Matt Schaub Expected back this week (1 Viewer)

[the spanker]

Rotoworld - Matt Schaub-QB-Texans Dec. 2 - 7:51 pm et

"Barring a setback in practice this week, Matt Schaub (knee) is expected to return to the starting role this Sunday in Green Bay.

It's safe for Schaub owners to plug him back in, but be sure to check back later in the week for updates on his status. Keep in mind, however, Schaub will be rusty after a month off and will be facing a Packers defense that allows only the 25th most fantasy points to opposing quarterbacks."

I need AJ this week for my playoff week big time this week but I do have Steve Smith as an alternative play if the weather in GB acts up.

Daniels hasn't done anything at all during Schaub's absence so he has upside no matter what. But does AJ have a bad week because of a rusty Schaub and good Packer D on the road this week?

Any nervous AJ owners?

Thoughts?

 

[Deuce'sWild]

As a Daniels owner...

 

[-jb-]

Schaub is way better than Sage, just not as durable. Him playing is a good thing for all Texan players.

 

[tombonneau]

As a Daniels owner...

 

[Wrigley]

As a Daniels owner...

AJ Owner

 

[ScottyFargo]

Nervous about Andre Johnson? No. He'll still get a tremendous amount of targets, and the way Slaton has been running the ball I don't think this game is going to be too easy for the Packers to concentrate on just shutting down AJ. The Packers couldn't stop Steve Smith or Roddy White (132 yards and a TD!), and right now I think Johnson is the most talented of the trio.

I will join you with a drink.

 

[Trap Play]

I fail to see how Owen Daniels production could get worse with Schaub in as QB even during his first week back.

 

[the spanker]

I fail to see how Owen Daniels production could get worse with Schaub in as QB.

True. I did say "Daniels hasn't done anything at all during Schaub's absence so he has upside no matter what."I'm just hoping Schaub can really bring him back to the elite TE he was before his injury.

Will Houston focus more on the run this game?

 

[Breesisdaman]

How good a start is he ? He has GB secondary this week and a pretty tough Oakland secondary next week.

 

[NajehHejan]

As a Daniels owner...

Even with Schaub due back this week, is Daniels startable? Dude has 7 catches the past 4 weeks. I know Sage hates his guts, but Daniels doesn't even seem to be in the Texans game plan anymore. With week 14 being the playoffs for most, how can you drink to a good times Schaub-Daniels reunion with confidence? Is this assuming no better options, or is Daniels a must start regardless?

 

[ScottyFargo]

How good a start is he ? He has GB secondary this week and a pretty tough Oakland secondary next week.

Green Bay hasn't stopped any elite offensive WR's this year, apart from the Berrian/Frerotte deal but most don't consider Berrian to be even a WR2 for most teams.Edit: O.k. they shut down Wayne and T.O. I lend that more to Peyton's early injury recovery and T.O.'s unreliability this year, though.

C. Johnson  6 129 2 47 M. Austin  2 115 1 63  (Terrell Owens held to two catches in the win)R. White  8 132 1 37 L. Moore  5 115 2 70 M. Colston  1 70 1 70 S. Smith  4 105 0 54

Quite a few more stud WR's with a gunslinging QB have broken loose against this D than have been shut down.

 

[the spanker]

As a Daniels owner...

Even with Schaub due back this week, is Daniels startable? Dude has 7 catches the past 4 weeks. I know Sage hates his guts, but Daniels doesn't even seem to be in the Texans game plan anymore. With week 14 being the playoffs for most, how can you drink to a good times Schaub-Daniels reunion with confidence? Is this assuming no better options, or is Daniels a must start regardless?

Wow good call. I didn't realize how low Daniels has sunk. I'm debating to start Shockey over him this week. I need production from that TE position this week! Playoff season is on the line here.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Very happy Schaub is back, 7-80-0 over the last month for #81.

Still, think I will keep rolling with Keller until I see production; two tough matchups for the Texans passing game.

 

[zdaddy]

As a Daniels owner...

Even with Schaub due back this week, is Daniels startable? Dude has 7 catches the past 4 weeks. I know Sage hates his guts, but Daniels doesn't even seem to be in the Texans game plan anymore. With week 14 being the playoffs for most, how can you drink to a good times Schaub-Daniels reunion with confidence? Is this assuming no better options, or is Daniels a must start regardless?

Daniels was a stud with Shaub..Was nothing with Rosy...What is so hard to understand here.

 

[NajehHejan]

As a Daniels owner...

Even with Schaub due back this week, is Daniels startable? Dude has 7 catches the past 4 weeks. I know Sage hates his guts, but Daniels doesn't even seem to be in the Texans game plan anymore. With week 14 being the playoffs for most, how can you drink to a good times Schaub-Daniels reunion with confidence? Is this assuming no better options, or is Daniels a must start regardless?

Daniels was a stud with Shaub..Was nothing with Rosy...What is so hard to understand here.

What I'm saying is I don't think it's so cut and dry. Like the other poster, I have Shockey as well and need to think long and hard about whether to roll with Shockey or Daniels. Sure Daniels can't get any worse but can he turn it back on that quickly again? Playoffs are do or die.

 

[the spanker]

As a Daniels owner...

Even with Schaub due back this week, is Daniels startable? Dude has 7 catches the past 4 weeks. I know Sage hates his guts, but Daniels doesn't even seem to be in the Texans game plan anymore. With week 14 being the playoffs for most, how can you drink to a good times Schaub-Daniels reunion with confidence? Is this assuming no better options, or is Daniels a must start regardless?

Daniels was a stud with Shaub..Was nothing with Rosy...What is so hard to understand here.

What I'm saying is I don't think it's so cut and dry. Like the other poster, I have Shockey as well and need to think long and hard about whether to roll with Shockey or Daniels. Sure Daniels can't get any worse but can he turn it back on that quickly again? Playoffs are do or die.

Well don't be modest when you decide. PM to let me know who your going with between the two.

 

[chihawk]

I think they will be alright as long as Schaub is able to practice consistently this week before the game...shake off some rust and get his timing back.

 

[Road Warriors]

As a Daniels owner...

Even with Schaub due back this week, is Daniels startable? Dude has 7 catches the past 4 weeks. I know Sage hates his guts, but Daniels doesn't even seem to be in the Texans game plan anymore. With week 14 being the playoffs for most, how can you drink to a good times Schaub-Daniels reunion with confidence? Is this assuming no better options, or is Daniels a must start regardless?

Daniels was a stud with Shaub..Was nothing with Rosy...What is so hard to understand here.

What I'm saying is I don't think it's so cut and dry. Like the other poster, I have Shockey as well and need to think long and hard about whether to roll with Shockey or Daniels. Sure Daniels can't get any worse but can he turn it back on that quickly again? Playoffs are do or die.

I haven't seen any of the Rosenfels Texans games. Has Daniels not been open? Has he been dropping passes? Has he been kept in to block more? Or does Rosenfels focus on the wideouts and not up the seam?From the stat lines, it looks more like Rosenfels doesn't/didn't look to Daniels in his progressions, but that's just basing it on Daniels production and targets. Schaub definitely looks Daniels way, and had a nice repore with him earlier in the year. I will roll with Daniels this week, and hope Schaub remembers who he is.

 

[thehornet]

It's pretty simple actually. Daniels is still very much a part of the Texans gameplan, but Roseyballs isn't good enough to get it to him.

 

[dmac37]

I own Schaub, AJ, and Daniels. I upgrade AJ some and Daniels A LOT.

The trick is trying to figure out where to rank Schaub this week. If you have another stud QB you play the stud wait and see with Schaub. If Schaub is good to go health wise I think you rank him as a low #1 QB this week.

In his 6 complete games this year, only 1 bad FF game (at Tenn) 7.60pts the other 5 games- 18.50, 29.75, 28.45, 21.45, 26.00

Do you start Schaub over a mid range #1 QB with a tough match up or a weak QB with a good match up??

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

If the production is down this week, it wouldn't be because of Schaub. It would be because of the pass defense.

 

[Brutis]

I own Schaub, AJ, and Daniels. I upgrade AJ some and Daniels A LOT. The trick is trying to figure out where to rank Schaub this week. If you have another stud QB you play the stud wait and see with Schaub. If Schaub is good to go health wise I think you rank him as a low #1 QB this week. In his 6 complete games this year, only 1 bad FF game (at Tenn) 7.60pts the other 5 games- 18.50, 29.75, 28.45, 21.45, 26.00Do you start Schaub over a mid range #1 QB with a tough match up or a weak QB with a good match up??

Im actually thinking about taking a chance on Shaub over Romo this week. Playoff game and I cant afford junk from Romo against the steelers.

 

[PatrickT]

Any expected impact to Walter based solely on Schaub under center? This is his scheduled every other up week.

 

[blackjack23]

I dont think I have the cajones to start Schaub over Big Ben

 

[djdx2]

I would start Schaub over Romo this week. The Steelers Defense has been shut down the past few weeks, not allowing over 10 points 4 out of the 5 past weeks. And this week their secondary gets healthy with the return of Bryant McFadden who is probably their best CB, no more William Gay (not that there is anything wrong with that).

 

[Lobary]

As a Daniels owner...

Even with Schaub due back this week, is Daniels startable? Dude has 7 catches the past 4 weeks. I know Sage hates his guts, but Daniels doesn't even seem to be in the Texans game plan anymore. With week 14 being the playoffs for most, how can you drink to a good times Schaub-Daniels reunion with confidence? Is this assuming no better options, or is Daniels a must start regardless?

Daniels was a stud with Shaub..Was nothing with Rosy...What is so hard to understand here.

What I'm saying is I don't think it's so cut and dry. Like the other poster, I have Shockey as well and need to think long and hard about whether to roll with Shockey or Daniels. Sure Daniels can't get any worse but can he turn it back on that quickly again? Playoffs are do or die.

I haven't seen any of the Rosenfels Texans games. Has Daniels not been open? Has he been dropping passes? Has he been kept in to block more? Or does Rosenfels focus on the wideouts and not up the seam?From the stat lines, it looks more like Rosenfels doesn't/didn't look to Daniels in his progressions, but that's just basing it on Daniels production and targets. Schaub definitely looks Daniels way, and had a nice repore with him earlier in the year. I will roll with Daniels this week, and hope Schaub remembers who he is.

Everyone seems to forget that Daniels had his most active game of the year at Minnesota (11 rec, 133 yds) with Rosenfels. Daniels has definitely been getting open and is not being kept in to block, but his production has dropped off the cliff since that game. From what I've seen, his disappearance is a function of very poor passes from Rosenfels and a shift in the play-calling from Shanahak. One of OD's bread-and-butter plays is when they run the play action boot and get the QB on the move. Daniels is often open downfield on that play for a nice 10-15 yard gain, but since Rosenfels took over that play has failed a few times because of inaccurate passes. Additionally, they've stopped throwing it to him in the red zone. It's worth noting that one of OD's two red zone targets over the last month happened early in the Baltimore game. The Texans had 1st and goal on the 1 and they called the play action play. He was wide freakin open in the corner of the end zone for an easy TD but Rosenfels threw a flat pass that Ngata was able to bat up in the air for an interception.

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

As a Daniels owner...

Even with Schaub due back this week, is Daniels startable? Dude has 7 catches the past 4 weeks. I know Sage hates his guts, but Daniels doesn't even seem to be in the Texans game plan anymore. With week 14 being the playoffs for most, how can you drink to a good times Schaub-Daniels reunion with confidence? Is this assuming no better options, or is Daniels a must start regardless?

Daniels was a stud with Shaub..Was nothing with Rosy...What is so hard to understand here.

What I'm saying is I don't think it's so cut and dry. Like the other poster, I have Shockey as well and need to think long and hard about whether to roll with Shockey or Daniels. Sure Daniels can't get any worse but can he turn it back on that quickly again? Playoffs are do or die.

I haven't seen any of the Rosenfels Texans games. Has Daniels not been open? Has he been dropping passes? Has he been kept in to block more? Or does Rosenfels focus on the wideouts and not up the seam?From the stat lines, it looks more like Rosenfels doesn't/didn't look to Daniels in his progressions, but that's just basing it on Daniels production and targets. Schaub definitely looks Daniels way, and had a nice repore with him earlier in the year. I will roll with Daniels this week, and hope Schaub remembers who he is.

Everyone seems to forget that Daniels had his most active game of the year at Minnesota (11 rec, 133 yds) with Rosenfels. Daniels has definitely been getting open and is not being kept in to block, but his production has dropped off the cliff since that game. From what I've seen, his disappearance is a function of very poor passes from Rosenfels and a shift in the play-calling from Shanahak. One of OD's bread-and-butter plays is when they run the play action boot and get the QB on the move. Daniels is often open downfield on that play for a nice 10-15 yard gain, but since Rosenfels took over that play has failed a few times because of inaccurate passes. Additionally, they've stopped throwing it to him in the red zone. It's worth noting that one of OD's two red zone targets over the last month happened early in the Baltimore game. The Texans had 1st and goal on the 1 and they called the play action play. He was wide freakin open in the corner of the end zone for an easy TD but Rosenfels threw a flat pass that Ngata was able to bat up in the air for an interception.

I would also add that the Texans have been running a bit more no matter where they are on the field with Rosenrosen at QB. It's not just in the red-zone. Monday they played ball control on 3rd down and settled for field goals on 4th. I should think some if not most of that had to do with confidence in Rosenrosen turning the ball over. They might be a tad more agressive with Schaub. But being his first game back, I would think even his gameplan would be to NOT turn the ball over. Either way I think Schaub and Daniels are decent starts this week.

 

[IndyHavoc]

Any expected impact to Walter based solely on Schaub under center? This is his scheduled every other up week.

same situation here (as QB2 at least) in picking between them. I just don't think Steelers will be able to run effectively - red zone or otherwise - and their D should get them at least 1 short field. I like Roeth to throw 2 or more TDs. Shaub will have more yardage in a shootout, but very easily could see Texans with 2+ rushing TD's. Advantage: Roethlisberger.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

I am definitely concerned about Daniels. If Chillar is covering him, it's not a great matchup. GB isn't getting burned by TEs the way they were last season. I think Daniels is downgraded to an average option for this game -- meaning that in non-PPR, you are left crossing your fingers for a TD, same as many other lesser week-to-week options. He won't have oodles of yards in this game.

(Heath Miller and his 4 catches each of the last 2 weeks is chilling on waivers right now and looking tempting. Argh.)

 

[the spanker]

I am definitely concerned about Daniels. If Chillar is covering him, it's not a great matchup. GB isn't getting burned by TEs the way they were last season. I think Daniels is downgraded to an average option for this game -- meaning that in non-PPR, you are left crossing your fingers for a TD, same as many other lesser week-to-week options. He won't have oodles of yards in this game.(Heath Miller and his 4 catches each of the last 2 weeks is chilling on waivers right now and looking tempting. Argh.)

How do you think he looks in PPR? Have to decide between him and Shockey this week.

 

[Lobary]

I am definitely concerned about Daniels. If Chillar is covering him, it's not a great matchup. GB isn't getting burned by TEs the way they were last season. I think Daniels is downgraded to an average option for this game -- meaning that in non-PPR, you are left crossing your fingers for a TD, same as many other lesser week-to-week options. He won't have oodles of yards in this game.(Heath Miller and his 4 catches each of the last 2 weeks is chilling on waivers right now and looking tempting. Argh.)

Daniels gets a definite upgrade with Schaub back. The Packers are less than average against the position, having allowed players like Jeremy Shockey, Billy Miller, Jason Witten, Greg Olsen, Dallas Clark, John Carlson, and Alex Smith productive days against their linebackers. Daniels is an above-average TE and a difficult matchup for most NFL LBs, so I think he's a decent start this week. I toyed with the idea of picking up Zach Miller and starting him against the Chargers this week but decided to eschew the matchup advantage and stick with the player with the better QB.

 

[PosterNutBag]

I am definitely concerned about Daniels. If Chillar is covering him, it's not a great matchup. GB isn't getting burned by TEs the way they were last season. I think Daniels is downgraded to an average option for this game -- meaning that in non-PPR, you are left crossing your fingers for a TD, same as many other lesser week-to-week options. He won't have oodles of yards in this game.(Heath Miller and his 4 catches each of the last 2 weeks is chilling on waivers right now and looking tempting. Argh.)

While Green Bay generally does well against TEs, the really haven't faced too many good ones this season. 2 weeks ago in New Orleans, Miller had 4/36/1 while Shockey was 5/57/0 ... which is pretty good. Witten and Clark each had good games against them. Probably the only TE who some people count on to produce as a fantasy starter who didn't produce against GB has to be Scaife in week 9 at 4/26/0.Everyone know the Schaub favors Daniels much more than Rosenfels. I would normally expect a QB just getting back into the swing of things to rely more on his TE than normal too. The Green Bay rush defense, though, has been not so good this season at times while the pass defense has been their strength (but mostly b/c they have some good players in their secondary blanketing opposing WRs). I think Daniels is as good a play this week as any other TE that has not been consistent in recent weeks. It is certainly a roll of the dice, but the game data out there for decent TEs against GB doesn't make me think they'll be shutting down Daniels. They will likely be more concerning with AJ and Slaton, especially since Daniels is off the radar.We shall see what happens, but if you other option is Miller then I would be tempted to take one more chance on Daniels this week.

 

[Trap Play]

(Heath Miller and his 4 catches each of the last 2 weeks is chilling on waivers right now and looking tempting. Argh.)

Granted both my Week 14 games are effectively bye weeks this week so I can afford to try 'shaking things up' before the playoffs begin, but I am leaning toward Miller and Kevin Boss over Daniels in two leagues.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

I agree with you guys that Daniels gets an upgrade, just that I only upgrade him from "garbage" to "average." He could have a good game, but I need to think more about this before I decide whether to start him.

 

[PatrickT]

Any expected impact to Walter based solely on Schaub under center? This is his scheduled every other up week.

same situation here (as QB2 at least) in picking between them. I just don't think Steelers will be able to run effectively - red zone or otherwise - and their D should get them at least 1 short field. I like Roeth to throw 2 or more TDs. Shaub will have more yardage in a shootout, but very easily could see Texans with 2+ rushing TD's. Advantage: Roethlisberger.

We are either in parallel universes, or you replied to the wrong post. I want to know about Schaubs impact on Kevin Walter, I don't think Big Ben really enters the picture.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

its hard to say that AJ will be upgraded as he's been great, but i think getting schaub back in there is a big upgrade for AJ. Schaub has been practicing since last week so i don't see him having that much rust. before schaub got hurt he seemed to have AJ on radar lock. he throws it to AJ more and is more accurate on those throws. i worry more about a dome(well not really this year, but fair weather climate anyways) coming up to frozen tundra. if the weather stays modest and woodson plays more safety i see big things for AJ. for all those reason(especially if woodson plays SS) i don't like Daniels as much

 

[dedge2]

I could see Houston going to him as soon as they get inside the 10 as sort of a "Homecoming" - he played at UW. On the other hand, Chilar is a pretty good coverage LB and I wouldn't be surprised if he shuts Daniels down the majority of the day.

 

[Big Blue Wrecking Crew]

Struggling with the pros and cons for Daniels. As much as the "rusty QB relies on his reliable TE" argument makes sense to me, it still strikes me as a dice roll. Don't get me wrong, Schaub vs. Rosenfarts is a no brainer. Just wish he came back this past week. Daniels over Scheffler was one of many decisions that cost me a bye for this week. Don't want to get bounced making the same decision. Plus, with GB being weaker vs. run than the pass, do they try to ride Slaton to ease Schaub back in? Decisions, decisons...

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Chillar is a good cover LB, not great. He's done well at times, but got schooled by Shockey. Additionally, FS Nick Collins has been dinged up the last couple of weeks, and isn't playing nearly as well as he had been.

 

[the spanker]

its hard to say that AJ will be upgraded as he's been great, but i think getting schaub back in there is a big upgrade for AJ. Schaub has been practicing since last week so i don't see him having that much rust. before schaub got hurt he seemed to have AJ on radar lock. he throws it to AJ more and is more accurate on those throws. i worry more about a dome(well not really this year, but fair weather climate anyways) coming up to frozen tundra. if the weather stays modest and woodson plays more safety i see big things for AJ. for all those reason(especially if woodson plays SS) i don't like Daniels as much

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Anyone starting Schaub going forward at any point? Who are you starting him over?

 

[Ridgelake]

How good a start is he ? He has GB secondary this week and a pretty tough Oakland secondary next week.

Green Bay hasn't stopped any elite offensive WR's this year, apart from the Berrian/Frerotte deal but most don't consider Berrian to be even a WR2 for most teams.Edit: O.k. they shut down Wayne and T.O. I lend that more to Peyton's early injury recovery and T.O.'s unreliability this year, though.

C. Johnson  6 129 2 47 M. Austin  2 115 1 63  (Terrell Owens held to two catches in the win)R. White  8 132 1 37 L. Moore  5 115 2 70 M. Colston  1 70 1 70 S. Smith  4 105 0 54

Quite a few more stud WR's with a gunslinging QB have broken loose against this D than have been shut down.

I can comment on GB shutting down TO. It was GB's definite game plan to take TO out of the game. They put a CB to press him every play AND they put a safety over the top every play. If I recall, Witten and Barber went ballistic that game. The bottom line is that GB can and will take out a WR. The question becomes whether they choose to do that given the cost. Against Houston, they may deem AJ the biggest threat and take him out. But thats the risk of FF. Trying to guess what teams will do.

 

[bonesman]

As a Daniels owner...

Even with Schaub due back this week, is Daniels startable? Dude has 7 catches the past 4 weeks. I know Sage hates his guts, but Daniels doesn't even seem to be in the Texans game plan anymore. With week 14 being the playoffs for most, how can you drink to a good times Schaub-Daniels reunion with confidence? Is this assuming no better options, or is Daniels a must start regardless?

Daniels was a stud with Shaub..Was nothing with Rosy...

What is so hard to understand here.

What I'm saying is I don't think it's so cut and dry. Like the other poster, I have Shockey as well and need to think long and hard about whether to roll with Shockey or Daniels. Sure Daniels can't get any worse but can he turn it back on that quickly again? Playoffs are do or die.

I haven't seen any of the Rosenfels Texans games. Has Daniels not been open? Has he been dropping passes? Has he been kept in to block more? Or does Rosenfels focus on the wideouts and not up the seam?From the stat lines, it looks more like Rosenfels doesn't/didn't look to Daniels in his progressions, but that's just basing it on Daniels production and targets. Schaub definitely looks Daniels way, and had a nice repore with him earlier in the year. I will roll with Daniels this week, and hope Schaub remembers who he is.

Sorry to be a spelling twot.... but it's actually rapport.More on the subject... Schaub looks anxious to get in there an play. Every time I saw him on the sidelines last week he had his helmet on and was licking his hands and getting in an athletic/linebacker-like stance! I hope he's not too wound up when he finally gets back in there.

 

[blackjack23]

Anyone starting Schaub going forward at any point? Who are you starting him over?

Its between him and Big Ben and Shaun Hill for me. Have no clue who to go with.

 

[GoNads]

I have Zach Miller in there right now, and I am thinking I will keep him in there over Daniels.

I am weighing the pros and cons, and pretty much agree with all of the ones mentioned here so far.

The one that's tipping tip the scale for me right now is that Miller is the #1 target of his QB while Owens' biggest problem in my estimation has been the lack of targets. I don't think he's staying to block too much nor is he dropping balls; he's just not getting the love from Rosenvelvet. He probably will from Schaub, but I need to see that happen (and Schaub get one game under his belt) before I take this chance on my first round playoff game.

If Miller can snag a TD to go with his recent yards (he's got to be due), he will be money.

 

[The_Fonz]

THe one thing I think about with Schaub is how many times he came in off the bench in Atlanta and lit it up. The guy is a gamer. If he is able to play I think he should have a decent game. They will have to throw alot, I think it will be a shootout.

 

[dmac37]

Anyone starting Schaub going forward at any point? Who are you starting him over?

This week still trying to decide between Schaub and McNabb. Planned on going with McNabb but may start Schaub if he looks to be near 100%.

 

[the spanker]

Can anyone enlighten the rest of us as to where Dobbs ranks Shaub, AJ and Daniels this week?

 

[red]

I have to choose between Edwards and shaub. Any updates on shaub's health, ability and practice this week.

 

[sdsjr3]

Can anyone enlighten the rest of us as to where Dobbs ranks Shaub, AJ and Daniels this week?

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