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[NewlyRetired]

Who are even the Avengers right now? I know the new Captain America and I guess Spiderman (???) and I truly can’t think of anybody else. Maybe Dr Strange? Seems like everyone from the original movies is done.

I am playing a little loose with the definition of Avenger here but here is some info I think is correct (some one let me know what is wrong)

Characters (played by the original actors, minus Hulk of course) who I think are still alive in the Sacred Timeline: Hulk, Thor, Spiderman, Dr Strange, Antman/Wasp, Captain Marvel, Starlord, War Machine, Winter Soldier

Characters who will likely be portrayed by new actors: Captain America (original character got movie old), Hawkeye (original character retired, name handed off to protege), Falcon (original character became the new Captain America), Black Widow (original character died, possible replacement could be Natashas movie sister), Black Panther (original actor passed away, role was taken on by his movie sister)

 

[Corporation]

Wow that RDJ news was shocking. I told my son I thought it was AI generated fake news. This should be good.

 

[Capella]

Characters (played by the original actors, minus Hulk of course) who I think are still alive in the Sacred Timeline: Hulk, Thor, Spiderman, Dr Strange, Antman/Wasp, Captain Marvel, Starlord, War Machine, Winter Soldier

Characters who will likely be portrayed by new actors: Captain America (original got movie old)….

Sheesh. No wonder they brought back RDJ

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Assume some tony stark variant? I am surprised they revealed it instead of making it a huge thing to learn in film.

 

[TLEF316]

Yeah, unless this is Tony Stark variant from a parallel universe becoming a villain instead of a hero(and I'm not even a huge fan of that, but since the multiverse is where they're going, it at least makes sense) ....this is stupid.

I know he's a great actor and the MCU is desperately looking for a boost, but in the MCU....he's Tony Stark/Iron man. He's the most iconic character in the franchise. Having him, of all people, play another part as a character from "our earth" is dumb. It would be like if the next Star Wars movie cast Mark Hammell or Harrison Ford as the antagonist. We're just supposed to go with THAT? Come on.

I have no idea why they just didn't re-cast Majors. Yeah, its weird that his face is on all the Kang variants from a couple of movies and TV shows, but stuff happens. Nobody would have batted an eye. Just go with it.

 

[thecatch]

I have no idea why they just didn't re-cast Majors. Yeah, its weird that his face is on all the Kang variants from a couple of movies and TV shows, but stuff happens. Nobody would have batted an eye. Just go with it.

It gave them an excuse to get out of a dumb plotline that wasn't working.

 

[Psychopav]

They should lean into multiverse at this point and go with "our" universe never had Avengers or Thanos. Make Doom the new big bad and Fantastic Four and Strange the new guardians of our reality. They could still bring in other multiverse heros like Wanda and Ant Man of they wanted to without losing continuity. Then they could reboot with street level heros and even X-Men without it being too weird.

It would be nice if Doom wasn't Stark, and that he never takes the mask off, but it's not likely they will be able to resist.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I have no idea why they just didn't re-cast Majors. Yeah, its weird that his face is on all the Kang variants from a couple of movies and TV shows, but stuff happens. Nobody would have batted an eye. Just go with it.

It gave them an excuse to get out of a dumb plotline that wasn't working.

I guess the way they ended Loki and Ant-Man can make this work, but it’s such a weak payoff.

 

[thecatch]

I have no idea why they just didn't re-cast Majors. Yeah, its weird that his face is on all the Kang variants from a couple of movies and TV shows, but stuff happens. Nobody would have batted an eye. Just go with it.

It gave them an excuse to get out of a dumb plotline that wasn't working.

I guess the way they ended Loki and Ant-Man can make this work, but it’s such a weak payoff.

The whole storyline was a sunk cost. They tied it off in Loki and can move on with something that works better than the movies they put out over the last 5 years or so.

 

[Skipdog77]

Assume some tony stark variant? I am surprised they revealed it instead of making it a huge thing to learn in film.

It'll be his long lost twin brother, Toby Stark.

 

[-OZ-]

its weird that his face is on all the Kang variants from a couple of movies and TV shows,

This would have been so easy to either address or just move past. It isn’t even the first or second time.

It gave them an excuse to get out of a dumb plotline that wasn't working.

That makes sense.

 

[Chaka]

Man it is over the top with the language though. Oddly, the violence doesn't bother me

AMERICA, HECK YEAH!!!

 

[FiredMartz]

Great flick....loved the tribute to Rob Liefeld

 

[Capella]

Packed in this theater today. Like 2002 in here.

 

[Capella]

Obviously he is a great actor but it is going to seem really weird watching him play another role in the same series of movies and every one kind of ignoring that he looks just like Tony Stark unless they some how found a way to write that in.

People on Twitter seem to think he will play a Tony Stark variant of Doom which I don’t even know what that really means but it’s one idea.

 

[The Dude]

Hate the RDJ idea of playing Doom - but will give Russo brothers some leeway for now.

Absolutely hate taking Doom away from the Fantastic Four.

 

[Chaka]

RDJ as Doom feels like a bait & switch.

 

[Chaka]

Absolutely hate taking Doom away from the Fantastic Four.

Feels like a way to introduce the FF.

 

[Chaka]

So, what's the deal with Vision? I mean, last I saw him was Wandavision and the whole Ship of Theseus deal.

I assume he isn't done in the MCU, and he's a relatively easy character to switch actors if Bettany is over it.

 

[Chaka]

And speaking of Vision, where is Simon Williams already?

Pretty sure he's not a popular character overall but, darn it I want me some Wonder Man!

 

[The Dude]

Absolutely hate taking Doom away from the Fantastic Four.

Feels like a way to introduce the FF.

FF movie 1 occurs in the past

 

[Chaka]

Absolutely hate taking Doom away from the Fantastic Four.

Feels like a way to introduce the FF.

FF movie 1 occurs in the past

Are they cannon?

Seriously, the below is a spoiler!!

Spoiler

Deadpool & Wolverine says, yes BTW but it was also a gag.

I mean it.

 

[Psychopav]

FF casting blows. I mean, I like Pedro Pascal but he's no Reed Richards. Why did they have perfect casting until they got to the FF? Bad decision imo.

 

[Chaka]

FF casting blows. I mean, I like Pedro Pascal but he's no Reed Richards. Why did they have perfect casting until they got to the FF? Bad decision imo.

I always assumed Reed would eventually be played by Jim from The Office, and he was for a hot second. What happened?

I get that Pedro is huge right now but he feels like a shoehorn option to put butts in seats, rather than a match for the character.

It's like casting Depp or Decaprio as Iron Man in 2008. They would have been okay, fine even, for a while, but was there a better fit in the near, or long term for the role than RDJ? RDJ who was a tremendous liability who hadn't been truly relevant since what? Weird Science?

Hey, I love Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang as much as anyone but he was far, far, far from a marque public draw when he got the Iron Man role in 2008 but Favreau stumped for him, hard.

Pascal will be fine, good even but he's not Reed Richards. I'm not 100% that Jim is either but he makes a ton more sense than Pascal.

 

[Chaka]

Quick straw poll for everyone: Who is your Reed Richards?

 

[WVU Alum]

I choose Timothy Olyphant or Yahya Abdul-Mateen

 

[Chaka]

I choose Timothy Olyphant or Yahya Abdul-Mateen

Olyphant is an interesting option, he certainly has the right look but, perhaps a touch old (56) to start a franchise around. Although, as Reed Richards I guess everything would pretty much be CGI anyway so perhaps not.

Not sure about Abdul-Mateen. Why the guy who is most know for playing Manta in two horrible films? (and Morpheus in a third horrible film).

 

[B Maverick]

Who are even the Avengers right now? I know the new Captain America and I guess Spiderman (???) and I truly can’t think of anybody else. Maybe Dr Strange? Seems like everyone from the original movies is done.

I am playing a little loose with the definition of Avenger here but here is some info I think is correct (some one let me know what is wrong)

Characters (played by the original actors, minus Hulk of course) who I think are still alive in the Sacred Timeline: Hulk, Thor, Spiderman, Dr Strange, Antman/Wasp, Captain Marvel, Starlord, War Machine, Winter Soldier

Characters who will likely be portrayed by new actors: Captain America (original character got movie old), Hawkeye (original character retired, name handed off to protege), Falcon (original character became the new Captain America), Black Widow (original character died, possible replacement could be Natashas movie sister), Black Panther (original actor passed away, role was taken on by his movie sister)

Will be interesting to see who the Avengers lineup includes.
Avengers as it stands looks like Captain America/Falcon, Dr Strange, Spidey, Ant-Man, War Machine, Hulk, Thor
Some of those mentioned (Winter Soldier, Yelena (Widow's sister), US Agent are all part of the Thunderbolts.
You also have the potential Young Avengers (Ms Marvel, Kate Bishop, Cassie Lang).
Other characters out there: Captain Marvel, Maria Rambeau, Suri (Black Panther), Starlord, Love, and more.

From what it sounds like though, it doesn't really matter who is on what team as the build up to Secret Wars and all heck breaks loose.

Spoiler

Rumor is it will end up being Fox Universe vs MCU. Basically Mutants vs MCU. Doom overseeing it all

 

[Payne]

Deadpool & Wolverine was an absolute blast. Entire family enjoyed it.

The cameos were so well done too. We had people standing and clapping at one point.
Well-deserved when you consider the music and tone involved in that cameo.

 

[Peak]

So, what's the deal with Vision? I mean, last I saw him was Wandavision and the whole Ship of Theseus deal.

I assume he isn't done in the MCU, and he's a relatively easy character to switch actors if Bettany is over it.

"Vision Quest" is supposed to be in the works - but I don't recall it being mentioned at SDCC. Maybe saving it for D24? But it's supposed to follow the comic book arc of the same name with Vision's "family", which includes two android children - one of which is named Vish, I think.

 

[Peak]

And speaking of Vision, where is Simon Williams already?

Pretty sure he's not a popular character overall but, darn it I want me some Wonder Man!

Another one in the works, but I don't think it will be tied too closely to comic book canon - especially since Vision is already created from the Soul Stone and didn't use Simon Williams' brainwaves to create his personality. Wonder Man was one of my favorite characters growing up, but I have really low expectations of his D+ show. I just haven't liked what I've heard.

 

[B Maverick]

Olyphant is an interesting option, he certainly has the right look but, perhaps a touch old (56) to start a franchise around. Although, as Reed Richards I guess everything would pretty much be CGI anyway so perhaps not.

Aren't Doom and Reed supposed to have been classmates in college? That's what I remember of the comics, but could be wrong.
RDJ at 59 would fit with Olyphant.


I am not sure how I feel about RDJ as Doom. He is a great fit for it, but after years as Stark/Ironman, using the same actor seems odd. But I am excited for the potential.

 

[Chaka]

So, what's the deal with Vision? I mean, last I saw him was Wandavision and the whole Ship of Theseus deal.

I assume he isn't done in the MCU, and he's a relatively easy character to switch actors if Bettany is over it.

"Vision Quest" is supposed to be in the works - but I don't recall it being mentioned at SDCC. Maybe saving it for D24? But it's supposed to follow the comic book arc of the same name with Vision's "family", which includes two android children - one of which is named Vish, I think.

Is he gonna drop down to 168 lbs and wrestle Shute?

 

[Harry Manback]

I choose Timothy Olyphant or Yahya Abdul-Mateen

Olyphant is an interesting option, he certainly has the right look but, perhaps a touch old (56) to start a franchise around. Although, as Reed Richards I guess everything would pretty much be CGI anyway so perhaps not.

Not sure about Abdul-Mateen. Why the guy who is most know for playing Manta in two horrible films? (and Morpheus in a third horrible film).

Wasn't Abdul-Mateen also Dr. Manhattan in a quite good "Watchment" show?

 

[Doug B]

I

Quick straw poll for everyone: Who is your Reed Richards?

William Jackson Harper (The Good Place), age 44.

 

[WVU Alum]

I choose Timothy Olyphant or Yahya Abdul-Mateen

Olyphant is an interesting option, he certainly has the right look but, perhaps a touch old (56) to start a franchise around. Although, as Reed Richards I guess everything would pretty much be CGI anyway so perhaps not.

Not sure about Abdul-Mateen. Why the guy who is most know for playing Manta in two horrible films? (and Morpheus in a third horrible film).

Wasn't Abdul-Mateen also Dr. Manhattan in a quite good "Watchment" show?

That is where I remember him from, and a decent Candyman reboot

 

[Chaka]

I choose Timothy Olyphant or Yahya Abdul-Mateen

Olyphant is an interesting option, he certainly has the right look but, perhaps a touch old (56) to start a franchise around. Although, as Reed Richards I guess everything would pretty much be CGI anyway so perhaps not.

Not sure about Abdul-Mateen. Why the guy who is most know for playing Manta in two horrible films? (and Morpheus in a third horrible film).

Wasn't Abdul-Mateen also Dr. Manhattan in a quite good "Watchment" show?

Didn't realize that was him. I can see Dr. Manhattan as Reed Richards.

 

[Chaka]

I

Quick straw poll for everyone: Who is your Reed Richards?

William Jackson Harper (The Good Place), age 44.

Never seen it but that guy has a Reed Richards vibe to him as well.

 

[Tecumseh]

Spoiler

Anyone know why Ant-Man’s corpse was the lair in The Void? I didn’t see Ant-Man 3, but I don’t think he’s dead…

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Spoiler

Anyone know why Ant-Man’s corpse was the lair in The Void? I didn’t see Ant-Man 3, but I don’t think he’s dead…

There was a comic series where the villians 'won' and one of villains used his giant corpse as a base of operations.

 

[Chaka]

Spoiler

Anyone know why Ant-Man’s corpse was the lair in The Void? I didn’t see Ant-Man 3, but I don’t think he’s dead…

Spoiler

It's still the multiverse, an Ant Man ended up in the Void and died. I mean there were about 50 Deadpools at the end of the movie

 

[Corporation]

Quick straw poll for everyone: Who is your Reed Richards?

I really liked Krasinski as Reed. I also love Pedro but just doesn't seem like a good fit.

Someone else I thought about was Nikolaj Coster-Waldau (Jamie from GoT). He has a similar look and build to Krasinski so I guess I have him typecast.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Quick straw poll for everyone: Who is your Reed Richards?

I really liked Krasinski as Reed. I also love Pedro but just doesn't seem like a good fit.

Someone else I thought about was Nikolaj Coster-Waldau (Jamie from GoT). He has a similar look and build to Krasinski so I guess I have him typecast.

I like that suggestion.

 

[Psychopav]

Quick straw poll for everyone: Who is your Reed Richards?

I really liked Krasinski as Reed. I also love Pedro but just doesn't seem like a good fit.

Someone else I thought about was Nikolaj Coster-Waldau (Jamie from GoT). He has a similar look and build to Krasinski so I guess I have him typecast.

I like that suggestion.

Me too but Mr. Fantastic needs both hands imo.

 

[Chaka]

Quick straw poll for everyone: Who is your Reed Richards?

I really liked Krasinski as Reed. I also love Pedro but just doesn't seem like a good fit.

Someone else I thought about was Nikolaj Coster-Waldau (Jamie from GoT). He has a similar look and build to Krasinski so I guess I have him typecast.

I like that suggestion.

Me too but Mr. Fantastic needs both hands imo.

True. Maybe he'd be a better Johnny Storm, depending on who they cast as his sister.

 

[bryhamm]

Spoiler

Anyone know why Ant-Man’s corpse was the lair in The Void? I didn’t see Ant-Man 3, but I don’t think he’s dead…

Spoiler

It's still the multiverse, an Ant Man ended up in the Void and died. I mean there were about 50 Deadpools at the end of the movie

When the credits were rolling, I happened to notice who played one of them. It was a pretty famous actor. So I went to IMDB to check on the others. There are a bunch of them played by people associated with RR. Pretty cool to check them all out.

 

[Capella]

Not movie related but my son and I got into building legos recently and we did the big Daily Bugle and Avengers tower sets. They are amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing to build and if you’re looking for a new, very expensive but satisfying hobby I totally recommend.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Not movie related but my son and I got into building legos recently and we did the big Daily Bugle and Avengers tower sets. They are amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing to build and if you’re looking for a new, very expensive but satisfying hobby I totally recommend.

How old is your son?

 

[Capella]

Not movie related but my son and I got into building legos recently and we did the big Daily Bugle and Avengers tower sets. They are amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing to build and if you’re looking for a new, very expensive but satisfying hobby I totally recommend.

How old is your son?

6. He builds “the guys” as he calls them and then the flat stuff on the sets. I pick up all the bigger stuff and high rising parts.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I love how Reynolds got some screen time for the Wrexham flag