraft , Lynch still has more value because he's likely to catch more passes, and score more 20+ yard TDs than Jacobs.
at some point,they have to push A. Thomas aside, and play Lynch F/t..will probably happen by week 6 this year..
Lynch has a far better chance to see 1000 yards than does Jacobs, imo..Droughns will steal a lot of Jacobs 'thunder'.pun intended ( lightning/thunder thing the giants did with tiki/dayne/jacobs).LOL
Lynch is clearly the RB of the future for the Bills..if you're in a keeper, Lynch has significantly more value. If you're in a redraft , Lynch still has more value because he's likely to catch more passes, and score more 20+ yard TDs than Jacobs.
at some point,they have to push A. Thomas aside, and play Lynch F/t..will probably happen by week 6 this year..
Lynch has a far better chance to see 1000 yards than does Jacobs, imo..Droughns will steal a lot of Jacobs 'thunder'.pun intended ( lightning/thunder thing the giants did with tiki/dayne/jacobs).LOL
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Nookular Power
Footballguy
Collarbone issue with Lynch? Is there something I missed, or are we confusing 1st round rookies?
Chris Smith
The Head Goon!
I am not sold on Lynch for the upcoming season as a dependable fantasy starter. At least to start the season.
However Lynch's upside >>> than is Jacobs upside.
If Lynch can prove to be a good pass blocker coming out of the gate, he may indeed push A-Train out of the picture as his rushing ability is outstanding and he played in a pro-style offense with Cal.
However with a young quarterback like Losman, the team won't want below-average pass protection in the backfield so he will have to show the ability to make the right blocking reads in the backfield which isn't always easy for young backs to pick up...
If I need to draft one of the two players, I am probably leaning towards Lynch for his upside alone. I don't see many ways for Jacobs to avoid RBBC with Droughns this season.
However Lynch's upside >>> than is Jacobs upside.
If Lynch can prove to be a good pass blocker coming out of the gate, he may indeed push A-Train out of the picture as his rushing ability is outstanding and he played in a pro-style offense with Cal.
However with a young quarterback like Losman, the team won't want below-average pass protection in the backfield so he will have to show the ability to make the right blocking reads in the backfield which isn't always easy for young backs to pick up...
If I need to draft one of the two players, I am probably leaning towards Lynch for his upside alone. I don't see many ways for Jacobs to avoid RBBC with Droughns this season.
hephner
Footballguy
No, you didn't miss anything. He's definitely confused on that one.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
SHARK POOL -OR- ASSISTANT COACH
I dont believe so. They are similarly positioned in the ADP list and this is a question i was mulling myself today. They are in the same ballpark as others (Eg A Green, Caddy, LaMont, etc.) These two share a new situation, which would be the reason it might be here in the main pool
Riffraff
Footballguy
Aye, Lynch was the rookie with the suspect back. Peterson has the collarbone concern.
Rev
Footballguy
Your post above clearly asserts that Jacobs has an edge over Lynch because Lynch isn't proven. I'm no scholar, but that seems to mean that Jacobs must be proven in your opinion, or he wouldn't have that edge over the unproven Lynch. If that's not what your saying, your post is above my head. Not trying to catch you in your words or anything, so feel free ahead to clarify. I've certainly made people scratch their heads before on this board!I called Jacobs PROVEN? You might want to read that again, REV.Calling Jacobs proven is like calling turd tasty. He's got a ways to go to earn that title, IMO. Both of these guys do.Nothing personal evilempire but that "upright running style" theory that I keep seeing on this board is a load of crap. The guy is a beast and runs over people, not the other way around. His yardage may be low like 850-1050 range (maybe even lower than 850) but he will score between 12 and 15 TD's this season.Jacobs over unproven Lynch any day of the week.
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Rev
Footballguy
Actually it is a very good group of owners. I've made a bunch of trades that ended up netting me alot of high draft picks in the last couple years, and so I've ended up with a good crew of young guys with lots of upside... Still, I haven't won the league in 3 years (last year I didn't get to the final 4!), as there are a couple squads that always get in my way.You must be playing with some real sharks there!!
GoBills02
Footballguy
mdog1967
Footballguy
Upright Running style load of crap?, The upright running style will wittle you down to a 3.4 ypc in short order. It makes it very easy for defenders to bring your butt to the ground, even at 265lbs, Jacobs is a Fullback pretending to be a RB, he may very well score mucho points this year due to a number of factors eluded to on this board. The most important thing to remeber is the late round draft of Amahd Bradshaw, ignore him all you want, I say he will be the starter next year and Jacobs will find himself on the fast track to short yardage and goal line back. You can forget about the late round Bradshaw was drafted in, there were only two backs worthy of drafting ahead of him in this draft. He is head and shoulders above Irons, Henry, Jackson, Bush and every other talent drafted ahead of him save for Lynch and Peterson. The only issue, the only issue, the only issue again the only issue were a few minor charges and runins with the authoritys. Those issues have also been explained, at least to the Giants satisfaction. Igonre him and you ll be crying shortly if your banking on Jacobs to be the man.Go with Lynch, he will be the Next LT. He will have his ups and downs this year but the guy is uber talented.Nothing personal evilempire but that "upright running style" theory that I keep seeing on this board is a load of crap. The guy is a beast and runs over people, not the other way around. His yardage may be low like 850-1050 range (maybe even lower than 850) but he will score between 12 and 15 TD's this season.Jacobs over unproven Lynch any day of the week.
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KellysHeroes
Footballguy
A WDID if I ever say one....
Chris Smith
The Head Goon!
Good pointGoBills02 said:
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
mdog1967 said:Upright Running style load of crap?, The upright running style will wittle you down to a 3.4 ypc in short order. It makes it very easy for defenders to bring your butt to the ground, even at 265lbs, Jacobs is a Fullback pretending to be a RB, he may very well score mucho points this year due to a number of factors eluded to on this board. The most important thing to remeber is the late round draft of Amahd Bradshaw, ignore him all you want, I say he will be the starter next year and Jacobs will find himself on the fast track to short yardage and goal line back. You can forget about the late round Bradshaw was drafted in, there were only two backs worthy of drafting ahead of him in this draft. He is head and shoulders above Irons, Henry, Jackson, Bush and every other talent drafted ahead of him save for Lynch and Peterson. The only issue, the only issue, the only issue again the only issue were a few minor charges and runins with the authoritys. Those issues have also been explained, at least to the Giants satisfaction. Igonre him and you ll be crying shortly if your banking on Jacobs to be the man.Go with Lynch, he will be the Next LT. He will have his ups and downs this year but the guy is uber talented.Nothing personal evilempire but that "upright running style" theory that I keep seeing on this board is a load of crap. The guy is a beast and runs over people, not the other way around. His yardage may be low like 850-1050 range (maybe even lower than 850) but he will score between 12 and 15 TD's this season.Jacobs over unproven Lynch any day of the week.
This sentence is hilarious. As a Giant fan, I think Jacobs can play well in this league. I also think Droughns is an excellent backup, but poor starter, so he can be effective if not spectacular (sounds like Thomas Jones). If Bradshaw is this good he would be part of a 3 headed monster. I still think Jacobs will be the man for points, but I don't think he will ever have the endurance to carry more than 300 times the way he runs.
walkwithme
Footballguy
Wow what is up with the running style comment? Are you guys using that to judge whether to select Jacobs? This guy is 6-4 260lbs how low do you want him running? I mean this guy is the size of most DE's he is delivering more of the hits than taking them. Not like a Earl Cambell where he is looking to deliver a blow to any and all he is just running high because the guy is tall. I say Jacobs gets his 250 carries for the season and he will be a great RB 2 pickup. That Giants line is good for one thing for sure and that is run blocking. Lynch may turn out to have a good rookie season but for redraft purposes I have to go with Jacobs here
